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Troubadour Obscura - Brouwerij De Musketiers

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BA SCORE
87
very good

352 Ratings
THE BROS
84
good

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Ratings: 352
Reviews: 218
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 12.37%
Wants: 11
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Musketiers visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: TastyTaste on 09-21-2003)
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Thorpe429

Illinois

3.43/5  rDev -11.6%

Thanks to drabmuh for picking up this bottle in DC. Served in a wine glass.

Pours dark mahogany with a thick light tan head and some nice streaky lacing. Great retention. The nose is slightly roasty with some mild Belgian character to it. There are some dark fruits in there as well. The taste is roasty with a bit of oxidation and cardboard. Really dry and almost harsh finish. Medium body. Pretty good though it does not really stand out anywhere, and there are a few issues with the flavor.

12-29-2010 03:10:13 | More by Thorpe429
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jsprain1

Minnesota

4.25/5  rDev +9.5%

A- Pours a deep hazy brown that matches the glass bottle, topped by long lasting, lace leaving, manila folder colored clumpy head.
S- Smells of deep chocolate and dark fruit.
T- Flavor is strangely, but enjoyably tart. Chocolate, some dark tart flavor.
M- Light body for style, creamy carbonation.
D- A very tasty beer that I think may even be a shade better than their blonde.

12-15-2010 21:33:45 | More by jsprain1
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Brent

Kentucky

4/5  rDev +3.1%

The bottle refers to the beer as "mild stout" and the listing here is "Belgian Strong Dark Ale." A rather unusual beer that, quite frankly, I don't know what style category really fits. Pours a surprisingly murky black with tan highlights and a uniformly dispersed yeast sediment. Predominant flavor is sweet caramel malt - almost barleywine-ish in flavor, without as much sweetness or any hops bittering. Some Belgian candy sugar and yeast flavors. Not a stout as I would consider it, but enjoyable.

11-16-2010 14:59:48 | More by Brent
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bluejacket74

Ohio

3.7/5  rDev -4.6%

11.2 ounce bottle with 21/04/12 printed on the bottle cap. Served in a snifter, the beer pours a dark reddish/brown color with about an inch light tan head. Head retention and lacing are both good. Aroma is dark fruit, toffee, molasses, chocolate and roasted malt, it's a very sweet and malty smelling brew. I think the taste is mostly like the aroma, but it's a bit stronger and has the addition of some sweet spice. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit creamy and slick with high carbonation (too much carbonation for me). Drinkability is decent, it's certainly not hard to drink at all. Not a bad brew at all, I'd buy this again.

11-11-2010 00:06:53 | More by bluejacket74
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bobsy

Ontario (Canada)

4.35/5  rDev +12.1%

Troubadour Obscura is a lovely looking beer and the epitome of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale (or in this case, a Belgian Stout). It pours a deep reddish brown with mahogany highlights and a large lumpy tan head that laced beautifully and stayed the course.

I've had a few beers in my time, but I'm still somewhat of a newbie when it comes to Belgian stouts. They seem to have some nice spicing to compliment roasted and chocolate malts, and a significant dark fruit presence. In some respects it seems to have a number of traits in common with the baltic porter, but with an obvious spicy character. That's exactly what we see here in both the nose and on the palate. All of the above flavours combine with a delicately balanced mix of sweet and bitter and a prominent dash of molasses. Excellent, complex stuff! The only potential strike against this beer is I wish that it had a heavier mouthfeel, but as it is its still a pleasant weight, with its medium heft and creamy carbonation.

Excellently crafted beer that deserves a little bit more recognition than it gets - I'm curious to try their other offerings based on this.

09-07-2010 19:01:24 | More by bobsy
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DoubleJ

California

2.63/5  rDev -32.2%

From a 330 ml bottle, on to the beer:

Creamy burnt brown/orange in color, the head on top is large and shows very good retention and some rings of lacing. I was expecting something of a black color. Anyways, the aroma is hard to figure out. It's medicinal, grape, dark chocolate, turkey jerky...something just doesn't bring it all together.

It tastes like a poor mix of rauchbier and Belgian dark ale. The individual notes are nice, but the mix is not. There's some jerky, dates, a slight sweetness, spicy, minerals...kind of enjoyable, but messy. The smooth feel of the liquid and its medium-hevay mouthfeel bring hope, as does a dark chocolate aftertaste. Still, that's not enough to rescue this beer. Não mais!

