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Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra) - New Belgium Brewing

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Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra)Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra)

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BA SCORE
83
good

218 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 218
Reviews: 35
rAvg: 3.65
pDev: 12.05%
Wants: 3
Gots: 17 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Belgium Brewing visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 10-25-2013)
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kojevergas

Texas

2.36/5  rDev -35.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Disclaimer: I don't pretend to know what the fuck Schisandra is.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded pry-off pressure cap acquired at a local TX bottle shop and served into an Avery stem-tulip in my gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average given that this is a non-sour Lips of Faith beer; they tend to be underwhelming. Reviewed as a dubbel because the label clearly identifies it as such. 8% ABV confirmed per the label.

Served cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: No bubble show forms as it's poured.

Pours a one finger wide head of pale khaki colour. Nicely creamy. Good thickness. Has a supple and somewhat soft complexion. Head retention is above average - about 3-4 minutes. Uneven lacing clings to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Body colour is a really dark amber. Translucent but nontransparent. Glows when blacklit. It's a clean appearance; no yeast particles or sediment is visible. Appears adequately carbonated.

Overall, it's not horribly apt for the style and nothing about it suggests this beer is unique or special. Expectations are still below average. No good dubbel I've ever had has looked like this.

Sm: The aroma is more en pointe. Wisps of dark fruit dominate: fig, plum, dates, prunes, maybe dark cherries. I don't know what the hell schisandra is, but I do find a sarsaparilla/sassafras-esque fruit presence mixed with some tobacco and general earthiness. Clove. Belgian candi sugar. Light bready malts. Shoe leather (as pretentious as that sounds).

There's a definite malty sweetness here which is well within style conventions. I don't pick up on any hop bitterness or hop notes, nor do I find explicit yeast character or alcohol. There are no off-notes per se, but I'm not horribly drawn to the beer based on the aroma.

An inoffensive aroma of mild strength.

T/Mf: The sweetness is more intense than anticipated. The dark fruits (fig, dates, and prunes) are actually kind of buried, and struggle to compete with a much more dominant fruit presence which I assume is schisandra. It comes off a bit medicinal, but in a tolerable way. It isn't the sticky cough syrup medicinal character you'd find in a Lost Coast beer, for example. I also find notes of miracle fruit and cherry.

Smooth, wet, and lightly creamy. Slightly soft. Overcarbonated. Medium body. Average thickness. Presence on the palate is decent, but this texture doesn't seem ideal for a dubbel.

Not oily, astringent, gushed, hot, boozy, or harsh.

The malty core doesn't feel real Belgian and the clove from the aroma is nowhere to be found. If Trappist yeast was used, I'm not picking up on it. I do find some Belgian candi sugar, which lends still more unnecessary sweetness to the flavour profile.

No hop character is detectable. I do pick up on some alcohol.

The sassafras character doesn't work here at all. It has touches of sarsaparilla/root beer, which don't really work in a dubbel. I'm also not digging the tobacco, which is unappealing on its own but is made worse alongside the equally inappropriate notes of bubblegum. As it warms, I'm getting banana and an abundance of phenols.

Overall, I'm not a big fan. While it's got some nuance and complexity, the schisandra hurts more than it helps. It's not well balanced beer, nor is it a subtle one, but it does have decent cohesion. A good dubbel has a delicate mouthfeel, a balanced subtle flavour profile, and exquisite dark fruit. This fails on all those fronts, and doesn't even have a yeast character that evokes a Belgian character - let alone a Trappist one.

Dr: Like most Lips of Faith series beers, this has a nice price point but fails to bring the quality. If you're looking for a good craft bomber at a fair price, look elsewhere (i.e. Lagunitas). This is disappointing and I wouldn't want another. That said, it's drinkable for its 8% ABV and I'll have no trouble finishing the bottle. I'd caution friends and trade partners from trying this one; it just plain misses the mark for the style. Even outside of dubbel conventions, it's just not a beer I'm enjoying drinking.

Well below average.

D+

Serving type: bottle

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New Mexico

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New York

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California

2.75/5  rDev -24.7%

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Alabama

2.75/5  rDev -24.7%

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UCLABrewN84

California

2.99/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On tap for the 2014 Los Angeles Vegan Beer Festival held in West Hollywood, CA.

Pours an almost opaque super dark brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, fruit, plastic, and chemical aromas. Taste is much the same with fruit and plastic flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of earth bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is an average beer that has odd plastic and chemical qualities all around.

Serving type: on-tap

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Maryland

3/5  rDev -17.8%

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3/5  rDev -17.8%

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Jrock57

Florida

3/5  rDev -17.8%

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tanzbodeli

Wisconsin

3/5  rDev -17.8%

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AlexFields

Tennessee

3/5  rDev -17.8%

02-26-2014 00:35:27 | More by AlexFields
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psdonnelly

Alabama

3/5  rDev -17.8%

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3/5  rDev -17.8%

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Colorado

3.08/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle. Pours ruby amber with a medium creamy off white head that retains well and laces the glass.

The aroma is sweet caramel malt and Belgian yeast with some spice, fruit and tobacco.

The flavor is sweet bubblegum malts with some slightly tart cherry fruits and a little peppery leathery roast. The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied and pretty watery.

Overall, interesting but kind of an odd combination of flavors with a weird aftertaste.

Serving type: bottle

12-07-2013 05:34:55 | More by Beaver13
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mactrail

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3.14/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This stuff is golden brown in color, an unusual shade for a beer. The white foam looks innocuous enough. Odd aroma of chestnuts and some indescribably herbal tea. Hibiscus amplified.

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Serving type: bottle

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California

3.2/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Clear brown colored beer with poor head formation.

Smells of caramel and tobacco leaf with some pepper. Fainter banana scents. Small amount of smoke and apple scent.

Starts out mildly fruity. Bruised banana flavor. with some pepper. Medium level of bitterness. Hard to describe this one, just not a lot of taste here. Faint tobacco flavor.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Overall, just not that flavorful. In summary WTF did I just drink?

Serving type: bottle

12-10-2013 01:43:49 | More by Zorro
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Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra) from New Belgium Brewing
83 out of 100 based on 218 ratings.