Framboise De Amorosa - The Lost Abbey

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Ratings: 923
Reviews: 227
rAvg: 4.34
pDev: 8.76%
Wants: 477
Gots: 229 | FT: 13
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California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  7.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: largadeer on 02-09-2010

Framboise de Amorosa is our first foray into the world of raspberry beers. It begins as Lost and Found ale and is sent into freshly emptied red wine barrels. The beer spends over a year in the wood during which time it is spiked with three additions of raspberries.

The first sip produces a sweet start with a long drawn out sour finish. Some of the sweetness from the raspberries comes out before acidic notes join the mix. On the back end of the beer is a smoothing oak character which keeps the beer from becoming dull.
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Photo of facundoCNB
4.33/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

a deep burgundy pour almost reminiscent of a port wine, with a thick finger of frothy creme/pink colored head leaving behind thick lacing.. great head retention. the smell is almost vinegar-ish, but i definitely get some dark fruits and berries, some banana as well, and some cedar-like scent. woah what a tart/sour one this is!!! lots of acidic berry-ish flavors mixing in with a ton of wood/barrel taste.. an almost bitter sour hits you immediately after the acidic initial flavor.. this is an incredible sour beer.

medium body with a nice rich creamy feel, high carbonation, and lots of cheek puckering tartness.

i recommend picking this one up. i feel like if i tried this last year i would have hated it, but the more i drink sours/wild ales, the more i can appreciate a beer like this. almost wine-like at times, with a raspberry overall tone, lots of wooden barrel.. lots to enjoy, but again - this is on the vinegary flanders red type style, BUT does have that huge lemony-acidic flavor that overpowers most of everything else!

Photo of MNishCT77
4.29/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Both 12.7 oz. bottle purchased at Bine & Vine in San Diego, CA last week (thanks, John Serra, for directing me here), unknown dating vintage, poured into my FFF Teku tasting g;ass, drank 6/23/13 over one hour.

A: 4.25 - dark ruby red, minimal clarity (can't see or read through), frothy yellow-white two finger dissipates but persists throughout consumption, moderate alcohol legs

S: 4.50 - lots of vinous (especially tannins and aged red grape rind) and fruit (especially raspberry characters)

T: 4.25 - big blast of puckering sour/tart flavors explode into the front of the mouth; as the taste continues, the vinous qualities really kick up with husk, grape and rind flavors; really nice but maybe a little bit overpowering and intense

M: 4.00 - medium bodied, moderate-to-high carbonation, slight alcohol burn, lingering flavors/aromas

O: 4.25 - I'm very glad that I tried this beer picked up on our recent trip to the West Coast; it's a suped-up framboise that I certainly enjoyed; however, I prefer more muted and refreshing flavors from the style (thinking of Lindemann's), and this one was too intense for the style for me

Photo of magictacosinus
3.22/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 3

Can't believe I found one of these recently. Consumed during the second monthly "Beermageddon" with many others recently. Poured into a tulip glass from a 375ml bottle.

Pours a beautiful, full reddish-ruby color complete with a decent amount of carbonation and a 1 finger worth of pinkish colored head. Lacing sticks everywhere on this thing, and it glows like any fantastic, world class Lambic against the light. There are floaties lingering within the liquid itself, no doubt aided by the wood, and definitely a cloudy, yeasty color that filters through the liquid at hand. Incredibly rustic, and very well put together, if only a bit sludgy overall. However, the color at hand is winning me over, and I'm giving it a high score in this realm.

The aroma is also quite fabulous, consisting of a blend of bright berry flavors, ranging from raspberries, strawberries, and boysenberries, with maybe a bit of blueberries at the finish. As a fan of all wines containing a grape musty, berry forward flavor, this definitely could pass blindly as a good Zinfandel or Tempranillo blend if it weren't for the undeniable woody tannic, brown malty, and slightly soured flavors underneath. Indeed, the other ingredients impart a bit of a nutty, milk chocolate flavor that makes this smell like a chocolate berry liqueur, only to be phased out by the soured, jammy wild aromas caused by the yeast. A hint of acetone and lactic acid lingers about, but luckily the bright berry and marmalade flavors are victorious. Truly an excellent effort by the Lost Abbey here.

