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Veritas 009 - The Lost Abbey

Not Rated.
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BA SCORE
85
very good

230 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 230
Reviews: 90
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 25.2%
Wants: 163
Gots: 82 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: HopHead84 on 05-28-2011)
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4/5  rDev +6.1%

t0rin0, Dec 12, 2012
Photo of spycow
4/5  rDev +6.1%

spycow, Nov 27, 2011
Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Tieman for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours an opaque dark brown with no head and no lacing on the drink down. Smell is sour and tart with some dark malt, dark fruit, and alcohol aromas. Taste is much the same with a really tart and acidic finish. This beer has a low level of carbonation with an almost flat mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer but it definitely smells better than it tastes.

UCLABrewN84, Nov 11, 2012
Photo of djrn2
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

djrn2, Mar 24, 2013
Photo of zestar
4/5  rDev +6.1%

zestar, Nov 02, 2013
Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

acurtis, Jan 08, 2012
Photo of Thorpe429
4.6/5  rDev +22%
look: 2.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bottle consumed as a precursor to the barrel-aged barleywine tasting at a preview of Terry's beers at the Farmers Cabinet facility in Alexandria.

Disclaimer: this beer was initially flat, and I subsequently force-carbed it to a low level. Given the interaction of things in the mouthfeel, I don't think the carbonation was really necessary or added much.

Pours a murky dark brown color with a garnet hue. No real head other than a few tan bubbles that popped up and fell almost instantaneously.

The nose starts things off right with notes of chocolate and a bit of dark malt. Atop that were strong notes of cherry, red wine, and oak. Pretty good acidity with a very mild acetic character. The flavor was intense, to say the least. Really delicious with the dark malt and fruits combining with bright cherries and brisk acidity. Red wine and oak really round things out. Some acetic character as it warms up.

Mouthfeel is really fantastic. Not something I would have imagined myself for a sour, but it worked quite well. Strong acidity with a thick, chewy base that neared stout levels. Dry and tannic. Long finish. Very low carbonation.

Incredibly complex and well made. Not sure if the low carbonation was intentional, but I think it worked quite well.

Thorpe429, Aug 21, 2011
Photo of nmann08
4/5  rDev +6.1%

nmann08, Jan 08, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

GRG1313, Jun 11, 2012
Photo of Phyl21ca
2.86/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Bottle: Poured a deep black color ale with a small almost non-existent head with zero retention. The beer is indeed flat which I find hard to know if it is by design or just another bottling issue with the brewery. Aroma of bourbon with some vanilla notes is offset by tart and kriek notes which make for a weird mix at the end of the day. Taste is a very weird mix between bourbon/vanilla notes with light roasted malt offset by tart, oak and sour cherries notes. Body is about average with zero carbonation and no apparent alcohol. I can’t say I really enjoyed this one.

Phyl21ca, Feb 25, 2013
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2.5/5  rDev -33.7%

ygtbsm94, Jan 12, 2012
Photo of mikesgroove
4.97/5  rDev +31.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

its my bday so i bring out the big guns opened this one on friday night to obliterate myself. this was quite simply one of the best beers i have ever drank. a sublime mix of everything i love about beer all rolled into one.

pours a lovely dark brown, nearly black with a fluffy tan head that caps the top of the glass nicely coating the sides and really making it look the part.

aroma is nuts, hard to even explain as you have to simply be there. dark chocolate and oak, mingled with deep grape, raspberry and dark fruit notes, sour with changing flavors twirling around. its hard to get a grip on this beer!

the combination of a dark roasted chocolate/malt driven base with sour fruit is one that really needs to be expierenced to completely get it. i simply cannot make the words do this justice. finishes off with the subtlest of dryness and lovely sour flavors and all is well in the world.

stunning, now by far my favorite beer from lost abbey, no question.

mikesgroove, Jun 12, 2011
Photo of womencantsail
3.93/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to Bobby for helping me out since I couldn't go to the release. Shared at the BA BA tasting.

A: Not a sound as the cork comes out. Pours pitch black and completely flat. This gets a 2.0 because it's a pretty big fuck you to not carbonate a $35 bottle.

S: Smells pretty decent, though. Rich bourbon and vanilla aromas with plenty of oak. Lots of cherries to and a bit of red wine. There is a slight metallic note on the back end.

T: Really an intense cherry and bourbon flavor to this. Nice vanilla and chocolate notes along with the oak and barrel. A surprising amount of red wine and fruits, just a little bit of roast.

M: Medium in body, but completely flat. Bah.

O: This was pretty solid, but very unfortunate that it was totally flat.

womencantsail, Jun 21, 2011
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4.25/5  rDev +12.7%

westcoastbeerlvr, Nov 14, 2011
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3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

SocalKicks, Mar 08, 2014
Photo of largadeer
4.22/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Andrew for opening one and AP for sending one my way.

Appearance: Still dark brown. No carbonation whatsoever. Fairly viscous, leggy body.

Aroma: Cocoa and cherries. Subdued sourness, bourbon and red wine, balsamic vinegar, molasses. A nice mix of sweet and sour.

Palate: More tartness than I was expecting, it opens with a nice lactic twang, with tart sour cherries not far behind. Medium-full body, flavors of chocolate, molasses and bourbon work surprisingly well with the sourness. Alcohol is well hidden. The mix of cherries, lactic sourness and dark malt is pretty enjoyable. This bottle had no carbonation to speak of, but I didn't feel it was to the beer's detriment.

largadeer, Oct 20, 2011
Photo of MasterSki
4.45/5  rDev +18%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Sean for sharing this on a random Sunday night. Served in a Jester King snifter.

