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Veritas 009 - The Lost Abbey

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228 Ratings
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Ratings: 228
Reviews: 90
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 25.46%
Wants: 165
Gots: 84 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
The Lost Abbey visit their website
California, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: HopHead84 on 05-28-2011)
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5/5  rDev +32.6%

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Kelton, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of aasher
1.68/5  rDev -55.4%
look: 2 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

This one pours a dirty mop water brown with a slight beige lacing. It smells of sweet and sour port. Damn its sweet with sour notes. The flavor too is ever so slight wine barrel aging with a weird and awkward type sour. No complexity at all. It's really off putting. This barrel aging was awful. It really isn't even drinkable, and I love sours. This beer is weak and severely overrated. This was the second time I was fortunate enough to try this limited, $30 bottle. It was awful both times. Homer much?

aasher, Nov 12, 2011
Photo of DarthKostrizer
2.35/5  rDev -37.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to Ehammond1 for sharing this one and I finally got around to review it from my notes

Look: Pours an almost black color with no head at all and not much else going on

Smell: Some dark fruits plums soaked in alcohol comes to mind mixed in with a slight acidity and vinegar character

Taste: Very similar to the nose this one is very acidic and vinegary and very off putting. This was my least favorite beer of the night

Mouthfeel: Full body and zero carbonation almost like drinking flat pepsi

Overall: This was my least favorite beer of the night. The people I drank it with seemed to think there was something wrong but the only thing I could find wrong with it was bad taste.

DarthKostrizer, Nov 12, 2011
Photo of mdfb79
3.83/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

From 11/05/11 notes. Big thanks to craytonic for sharing this one; thanks Matt! Poured into my Cigar City snifter.

a - Pours a deep dark reddish-brown color with a dark purple tint, about two bubbles of head and almost no carbonation evident. Looks flat, as expected.

s - Smells of bourbon, oak, chocolate malts, vanilla, dark fruity malts, alcohol, red wine, light cherries. Bourbon and oak are very strong, as are dark fruits. Nice and I enjoy the nose, but not really sour at all.

t - Tastes of bourbon, oak, sweet dark fruity malts, red wine, and sour cherries. Light chocolate and roasted malts, but not as much as the nose. Some sourness and tart cherries here in the taste, but not what I traditionally think of in a sour as it is both sweet and sour at the same time, and still hevay on the bourbon. A little odd, but nice.

m - Medium body and no carbonation whatsoever. Docking it a little bit as I think it would have been better with some low carbonation. Still a smooth mouthfeel and it isn't bad, but I think some would have helped.

o - Overall a very interesting beer. The taste is both sweet and sour which is cool/interesting, thoough I'm not sure how much of this I would want to drink. I've now had five of the nine Veritas series beers and this one ranks 4/5; not saying this is bad, but shows the quality of the others. In any event, this is not nearly as sour, or enjoyable in my opinion, as 006, 004, or 007. My order goes:

1. 006
2. 004
3. 007
4. 009
5. 008

mdfb79, Nov 08, 2011
Photo of Kaydogg
4.33/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a dark brown, almost black with no head. looks like no carbonation

Aroma: Vanilla, chocolate, port wine, cherry fruit

Taste: wine notes, tart berry, chocolate, wood, wow really different.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied, little carbonation.

Overall: I guess I'm in the camp that loved this beer. I thought it was amazingly complex, sour with some chocolate. I was skeptical about everyone saying the lack of carbonation didn't hurt this beer and I kinda have to agree. It works rather well. A little more carb. would of put it over the top..extremely tasty.

Kaydogg, Oct 28, 2011
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3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle generously shared at Capone's yesterday buy a gentlemen of whom I did not catch his name. Anyway, thanks for the pour!

A: Deep dark brown body with absolutely no head, no active looking carbonation. Still as night. I was prefaced with the expectation that the body is fairly flat, so all things considered this is what I'd expect it to look like. Boring nonetheless.

S: Tart dark fruits, red grapes, plums and raisins. The back end has a nice smooth and acidic note along with hints of roasted chocolate malts and some toffee. Very interesting but I've smelled this profile before in others made in a similar fashion.

T: Chocolate and caramel roasted malts are up front, bitter dark bakers chocolate, sweet nuts, tart black cherry and plum. On the end is some residual vinegar-like elements, very divergent from any actual flavor itself. Tannins are left in the finish and linger.

M: Almost completely flat. There is the slightest touch of carbonation but it doesn't really go far, perhaps just on the back of the tongue. For me though it didn't really affect it too much from the sample I had. It is unfortunate it's flat however.

This was pretty good, it had a lot of good elements to it and seemed to execute them quite well. The lack of carbonation (a chronic problem for The Lost Abbey?) hurt the feel and appearance, and indirectly the nose for the lack of head. My first of the Veritas series and this was pretty decent. Nothing mind blowing or life changing, but good.

ShanePB, Oct 23, 2011
Photo of largadeer
4.22/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Andrew for opening one and AP for sending one my way.

Appearance: Still dark brown. No carbonation whatsoever. Fairly viscous, leggy body.