The flavor completely throws back the inner bliss experienced by the aroma, delivering a highly acidic, soured, and strangely unpleasant drinking experience. While it wasn't noticeable in the aroma, what appears to be lacking here is a strong malty backbone that makes beers like, say, Supplication such a success. Strange, because I know I detected brown malts in the aroma. In the flavor, you first get bright slightly musty raspberries and strawberries, only to immediately be pelted with an acidic harshness and dryness that numbs the cheeks and burns the back of the throat. This is the equivalent of drinking a soured berry extract without ANY of the residual sugars to fall back upon. There's no creaminess, no breadiness, and especially no finishing character other than sour woody tannins, fruit tartness, and intense acid from what I'm assuming to be Pediococcus. The mouthfeel is super astringent and harsh, and not pleasing at all to the senses. What happened here? The aroma was amazing - where did this go wrong?

I actually felt embarrassed bringing this to the tasting. We did enjoy it for the fruity, tarty flavors, but the acid and extreme sourness provides intensity with no degree of satisfaction in return. I know this wasn't infected or anything, but I simply feel it was horribly unbalanced. If you want to try this, go ahead, but the Lost Abbey definitely has better sours for the same price and availability in their catalogue.

Photo of mltobin
4.1/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Split a bottle with a couple friends. Poured into a wine glass, the appearance is dark red, a little brownish with a small head. The nose has raspberries, vinegar, oak and funk. It really comes with sourness before even drinking it. Upon tipping some back, I taste raspberries, cherries, caramel and some red wine. Mouthfeel has a lot of carbonation, that sourness lingers with you. A great wild/sour beer from a U.S. brewer. I would love if we could get this in Connecticut or even New York.

Photo of cvm4
4.46/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A - Raspberry colored bodied with a two finger head that has a pinkish hue to it.

S - Raspberry (could interchange cherries here), oak, funkiness and some sugary sweetness on the backend.

T - Whew! Sour/tart raspberries hit you right away. Some sugar fruity notes and oak hold it all together.

M - Lighter bodied and somewhat high carbonation. It has a dry, mouth puckering finish.

O - Excellent sour here! About the only one that can hold a flame to Supplication.

Photo of lsummers
4.34/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours bright copper rusty red. Cloudy as can be. Looks great.

Smells of woody raspberries and tartness with some nice sweetness.

Taste is straight away tart sour dark fruity cherries and raspberries. There's a bitterness I. There that lends well with the sour qualities. Slight maltyness on the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is very sharp. Highly carbonated yet fells very nice and refreshing. Still quite bitey.

Overall this is an excellent sour. If your into the style I'd say you have to try this one.

Photo of Falcon91Wolvrn03
3.59/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance – The cork really popped on this one. Pours a dirty raspberry color with a thick frothy dirty white head and huge lacing. Lots of sediment.

Smell – Sour raspberries, red wine, oak, and a hint of raspberry sweetness.

Taste – Sour raspberries dominate the taste. I didn’t notice the sweetness that I detected from the nose. Very dry.

Mouthfeel – Tart, nicely carbonated, with a lingering sour aftertaste.

Drinkability – I think it is a bit too tart to be super drinkable.

Photo of mactrail
3.52/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Local Habit in San Diego. The color is dark brownish and murky in the glass-- "swamp water," as DefenCorps calls it, which is right on. A splash of a head and quite a tingly mouthfeel, both from the carbonation and what I suspect is taste buds dying. More of a vinegar smell with a touch of fruitiness.

Tart rather than sweet to start, but hugely berry flavored. Some bitterness for the finish. A slight sweetness creeps in along with the vinegar edge. It does taste just like raspberries, which the brewer says were added again during the year-long wine barrel aging. This is actually quite sippable, though unmistakably a serious sour.

