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Troubadour Obscura - Brouwerij De Musketiers

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87
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383 Ratings
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Ratings: 383
Reviews: 221
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 12.11%
Wants: 13
Gots: 14 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: TastyTaste on 09-21-2003

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Ratings: 383 | Reviews: 221
Photo of BMoney575
3.66/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Sampled on 5-7-10
Best before 10-10-11

Pours a deep brown color, as cloudy as you could possibly get. The tan head is immense, and leaves thick, chunky lacing. Retention is excellent.

Smell is very good, sweet, mildly Belgian, with lots of crisp fruit aromas. A very pleasant fermented quality gives way to a boozy kick that adds another dimension.

Taste is different, strong malt right up front, with big bitterness. The finish is deeply smoky, with a hint of clove. Not particularly complex, and the smokiness takes over after a few sips.

Mouthfeel is very fizzy and full, which does not suit the smooth and smoky flavors.

Drinkability is decent, but the flavors are strong and not helped by the mouthfeel.

Overall, different, and worth a try.

Photo of chaz01
3.95/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had this at Chappy's Taproom in Dayton in conjunction with a Belgian Beer event they've been having all month. Served in a special 6 ounce mini-wine glass.

A: Brownish color with a nice thick brown head.

S: Dark fruits, plums and cherries along with sweet brown sugar aroma.

T: More dark fruits in the taste, including figs and dates, but not as sweet as the aroma indicates. Picking up a subtle orange peel flavor as well, but no roasted coffee or malt flavors that I'd expect from a stout.

M: Medium bodied, with some cocoa and orange in the finish.

D: This is very good and I'd certainly seek it out again. I'm a bit puzzled by the stout label, as it's not normally what I'd expect from a stout. Lots of flavor, would go well with a hearty stew, or by itself on pleasant outdoor evening on the patio.

Photo of sdjakep
4.22/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - dark brown with red hue mild carbonation head 1" or so tan in color good retention NICE LACE

s - malty with a hint of coffee fruit and cocoa

t - slight sour dark fruit taste with cocoa and a nice alcohol bite at the end

m - very smooth with a perfect amount of carbonation

d - very enjoyable i loved it and would recommend it to any none dark beer drinker as a nice starting point

Photo of tempest
3.8/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a single from Abe's Cold Beer for $4 and poured it into a tumbler. It opens with a big raisin aroma. The flavor follows the dried fruit character with bready cocoa notes that remind me of an English brown ale. Oddly enough, this beer seems a lot like an imperial English brown ale, if such a thing existed. The body is relatively drinkable and there's a mix of dark barley flavors with complimentary fruit. Overall, a well-made and interesting Beglian.

Photo of spartanfan
4.48/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Had on draft at Capone's

A: Pours a translucent brown color with a massive rocky head on top. As the head fades it leaves a lot of sticky lacing behind.

S: Aromas of chocolate sweet malts and distinct Belgian yeast scents.

T: Very nice flavors of coco, sweet malts and Belgian yeast. Milder flavors than I'm used to from a stout this strong, but it is very complex and intriguing.

M: This beer is incredibly smooth and easy to drink. It has a somewhat lower than average level of carbonation, but it works very well with the dark flavors of this brew.

D: This beer is very drinkable. It is unbelievably smooth and I've never tasted a beer like it. It keeps me coming back drink after drink.

Photo of danielharper
4.33/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours dark brown, slightly amber, with a thick brown foamy head. The head leaves significant lacing on the inside of the snifter. Beautiful.

S: Smells strongly of Belgian yeast, slightly tart, with a bit of a roasty backbone underneath. Hints of sourness, perhaps some lactobacillus?

T: Flavor is very complex. Strong roasted malt notes up front, much like an ordinary British stout, but with a significant Belgian yeast presence. Also some sourness, again probably from lactobacillus, and with a dry malted aftertaste. Sourness becomes more prominent as the beer warms.

M: This beer has a moderate thickness, with a low carbonation and a mild drying astringency on the back of the tongue. Very slight chewiness.

D: Overall this beer seems like an almost perfect mix of a great Belgian Strong Dark Ale and a nice British stout. Could be a bit more tart, could have a bit more complexity, but overall, very nice.

Photo of kegger22
4.07/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Troubadour Obscura Mild Stout (BSDA) was a dark brown color with a modest beige head that rapidly reduced to a collar.

The aroma was very sweet cocoa and reminded me of an old ale.

The taste sweet molasses, cocoa and raisins. The warmer it got, the better it tasted.

The mouth feel was medium bodied, oily and moderately carbonated.

Drinkability was good for an 8.50 ABV, flavor was up there, but it was a bit pricey for a go to beer.

Photo of Gehrig
3.9/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Dark brown body with ruby trim, topped by a tan finger of foam that leaves moderate lacing, receding at a medium pace. Chocolate, anise, and more than a little tobacco confront the nose. It has been some time since I enjoyed a beer flavored with tobacco; interesting.

Sour flavor to start, but sweetens a bit as it warms, this grew on me the more I had it. At first, I honestly didn't enjoy it yet, after several minutes, dark chocolate and tart berry (cranberry?) emerge. There is also a distinct roasted coffee flavor in it as well; complex and trick, but good stuff.

