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Troubadour Obscura - Brouwerij De Musketiers

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BA SCORE
87
very good

358 Ratings
THE BROS
84
good

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Ratings: 358
Reviews: 219
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 12.37%
Wants: 13
Gots: 9 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Musketiers visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: TastyTaste on 09-21-2003)
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Photo of deltatauhobbit
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Over at the Pride.

Pours a reddish/brown color into a Troubadour tulip with a huge fluffy tan head, fades at a slow rate, even after fading a bit there's a good sized fluffy cap that remains on top for almost the entire time, large amounts of lacing on the glass.

Smell is primarily roasted caramel malt, light hop balance, hints of chocolate and dark fruit.

Taste is quite interesting and I agree with the server that it's like an amber ale was blended with a stout, it has medium carbonation but on the high side for a straight stout but this is a more unique representation, roasted caramel malt with a slight chocolate aftertaste, strength is well hidden and is highly drinkable.

deltatauhobbit, Feb 17, 2011
Photo of Chincino
4.13/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I had this beer on-tap yesterday.

The beer poured a dark brown/mahogany color. The aroma was rich of maltiness, coffee, with a bit of chocolate.

Medium carbonation, full of flavor.

Great beer, but could not drink more than one in a session.

Cheers!

Chincino, Feb 07, 2011
Photo of brystmar
3.53/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: brown with red hues with 1.5 fingers of creamy, manila-colored head. Good retention, sticky lace.

S: roasted malts, dark fruit, spices, booze, chocolate? Pretty interesting.

T: this is a Belgian stout indeed. Combines the qualities of a dubbel or quad with roasty stout malts. Stout-y qualities dominate the first half, spicy Trappist flavors bring it home at the end. Finishes dry with plenty of alcoholic warmth.

M/D: full-bodied and highly carbonated -- a rare combination. Works better than I'd expect on paper, but I still prefer creaminess. Average drinking here.

brystmar, Jan 19, 2011
Photo of vfgccp
3.48/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - Beautiful deep, matte brown with mahogany highlights when backlit. Nice cream-tan head that pours a few fingers high without much effort.

S - A light affair of toffee, creamer and booze.

T - Burnt edges on a nice roast coffee. Some toffee and a touch of caramel as the profile sweetens. There's a breadyness that may or may not come through depending on how you interpret the toffee backend. Glimmer of woody hops right before the finish.

M - Light body with a moderately carbonated mouthfeel. Dry finish.

D - Moderate. Nice taste but the burnt flavors wear you down over time.

vfgccp, Jan 18, 2011
Photo of zeff80
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Dark burgundy color in the snifter with a two-finger, light brown head of long lasting foam. It slowly receded to leave sticky rings of intricate lacing.

S - Very Belgian - dried fruit, currants, plum, raisin. A rich malty aroma, too.

T - Overall, the taste is similar to the aroma although all the flavors seem weaker. There is a mild spiciness, too.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium to full bodied ale that is pretty easy drinking despite its high ABV.

D - Great look and aroma, but the taste couldn't match it. It was not bad, just a little weak/muted for the style.

zeff80, Jan 09, 2011
Photo of JLeege
3.4/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance- Pours a deep deep amber color, with a creamy two finger head. Decent retention with a little lace.

Smell- Dark fruits, belgian yeast, slight notes of chocolate.

Taste- Very raisony throughout. A touch of chocolate and bitter coffee. Some slight belgian yeast notes as well. Despite the subtle nauances, dried raison completely dominates the palate.

Mouthfeel- A tad thick with medium carbonation.

Overall- Mild Stout? This is really just your typical belgian dark ale. Not bad, but the dominating raison flavor become a little to much for me, finished the bottle, no problem, but I dont see myself revisiting this one.

JLeege, Jan 03, 2011
Photo of Thorpe429
3.43/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to drabmuh for picking up this bottle in DC. Served in a wine glass.

