Troubadour Obscura - Brouwerij De Musketiers
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2.05/5 rDev -47.2%
This is a stout?
Pours a cloudy dark brown. Large tan head. Smells... bad. Chocolate gone bad, rotten fruit ... oxidized coffee? Taste is, again, bad. Seemed metallic/oxidized, a rancid cafe au lait flavor ... just really unpleasant. Mouthfeel too thin for a stout.
I've had several Belgian stouts now, and I have strongly disappointed by each one. Clearly, not my style.
11-10-2008 07:54:29 | More by Overlord
2.1/5 rDev -45.9%
Appearance was none too impressive as well as indicative of things to come. Body was a dirty dark brown shade with a billowing off-white head. The smell was an unpleasant combination of green apples, candi sugar, and Belgian yeast along with musty and plastic characters. Flavor was even more off-putting that the aroma. A mixture of apple juice and cheap day-old coffee was what it most reminded me of. While very fruity, it was at the same time bitter and ashy. The mouthfeel was on par with the rest of this beer…..just poor. Thin and way over-carbonated for an overall prickly feel. Terrible.
Wow. Double checking to make sure I have the right beer here. This was supposedly purchased at Four Firkins and I doubt improper conditions are to blame for this violation of my senses. Not a good experience for me. In fact, worst beer of 2011.
06-12-2011 03:39:33 | More by GeezLynn
2.38/5 rDev -38.7%
Not a stout by any stretch of the imagination. Dark murky brown. Nose of fruit, malts, and sugar. Tasted like one of, or a combination of a) a Belgian dubbel. b) an aged and oxidized American Barleywine. c) a limp weizenbock. So not impressed. I did not finish it, and had the bartender take it back. It wasn't bad, but I am judging it according to its professed style. If a friend had home-brewed this as a Belgian dubbel, then I would have been impressed.
11-15-2007 06:25:25 | More by dedrinker
2.42/5 rDev -37.6%
Best by date of August 2008, Sampled February 2007
Labled a stout, but really pours more like a dark brown ale, or really a Porter. This beer is topped by a frothy, initially two-finger thick, amber tinged tan colored head. The beer sits a deep, dark brown color in my glass and shows ruby highlights when held up to the lamp. The aroma is a mix of concentrated fruit notes like raisin and fig, as well as a sort of cheesy note, and some definite notes of Madeira and sherry. The lasts too really become noticeable as you dig around in the aroma. There is a nice spiciness to the aroma as well, with notes of clove leading the way, but also notes of ginger, a touch of anise, and even some fenugreek. There is definitely something cheesy going on here though.
Up front the beer tastes of raisins and prunes, as it moves back off the tongue a lightly tart note becomes noticeable. In the long finish a note similar to port, and perhaps even a touch of sherry is noticeable. Very little roast character is noticeable, which is not entirely unexpected in this Belgian brewed beer.
The beer just does not do it for me, it tastes a bit too much like fermented prune juice to really be all that palatable. It never reaches horrible, and I could easily drink this if politeness demanded it. Fortunately it does not, so I will not.
02-23-2007 01:14:38 | More by Gueuzedude
2.5/5 rDev -35.6%
11.2 oz bottle split and poured into a Bruery tulip.
8.2% ABV, Serving temp. 42° to 50°F, 10/02/13 on the cap.
Thanks to Beerwolf77 for sharing?
A - Clear dark brown, almost black with a light tan head that quickly rose to three fingers. Good retention and thick collars of lace coat the glass.
S - Dark roasted malts add notes of dirt and dusty cocoa with a bittersweet chocolate hint. Fully metallic, the nose is pretty distracting. A swirl brings out more Belgian yeast notes of earth and dust. Not appealing in the least.
T - Roasted malt has a dry cocoa and chocolate flavor at first that's quickly washed away by a heavy metallic flavor. Light Belgian yeast hides in the background.
M - Metallic! Dusty, dry with a medium body and slightly acrid bitter finish.
O - I wouldn't want to have this one again. It's far too metallic in nature. Nuances of Belgian yeast are lost to the disgusting and off-putting metallic mouthfeel and flavor. Drain-pour.
04-29-2011 12:21:28 | More by BeerFMAndy
2.63/5 rDev -32.2%
From a 330 ml bottle, on to the beer:
Creamy burnt brown/orange in color, the head on top is large and shows very good retention and some rings of lacing. I was expecting something of a black color. Anyways, the aroma is hard to figure out. It's medicinal, grape, dark chocolate, turkey jerky...something just doesn't bring it all together.