07-29-2010 20:09:02 | More by DoubleJ
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mgbickel

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev +3.1%

Thanks to OneDropSoup for bringing a few bottles of this to our recent tasting. Not sure if this is a stout or not, but anyway...

Poured about 3oz into a Perfect Pint glass. The short pour yielded a yellowish/tan head that hung around and stuck to the glass nicely. The body is dark brown with ruby edges.

The nose has lots of molasses, dark fruits and a caramel/coffee/chocolate mixture.

As the nose indicates, the taste has a fermented fruit sweetness followed by a bitter, coffee finish. There is a spiciness in the background also...almost a peppery cinnamon.

Medium bodied, creamy yet a little oily; mild carbonation.

Pretty interesting...not sure what category this falls into, but it is drinkable nonetheless.

07-27-2010 19:31:51 | More by mgbickel
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sketchpunx

New York

3.83/5  rDev -1.3%

Poured a dark brown with a massive four finger tan head into my corsendonk tulip. The smell is odd. I can't quite place it and I'm not sure if I like it, but it reminds me of something very specific...
The Taste of this is really interesting. Very sweet up front with lots of chocolate and roasted malts. Very creamy mouthfeel. Lots of Chocolate and coffee notes come through in this. a bit of alcohol comes through at the end. I like this beer more with each sip. A very different stout to say the least. Interesting and complex, but perhaps just a tad too sweet for my taste.

07-25-2010 04:34:31 | More by sketchpunx
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BeerAdvocate

Massachusetts

3.73/5  rDev -3.9%

Beer review from BA Mag Oct 2007.

Though the label says "Mild Stout," this appears to be nothing of the sort, and confusing a lot of users on BeerAdvocate.com. Let's see what all the hoopla is about.

Deep and dark, color is a near opaque ruby red. Creamy tan head drops to a healthy lacing and sticks. Smells of sweet, overripe fruits with a deep caramel beneath. Super smooth and creamy on the palate--velvety texture. More dried fruits soaked in alcohol, with a semi-tart cherry flavor and leafy bitterness. Gummy center. Sweet with toffee, notes of chocolate, some roast coffee, hint of fig meat, and a tangy molasses. Dry chicory, burnt and smoky edges. Black pepper, under a slightly warming alcohol. Finish is dry, with lingering malty notes and some yeasty characters that eventually clean up nicely.

Definitely not a Stout in the traditional sense, but the Belgians are great at putting their own unique twist on things. It's a bit sweeter than expected, but complex and easy on the palate. A good pick, and worth checking out for a completely different kind of Stout.

07-07-2010 00:43:07 | More by BeerAdvocate
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eric5bellies

Australia

4.03/5  rDev +3.9%

Drank from a bar in Oudelem, Belgium

A - Pours a nice mahogany colour with an off white head that reduces to a film.

S - Quite sweet with molassis and spicey dark fruit

T - Very malty with molassis and dark fruit.

M - Medium body and carbonation

D - Great example of style

07-06-2010 23:29:29 | More by eric5bellies
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metter98

New York

3.93/5  rDev +1.3%

A: The beer poured dark amber-brown in color with a thick and creamy tan head. The head has excellent retention properties and a moderate level of carbonation is visible.
S: There are aromas of roasted malts in the nose, along with some hints of chocolate.
T: Like the smell, the taste is rather malty and has hints of cherries and chocolate. There is some bitterness from the hops in the finish.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and is very smooth.
D: The beer was very easy to drink because the alcohol was well hidden.

07-04-2010 02:19:09 | More by metter98
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AgentZero

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

A - Dark reddish brown color with a fine, tan color head.

S - Roasted malts and a lot of sweet, dark fruits. Nice belgian yeast with a bit of cocoa in there.

T - Little bit stronger than what was on the label, but in reflection, I don't know what a "mild stout" is. A lot of very roasty malts and a strong dark fruit taste that has some nice sweetness to it as well.

M - Creamy with a nice amount of carbonation. Full bodied.

D - A sipper, not a bad drinker, but definately not easy.

06-26-2010 06:15:32 | More by AgentZero
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david131

California

3.7/5  rDev -4.6%

A- A clear, brown liquid, with a creamy bone white head that is thick enough to dimple the surface of the liquid and leaves lacing down the sides of the glass.

S- Belgian milk chocolate, alcohol, fruit, earthy hops... Pretty unique and hard to pinpoint.

T- Earth, chocolate, and fruits. There is something a little different about this, and it is not really drawing me in for more. I can appreciate what they are going for though.