Pours dark mahogany with a thick light tan head and some nice streaky lacing. Great retention. The nose is slightly roasty with some mild Belgian character to it. There are some dark fruits in there as well. The taste is roasty with a bit of oxidation and cardboard. Really dry and almost harsh finish. Medium body. Pretty good though it does not really stand out anywhere, and there are a few issues with the flavor.

Thorpe429, Dec 29, 2010
Photo of jsprain1
4.25/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Pours a deep hazy brown that matches the glass bottle, topped by long lasting, lace leaving, manila folder colored clumpy head.
S- Smells of deep chocolate and dark fruit.
T- Flavor is strangely, but enjoyably tart. Chocolate, some dark tart flavor.
M- Light body for style, creamy carbonation.
D- A very tasty beer that I think may even be a shade better than their blonde.

jsprain1, Dec 15, 2010
Photo of Brent
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The bottle refers to the beer as "mild stout" and the listing here is "Belgian Strong Dark Ale." A rather unusual beer that, quite frankly, I don't know what style category really fits. Pours a surprisingly murky black with tan highlights and a uniformly dispersed yeast sediment. Predominant flavor is sweet caramel malt - almost barleywine-ish in flavor, without as much sweetness or any hops bittering. Some Belgian candy sugar and yeast flavors. Not a stout as I would consider it, but enjoyable.

Brent, Nov 16, 2010
Photo of bluejacket74
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2 ounce bottle with 21/04/12 printed on the bottle cap. Served in a snifter, the beer pours a dark reddish/brown color with about an inch light tan head. Head retention and lacing are both good. Aroma is dark fruit, toffee, molasses, chocolate and roasted malt, it's a very sweet and malty smelling brew. I think the taste is mostly like the aroma, but it's a bit stronger and has the addition of some sweet spice. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit creamy and slick with high carbonation (too much carbonation for me). Drinkability is decent, it's certainly not hard to drink at all. Not a bad brew at all, I'd buy this again.

bluejacket74, Nov 11, 2010
Photo of bobsy
4.35/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Troubadour Obscura is a lovely looking beer and the epitome of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale (or in this case, a Belgian Stout). It pours a deep reddish brown with mahogany highlights and a large lumpy tan head that laced beautifully and stayed the course.

I've had a few beers in my time, but I'm still somewhat of a newbie when it comes to Belgian stouts. They seem to have some nice spicing to compliment roasted and chocolate malts, and a significant dark fruit presence. In some respects it seems to have a number of traits in common with the baltic porter, but with an obvious spicy character. That's exactly what we see here in both the nose and on the palate. All of the above flavours combine with a delicately balanced mix of sweet and bitter and a prominent dash of molasses. Excellent, complex stuff! The only potential strike against this beer is I wish that it had a heavier mouthfeel, but as it is its still a pleasant weight, with its medium heft and creamy carbonation.

Excellently crafted beer that deserves a little bit more recognition than it gets - I'm curious to try their other offerings based on this.

bobsy, Sep 07, 2010
Photo of DoubleJ
2.63/5  rDev -32.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

From a 330 ml bottle, on to the beer:

Creamy burnt brown/orange in color, the head on top is large and shows very good retention and some rings of lacing. I was expecting something of a black color. Anyways, the aroma is hard to figure out. It's medicinal, grape, dark chocolate, turkey jerky...something just doesn't bring it all together.

It tastes like a poor mix of rauchbier and Belgian dark ale. The individual notes are nice, but the mix is not. There's some jerky, dates, a slight sweetness, spicy, minerals...kind of enjoyable, but messy. The smooth feel of the liquid and its medium-hevay mouthfeel bring hope, as does a dark chocolate aftertaste. Still, that's not enough to rescue this beer. Não mais!

DoubleJ, Jul 29, 2010
Photo of mgbickel
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to OneDropSoup for bringing a few bottles of this to our recent tasting. Not sure if this is a stout or not, but anyway...

Poured about 3oz into a Perfect Pint glass. The short pour yielded a yellowish/tan head that hung around and stuck to the glass nicely. The body is dark brown with ruby edges.

