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Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra) - New Belgium Brewing

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Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra)Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra)

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292 Ratings
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Ratings: 292
Reviews: 41
rAvg: 3.64
pDev: 13.46%
Wants: 7
Gots: 30 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
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Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 10-25-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
2.98/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On tap for the 2014 Los Angeles Vegan Beer Festival held in West Hollywood, CA.

Pours an almost opaque super dark brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Small streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, fruit, plastic, and chemical aromas. Taste is much the same with fruit and plastic flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of earth bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is an average beer that has odd plastic and chemical qualities all around.

Photo of zestar
3.5/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of Texasfan549
3.6/5  rDev -1.1%

Photo of GRG1313
3/5  rDev -17.6%

Photo of kjkinsey
3.65/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of kylehay2004
4/5  rDev +9.9%

Photo of jaydoc
3.5/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of SocalKicks
3.5/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.25/5  rDev -10.7%

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.02/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

i was a little bummed to miss this one in a bottle when it came out, but given some really lackluster beers in this series, i sort of avoided it, so it was nice to see it reappear on draft this weekend. its either really underrated, or has evolved really well since its release, because i thought it was delicious. looks the part, minus the head, it has a nice dark amber red glowing color, without much head, the part that makes it less appealing visually. smells and tastes funky and belgian at the same time, but not like a saison or anything, i think the wild comes first, bretty and a little acidic at this point, with a lot of dark fruit in the malt profile and bubbles that tickle my nose. there is a cool spice to the flavor that goes really well with the dark sweet malt, but again, not like a saison at all, and has a ton of funk to the finish. dries out quick after a sweet start, with some molasses and berry flavors, but totally yeast driven still. something special here, and something totally unique, which makes it one of a kind. i prefer that, being challenged and exposed to something new like this. as good as this series has been, but i can see it being a lot better now than it was, might not be so good without all this weird yeast. very well done, i want to find a bottle now to hang on to. potentially influential stuff, ive seen some posers already.

Photo of largadeer
3.25/5  rDev -10.7%

Photo of oberon
4/5  rDev +9.9%

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.3/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

22 ounce bottle - $8.48 at Sherlock's in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a clear, garnet-hued body with an initially foamy, but, quickly receding, off-white head. Slim lace coating.

Smell: Sweet-scented, moderately spicy, and with transient, less-than-potent notes of pink peppercorn, cinnamon, tobacco, chocolate, brown sugar, and bubblegum-flavored vodka.

Taste: Sour berries enveloped generously in brown sugar and spice atop some light toast, light chocolate. Bubblegum. A little snap of sharp herb. Fairly sweet, still. Pepper, tobacco on the back half and into the spicy-sweet, warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-plus body. Medium carbonation. A bit silken.

Overall: Wild². Not bad, but certainly not great, either. Like the film Prometheus, I'm just happy to have made my way through it.

Photo of biboergosum
3.68/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

16oz glass at the Craft Beer Market in Cowtown, where the New Belgium Alberta release party is in full swing. Imma gonna have to look up what Schisandra is later.

This beer appears a clear, dark reddish brown colour, with a thin cap of loosely bubbly ecru head, which leaves a pockmarked wall of painted lace around the glass as things slowly sink away.

It smells of sour pale grain, peppery yeast, edgy, yet generic black fruit, a light funkiness, some metallic flintiness, and earthy leafy hops. The taste is sour dark fruit, gritty pale and caramel malt, a kind of band aid like astringency, a further touch of toffee sweetness, funky yeast, mild abstract roast, and earthy, weedy, and perfumed hops.

The carbonation is quite soft, just a trilling frothiness, the body an adequate medium weight, and perhaps a bit tacky in its smoothness. It finishes off-dry, yeasty, funky, and semi-sweet in its lingering graininess.

What we have here, is apparently a wild dubbel, we do, with all its attendant characteristics, bolstered somewhat by some peculiar Asian fruit adjunct. Evenly sour, exotically fruity, and more drinkable than yer average American wild ale, this much is certain.

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4/5  rDev +9.9%

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.61/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

An interesting beer. It almost seems like a cross between a dunkelweizen and a Belgian ale. All the characteristics I would expect to see: clove, banana, yeasty esters. Only a minimal amount of candy sugar on the back. The nose was a turn off at first, but this turned out to be a nice one. A nice pleasant drinker.

Photo of XmnwildX12
2/5  rDev -45.1%

Photo of russpowell
3.74/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a crimson hued brown with a pinky of cream colored head. Above average lacing & average head retention

S: Plums, cinnamon & red hots candy, plus funk once warm

T: Follows the nose, a touch of leafy hops & funk up front. Funk picks up once warm, more cinnamon, a bit of leafy hops & oaky dryness, a bit of green bananas. Finishes dry, oaky with a fruity kiss of plums, persimmons & cinnamon

MF: Medium bodied, firm carbonation

Drinks easy, not mind blowing, but enjoyable. If you want mucho funk or hate cinnamon, this is not your beer I'm betting..

Photo of mactrail
3.16/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This stuff is golden brown in color, an unusual shade for a beer. The white foam looks innocuous enough. Odd aroma of chestnuts and some indescribably herbal tea. Hibiscus amplified.

Don't be expecting a beery flavor if you try this. This starts out with a tart sensation and some sweet fruitiness. It make me think of red currants along with pineapple guava, unripe persimmons, and sweet Vermouth. A hint of salty sweat. Then, finally there is some splash of Belgian yeast, dark fruits, and a dry finish.

