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Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra) - New Belgium Brewing

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Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra)Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra)

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83
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277 Ratings
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Ratings: 277
Reviews: 39
rAvg: 3.63
pDev: 13.77%
Wants: 4
Gots: 29 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
New Belgium Brewing visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 10-25-2013)
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3.5/5  rDev -3.6%

joshrosborne, Mar 18, 2014
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3/5  rDev -17.4%

oso, Mar 18, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev +3.3%

King_KongDCO93, Mar 17, 2014
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3.5/5  rDev -3.6%

BigGold, Mar 16, 2014
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4/5  rDev +10.2%

WillCarrera, Mar 16, 2014
Photo of mactrail
3.14/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This stuff is golden brown in color, an unusual shade for a beer. The white foam looks innocuous enough. Odd aroma of chestnuts and some indescribably herbal tea. Hibiscus amplified.

Don't be expecting a beery flavor if you try this. This starts out with a tart sensation and some sweet fruitiness. It make me think of red currants along with pineapple guava, unripe persimmons, and sweet Vermouth. A hint of salty sweat. Then, finally there is some splash of Belgian yeast, dark fruits, and a dry finish.

If you've ever tasted Chinese medicinal wine, that would give you the idea. They call it "five flavor berry." I think it's kind of a scary flavor, but it's actually drinkable for the adventurous. I'm putting the cap on and see how I feel tomorrow before I tackle another glass. From the 22 oz bottle purchased at Bottlecraft in San Diego.

mactrail, Mar 16, 2014
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3.54/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a rusty brown, like overdone sun tea. Honestly the aroma was the best part of this one for me. Clove, banana peel, cinnamon candies and plums with some underlying Brett funk notes. Some similarities in the flavors, plums and brown sugar/caramel malts cut through some of the funk. The most tantalizing aspect of the taste for me, was the late hit of sour cherry in the back that gets swept away by earthy herb dryness. Mouthfeel is treading between lingering and too sticky. The sweetness stays on the tongue.

PintSizedLover, Mar 14, 2014
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4/5  rDev +10.2%

vermilcj, Mar 11, 2014
Photo of kojevergas
2.36/5  rDev -35%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Disclaimer: I don't pretend to know what the fuck Schisandra is.

1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded pry-off pressure cap acquired at a local TX bottle shop and served into an Avery stem-tulip in my gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average given that this is a non-sour Lips of Faith beer; they tend to be underwhelming. Reviewed as a dubbel because the label clearly identifies it as such. 8% ABV confirmed per the label.

Served cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: No bubble show forms as it's poured.

Pours a one finger wide head of pale khaki colour. Nicely creamy. Good thickness. Has a supple and somewhat soft complexion. Head retention is above average - about 3-4 minutes. Uneven lacing clings to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

Body colour is a really dark amber. Translucent but nontransparent. Glows when blacklit. It's a clean appearance; no yeast particles or sediment is visible. Appears adequately carbonated.

Overall, it's not horribly apt for the style and nothing about it suggests this beer is unique or special. Expectations are still below average. No good dubbel I've ever had has looked like this.

Sm: The aroma is more en pointe. Wisps of dark fruit dominate: fig, plum, dates, prunes, maybe dark cherries. I don't know what the hell schisandra is, but I do find a sarsaparilla/sassafras-esque fruit presence mixed with some tobacco and general earthiness. Clove. Belgian candi sugar. Light bready malts. Shoe leather (as pretentious as that sounds).

There's a definite malty sweetness here which is well within style conventions. I don't pick up on any hop bitterness or hop notes, nor do I find explicit yeast character or alcohol. There are no off-notes per se, but I'm not horribly drawn to the beer based on the aroma.

An inoffensive aroma of mild strength.

T/Mf: The sweetness is more intense than anticipated. The dark fruits (fig, dates, and prunes) are actually kind of buried, and struggle to compete with a much more dominant fruit presence which I assume is schisandra. It comes off a bit medicinal, but in a tolerable way. It isn't the sticky cough syrup medicinal character you'd find in a Lost Coast beer, for example. I also find notes of miracle fruit and cherry.

Smooth, wet, and lightly creamy. Slightly soft. Overcarbonated. Medium body. Average thickness. Presence on the palate is decent, but this texture doesn't seem ideal for a dubbel.

Not oily, astringent, gushed, hot, boozy, or harsh.

The malty core doesn't feel real Belgian and the clove from the aroma is nowhere to be found. If Trappist yeast was used, I'm not picking up on it. I do find some Belgian candi sugar, which lends still more unnecessary sweetness to the flavour profile.

No hop character is detectable. I do pick up on some alcohol.

The sassafras character doesn't work here at all. It has touches of sarsaparilla/root beer, which don't really work in a dubbel. I'm also not digging the tobacco, which is unappealing on its own but is made worse alongside the equally inappropriate notes of bubblegum. As it warms, I'm getting banana and an abundance of phenols.

Overall, I'm not a big fan. While it's got some nuance and complexity, the schisandra hurts more than it helps. It's not well balanced beer, nor is it a subtle one, but it does have decent cohesion. A good dubbel has a delicate mouthfeel, a balanced subtle flavour profile, and exquisite dark fruit. This fails on all those fronts, and doesn't even have a yeast character that evokes a Belgian character - let alone a Trappist one.

Dr: Like most Lips of Faith series beers, this has a nice price point but fails to bring the quality. If you're looking for a good craft bomber at a fair price, look elsewhere (i.e. Lagunitas). This is disappointing and I wouldn't want another. That said, it's drinkable for its 8% ABV and I'll have no trouble finishing the bottle. I'd caution friends and trade partners from trying this one; it just plain misses the mark for the style. Even outside of dubbel conventions, it's just not a beer I'm enjoying drinking.