Photo of wordemupg
4.31/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

375ml corked and caged bottle poured into wine glass 27/4/13, 2012 vintage, cheers Rutager for sending the bottle

A murky brownish amber with enough clarity to see a few streams of bubbles but I know there's plenty as its hard not to get half a glass of foam even on a gentle pour. massive light brown head with a hint of pink has great retention and completely cakes my glass in lace, still a think film at the bottom of the glass and lace right to the bottom, looks perfect

S I get more cherry then the raspberry the used making it, perhaps a little strawberry in there too, quite funky with lots of oak and cheese and vinous notes, pretty sexy nose

T tart, sweet and sour at the same time but less of the funky notes and the fruits mellowed, still great but missing just a little something the nose had going for it

M a little pucker and a little grit left behind, almost foamy from the bubbles but creamy after a second in your mouth with a sour oak finish

O pretty solid sour that looks perfect, smells great and solid everywhere else. My only complaint is that my glass was empty before I really figured it out

I can see why Lost Abbey has the reputation for brewing great sours and I can't wait to try some more

Photo of ThePorterSorter
4.28/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Thanks merc for sharing, 2012 bottle.
The beer pours a dull, yeast speckled, hazy light brown with a thin tan head. The nose is sweet with potent oak and raspberries. The taste is slightly funky, followed by tart raspberries, a caramelized sugar sweetness, and a semi-dry, lingering raspberry cake finish. Great malt presence that serves to accentuate the dark fruitiness of the raspberries. The mouthfeel is solidly medium bodied, slightly bready, with great oaked fruit character, and a slightly salty, dry finish. Very enjoyable beer that's completely worth the effort to obtain.

Photo of DefenCorps
3.95/5  rDev -9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle, batch 1, that I received from Carlos. Thanks, man!

I expected the beer to gush like mad, but strangely, I needed a corkscrew to pop this bad boy. The beer itself is a hilariously ugly murky swamp water brown,capped with a short-lived beige head. The nose is bright, frothy, jammy, fruity raspberries, very bright and stunningly expressed. Not particularly seedy/tannic, the fruit character is excellent here. The sour base beer is actually tempered by the fruit. It does, however, have a mild acetone character, along with some lemon and key lime. Mildly yeasty as well.

The palate opens bright, fruity and sharp. Jammy raspberries, minimally seedy, with a little bit of strawberry character as well, the fruity expression is excellent. This is followed by the sour base, where the lactic acidity pairs quite well with the fruit. There's also a hint of lemon as well as some acetic character. A little frothy/yogurty as well, the mid-palate is a little chunky/yeasty. Some oak tannins are present, rather well-integrated with the profile. The finish is strongly lactic, scrubbing the palate, almost a little too much, leaving a clean, yogurt sourness and flavor along a clean raspberry sourness. It does, however, feel a little watery. Medium-medium light in body with moderate carbonation, the softness/fullness that the yeast/proteins lend does clash with the brightness of the fruit, but ultimately, I'd say this is one of the better American brewed raspberry sours I've had. Well done, Tomme!

Photo of dogfishandi
4.33/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

12.7 oz. corked bottle at about fridge temp poured into a snifter.

Pours a muddy, cloudy dark red almost brown, off white head,, about a 1/4 inch or so. Decent spotty lace. Good head retention.

Sugary, funky fruit, raspberry a bit in the background, sweet tart, a bit of barnyard funk.

Very nice, sweet sugary raspberry, sweet almost caramel oaky like malt in there, just enough funk, more barnyard, finishes sour.

Medium to light in body. A touch of sweetness that's cut by a fair amount of sourness. Not intensely sour like some can be.

Very nice, raspberry a bit hidden, more of a Flanders style beer with abit of sweet malt in there.

Photo of dgilks
4.28/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Cloudy red-brown colour with a long lasting creamy tan head. Great lacing.

Lots of fruit with the raspberry being noticeable. Tart and funky and just a little sweet.

Tart. Fruity as well with some lactic notes. Nice raspberry character. Touches of mint. Great.

Medium light body with high carbonation. Appropriate.

A solid sour. Good funk and nice fruit. Works really well.