A - Pours still. Dark brown-red body that is a little lighter and slightly translucent at the fringes. Not much to look at, as even the color isn't too attractive.

S - Charred oak, cherries, smoke, light toasted coconut, and faint bourbon. As it warms up there is more dark chocolate and increasingly vinous oak , as well as some light alcohol.

T - Taste is far more on the cherry and red wine side of things, with significant cherry tartness and acidity, as well as red wine elements - dark fruits, tart appleskins, and berries. Far less bourbon character than the nose.

M - Tannic, full-bodied, with some definite alcohol warmth, although nowhere near the rumored 12%. Obviously there is no appreciable carbonation. In any case, it's largely appropriate for the flavor profile.

D - Like a fine red wine. Seriously this is the most Cabernet-like beer I've ever encountered. A far more successful experiment than Veritas 008, and that's the point of this series right? In any case, looking forward to having this one again down the road.

I opened a bottle of this a few weeks later and it was actually carbonated - thin white foam that left spotty lace and settled to a thin ring of bubbles. Still not a good-looking beer, but worthy of a small score bump.

MasterSki, Jun 20, 2011
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4/5  rDev +6.1%

XmnwildX12, Dec 11, 2013
Photo of oline73
3.7/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

I brought my bottle along to Imminent Liquidation. I made sure to save a generous pour so I could take notes.

Appearance: Pours an opaque dark brown with no head showing up at all. This looks like it will be an interesting one.

Smell: Sweet and syrupy with a very slight fruit tartness that it took me a while to find. Started out smelling like a stout/strong ale blend.

Taste: There is a sour component to this beer that I wasn't sure of until now. I'm picking up some cherry and chocolate notes. This beer is extremely sweet, but it seems to work.

Mouthfeel: Thick body with hardly any carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I really enjoyed this even with the faults. I could have used a little carbonation. The flavors all worked for me so I would call it a success.

oline73, Mar 09, 2012
Photo of drabmuh
3.88/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

At the time of this review, this is the #9 top American Wild Ale on the beeradvocate best of lists. Bottle shared by Thorpe429 generously the other night, he had tried to force carb it.

Beer is dark black, really no head, low carbonation, no lacing, meh.

The aroma is an interesting mixture of an almost molasses, acetic, lactic, citric, oakiness with hints of tannic. In reality, the aroma was way sweeter than I was expecting.

Beer is interesting and I enjoyed it ultimately but it is not like the other Vertias in the series. This beer was bigger in body, sweeter on the palate and finished much much sweeter than the other sours in the "series." I should look up the blend to figure out where this toffee like sweetness is coming from. It is a good beer but overall it should be carbonated and it should be sweeter. I would hope that time would improve this beer but since it is uncarbonated right now who knows if there are any living organisms in the bottles to finish off the fermentation and provide a finished product.

drabmuh, Aug 22, 2011
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3.83/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

From 11/05/11 notes. Big thanks to craytonic for sharing this one; thanks Matt! Poured into my Cigar City snifter.

a - Pours a deep dark reddish-brown color with a dark purple tint, about two bubbles of head and almost no carbonation evident. Looks flat, as expected.

s - Smells of bourbon, oak, chocolate malts, vanilla, dark fruity malts, alcohol, red wine, light cherries. Bourbon and oak are very strong, as are dark fruits. Nice and I enjoy the nose, but not really sour at all.

t - Tastes of bourbon, oak, sweet dark fruity malts, red wine, and sour cherries. Light chocolate and roasted malts, but not as much as the nose. Some sourness and tart cherries here in the taste, but not what I traditionally think of in a sour as it is both sweet and sour at the same time, and still hevay on the bourbon. A little odd, but nice.

m - Medium body and no carbonation whatsoever. Docking it a little bit as I think it would have been better with some low carbonation. Still a smooth mouthfeel and it isn't bad, but I think some would have helped.

o - Overall a very interesting beer. The taste is both sweet and sour which is cool/interesting, thoough I'm not sure how much of this I would want to drink. I've now had five of the nine Veritas series beers and this one ranks 4/5; not saying this is bad, but shows the quality of the others. In any event, this is not nearly as sour, or enjoyable in my opinion, as 006, 004, or 007. My order goes:

1. 006
2. 004
3. 007
4. 009
5. 008

mdfb79, Nov 08, 2011
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2/5  rDev -46.9%

Rochefort10nh, Dec 06, 2011
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3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

InspectorBob, Mar 27, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +12.7%

drewone, Oct 26, 2013
Photo of yourefragile
3.63/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750 mL bottle shared by Mike at a visit to Farmer's Cabinet Alexandria. We later experimented with force carbonating the beer, but I didn't feel like that was necessary or added anything to my (lack of) enjoyment of this.

Pours a turbid, deep reddish brown, near black. Some light tan bubbles form initially but obviously no head given the lack of carbonation. Some reddish legs coat the glass.

Aroma is an intense acidic and vinous blend of plums, grapes, chocolate, oak, red wine, bourbon and after someone rudely suggested Triple Block I began to imagine soy. While I enjoyed this blend and contrast of bold flavors in the aroma, I though the taste was a sloppy mess. Overly acidic, vinous and boozy, the sweet fruit flavors never quite integrate with blend of barrels.

Despite lack of carbonation, the body works well, with a chewy, medium thick base and a long tannic finish. I guess I'm interested in how this ages, but I wouldn't be surprised if this became really awesome or really terrible.

yourefragile, Aug 21, 2011
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Veritas 009 from The Lost Abbey
85 out of 100 based on 230 ratings.