Well below average.

D+

kojevergas, Mar 11, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev +3.3%

Azeotrope, Mar 11, 2014
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4/5  rDev +10.2%

gkjhawk, Mar 11, 2014
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3/5  rDev -17.4%

smartassboiler, Mar 08, 2014
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3.25/5  rDev -10.5%

jwchestnut, Mar 03, 2014
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2.75/5  rDev -24.2%

brauseboof, Mar 02, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +17.1%

midnitesun11, Mar 02, 2014
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3.25/5  rDev -10.5%

harpus, Mar 02, 2014
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3.79/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

I picked up a bottle of New Belgium's Wild2 Dubbel from their Lips of Faith series last month for $8.59 at The Lager Mill. This beer seems pretty interesting and I know for a fact that I've never had a beer brewed with Schisandra and I didn't even know what it was till I googled it, so lets see how it goes. 2013 Vintage. Poured from a brown 22oz bottle into a Belgian tulip.

A- The bottle looks nice, there's a nice western theme to it with a nice looking wood grain background, it's a little eye catching. It poured a nice and fairly clear crimson brown color that took took on more of a crimson and dark ruby hue when held to the light with two fingers worth of light tan head that died down to a thin ring that stayed till the end and it left some nice patchy lacing behind. This is a pretty good looking, I have no complaints.

S- The aroma starts off with a higher amount of sweetness that has a slight candied sugar like aroma to it and it's followed by a slight roasted malt aroma being the first to show up and it's quickly followed by some Belgian yeast being the fist to show up and it imparts a light bubble gum and a pretty noticeable banana like aroma that mixes nicely with some other fruity aromas with some dark fruit and plum like aromas showing up next. Towards the end comes some somewhat lighter funky farmhouse yeast aromas that are a little brett like and there's also a spice and almost cinnamon like aroma. The aroma was pretty nice, it was pretty unique and interesting, but it was a little on the sweet side.

T- The taste seems to be fairly similar to the aroma, but it's lighter and it starts off with a higher amount of medium sweetness that has a slight brown sugar like flavor to it followed by some nice malt flavors that's a little Dubbel like and it's quickly followed by the same Belgian yeast and fruity aspects that I got in the aroma, but there's also a little tartness to it. Up next comes some funky farmhouse and brett like flavors with a higher amount of low bitterness and a sweet, Belgian yeast, and brett like aftertaste. This was a pretty nice tasting beer, it was unique and fairly complex.

M- Fairly smooth, pretty crisp, lively, medium bodied with a higher amount of medium carbonation. This beer had a pretty good mouthfeel that worked nicely with this beer.

Overall I thought this was a pretty nice beer, it for sure wasn't a true to style example of style, but that wasn't what New Belgium was going for and it worked out nicely, it made for fairly complex, interesting and unique beer. This beer had nice drinkability, it was fairly smooth, crisp, a little prickly, not too filling and the taste did a nice job at holding my attention, one pint seems like a good amount for me, I could probably take out the whole bottle but the sweetness and lively carbonation might start to wear on me so I think sharing it is the way to go. What I like the most about this beer was how unique it was, I don't think I've had a beer that has tasted similar to this one. What I liked the least about this beer was nothing, there isn't anything that I disliked or would change about this beer, it's fine just the way it is. I would buy this again and I would like to throw one in the cellar and see how it changes over time. I would recommend this to people that don't mind a Dubbel with a little funk to it's that's a little more fruity then you usually get with the style. All in all I was pretty happy with this beer and I really liked how different it was. It's not a favorite from the Lips of Faith series, but it's still pretty good and I would like to see more breweries try something like this. Good job guys, keep up the good and unique work.

StoutHunter, Feb 28, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +17.1%

AlaskanYoung, Feb 26, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +17.1%

Ispeakforthetrees, Feb 26, 2014
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3/5  rDev -17.4%

AlexFields, Feb 26, 2014
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4/5  rDev +10.2%

joemcgrath27, Feb 25, 2014
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4/5  rDev +10.2%

schnarr84, Feb 25, 2014
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3.66/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

16oz glass at the Craft Beer Market in Cowtown, where the New Belgium Alberta release party is in full swing. Imma gonna have to look up what Schisandra is later.

This beer appears a clear, dark reddish brown colour, with a thin cap of loosely bubbly ecru head, which leaves a pockmarked wall of painted lace around the glass as things slowly sink away.

It smells of sour pale grain, peppery yeast, edgy, yet generic black fruit, a light funkiness, some metallic flintiness, and earthy leafy hops. The taste is sour dark fruit, gritty pale and caramel malt, a kind of band aid like astringency, a further touch of toffee sweetness, funky yeast, mild abstract roast, and earthy, weedy, and perfumed hops.

The carbonation is quite soft, just a trilling frothiness, the body an adequate medium weight, and perhaps a bit tacky in its smoothness. It finishes off-dry, yeasty, funky, and semi-sweet in its lingering graininess.

What we have here, is apparently a wild dubbel, we do, with all its attendant characteristics, bolstered somewhat by some peculiar Asian fruit adjunct. Evenly sour, exotically fruity, and more drinkable than yer average American wild ale, this much is certain.

biboergosum, Feb 25, 2014
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4/5  rDev +10.2%

bcnolby, Feb 23, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev +3.3%

livingtodie, Feb 22, 2014
Lips Of Faith - Wild2 Dubbel (Ale Brewed With Schisandra) from New Belgium Brewing
83 out of 100 based on 277 ratings.