Photo of PeterIngemi
4.47/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 375ml bottle of the 2012 vintage, into a duvel glass

A: pours brown with some deep redish tits and a slightly redish, tanned head. Two fingers worth of frothy head dissapate nicley to a film leaving some nice spots of lacing.

S: loads and loads of raspberry tartness, tartness has an acidic quality to it... Also a little bit of funk in there with some nice earthy wooden oak notes, this smells phenomenally delicious. Like a sour raspberry slush puppy.

T: equally impressive, wonderful notes of raspberry and acidic citrus tartness, hint of lemon, and tart dark cherry and green apple skins... A touch of funk mixed in with some earthy oak bringing a nice kiss of bitterness, this is wonderfully balanced.

M: medium bodied with very active creamy and aggressive carbonation to give this a lush and slightly spritzy mouthfeel, dry and a touch puckering in this finish, leaves an aftertaste that reminds me of sweet trarts.

O: this is a phenomenal sour... I'm not even usually a fan of framboise, bit the tartness and balance on this one are superb, one of my favorite sours hands down.

Photo of haazer
4.08/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Last beer I had at Capones black friday event.

A- A very pretty looking brew. Poured a deep purple color, with mohagony and red highlights. There was decent lacing left down the sides of the glass.

S- Tart and acetic aroma. Somewhat funky but not a lot. Sour raspberries of course, and even a bit of vinegar.

T- Fairly tart brew here. Slightly sour but not so much as the nose would lead you to believe. The raspberries give a nice flavor throughout and linger somewhat. The acidity of this beer is digesting my enormous Thanksgiving meal from the day before quite nicely.

M- Light to medium bodied brew, and highly carbonated. Way to go Tomme.

O- Overall this makes a great sour. The sourness and raspberry flavors are balanced very well. It's not overly sour or funky. Highly drinkable.

Photo of Knapp85
4.6/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer poured out as a murky looking red color with an off white pinkish foamy head on top. The retention here is a good and so is the lacing on the glass. Very pretty looking beer all around. The smell of the beer gives off plenty of raspberry aromas some nice fresh oak and some subtle funk in there too. The taste is excellent in my opinion. There is an explosion of raspberry with the tartness of the fruit itself mixing with the oak from the barrels and the wild yeast. The sourness of the beer is very tolerable in my opinion and still remains very easy to drink. The after taste brings out some of the malt in the base of the beer as the fruit subsides, there is also some hints of cocoa in there as well in the late finish. The mouthfeel of the beer is good, it's a little thin but had a moderate carbonation to it. Overall it was highly enjoyable, I would order this beer again in a heartbeat. Very glad i got to try this, If I ever have it again I want to have it with a rich chocolate dessert of some kind.

Photo of harrymel
4.03/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage 2012. Picked it up at the brewery. Signed by Dominguez!

Pours a rather murky chocolate cherry with a brown pink fuzz on top. Lots of tart raspberries, some must, barn, lemon and oak. Nice hint of vanilla as well. Flavor is oaky with plenty of fruit flavor and slight bitterness. Also has the aftertaste of a really rich raspberry truffle. Some bits of wood and vine. I like the flavor on this one quite a bit. Medium bodied with sharp, tight fleeting carb and a wet finish. Nice beer, probably one of the better I've had from the Abbey.

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.14/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle opened on 9.11.12.
Thanks Kelton.

A - Pours a very murky and dirty dark brown with a thin light tan head with good retention.

S - Tart and sweet raspberries and some wood.

T - Tart cherry, sweet raspberry and an oaky finish.

D - Good carbonation with a medium body. A nice lingering tart finish.

O - Tart and sweet, nice balance, oaky tart lasts a long time.

Photo of jaasen64
4.2/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz serving in a tulip glass during Tomme Arthur night at Lord Hobo last night. Reviewed from the notes that I wrote down.

A- Hazy mostly opaque dark brownish red with a very thin layer of reddish off-white head that leaves some spotty lacing. About average carbonation.