M- Creamy carbonation, with a bit of a hoppy bite at the end. The sweetness is nice.

D- An interesting beer. The alcohol is hidden fairly well and in combination with the creamy carbonation aspect, this drinks rather nicely.

06-15-2010 02:09:01 | More by david131
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Radome

California

4.5/5  rDev +16%

Served from bottle into a goblet.

A - Beer was crystal clear and a dark, dark brown-red color. Head is tan-colored and made up of tiny, persistent bubbles.

S - Serious malt aroma, with some nuttiness, mocha and alcohol. It smells like a Russian Imperial Stout, which I was not expecting from the description of "Mild Stout".

T - Wow--this is an imperial stout! This has the roasty, chocolatey notes, bourbon-like alcohol and malt, malt, malt. There is a strong hop bitterness, but not to the level of a Russian imperial stout. I don't really detect any yeast notes that I would expect from a Belgian dark strong ale. Obscura really has all the characteristics of an imperial stout, but it is slightly less hoppy, alcoholic and flavorful than a typical example.

M - Medium to heavy body. Lots of alcohol burn. Carbonation is noticeable, but not extreme. Very well done.

D - I had no idea what to expect from a Belgian "Mild Stout", but this beer is excellent. It is a kinder, gentler imperial stout that is just delicious.

05-23-2010 04:33:48 | More by Radome
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RuudJH

Netherlands

4.03/5  rDev +3.9%

Beer from a relatively new brewery (since 2000).
Dark red-brown ale with a big head, nice lacing.

Smell: roasted malts, sweet fruits like cherries and plumbs.
Taste is of roasted malts. Some wild yeasty notes, and dark dried fruits.
Aftertaste isn't too sweet though.It's actually more dry and bitter than expected.
Medium body.

Unbalanced, complex; a very promising brew: it's bold and rough; the alcohol in it is easy.

I'm very willing to be more patient with this brewery, to see if they develope this brew even more in the upcoming years.

05-20-2010 15:10:01 | More by RuudJH
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ThaCreep

Belgium

4.35/5  rDev +12.1%

Esters and alcohol sweet berries are present in the nose but also a powerful touch of coffee, caramel and mocha extremely pleasant. The taste is spicy but spicy but it is also sweet and caramelized, this a very good way. A finish a little bitter but with a persistent spicy on the tongue, plus a coffee liqueur reminiscent of an Italian espresso. Lots of flavors in the nose and mouth.

05-18-2010 19:06:58 | More by ThaCreep
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biglite351

Pennsylvania

3.28/5  rDev -15.5%

A - tall tight tan head. Brew is somewhat cloudy with red around the edges.

S - it has that scent that is unique in bocks. Maybe a bit of a mix between a stout and a bock.

T - malty with noticeable chocolate. A little sweet like a bock

M - coats with a bit of tingle on both the front and back of the tongue.

D - one or two is okay, but I do not think that more than that would work.

05-16-2010 02:25:40 | More by biglite351
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WhiteOak

Connecticut

3.93/5  rDev +1.3%

A- A volcanic gusher upon opening. Hazy brown, not quite opaque. Big, dark tan head with lace. The final pour was heavily loaded with sediment particles.

S- Chocolate covered cherries, caramel, wet grains, vanilla, wet earth, dried dark fruit.

T- Bitter, dark roasted malt. A touch of sweetness puts this just off-dry.

M, D- Creamy & soft edged, medium-heavy weight, and quite drinkable with the ABV unapparent. The CO2 was making for well-integrated drinking for such a gusher.

05-13-2010 00:20:53 | More by WhiteOak
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Dodo2step

Pennsylvania

3.58/5  rDev -7.7%

P- Al's of Hampden

A- A nice foamy pour that yeilds about a 3 finger head. Somewhat bubble lacy but not overly. a nice dark brown color. The head takes about 10 minutes to dissipate.

S- a very sweet and fruity smell. It almost smells like a caramel apple dipped in stout. Alcohol rounds out the aroma.

T- a carbonated stout that has strong flavors of coffee and caramel. Chocolate and sweet dark candied fruit.

M- bubbly and creamy. A very gaseous beer as well.

D- at 8.2 this is a nice beer to slowly drink. Overall, not a bad style and it is really tasty. I could def go for another.

T-

05-07-2010 22:25:19 | More by Dodo2step
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BMoney575

Texas

3.63/5  rDev -6.4%

Sampled on 5-7-10
Best before 10-10-11

Pours a deep brown color, as cloudy as you could possibly get. The tan head is immense, and leaves thick, chunky lacing. Retention is excellent.