Aroma: Cocoa and cherries. Subdued sourness, bourbon and red wine, balsamic vinegar, molasses. A nice mix of sweet and sour.

Palate: More tartness than I was expecting, it opens with a nice lactic twang, with tart sour cherries not far behind. Medium-full body, flavors of chocolate, molasses and bourbon work surprisingly well with the sourness. Alcohol is well hidden. The mix of cherries, lactic sourness and dark malt is pretty enjoyable. This bottle had no carbonation to speak of, but I didn't feel it was to the beer's detriment.

largadeer, Oct 20, 2011
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2.1/5  rDev -44.3%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

no pop on the cork, pours a still black. fairly lifeless. no carbonation.

light vanilla and bourbon with a slight tart cherry very reminiscent of red poppy.

light tart cherry with a subtle mix of grape and cheap red wine. the bourbon and vanilla blended well however they never helped this out. i found this very 2 sided and completely lacking any complexity. it was 2 parts, cherry and bourbon. nothing special here.

dead flat with a hint of dryness.

this was boring, everyone i spoke with after i opened this agreed that it was more or less terrible.

hooliganlife, Oct 10, 2011
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1.25/5  rDev -66.8%
look: 2 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

A- Pours pitch black and flat. Not much going on here.
S- A lot of sour cherry, a bit of vanilla and coconut.
T- Complete and utter shit. Sour cherry dominates the palate and it is just beyond awful. You get some of the barrels as well, but christ this is an awfully disappointing beer.
M- Meh, the mouthfeel is probably the best part of this beer.

Overall: This was a drain pour for me. I took about three sips before deciding to dump it. This beer is beyond terrible and never should have been released. If this was a homebrewer's beer I could be a bit more forgiving, but I expect better from The Lost Abbey and Tomme. They're better than this.

Cedromar, Oct 05, 2011
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4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Shared with my brother. Out of a Brooklyn Brewery tulip. Reviewed from my notes.

A- Pitch black, no head, no lacing. Looks flat.

S- It has vinous notes, hints of vinegar. I also get chocolate, grape skins, and oak. I get a lot of Older Viscosity in this beer. It's surprisingly tart and funky for no additional sour yeasts.

T- Sour cherry tartness at first, smoothes to tastes of sherry/port, bouron. Again vinous notes, and tastes of sour grape skins. Quite mouth puckering at first, with more bourbon on the back end. Very remenicent of Older Viscosity at times, with the additional tart fruit.

M- No carbonation, which is not ideal. It doesn't need much, but this is flat. It is very complex, and very tart. The body is really nice too, but it needs some light bubbles.

O- Not bad, but the flatness did have a negative impact on the drinkability. The beer is very tart and has a very interesting flavor profile. There was a lot going on here, and at times it was a little too overwhelming.


Gfunk720, Sep 11, 2011
Photo of DovaliHops
4.47/5  rDev +18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Celebrating me finishing my first assignment in law school and my buddy getting a job! My first Veritas experience...Deep breaths...here it goes: Poured into Lost Abbey stemware. Pours a dark brown color with hues of red purple. Small tan head...I don't see why people say this beer isn't carbonated. Scent is initially chocolatey with nice, tart cherries. Maple syrup and molasses. Nice bourbon and vanilla aromas as well. Very complex nose. Taste is just as complex. Very rich and chocolatey...cocoa and red wine vinegar. Lots of cherry and sweet bourbon. Very acidic finish with a nice, warming alcohol burn. Mouthfeel is lightly carbonated (what can you expect from a beer that's basically 4 years in the making upon release), rich and full bodied. Drinkability is high. Overall, this beer is definitely meant to be sipped and savored like a fine wine. Extremely rich and complex. Great beer!

DovaliHops, Sep 10, 2011
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4.83/5  rDev +28.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured from bottle on 9/9/2011:

Appearance: Dark Brown nearly black, subtle tan head.

Smell: Chocolate, Bourbon, Molasses, Red Wine, Sherry, Cherries, Acidic.

Taste: Sour, Acidic, Red Berries, Cherries, Boozy, Woody, Wine notes, Sherry.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied, light carbonation.

Overall: Extremely complex, sour, sweet, boozy.

phichifiji00, Sep 09, 2011
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4.83/5  rDev +28.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

A: raisiny chocolatey brown with two millimeters of light brown gradient, flat, no lace.

S: sherry, kohlua and cacao, wood (especially cedar), hemp, red pepper, basil, fennel, pasta sauce, swiss cheese, light roast (non-acrid).

T: communion wine, lots of oak, lots of roast, but really nice smaller things: pomegranate, sour cherries, nutmeg, Bazooka bubble gum.

M: low to non-existent carbonation (my favorite part of this beer) and a lighter body than I would have expected--though in a great way. It feels more like a heavy read wine than anything else.

O: one of the most interesting beers that I've ever had. The stoutish part was pleasantly subdued (especially when warmed; gets much more sour as it gets warmer). Loved the wine, I think this as close as a beer has come to a good red wine (maybe a Syrah)--at least that I've tried. Very, very interesting hybrid/mutant.

nickhiller, Sep 09, 2011
Veritas 009 from The Lost Abbey
85 out of 100 based on 228 ratings.