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Lips Of Faith - Vrienden (Allagash Collaboration) - New Belgium Brewing

Lips Of Faith - Vrienden (Allagash Collaboration)Lips Of Faith - Vrienden (Allagash Collaboration)

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270 Ratings
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Ratings: 270
Reviews: 173
rAvg: 3.69
pDev: 13.82%


Brewed by:
New Belgium Brewing visit their website
Colorado, United States

Style | ABV
American Wild Ale |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Wild beer with brettanomyces.

(Beer added by: mcallister on 08-02-2010)
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Overlord

California

1.88/5  rDev -49.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

Pours a golden orange. Just a thin white crust around the edge of the glass. Maybe a few laces of foam.

Smells like flowers, a bit of spicey ... cloves? ... maybe a hint of the tropics. Kind of like ... pineapple husks. Kind of pleasant actually. Certainly different.

Taste is, unfortunately, kind of a bit of a trainwreck of shit. Sickly sweet metallic sweetness. An undercurrent of perfumed spices. Flat. Egads. What is that horrid spice aftertaste. So. Awful.

I'm going to have to drainpour 75% of this bottle. These guys just need to make ERic's Ale and La Folie full time.

Serving type: bottle

01-08-2011 08:32:39 | More by Overlord
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BearsOnAcid

Massachusetts

2.08/5  rDev -43.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Carmel appearance, white head.
Grass, steamed green vegetable, zebra stripe gum, some hibiscus and smoke. There's a pretty wide variety of aromas in this beer apparently. They are all pretty subtle though.

Very subtle metallic sourness, somewhat fruity endive, vegetable flavor, and carmel sweetness. There is this smokey meat bitterness on the end. I don't know what it is but it's very faint. Reminds me of gristle. I don't even know why I'm thinking of smokey meat but this flavor is clashing with what I'm guessing is hop bitterness. Yeah...that's no good.

This beer was an utter disappointment, much like some others in the Lips of Faith series. Maybe the Allagash version will be a little more thoughtful and have some balls to it.

Serving type: bottle

01-11-2011 20:00:28 | More by BearsOnAcid
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Thorpe429

Illinois

2.1/5  rDev -43.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

On tap at Meridian Pint during the Allagash and New Belgium event.

Wow, what a HUGE difference!

New Belgium version is a clear pale orange color with a thin white head, a collar throughout, and a bit of lacing.

The nose is really, really tame compare to the Allagash tasting. There is a bit of bread and really not much else. Flavor is bready with just a mild touch of earthiness in the background. Really bland. Body is light with a touch of malt sweetness. Really? Not good at all. For shame.

Serving type: on-tap

03-26-2012 22:56:20 | More by Thorpe429
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muttyd

Massachusetts

2.17/5  rDev -41.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Pours a pale amber/yellow with a moderate 1/4 inch white head. Beer looks good, but it goes down hill from there. Very muted, mild aroma. Some brett funk, sweet corn, pale malts. Flavor is also pretty mellow: slightly sour apples, pale bready malts, and some herbal hops. Everything about this beer is subtle and/or masked behind other mild characteristics. Not at all impressed. Mouthfeel is pretty good, but even that doesn't redeem this beer.

Avoid this one, folks.

Serving type: bottle

05-15-2011 01:31:46 | More by muttyd
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madvermin

California

2.33/5  rDev -36.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Pours exactly the color of warm maple syrup, with good clarity and a fizzy head. Dissipation was very quick, and lace was spotty and average.

Nose is weak, but very clearly has hibiscus at the front end. Floral, perfume scent of the hibiscus is nice, but sharply contrasted by the sour undertones of the beer. I can't say I like it very much. A little bit of vegetable character, like rhubarb, comes out a bit in the middle, but it isn't much. Maybe it's the endive, or maybe I'm imagining things.

Taste starts with a weak sour pucker, a floral/fruity taste of hibiscus combined with the brett, and moves to a funky middle. Funk is sort of melded with more fruit, and it tastes weird. That weirdness carries to the finish, where the palate is left with an odd mix of funk, fruit, sour and general discomfort.

Mouthfeel is on the thinner side, with too much carbonation for how mellow the beer is trying to be. Fortunately, the flavors get masked a bit by the prickliness so I can't hate on the mouthfeel completely. Drinkability is tough to rate; I don't have a particularly tough time taking swigs of this, but I didn't enjoy it at all.

Serving type: bottle

05-04-2011 06:16:49 | More by madvermin
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ktrillionaire

Florida

2.42/5  rDev -34.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

On-tap at Delilah's

A - It pours a brassy amber hue, and is capped with wisps of soapy froth.