Tart, bitter, but also somewhat creamy in texture, Obscura indeed lives up to its name. It's a highly unusual stout, one of the most unique I've ever had. It isn't one that's easy to belt back by any means, but it's overall quite good and challenging. Fine stuff.

Photo of DmanGTR
4.28/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Review from notes (10/15/09) at Belga Cafe in Washington DC.

A - Dark mahogany brown, towering 2.5" head with ample lace and excellent retention. Nice strands of lacing. 4.5

S - pilsner malt, cereal grains, with fruity esters of pears, white grapes, and a light roasted character. Could be more pronounced. 4.0

T - initial toffee with fig/dark fruity sweetness leads to a gentle blend of expresso and dark chocolate. Light tang of blackberries and alcohol in the finish. 4.5

M - very velvety smooth and rich. Good Belgian style carbonation. 4.5

D - very good, I would definitely drink a few. 4.0

Note - flavor and aroma is much more pronounced as it warms. Alcohol is still well blended into the beer.

Photo of sholland119
3.67/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Got this one from scottg in the Review This! BIF. Thanks!

A-A cloudy cedar brown with a fluffy tan head that has great retention.

S-Belgian yeast, raisins and caramel. A bit of oakiness and vanilla lurk in the background.

T-Roasty (where did that come from?) with muted dark fruit sweetness. Raisins and some booziness in the finish.

M-Medium bodied with moderate carbonation.

D-Nice if lacking in complexity for the style.

Hv

Photo of DoctorDog
2.91/5  rDev -25%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Presentation: 12oz. bottle into a snifter. "23/04/11" is printed on the top of the bottle cap. ABV on bottle is listed @ 8.2% (as opposed to the 8.5% currently listed here). Label image has also changed significantly; It now has a crest with a lute on it, and no sign of the bard.

A- Very dark brown. ~1 1/2 fingers of tan head, which fades slowly to a thin cap.

S- Quite sweet and malty, with hints of dark fruit/raisins. As head dies, a musty cardboard odor begins to surface.

T- First thing that stands out is a healthy dose of wet cardboard/oxidation. Moderately sweet. Hints of dark fruitiness are present, but obscured by the off flavor. Not truly terrible, but hard to get past the carboard.

M- Moderate carbonation, medium-full, and fairly creamy, thought the "wet cardboard" seems to give it a bit of an overly dry feel.

D- Mediocre. Taste was a bit sub-par, but everything else was more or less OK.

Future outlook: I feel fairly confident that I got an "off" bottle, and I might give this another shot if it strikes my fancy.

Photo of htomsirveaux
3.45/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

33 cL bottle tried 3 Dec 2009.

Poured in a ~6 oz wine glass. Head wants to form directly in the bottle, have to pour before it makes a mess. Medium tan head. Clear dark brown color with reddish highlights. Well carbonated. Aroma is quite sweet, syrupy, reminiscent of pumpkin, chocolate, sorghum. Starts fairly syrupy, like a moderately sweet molasses. Pumpernickel. Some leather and tobacco. Boozy, ethanol is warm in the finish and aftertaste. Sweet and syrupy throughout. Medium body. Like a strong sweet brown alemore than a stout.

Decent but quite a bit more syrupy sweet than I prefer.

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.35/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Troubadour Obscura poured ontap into a Troubadour tulip glass. A deep pour yields a dark brown liquid with a huge foamy head and nice lace work.

Aroma of chocolate, bready malts and suggestions of fruits. Inviting and appealing.

A melancholy collection of Chocolate, Oak, Vanilla. Bready malts are there in the flavor dept. as well. Cocoa is prominant and pairs well with the malt, slightly roasted around the edges. Hop bitterness is low, just a tad minerally. Great woody/oak notes in this beer, alcohol is played down but this beer does remind one of its strength from time to time. Port like flavors develop as the beer approaches room temperature. Excellent.

Mouthfeel is full bodied and silky smooth.

Drinks very solid for a beer of such strength. Not often do I come across a belgian stout but this mild stout was fantastic.

Photo of drabmuh
4.2/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On draft at a local beer bar. Beer is brown and clear and has very low carbonation. Head is thin and diffuse and made up of brown bubbles.

Smells like a brown ale with a slight amount of roast in the nose.

Beer tastes good, sweet and vanilla with a nice mild roast flavor at the end. Beer is silky smooth and has notes of caramel in the aroma and in the forward mouth, burnt sugar or roasted brown sugar. This beer tastes a lot darker than it is. Drinkability is high and mouthfeel is good.

Photo of Bung
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thirsty Monk in Asheville. Cloudy dark brown pour with a good sized light tan head. Taste was sweet, malt, raisin, molasses, brown sugar, but kept in check with the roast nut, bitter fruit and carbonation. There is a little caramel and chocolate then just slight coffee hints in the finish. Interesting beer, worth trying if you can.