The nose has lots of molasses, dark fruits and a caramel/coffee/chocolate mixture.

As the nose indicates, the taste has a fermented fruit sweetness followed by a bitter, coffee finish. There is a spiciness in the background also...almost a peppery cinnamon.

Medium bodied, creamy yet a little oily; mild carbonation.

Pretty interesting...not sure what category this falls into, but it is drinkable nonetheless.

mgbickel, Jul 27, 2010
Photo of sketchpunx
3.83/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured a dark brown with a massive four finger tan head into my corsendonk tulip. The smell is odd. I can't quite place it and I'm not sure if I like it, but it reminds me of something very specific...
The Taste of this is really interesting. Very sweet up front with lots of chocolate and roasted malts. Very creamy mouthfeel. Lots of Chocolate and coffee notes come through in this. a bit of alcohol comes through at the end. I like this beer more with each sip. A very different stout to say the least. Interesting and complex, but perhaps just a tad too sweet for my taste.

sketchpunx, Jul 25, 2010
Photo of BeerAdvocate
3.73/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Beer review from BA Mag Oct 2007.

Though the label says "Mild Stout," this appears to be nothing of the sort, and confusing a lot of users on BeerAdvocate.com. Let's see what all the hoopla is about.

Deep and dark, color is a near opaque ruby red. Creamy tan head drops to a healthy lacing and sticks. Smells of sweet, overripe fruits with a deep caramel beneath. Super smooth and creamy on the palate--velvety texture. More dried fruits soaked in alcohol, with a semi-tart cherry flavor and leafy bitterness. Gummy center. Sweet with toffee, notes of chocolate, some roast coffee, hint of fig meat, and a tangy molasses. Dry chicory, burnt and smoky edges. Black pepper, under a slightly warming alcohol. Finish is dry, with lingering malty notes and some yeasty characters that eventually clean up nicely.

Definitely not a Stout in the traditional sense, but the Belgians are great at putting their own unique twist on things. It's a bit sweeter than expected, but complex and easy on the palate. A good pick, and worth checking out for a completely different kind of Stout.

BeerAdvocate, Jul 07, 2010
Photo of eric5bellies
4.03/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Drank from a bar in Oudelem, Belgium

A - Pours a nice mahogany colour with an off white head that reduces to a film.

S - Quite sweet with molassis and spicey dark fruit

T - Very malty with molassis and dark fruit.

M - Medium body and carbonation

D - Great example of style

eric5bellies, Jul 07, 2010
Photo of metter98
3.93/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer poured dark amber-brown in color with a thick and creamy tan head. The head has excellent retention properties and a moderate level of carbonation is visible.
S: There are aromas of roasted malts in the nose, along with some hints of chocolate.
T: Like the smell, the taste is rather malty and has hints of cherries and chocolate. There is some bitterness from the hops in the finish.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and is very smooth.
D: The beer was very easy to drink because the alcohol was well hidden.

metter98, Jul 04, 2010
Photo of AgentZero
3.75/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Dark reddish brown color with a fine, tan color head.

S - Roasted malts and a lot of sweet, dark fruits. Nice belgian yeast with a bit of cocoa in there.

T - Little bit stronger than what was on the label, but in reflection, I don't know what a "mild stout" is. A lot of very roasty malts and a strong dark fruit taste that has some nice sweetness to it as well.

M - Creamy with a nice amount of carbonation. Full bodied.

D - A sipper, not a bad drinker, but definately not easy.

AgentZero, Jun 26, 2010
Photo of david131
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- A clear, brown liquid, with a creamy bone white head that is thick enough to dimple the surface of the liquid and leaves lacing down the sides of the glass.

S- Belgian milk chocolate, alcohol, fruit, earthy hops... Pretty unique and hard to pinpoint.

T- Earth, chocolate, and fruits. There is something a little different about this, and it is not really drawing me in for more. I can appreciate what they are going for though.

M- Creamy carbonation, with a bit of a hoppy bite at the end. The sweetness is nice.