S- Mainly raspberries with maybe a tiny bit of cherries in there too. Lightly sweet smelling with some light tartness. Slightly above average aroma strength.

T- Lots of raspberries, fairly sweet with some light tartness on the finish. Not too sour, slightly more sour then Cuvee de Tomme and Red Poppy.

M- Medium bodied, nice carbonation, tingles the tongue a little bit with larger mouthfulls, very easy to drink.

O- I haven't had too many framboises, but I definitely enjoyed drinking this one. Not my favorite sour I've had and definitely not the sourest, but definitely a nice enjoyable beer that I'm glad I had the opportunity to try. I wouldn't go out of my way to try it again, but I would certainly drink it again. It was one of my favorites of the night. It had a nice raspberry flavor with a decent tartness that could have maybe been toned up a little bit. I would definitely recommend this beer if you like raspberries.

Photo of jmarsh123
3.73/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours cloudy dark red with a pink 2 finger head. Decent retention and lacing.

Aroma is heavily laden with funky raspberry. A little bit of sourness with some oak.

A little acidic up front in the taste. Tons of raspberry similar to the aroma. A little bit of the musty funk as well, but raspberry dominates the other flavors. Nice although I'd prefer a bit more complexity.

Soft carbonation and a creamy mouthfeel. Probably the best aspect of the beer. Brings everything together well.

Solid beer although falls a bit shy of hype for me. Still worth a shot if you can get it, but not worth trading any rarities for.

Photo of Sean9689
4.12/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a muddled reddish/brown color, off-white head, spotty lace. Tons of funk, berries, and acidic noes mixed with vinegar and vinous notes. Flavor is tart berries, oak, nice acidic sour bite. Body is light, good carbonation, dry tart finish.

A really nice wild that has a lot of sour & fruit going on, which is exactly what I was looking for. A good one from Tomme and company at Lost Abbey. Recommend.

Photo of birchstick
4.17/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A - pours a dark, ruby red with a soft white head with reddish hues in it

S - nose is an eruption of raspberries with nice sour notes and funk

T - starts off with some citric flavors that move to a lot of raspberry, emphasis on a lot. A little bit of musty dirt is present on the back of the palate, but raspberry takes center stage and doesn't get off. Really nice framboise here.

M - soft mouthfeel with a little bit of wateriness

D - overall, very solid framboise. Ties in some nice citric tones and the mustiness adds a layer of complexity. Damn good framboise...wish I could try this next to FfaC.

Photo of mdaschaf
4.15/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to WesM63 for this one!

A: Pours a deep mahogany color, almost purple/brown with a massive tan head on top, about 2.5 fingers in height that had very slow dissipation leaving some thick lacing on the glass.

S: Tons of raspberry right away, very sweet, fresh and juicy. Slightly tart, sort of reminds me of a fruity/acidic flanders.

T: Fantastic, very fruity with some ripe raspberries. There is a bit of oak and a touch of vanilla at the end.

M: Medium bodied with nice carbonation. No flatness issues with this one at all.

O: A very nice wild ale, very balanced in terms of flavor and sour/tartness.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.39/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap for Woodshop 7 held at Beachwood BBQ & Brewing in Long Beach, CA.

Pours a clear dark red with a foamy reddish-white head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is pretty sour and tart with lots of fresh raspberry and raspberry juice aromas. Taste is much the same with an acidic quality with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good beer that is pretty refreshing and very easy to drink.

Photo of pmarlowe
4.1/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2012 vintage. Tulip.

A: Pours an impenetrable strawberry brown with two fingers of fluffy head that deflates within a few minutes, leaving some nice walls of lacing. Very good retention.

S: Raspberry on spicy oak, red fruit, a little funk. Nicely balanced.

T: Pleasing raspberry with moderate-high, mouth-puckering sourness which hits you pretty quickly and has good persistence on the finish. Some oak.

M: Medium-high carbonation on a medium body. A bit more carbonated than ideal, like a soda.

O: Tasty and well constructed.

Framboise De Amorosa from The Lost Abbey
96 out of 100 based on 923 ratings.