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Troubadour Obscura - Brouwerij De Musketiers

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BA SCORE
87
very good

373 Ratings
THE BROS
85
very good

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Ratings: 373
Reviews: 221
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 12.37%
Wants: 13
Gots: 12 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: TastyTaste on 09-21-2003)
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Photo of socon67
4.05/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip, on tap at The Good Life - Massapequa NY
A - Pours dark brown with a reddish hue. Some lacing in the glass, and a quickly disspating brown foam.

S - Complex scents of fudge, brown sugar, caramel, and roasty malt. Very nice!

T - Taste is subdued with flavors of chocolate, toffee, and caramel. This is a sweet beer that has a stout like taste.

M - Tastes heavy, and is a sipper. Hits pretty hard, but is not harsh on the palate or tongue.

O - Very glad to have tried this one. Would easily recommend this to a stout drinker. Probably the most layered belgian dark I can recall.

Photo of DaveBlack
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Brown, burnt orange color with a huge 4 finger head with long retention and a ton of lacing.

S: Smells of roasted malts, caramel, brunt sugar, and yeast. Really a good smell, not much like a stout, but good.

T: Hit of the yeast, peppery with allspice and caramel. The taste of alcohol covers everything, adding a nice warming sensation. Taste is somewhere between a brown ale and a Belgian-style.

M: Lots of carbonation, thick and sticky. Matches the flavor well.

O: A good beer. Not great, but definitely worth drinking. I don't really know what is considered a "mild stout" but this didn't seem anything like a stout to me. It was drinkable, though, and the flavor complemented rather than hid the alcohol. Interesting beer.

Photo of johnnnniee
3.43/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A New addition to the ever growing list of beer available in NH.
Pours a deep brown with garnet highlights when held to light, huge khaki head shows great staying power and sticks itself all over the glass. The label calls this a mild stout, its listed here as a Belgian Strong Dark, I'm not sure how to rate this but here goes. Smells of light chocolate, brown sugar, dark fruit and spicy Belgian phenols. Taste is rich with brown sugar and light chocolate with the Belgian spice cutting through the sweetness. Mild dark fruits are muted behind the other overpowering flavors. A hint of alcohol shows itself near the end of each sip but is soon overwhelmed. Finishes with a bit of lingering chocolate and a hint of ash. Crispy spirited level of carbonation, medium to full body, bubbly sweet sticky mouthfeel. I think there is more Belgian strong here than Stout. The roasted flavors are barely evident and the sugary sweetness lends itself more to that style. Overall this is a decent brew, but probably not something I would seek out again.

Photo of GeezLynn
2.1/5  rDev -45.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2.5

Appearance was none too impressive as well as indicative of things to come. Body was a dirty dark brown shade with a billowing off-white head. The smell was an unpleasant combination of green apples, candi sugar, and Belgian yeast along with musty and plastic characters. Flavor was even more off-putting that the aroma. A mixture of apple juice and cheap day-old coffee was what it most reminded me of. While very fruity, it was at the same time bitter and ashy. The mouthfeel was on par with the rest of this beer…..just poor. Thin and way over-carbonated for an overall prickly feel. Terrible.

Wow. Double checking to make sure I have the right beer here. This was supposedly purchased at Four Firkins and I doubt improper conditions are to blame for this violation of my senses. Not a good experience for me. In fact, worst beer of 2011.

Photo of phishgator
3.73/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Golden Draak tulip glass. Nice dark amber/brownish color with a slightly tan head. The carbonation is high. The lacing is there, but not a good sticky mess with some other belgian darks. Notes of candi sugar, roasted figs, whole wheat toast are in the aroma. The flavor is roasted vanilla beans with a bit of pepperiness. The taste is close to Golden Draak, but with with a roasted compound. The body is a little thin for the style. I will have to revisit this one again and get another take.

Photo of Daniellobo
4.03/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nice sugary and roasted take on a Belgium stout.

Presentation: 33 cl brown capped bottle. Old fashion label trying to have an aged look with cream and burgundy colors, dated typography with the name of the brew and Troubador emblem. Small back narrative with a brief description and serving suggestion. Notes best by date on the bottlecap (16/03/13), and 8.2% Alc. by Vol. Served in a tulip glass.

A - Clear deep amber to brown pour with an ecru frothy and towering head. Tremendous retention, almost hindering serving the whole brew, rich traces of lacing, and good surface memory.