If you've ever tasted Chinese medicinal wine, that would give you the idea. They call it "five flavor berry." I think it's kind of a scary flavor, but it's actually drinkable for the adventurous. I'm putting the cap on and see how I feel tomorrow before I tackle another glass. From the 22 oz bottle purchased at Bottlecraft in San Diego.

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3.5/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of kojevergas
2.4/5  rDev -34.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Disclaimer: I don't pretend to know what the fuck Schisandra is.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded pry-off pressure cap acquired at a local TX bottle shop and served into an Avery stem-tulip in my gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average given that this is a non-sour Lips of Faith beer; they tend to be underwhelming. Reviewed as a dubbel because the label clearly identifies it as such. 8% ABV confirmed per the label.

Served cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: No bubble show forms as it's poured.

Pours a one finger wide head of pale khaki colour. Nicely creamy. Good thickness. Has a supple and somewhat soft complexion. Head retention is above average - about 3-4 minutes. Uneven lacing clings to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Body colour is a really dark amber. Translucent but nontransparent. Glows when blacklit. It's a clean appearance; no yeast particles or sediment is visible. Appears adequately carbonated.

Overall, it's not horribly apt for the style and nothing about it suggests this beer is unique or special. Expectations are still below average. No good dubbel I've ever had has looked like this.

Sm: The aroma is more en pointe. Wisps of dark fruit dominate: fig, plum, dates, prunes, maybe dark cherries. I don't know what the hell schisandra is, but I do find a sarsaparilla/sassafras-esque fruit presence mixed with some tobacco and general earthiness. Clove. Belgian candi sugar. Light bready malts. Shoe leather (as pretentious as that sounds).

There's a definite malty sweetness here which is well within style conventions. I don't pick up on any hop bitterness or hop notes, nor do I find explicit yeast character or alcohol. There are no off-notes per se, but I'm not horribly drawn to the beer based on the aroma.

An inoffensive aroma of mild strength.

T/Mf: The sweetness is more intense than anticipated. The dark fruits (fig, dates, and prunes) are actually kind of buried, and struggle to compete with a much more dominant fruit presence which I assume is schisandra. It comes off a bit medicinal, but in a tolerable way. It isn't the sticky cough syrup medicinal character you'd find in a Lost Coast beer, for example. I also find notes of miracle fruit and cherry.

Smooth, wet, and lightly creamy. Slightly soft. Overcarbonated. Medium body. Average thickness. Presence on the palate is decent, but this texture doesn't seem ideal for a dubbel.

Not oily, astringent, gushed, hot, boozy, or harsh.

The malty core doesn't feel real Belgian and the clove from the aroma is nowhere to be found. If Trappist yeast was used, I'm not picking up on it. I do find some Belgian candi sugar, which lends still more unnecessary sweetness to the flavour profile.

No hop character is detectable. I do pick up on some alcohol.

The sassafras character doesn't work here at all. It has touches of sarsaparilla/root beer, which don't really work in a dubbel. I'm also not digging the tobacco, which is unappealing on its own but is made worse alongside the equally inappropriate notes of bubblegum. As it warms, I'm getting banana and an abundance of phenols.

Overall, I'm not a big fan. While it's got some nuance and complexity, the schisandra hurts more than it helps. It's not well balanced beer, nor is it a subtle one, but it does have decent cohesion. A good dubbel has a delicate mouthfeel, a balanced subtle flavour profile, and exquisite dark fruit. This fails on all those fronts, and doesn't even have a yeast character that evokes a Belgian character - let alone a Trappist one.

Dr: Like most Lips of Faith series beers, this has a nice price point but fails to bring the quality. If you're looking for a good craft bomber at a fair price, look elsewhere (i.e. Lagunitas). This is disappointing and I wouldn't want another. That said, it's drinkable for its 8% ABV and I'll have no trouble finishing the bottle. I'd caution friends and trade partners from trying this one; it just plain misses the mark for the style. Even outside of dubbel conventions, it's just not a beer I'm enjoying drinking.

Well below average.

D+

Photo of DrBier
3.5/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of GClarkage
4/5  rDev +9.9%

Photo of superspak
3.68/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into signature globe glass, bottled on 9/7/2013. Pours crystal clear ruby red color with a 1-2 finger dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of raisin, plum, red berry, pear, apple, clove, pepper, cinnamon, caramel, toast, candi sugar, herbal, floral, grass, light funk, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Nice and unique aromas with good complexity of malt, yeast ester, and spice notes; with good strength. Taste of raisin, plum, red berry, pear, apple, toast, clove, pepper, candi sugar, cinnamon, herbal, floral, grass, light funk, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Slight fruity tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of raisin, plum, red berry, pear, apple, toast, clove, cinnamon, candi sugar, herbal, grass, and herbal/yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Nice complexity and robustness of malt, yeast ester, and spice flavors; with a nice malt/yeast flavor balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a smooth, fairly creamy, and lightly slick/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light warming present after the finish. Overall this is a nice spiced dubbel style. Good balance and complexity of malt, yeast ester, and spice flavors; and very smooth to sip on. A nicely enjoyable offering.

Photo of imperialking
3.5/5  rDev -3.8%

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Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra) from New Belgium Brewing
82 out of 100 based on 292 ratings.