S - The nose is flowery (jasmine, orange blossom, hibiscus), Belgian-yeasty in a chalky-peppery way, and has some punchy clove.

T - The beer is very lighly flavored; in fact, it tastes like it has Splenda or NutraSweet in it. Diet sour beer, anyone? Artificial notes mimicking the rainbow of Starburst flavors are suggested, along with a sort of generic Belgian Pale yeasty note. Fail.

M - Wine cooler steez.

O - Not a very good offering from the increasingly poor Lips of Faith series. This is probably only a step above the embarassing Transatlantic Kriek

Serving type: on-tap

05-07-2011 05:17:50 | More by ktrillionaire
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womencantsail

California

2.65/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

On-tap at Beachwood

A: The pour is a clear amber color with a thin off-white head.

S: The nose is really cidery. Lots of apples, some white grapes, flowers, and some metal. There are perhaps some sour cherry notes as the beer warms up.

T: Gah, intensely metallic with apples, light cherries, and some definite cough syrup (which becomes more pronounced as the beer warms up). Maybe some banana flavors in there too, and a mild malty sweetness.

M: The body is light to medium with a moderate level of carbonation.

D: What a let down. I've enjoyed most of the New Belgium beers I've had, but this was not something I cared for at all. I'm glad I just got a small pour rather than splurging on a bottle.

Serving type: on-tap

12-30-2010 20:43:54 | More by womencantsail
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coreyfmcdonald

Georgia

2.65/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

22oz bottle into a snifter

A: Pours a slightly cloudy light orange with two full fingers of head and very lively carbonation throughout. Retention is very good. A very nice looking beer.

S: Very dry smelling, I get some bready malts, light brett funk, and a good amount of floral notes.

T: Similar to aroma, yet not quite as clean. Beer starts out with some tropical fruity sweetness. Light Brett funk and a bit of floral notes again, yet not as strong as the aroma. The beer is still quite dry, but not as dry as I thought it'd be from the aroma. The aftertaste leaves an odd flavor, almost a lingering funkiness.

M: Way overcarbonated, but the body is appropriate.

O: A bit boring with an odd mixture of flavors. The aroma was promising, but the flavor did not follow through. Also, the beer is way overcarbonated - it is quite distracting.

Serving type: bottle

03-19-2012 01:59:47 | More by coreyfmcdonald
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slowbie

North Carolina

2.73/5  rDev -26%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a clear copper color with a one finger head that dissipates quickly.

Good bretty aromas coming through. A little bit of the lactic character pokes through in the aroma as well.

Taste is very subdued, especially compared to the aroma. The brett flavors are very mild compared to the other brett beers I've had (a couple Cantillons, some Jolly Pumpkins, and year old Victory Wild Devil are the main ones coming to mind).

It's also not nearly as sour as I expected. I enjoy wild ales that aren't as sour (e.g. Jolly Pumpkin) but this one needs something more. It also doesn't help that I expected more sourness from a beer that says LACTOBACILLUS in large letters in the description on the bottle.

Mouthfeel is good for a wild ale. Nice strong carbonation.

Overall this is still a very enjoyable beer, but it's also one of the worst wild ales I've had. Could be a great intro to the style though.

Serving type: bottle

03-21-2011 02:21:03 | More by slowbie
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Gobzilla

California

2.8/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a golden yellow in color with brownish highlights that had no head and left absolutely no lacing sticking to the glass. I honestly didn't get too much sour or acidic character but I did detect some brown sugar with belgian yeast in the nose alongside dark fruits and faint caramel notes. The taste was also lacking the wild ale characteristics but was belgian yeasty with mild fruity, brown suagr, and caramel accents but no sour bite at all. The brew was medium in body with a low amount of carbonation which had a mild fruity, yeasty, and sweet finish. Definitely not digging this brew at all especially since there is nothing wild about it. They have to go back to the drawing board on this one.

Serving type: bottle

01-11-2011 03:53:15 | More by Gobzilla
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Arbitrator

California

2.83/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

On tap at the Rose & Crown. Something like $8 for a 33cL pour.

A: Pours a copper-orange body with good clarity. A nice 1" off-white head caps the beer and leaves a nice puff of bubbles in the center after it collapses. Not much lace.

S: This smells like a lightly soured apple cider. A rustic, woodsy quality and fermenting red apples greet the nose. Mild cherry notes. Not all that pungent or complex, but it's pleasant.

T: A lightly acidic taste accompanied by red apples, cherries, and cherry skins. It's light in flavor and even quaffable; in the end, I had to down it pretty quickly because we were leaving, and that's not something I could do with most sours. The apples become more pronounced in the flavor as the beer warms.

M: Light-bodied, moderately effervescent. Not very acidic, which is a plus. It brings out some booze as it warms, which is a negative.