S - Sweet nose, sugary, fresh, very fruity, lactic dash over more sugar and a dark fruity advance, dry prunes, figs...

T - Hmmm, here one can see where the play with the stout notion comes up. Plenty of roasted malt notes, sweet... coated in that sugary and fruity sense. Coffee notes, a touch of chocolate even, linger around the Belgian yeast in the palate.

M - Medium/full body, moderate carbonation riding rather nicely with a smooth flow that leads to a nice bitter/sweet finish.

O - It has a nice flow, the hefty sugar towards the end may tire the palate a bit but other than that it is quite stimulating as a BSDA-Stout hybrid.

Notes: Not necessarily what is expected lately within the bracket of Belgium Stouts, this is a different twist, leaning more on the roasted and sweet notes. A slight disconnect seems present between nose and flavor but overall this is well worth the try and rather tasty if one does not mind the predominantly sugary experience woven with the other characteristics.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
2.5/5  rDev -35.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 oz bottle split and poured into a Bruery tulip.
8.2% ABV, Serving temp. 42° to 50°F, 10/02/13 on the cap.

Thanks to Beerwolf77 for sharing?

A - Clear dark brown, almost black with a light tan head that quickly rose to three fingers. Good retention and thick collars of lace coat the glass.

S - Dark roasted malts add notes of dirt and dusty cocoa with a bittersweet chocolate hint. Fully metallic, the nose is pretty distracting. A swirl brings out more Belgian yeast notes of earth and dust. Not appealing in the least.

T - Roasted malt has a dry cocoa and chocolate flavor at first that's quickly washed away by a heavy metallic flavor. Light Belgian yeast hides in the background.

M - Metallic! Dusty, dry with a medium body and slightly acrid bitter finish.

O - I wouldn't want to have this one again. It's far too metallic in nature. Nuances of Belgian yeast are lost to the disgusting and off-putting metallic mouthfeel and flavor. Drain-pour.

Photo of HattedClassic
3.98/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours to a nice two fingered head. The head comes out tan and creamy that lasts for a while. I recommended letting the bottle sit a little bit just in case it ends up being shaken up a little bit. The beer itself is a clear brownish red.

Smell: Spicy and fruity with a hint of roasted malt and an undertone of dark chocolate

Taste: Spicy and fruity with dark chocolate overshadowing the malts but not covering it. The stout has a slightly bitter aftertaste that doesn't last too long.

Mouthfeel: Light carbonation and a very creamy feel to it.

Overall: I think this is a pretty good beer every and a while and a nice change of pace from the stouts that I usually drink. I would probably recommend this as more of a fall beer than anything else.

Photo of SisuPride
4.45/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer poured nice and dark with a few centimeter head which drizzled to a few millimeters before I finished it. As the label described it was chocolate malt goodness but also had a milky sweetness to it. A little bitter at times but overall I'd drink this beer a plenty - one of the better stouts I've had in the last few months. Still not sure where the "mild stout" came into play but I'll take 'em mild if they are like this one.

Photo of beerwolf77
2.68/5  rDev -30.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Bottle split and poured into to tulips.

A: Dark cinnamon brown, two fingers of light khaki head. Sticky lace left behind.

S: Dark fruits, light coffee, chocolate and a strange off putting metallic aroma that I can't figure out.

T: Full on iron mineral flavor. Once past the well water I get chocolate, coffee and good amount of bitterness. This is hard to drink.

M: Medium to light body. Modest carbonation.

O: Not sure if it's a bad bottle but this was not good.

Photo of Viggo
3.65/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle, not sure where I got it but its been in the fridge for quite a while.

Pours a murky and opaque dark reddish brown, pretty muddy looking, loose and pillowy light tan head forms and settles down to a thin ring around the glass, some lace spots stick.

Smell is interesting, sweet and malty, candi and brown sugars, caramel, lightly biscuity malt, raisin and dates, lightly oxidized, a touch of spice, not bad.

Taste is similar, very sweet up front, fruity and candi sugar like, caramel, very faint chocolate, a bit of biscuit and fruit through the middle, cherry and raisins, a bit of alcohol spice in the finish.

Mouthfeel is light bodied with medium carbonation, age has made this super smooth. Not too bad.