Smell is very good, sweet, mildly Belgian, with lots of crisp fruit aromas. A very pleasant fermented quality gives way to a boozy kick that adds another dimension.

Taste is different, strong malt right up front, with big bitterness. The finish is deeply smoky, with a hint of clove. Not particularly complex, and the smokiness takes over after a few sips.

Mouthfeel is very fizzy and full, which does not suit the smooth and smoky flavors.

Drinkability is decent, but the flavors are strong and not helped by the mouthfeel.

Overall, different, and worth a try.

05-07-2010 20:59:22 | More by BMoney575
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chaz01

Ohio

3.95/5  rDev +1.8%

Had this at Chappy's Taproom in Dayton in conjunction with a Belgian Beer event they've been having all month. Served in a special 6 ounce mini-wine glass.

A: Brownish color with a nice thick brown head.

S: Dark fruits, plums and cherries along with sweet brown sugar aroma.

T: More dark fruits in the taste, including figs and dates, but not as sweet as the aroma indicates. Picking up a subtle orange peel flavor as well, but no roasted coffee or malt flavors that I'd expect from a stout.

M: Medium bodied, with some cocoa and orange in the finish.

D: This is very good and I'd certainly seek it out again. I'm a bit puzzled by the stout label, as it's not normally what I'd expect from a stout. Lots of flavor, would go well with a hearty stew, or by itself on pleasant outdoor evening on the patio.

04-18-2010 21:39:57 | More by chaz01
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sdjakep

California

4.2/5  rDev +8.2%

A - dark brown with red hue mild carbonation head 1" or so tan in color good retention NICE LACE

s - malty with a hint of coffee fruit and cocoa

t - slight sour dark fruit taste with cocoa and a nice alcohol bite at the end

m - very smooth with a perfect amount of carbonation

d - very enjoyable i loved it and would recommend it to any none dark beer drinker as a nice starting point

03-10-2010 04:11:38 | More by sdjakep
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tempest

Pennsylvania

3.78/5  rDev -2.6%

Picked up a single from Abe's Cold Beer for $4 and poured it into a tumbler. It opens with a big raisin aroma. The flavor follows the dried fruit character with bready cocoa notes that remind me of an English brown ale. Oddly enough, this beer seems a lot like an imperial English brown ale, if such a thing existed. The body is relatively drinkable and there's a mix of dark barley flavors with complimentary fruit. Overall, a well-made and interesting Beglian.

03-10-2010 02:41:43 | More by tempest
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spartanfan

Pennsylvania

4.5/5  rDev +16%

Had on draft at Capone's

A: Pours a translucent brown color with a massive rocky head on top. As the head fades it leaves a lot of sticky lacing behind.

S: Aromas of chocolate sweet malts and distinct Belgian yeast scents.

T: Very nice flavors of coco, sweet malts and Belgian yeast. Milder flavors than I'm used to from a stout this strong, but it is very complex and intriguing.

M: This beer is incredibly smooth and easy to drink. It has a somewhat lower than average level of carbonation, but it works very well with the dark flavors of this brew.

D: This beer is very drinkable. It is unbelievably smooth and I've never tasted a beer like it. It keeps me coming back drink after drink.

02-26-2010 13:54:30 | More by spartanfan
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danielharper

Michigan

4.35/5  rDev +12.1%

A: Pours dark brown, slightly amber, with a thick brown foamy head. The head leaves significant lacing on the inside of the snifter. Beautiful.

S: Smells strongly of Belgian yeast, slightly tart, with a bit of a roasty backbone underneath. Hints of sourness, perhaps some lactobacillus?

T: Flavor is very complex. Strong roasted malt notes up front, much like an ordinary British stout, but with a significant Belgian yeast presence. Also some sourness, again probably from lactobacillus, and with a dry malted aftertaste. Sourness becomes more prominent as the beer warms.

M: This beer has a moderate thickness, with a low carbonation and a mild drying astringency on the back of the tongue. Very slight chewiness.

D: Overall this beer seems like an almost perfect mix of a great Belgian Strong Dark Ale and a nice British stout. Could be a bit more tart, could have a bit more complexity, but overall, very nice.

02-22-2010 03:25:02 | More by danielharper
Troubadour Obscura from Brouwerij De Musketiers
87 out of 100 based on 352 ratings.