D: Mediocre, especially for the price. Not offensive, just forgettable. I wouldn't have it again.

Serving type: on-tap

03-02-2011 23:44:50 | More by Arbitrator
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Twal

Colorado

2.93/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Well for starters I can say do not pair this w/ anything spicy or maybe w/ any food at all,It completely wiped out any flavor the beer has.I had a little (very small amount) of Capicola ham and French Blue cheese and I couldn't get any sour or flavor.After the food it had a metallic taste,like a blood iron taste..

At any rate I had a really hard time getting any flavor out of this beer.There was a nice sour taste but it was so faint it was disappointing,quickly dissipates.

Hard to believe this beer is 8.5% ,that's actually scary! It seems they were going for the High ABV and drink-ability rather flavor.

I think it could be a great beer if they could just get more of the flavor out of it.

Serving type: bottle

01-22-2011 03:08:27 | More by Twal
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beerwolf77

Wisconsin

2.93/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to wisconsinality for sharing this beer with me. Bottle into tulips.

A: Amber gold hue. Small cream hued head. Soapy lace left behind.

S: Mild citrus sour. Belgian yeast and spices. Light wet oak and what I assume is hibiscus flowers.

T: Strange wet grass and malt flavor. Spices and a good amount of oak. Tartness is there but not really sour. Very weird flavor profile.

M: Medium body with mild carbonation.

O: Well this wasn't horrible but it isn't good either. NB has some amazing sours and some amazing failures. This one falls into the latter category.

Serving type: bottle

04-29-2011 02:27:26 | More by beerwolf77
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craytonic

District of Columbia

2.98/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: clear amber pour, smallish head with very little lacing

Smell: Floral and biscuits with golden fruits like apple, pineapple and pears, no funk or sour. A bit like hard cider, probably where I get the apples and pears.

Taste? This is a wild ale? I get a ton of banana and also strawberries, floral elements, and rhubarb. A bit sweet and vineous.

Mouthfeel: Light, moderate carbonation, does seem a bit stickly

Drinkability: Wasn't crazy about this one, moved onto something I thought I might enjoy better.

Serving type: bottle

01-11-2011 00:44:45 | More by craytonic
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Tilley4

Tennessee

3/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The aromas of yeast and slightly tart lemon roll of of this and bring to mind a Saison more than a Wild Ale... I don't get any sourness here at all really... Slightly yeasty with touches of banana and clove... A bit of a chore to drink actually as I was hoping for some good lacto bitterness and brett funk and got none of the above...

Serving type: bottle

05-05-2011 21:10:15 | More by Tilley4
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david18

New York

3/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I wanted to like this beer more than I did when I saw it available at the Amsterdam Ale House on Manhattan's Upper West Side. Two great breweries, a great style, but something about it fell a little short.

Appearance was a light to medium brown with a good amount of carbonation and haze that was there throughout.

Aroma was spicy but somewhat on the weak side and not nearly as complex as I had hoped.

Flavor was a little sour but, again, not as much as I had hoped and a little hot on the alcohol side.

I will give this beer another try if I see it again and modify my review if I change my mind but at this point I can't really recommend.

Serving type: on-tap

06-01-2011 19:44:39 | More by david18
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nickhiller

Texas

3.03/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: cloudy and coppery with brief bubbly head

S: fresh indoor house paint, a little sourness on the top and a deep malty background

T: it's like a watered down sour, like it was mixed with a Pacifico or a Negra Modelo, lacking the flavor and depth of a true Belgian. I challenge anyone to take a Pacifico and squeeze a lime wedge into it and explain to me what the difference is, beyond the packaging and marketing

M: light and lager-y

O: why can't these breweries stick to what they're good at? To call this a Belgian anything is an insult to the tradition. Neither a sour nor a Belgian witte--nor even an American Wild--this beer is without a home.

Serving type: bottle

04-13-2011 00:32:16 | More by nickhiller
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Bajasith

California

3.05/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured weathered copper huge with very small tan head that disappeared rather quickly...
Funky smell of aged grapes and flowers smothered in lemon peel.
Taste of tart and semi sweet, a decent shot of herbal, lemony hops show themselves as well, the funk lays underneath but blends well with the carbonation...
Very smoothe and almost a dry feel along with tart/sweetness at the end...
A very nice change of pace as it goes down easy...

Serving type: bottle

02-25-2011 05:50:48 | More by Bajasith
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TMoney2591

Illinois

3.05/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a snifter at The Firkin.