Photo of WVbeergeek
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clouded brown with a fine even speckled lacing forms down the sides of my Chimay chalice. Hints of cherry and Belgian spice, go well with mild dark chocolate creaminess. Flavor fulled with tart fruit cherries/raisins, and hints of creamy chocolate. Mouthfeel medium bodied creaminess, fine effervescent definitely a mild Belgian stout compared to bigger brasher American counterparts. Drinkability overall is very good, not the best or worst Belgian around one of thos beers that I'm glad I could buy a reasonable priced single around 4 bucks for a year old bottle. Good deal with some age on it aleady from 6/10/10.

Photo of JMforman
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A housemate brought this home the other night.

A- Hazy dark brown. Good tan head and good retention
S- Toffee, cherry, caramel, coconut. Very nice
T- Chocolate, toffee, espresso, cherry
M- Smooth and a bit peppery. Medium to full
D- Strange for the style, but definitely tasty.

Photo of HiAIPA
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

At the Lion's Pride, nad this in a Troubadour tulip. Pours a jet black with nice three finger head that dissapates slowly. I agree with others this is difficult to classify. Aromas of dry hopping, cocoa, biscuit and a slight funk/sour component. Tastes like a combination of a double brown, quad, and dry hopped stout. Not too boozy at 8.2%, not too sweet, short dry finish makes this very drinkable. Good.

Photo of Reaper16
3.18/5  rDev -18%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle -- best by 12/04/12 -- served into a tulip glass

Pours a dark chestnut color that is mostly too dark to see through. The beer obscuras light from shining through (see what I did there?). If you hold the beer underneath direct light, you can see some red in the body at the very bottom of the glass. In that sliver of red you can make out a very active column of carbonation jutting up to the top of the body. That lively bubblestream manifests itself in the form of 2.5 fingers of light khaki head. It takes about five minutes for it to dissipate down to even one finger, so you could say that Troubadour Obscura's head retention is excellent. Lacing is like a wall of meringue.

Strange aroma, and one that defies easy classification. It smells in turns like a Dubbel, a BSDA, and an export stout. Essentially, the beer smells like lots of raisins, backed up by a dusting of cocoa powder and a caramel/toffee component. Some smells the cocoa shines brightest, others the raisins, etc. Overall it's a bit like a box of Raisin Bran cereal that accidentally had some Cocoa Puffs mixed in, even though that's impossible because Raisin Bran is a Kellog's cereal and Cocoa Puffs is a General Mills cereal. I'm trying to pull more aromas than that. There's a small amount of roast that comes across like a grilled hamburger. That's about it.

Obscura is such a strange beer. It does not immediately taste like a stout, despite its labeling. It has the somewhat vinous fig & raisin dark fruits component that is indicative of Belgian Strong Dark Ales. So it makes instant sense to your palate why its style here on BeerAdvocate is BSDA. But it also has the chalky sort of hot chocolate mix meets roasted barley flavor of many foreign export stouts. It's interesting and not unpleasant by any means, but the combo is missing some depth to take to the next level.

The carbonation will not die on this beer. It remains very prickly on the tongue even after this bottle has been open for close to an hour. The level of activity doesn't benefit this beer's stout side or its BSDA side. Drinkability is likewise pretty average for the style. It isn't offensive or poor by any means. Just decently benchline drinkable.

Obscura is an interesting experiment that doesn't result in a great beer. That's OK. It was worth a shot. I don't see myself buying this again, but I can also see some people really digging this beer's unique flavor profile.

Photo of deltatauhobbit
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Over at the Pride.

Pours a reddish/brown color into a Troubadour tulip with a huge fluffy tan head, fades at a slow rate, even after fading a bit there's a good sized fluffy cap that remains on top for almost the entire time, large amounts of lacing on the glass.

Smell is primarily roasted caramel malt, light hop balance, hints of chocolate and dark fruit.

Taste is quite interesting and I agree with the server that it's like an amber ale was blended with a stout, it has medium carbonation but on the high side for a straight stout but this is a more unique representation, roasted caramel malt with a slight chocolate aftertaste, strength is well hidden and is highly drinkable.

Photo of Chincino
4.13/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I had this beer on-tap yesterday.

The beer poured a dark brown/mahogany color. The aroma was rich of maltiness, coffee, with a bit of chocolate.

Medium carbonation, full of flavor.

Great beer, but could not drink more than one in a session.