D- An interesting beer. The alcohol is hidden fairly well and in combination with the creamy carbonation aspect, this drinks rather nicely.

david131, Jun 15, 2010
Photo of Radome
4.5/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served from bottle into a goblet.

A - Beer was crystal clear and a dark, dark brown-red color. Head is tan-colored and made up of tiny, persistent bubbles.

S - Serious malt aroma, with some nuttiness, mocha and alcohol. It smells like a Russian Imperial Stout, which I was not expecting from the description of "Mild Stout".

T - Wow--this is an imperial stout! This has the roasty, chocolatey notes, bourbon-like alcohol and malt, malt, malt. There is a strong hop bitterness, but not to the level of a Russian imperial stout. I don't really detect any yeast notes that I would expect from a Belgian dark strong ale. Obscura really has all the characteristics of an imperial stout, but it is slightly less hoppy, alcoholic and flavorful than a typical example.

M - Medium to heavy body. Lots of alcohol burn. Carbonation is noticeable, but not extreme. Very well done.

D - I had no idea what to expect from a Belgian "Mild Stout", but this beer is excellent. It is a kinder, gentler imperial stout that is just delicious.

Radome, May 23, 2010
Photo of RuudJH
4.03/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Beer from a relatively new brewery (since 2000).
Dark red-brown ale with a big head, nice lacing.

Smell: roasted malts, sweet fruits like cherries and plumbs.
Taste is of roasted malts. Some wild yeasty notes, and dark dried fruits.
Aftertaste isn't too sweet though.It's actually more dry and bitter than expected.
Medium body.

Unbalanced, complex; a very promising brew: it's bold and rough; the alcohol in it is easy.

I'm very willing to be more patient with this brewery, to see if they develope this brew even more in the upcoming years.

RuudJH, May 20, 2010
Photo of ThaCreep
4.35/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Esters and alcohol sweet berries are present in the nose but also a powerful touch of coffee, caramel and mocha extremely pleasant. The taste is spicy but spicy but it is also sweet and caramelized, this a very good way. A finish a little bitter but with a persistent spicy on the tongue, plus a coffee liqueur reminiscent of an Italian espresso. Lots of flavors in the nose and mouth.

ThaCreep, May 18, 2010
Photo of biglite351
3.28/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - tall tight tan head. Brew is somewhat cloudy with red around the edges.

S - it has that scent that is unique in bocks. Maybe a bit of a mix between a stout and a bock.

T - malty with noticeable chocolate. A little sweet like a bock

M - coats with a bit of tingle on both the front and back of the tongue.

D - one or two is okay, but I do not think that more than that would work.

biglite351, May 16, 2010
Photo of WhiteOak
3.93/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A- A volcanic gusher upon opening. Hazy brown, not quite opaque. Big, dark tan head with lace. The final pour was heavily loaded with sediment particles.

S- Chocolate covered cherries, caramel, wet grains, vanilla, wet earth, dried dark fruit.

T- Bitter, dark roasted malt. A touch of sweetness puts this just off-dry.

M, D- Creamy & soft edged, medium-heavy weight, and quite drinkable with the ABV unapparent. The CO2 was making for well-integrated drinking for such a gusher.

WhiteOak, May 13, 2010
Photo of Dodo2step
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

P- Al's of Hampden

A- A nice foamy pour that yeilds about a 3 finger head. Somewhat bubble lacy but not overly. a nice dark brown color. The head takes about 10 minutes to dissipate.

S- a very sweet and fruity smell. It almost smells like a caramel apple dipped in stout. Alcohol rounds out the aroma.

T- a carbonated stout that has strong flavors of coffee and caramel. Chocolate and sweet dark candied fruit.

M- bubbly and creamy. A very gaseous beer as well.

D- at 8.2 this is a nice beer to slowly drink. Overall, not a bad style and it is really tasty. I could def go for another.

T-

Dodo2step, May 07, 2010
Troubadour Obscura from Brouwerij De Musketiers
87 out of 100 based on 358 ratings.