It tastes like a poor mix of rauchbier and Belgian dark ale. The individual notes are nice, but the mix is not. There's some jerky, dates, a slight sweetness, spicy, minerals...kind of enjoyable, but messy. The smooth feel of the liquid and its medium-hevay mouthfeel bring hope, as does a dark chocolate aftertaste. Still, that's not enough to rescue this beer. Não mais!
07-29-2010 20:09:02 | More by DoubleJ
2.68/5 rDev -30.9%
Bottle split and poured into to tulips.
A: Dark cinnamon brown, two fingers of light khaki head. Sticky lace left behind.
S: Dark fruits, light coffee, chocolate and a strange off putting metallic aroma that I can't figure out.
T: Full on iron mineral flavor. Once past the well water I get chocolate, coffee and good amount of bitterness. This is hard to drink.
M: Medium to light body. Modest carbonation.
O: Not sure if it's a bad bottle but this was not good.
04-01-2011 01:53:21 | More by beerwolf77
2.73/5 rDev -29.6%
Paid $3.99 for a bottle. Bottle was 6 mo. past "best by" date. Dark tar or molasses in the glass. Nice tan head falls fast. Smell is alcohol and spice. Taste is the most interesting. Dark candied fruits and alcohol, a bit of yeast, dates, and an unpleasant bite of something medicinal. Mouthfeel packs a punch with sharp carbonation.
Probably too old a bottle, but there are too many beers out there to try this again. No thanks.
12-05-2008 23:27:24 | More by benmiliron
2.88/5 rDev -25.8%
Presentation: 12oz. bottle into a snifter. "23/04/11" is printed on the top of the bottle cap. ABV on bottle is listed @ 8.2% (as opposed to the 8.5% currently listed here). Label image has also changed significantly; It now has a crest with a lute on it, and no sign of the bard.
A- Very dark brown. ~1 1/2 fingers of tan head, which fades slowly to a thin cap.
S- Quite sweet and malty, with hints of dark fruit/raisins. As head dies, a musty cardboard odor begins to surface.
T- First thing that stands out is a healthy dose of wet cardboard/oxidation. Moderately sweet. Hints of dark fruitiness are present, but obscured by the off flavor. Not truly terrible, but hard to get past the carboard.
M- Moderate carbonation, medium-full, and fairly creamy, thought the "wet cardboard" seems to give it a bit of an overly dry feel.
D- Mediocre. Taste was a bit sub-par, but everything else was more or less OK.
Future outlook: I feel fairly confident that I got an "off" bottle, and I might give this another shot if it strikes my fancy.
01-04-2010 03:57:07 | More by DoctorDog
2.89/5 rDev -25.5%
Pours a murky dark brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Tiny dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is slightly sour with roasted malt, cocoa, acidic, and dark fruit aromas. Taste is much the same with slightly sour cocoa and dark fruit flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a below average beer that is definitely suffering from a mild infection, but is still fairly drinkable as it is.
04-03-2014 04:22:19 | More by UCLABrewN84
3/5 rDev -22.7%
Poured into an Ommegang glass. The bottle is different from the one on the site, and more to my liking. Best by date on the bottlecap of 23/05/10
a- cloudy dark brown an a light tan head that dissipates quickly leaving a thin bubbly film. pretty pleasant to look at, actually. The head after calming down has a really interesting appearance involving lots of large and small circles making a pattern. That's the best way I can describe it but I haven't seen this phenomenon before.
s- smells of belgian yeast fruity sweetness and tartness. Lots of mildy tart and sweet fruits like raisins, white grapes, apples and pears. Not so bad.
t- very bready with subtle sour/sweet fruits right upfront with a little bit of brown sugar. There are very, VERY subtle hints of roasted chocolate and coffee, but not enough to round this out. The weird thing is there is no discernable flavor in the middle. It feels like the taste enters the mouth and seems promising, then suddenly vanishes like a ghost. The finish is a strong definite belgian yeast tartness. The long-term aftertaste is an unpleasant yeasty sour feeling. None of the flavors--though strong--seem to have any sort of fullness to them, and overall it seems very unbalanced and/or lacking. This doesn't taste like a stout in any way, shape or form, either.
m- a medium to medium-heavy body that clashes and contrasts with the weird ghostly vanishing taste. Would love this feel in other beers, not so much here.
d- like I said, the flavors are strong but don't present themselves well at all. I got tired of the taste and heavy body of this beer, so I couldn't see myself having another or buying this ever again.
12-31-2008 03:52:49 | More by HappyBivouac
3.08/5 rDev -20.6%
A: Pours a cloudy, murky, dark brown color like tootsie rolls, slight reddish hue as the light hits it; two finger-width head, medium lacing. This is a pretty ugly beer.