I've heard things about this one, so was pretty jazzed to get to try it at the Firk' last night. It pours a mostly clear peach juice topped by a finger of off-ecru foam. The nose comprises apricot, light Brett, green apple, light caramel, lime, and light toffee. The taste holds notes of white grapes, spinach, cedar, cranberry, and some exceedingly light caramel cowering in the back. My companion and I agreed that a fair way to sum up the taste would be bad (read: stale and kinda poor-tasting) white wine. The body is a stolid medium, with a very light moderate carbonation and a gloopily oily feel. Overall, I was decidedly unimpressed with this brew: very lacking in the sour department, not entirely pleasant to have sit in the mouth, and a mildly harsh aftertaste.

Serving type: on-tap

03-28-2011 01:22:07 | More by TMoney2591
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harrymel

Washington

3.05/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Alright, let's see what two years did here...

Pours a bubbly clear copper with a vigorous initial tow fingers of thick, meringue style foam that falls to a solid quilt of the same. Smells pretty simple: some peppercorn, light malts, some hints of brett (sweet, milky and funky) with just a slight floral note. Nice fruity flavor up front lends some lemon and pineapple juice with woody malt and a hint of tartness in the finish. Medium on light syrup with liberal, but quick dissipating carb and an off dry finish. Tasty beer, but nothing special.

Serving type: bottle

12-26-2012 08:25:49 | More by harrymel
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ferrari29

Illinois

3.13/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured from bottle into stemmed Tulip glass

A - Strong amber/red color to the body of this beer; half finger beige foam formed during pour; not much lacing that didn't stick to the sides of the glass for very long; less than average amount of carbonation

S - Deep grassy smells; spices do come up like coriander and lemon; malty; complex blend of ingredients, with the hibiscus and endive to make a flowery scent of a quality beer

T - Hibiscus and endive come up at the front and follow all the way through to the end; still feels a bit messy with too much complexity of ingredients; lemon zest; aftertaste is a bit much of hibiscus and endive; dry and very sour

M - creamy feel; bubbly and effervescent on tongue; flavors really don't pick up until the back of the month and disappear very quickly; aftertaste is strong, probably from the sour-tart feel

T - The beer has a very funky taste to it; I expected it to be a bit better, not much bite and kind of a mess; this beer might be from a bad batch or could be skunked; I'm glad I tried it but I wouldn't have another one

Serving type: bottle

12-25-2010 20:58:14 | More by ferrari29
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emmasdad

Colorado

3.15/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

After trying the Boulevard Saison-Brett at a tasting the night before, I needed to find more brett to satiate my palate. Stopping by Mondo Vino in North Denver, I chose this one. Sadly, this one really didn't do much. Not much funk or tartness here. Nice golden amber color with a wispy white head. Aromas of candi sugar, light hops and just a whiff of tartness. Light bodied, with flavors of candi sugar, flowers, herbs and tea.

Serving type: bottle

04-07-2011 04:15:21 | More by emmasdad
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corby112

Pennsylvania

3.15/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bomber sampled next to the Allagash version.

Darker golden orange with tangerine orange hues and a one finger frothy white head that slowly settles. Sporadic spots of lace left behind.

Less funky than the Allagash but much more floral smelling.  Flowers more prominent with lots of citrus fruit notes.

Less funky, dry and not really sour or vinegary.  Much stronger floral and citrus presence with hints of pineapple and orange peel. Just kind of bland really and inferior to the other version.

Serving type: bottle

06-21-2011 05:47:08 | More by corby112
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elNopalero

Texas

3.18/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This is one of the Lips of Faith series that I’ve yet to see in bottles around these parts. One of the perks of traveling for beer! Had no idea it was a collaboration brew until I put the review up.

It pours a light amber color with thin lacing. There’s a light oaky aroma, coming from time on wood? Not much else going on. There’s a mild tartness on the flavor but it drops off quickly. This was more midrange than I had hoped. Good, but nothing spectacular as nothing really stood out. Even minutes after finishing my pour I really had no lasting impression other than the oakiness.

Serving type: on-tap

01-24-2012 19:53:28 | More by elNopalero
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optophobia

Massachusetts

3.2/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

On tap at The Dray.
A - bright Amber
S - definitely some floral notes there with a hint of apricot, and maybe a bit of Brett.
T - hibiscus and a slight tangy apricot flavor. Was hoping for a bit more sourness like the other beers in this series , but only has very mellow tartness.
M - good carbonation with a strange aftertaste I can't quite put my finger on.
D - for this much alcohol content it is more drinkable than you would expect but I am not going to order another glass.
Overall a bit of a disappointment, bur worthy of a try.

Serving type: on-tap

12-31-2010 01:51:40 | More by optophobia
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Lips Of Faith - Vrienden (Allagash Collaboration) from New Belgium Brewing
83 out of 100 based on 270 ratings.