Cheers!

Photo of brystmar
3.53/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: brown with red hues with 1.5 fingers of creamy, manila-colored head. Good retention, sticky lace.

S: roasted malts, dark fruit, spices, booze, chocolate? Pretty interesting.

T: this is a Belgian stout indeed. Combines the qualities of a dubbel or quad with roasty stout malts. Stout-y qualities dominate the first half, spicy Trappist flavors bring it home at the end. Finishes dry with plenty of alcoholic warmth.

M/D: full-bodied and highly carbonated -- a rare combination. Works better than I'd expect on paper, but I still prefer creaminess. Average drinking here.

Photo of vfgccp
3.48/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Beautiful deep, matte brown with mahogany highlights when backlit. Nice cream-tan head that pours a few fingers high without much effort.

S - A light affair of toffee, creamer and booze.

T - Burnt edges on a nice roast coffee. Some toffee and a touch of caramel as the profile sweetens. There's a breadyness that may or may not come through depending on how you interpret the toffee backend. Glimmer of woody hops right before the finish.

M - Light body with a moderately carbonated mouthfeel. Dry finish.

D - Moderate. Nice taste but the burnt flavors wear you down over time.

Photo of zeff80
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Dark burgundy color in the snifter with a two-finger, light brown head of long lasting foam. It slowly receded to leave sticky rings of intricate lacing.

S - Very Belgian - dried fruit, currants, plum, raisin. A rich malty aroma, too.

T - Overall, the taste is similar to the aroma although all the flavors seem weaker. There is a mild spiciness, too.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium to full bodied ale that is pretty easy drinking despite its high ABV.

D - Great look and aroma, but the taste couldn't match it. It was not bad, just a little weak/muted for the style.

Photo of JLeege
3.4/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance- Pours a deep deep amber color, with a creamy two finger head. Decent retention with a little lace.

Smell- Dark fruits, belgian yeast, slight notes of chocolate.

Taste- Very raisony throughout. A touch of chocolate and bitter coffee. Some slight belgian yeast notes as well. Despite the subtle nauances, dried raison completely dominates the palate.

Mouthfeel- A tad thick with medium carbonation.

Overall- Mild Stout? This is really just your typical belgian dark ale. Not bad, but the dominating raison flavor become a little to much for me, finished the bottle, no problem, but I dont see myself revisiting this one.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.43/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to drabmuh for picking up this bottle in DC. Served in a wine glass.

Pours dark mahogany with a thick light tan head and some nice streaky lacing. Great retention. The nose is slightly roasty with some mild Belgian character to it. There are some dark fruits in there as well. The taste is roasty with a bit of oxidation and cardboard. Really dry and almost harsh finish. Medium body. Pretty good though it does not really stand out anywhere, and there are a few issues with the flavor.

Photo of jsprain1
4.25/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Pours a deep hazy brown that matches the glass bottle, topped by long lasting, lace leaving, manila folder colored clumpy head.
S- Smells of deep chocolate and dark fruit.
T- Flavor is strangely, but enjoyably tart. Chocolate, some dark tart flavor.
M- Light body for style, creamy carbonation.
D- A very tasty beer that I think may even be a shade better than their blonde.

Photo of Brent
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The bottle refers to the beer as "mild stout" and the listing here is "Belgian Strong Dark Ale." A rather unusual beer that, quite frankly, I don't know what style category really fits. Pours a surprisingly murky black with tan highlights and a uniformly dispersed yeast sediment. Predominant flavor is sweet caramel malt - almost barleywine-ish in flavor, without as much sweetness or any hops bittering. Some Belgian candy sugar and yeast flavors. Not a stout as I would consider it, but enjoyable.

Photo of bluejacket74
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle with 21/04/12 printed on the bottle cap. Served in a snifter, the beer pours a dark reddish/brown color with about an inch light tan head. Head retention and lacing are both good. Aroma is dark fruit, toffee, molasses, chocolate and roasted malt, it's a very sweet and malty smelling brew. I think the taste is mostly like the aroma, but it's a bit stronger and has the addition of some sweet spice. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit creamy and slick with high carbonation (too much carbonation for me). Drinkability is decent, it's certainly not hard to drink at all. Not a bad brew at all, I'd buy this again.

Troubadour Obscura from Brouwerij De Musketiers
87 out of 100 based on 373 ratings.