S: Very strong malt smell with hints of toffee and a little tiny bit of dark fruits; some earthy notes with a little yeasty characteristic; overall though the malt pretty much overpowers much of the other aromas.
T: Sweet chalky malt up front; subtle (and boy do i mean SUBTLE) but very nice flavors of chocolate and roasted coffee round out the back end, with a nice roasty bitterness that lingers on the back of the tongue. Again, the malt overpowers much of the other flavors as they try to break through. The coffee and chocolate notes are very tasty, but so light that they barely register on the tongue after it's been assaulted by the initial malt bomb.
M: Medium-light body; very smooth with slight carbonation; dry finish that allows the flavors to open up along the middle of the palate -- this helps bring forth the chocolate and coffee notes near the end, but it's just not enough to push through the malt. Also, this has absolutely NO boozy hint at all. For 8.2% it covers up the alcohol exceptionally well.
O: This was a very underwhelming brew. It had some interesting characteristics, but overall it was just too dry and lightly flavored, and the yeasty malt is so overpowering that it covers up the delicious chocolate and coffee notes that reside just below the surface. It has the potential for greatness, but gets muddled down by an unbalanced flavor. For $5 a bottle (33cl), I don't think I'll ever be getting this again.
07-26-2011 04:24:30 | More by Jules11788
3.15/5 rDev -18.8%
A-Very dark brown with a big tan head
S-Hard/Mineral water....musty....a sour notes...
T-Begins sweet....some milk chocolate...roasted malts....finishes slightly tart...
M-Medium bodied...creamy texture.
D-Unique effort here....not sure if this is a stout or a Belgian Strong Ale...tastes like a blend...worth trying for the sake of trying something a little different. One is enough for me though...
09-01-2007 05:23:06 | More by ZAP
3.18/5 rDev -18%
11.2oz bottle -- best by 12/04/12 -- served into a tulip glass
Pours a dark chestnut color that is mostly too dark to see through. The beer obscuras light from shining through (see what I did there?). If you hold the beer underneath direct light, you can see some red in the body at the very bottom of the glass. In that sliver of red you can make out a very active column of carbonation jutting up to the top of the body. That lively bubblestream manifests itself in the form of 2.5 fingers of light khaki head. It takes about five minutes for it to dissipate down to even one finger, so you could say that Troubadour Obscura's head retention is excellent. Lacing is like a wall of meringue.
Strange aroma, and one that defies easy classification. It smells in turns like a Dubbel, a BSDA, and an export stout. Essentially, the beer smells like lots of raisins, backed up by a dusting of cocoa powder and a caramel/toffee component. Some smells the cocoa shines brightest, others the raisins, etc. Overall it's a bit like a box of Raisin Bran cereal that accidentally had some Cocoa Puffs mixed in, even though that's impossible because Raisin Bran is a Kellog's cereal and Cocoa Puffs is a General Mills cereal. I'm trying to pull more aromas than that. There's a small amount of roast that comes across like a grilled hamburger. That's about it.
Obscura is such a strange beer. It does not immediately taste like a stout, despite its labeling. It has the somewhat vinous fig & raisin dark fruits component that is indicative of Belgian Strong Dark Ales. So it makes instant sense to your palate why its style here on BeerAdvocate is BSDA. But it also has the chalky sort of hot chocolate mix meets roasted barley flavor of many foreign export stouts. It's interesting and not unpleasant by any means, but the combo is missing some depth to take to the next level.
The carbonation will not die on this beer. It remains very prickly on the tongue even after this bottle has been open for close to an hour. The level of activity doesn't benefit this beer's stout side or its BSDA side. Drinkability is likewise pretty average for the style. It isn't offensive or poor by any means. Just decently benchline drinkable.
Obscura is an interesting experiment that doesn't result in a great beer. That's OK. It was worth a shot. I don't see myself buying this again, but I can also see some people really digging this beer's unique flavor profile.
02-20-2011 02:39:56 | More by Reaper16
3.23/5 rDev -16.8%
Presentation: Poured from an 11.2 oz bottle into a Troubador logo-ed chalice.
Appearance: Pours with small amount of light tan head. This settles and leaves some lacing behind. The beer itself is dark brown, almost black.
Smell: Sweet malt with a hint of sourness in the finish.
Taste: Sour upfront with sweet malt and notes of cherry. Like a mild stout and a dubbel or other Belgian mixed.
Mouthfeel: Average carbonation, great body.
Drinkability: Not really a fan. My first and last. It tasted like a dry Irish stout and a Belgian mix, some roastiness but with the sweet caramel backbone of a Belgian.
12-30-2011 23:03:45 | More by beveritt
Troubadour Obscura from Brouwerij De Musketiers
87 out of 100 based on 352 ratings.