Photo of scottg
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 pz bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Pours a dark brown with a one finger tan head with good retention and heavy patchy lacing. Lots of sweet malt aromas with cherry, raisin, and tobacco. Very complex tasting beer, alcohol, sour cherry, bitter lemon rind, roasted/smokey chocolate, grapes, and some wood. Medium carbonation, medium body smooth and easy drinking.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.62/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Does this brewery have a surplus of sugar they they have got to get rid of?

A dark brown beer shows some crimson hues and a bit purple at times. Good head formation shows lightly tanned foam and lingers for most of the session. Also some lace evident.

Heavy malts set the tone for a lot of sweetness that dominates the glass. Dark and dried fruits of blackberries, raisons, dates, figs, plumbs, grapes, and currants. Light spice and tartness helps to balance out the residual sugar blast. Alcohols late also thin the beer to make it more drinkable. However up front, the beer is heavy, doughy, and sticky sweet. Light toasty notes get swamped and give an almost Sweet Stout taste and texture. Full, rich, and silky at times this beer would be very nice if it were not for the syrupy flavor and feel.

Photo of LestatSabastian
4.15/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I really liked this beer.
The color was nice dark brown extremely nice when held near light.
love the smell it smelled of a malt and almost burnt chocolate.
Its taste was very creamy and bittersweet.
mouthfeel was good, but the last sip had some head and it was awsome. drinkability was excellent. I got a deal on this beer In Mt. Brook Alabama. I found the beer on top of the beer fridge near the back. they gave it to me for 10.79 I would love to know what the reg price of this beer is?

Photo of jdhilt
4.42/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a five finger dark cream head that fades slowly leaving some lace. Cloudy brown color. Medium carbonation and medium bodied. Sweet caramel nose. Flavor is sweet caramel and molasses. I like the brewer's idea of a light brown. Label has the ABV at 8.2%. $4.29 for a 330ml bottle from Beverage Warehouse Winooski, VT.

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.73/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap 8/7/08 at Doherty's East Ave Irish Pub in Pawtucket, RI, served in a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a medium brown color, with a large beige head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of caramel, fruit, Belgian yeast, some spice and a faint touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet with flavors of caramel, apples, citrus and spices. Then a hearty malt character and Belgian yeast breadiness follow. There's a mild hops presence that bring a little balance. Despite the name, I didn't find too many stout-like qualities. The after-taste is sweet.

M: Smooth and crisp, medium body, light-to-medium carbonation, finish is sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down easily, slightly filling, good kick, good representation of the Belgian Strong Dark style, this is a nice brown Belgian ale with some substance and strength making it worth drinking for a while.

Photo of TLove
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Small bottle at Granville Moore's in D.C.

Great, warm brown color and cloudiness not typical of stouts and porters. Creamy dirty tan head with minimal lacing. The smell is hoppy, alcohol-laden and slightly malty, but otherwise incredibly discreet. Dark sugars, heavy, mild toffee taste and roasted malt. Dark fruits such as prune and cherry. Soft on the mouth and full-bodied. Subtle tastes not dominated by any one flavor. Well-balanced and 8.5% ABV.

Great beer, my first "mild stout".

Photo of Newmerator
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours a deep brown w a creamy frothy head, couple fingers deep... pretty tasty smelling. cherry, choc, dark fruits, touch of oak. almost smokey.

taste is pretty satisfying imo. same as smell. choc, dark fruits and cherries.

drinkability and mouth feel are pretty good. icould have more than one, but if had the option of an Ol Rasputen, might go for that instead.

cheers to another.

Photo of MisterClean
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

At BJs Flanders beer tasting in Roseville.

A - Dark brown with a 3 fingered mocha head. Dissipated moderately slow and left little lacing.

S - Burnt toffee, spicy hops, and dark sugars.

T - Burnt toffee, smoke, light spicy hops, and faint flavors of belgian dark sugars.

M - Full bodied and hop dominated. Not necessarily hop dominated, but the additions of black patent and rich roasted malt brought the mouthfeel of the hops forward.

D - Not bad. Would recommend less saaz and patent in the brew. Drinks more like a belgian stout than a strong dark ale.

Photo of chicagobeerriot
4.09/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From bottle into tulip glass. Pours veiled dark caramel with a light, creamy head. Cherries and quince on the nose with some carmel and fig notes underneath. Mouthfeel is heavy at first but with some surprising carbonation, giving the beer an uncommon crispness at the finish. Toffee and honey flavors dominate but with some tartness coming in midway to balance out the sweetness. A bit of chickory at the finish with the slightest amount of alcohol bitterness. This review is based on a fresh bottle, but we've experienced added complexity in a three-year-old bottle at Oud Arsenal in Antwerp and are looking forward to seeing how this develops in the cellar.

Photo of mltobin
3.6/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750ml bottle bought at Cork and Keg in Southbury.

This beer looks black in color with a two finger brown head.
It smells like molasses, very rich. It tastes sweet, brown sugar, very rich just as mentioned in the smell. Mouthfeel is a tad bit tart in addition to everything else going on that I mentioned earlier in this review. Drinkability is average. All in all, this beer is worth your time at least on a couple occasions.

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Troubadour Obscura from Brouwerij De Musketiers
87 out of 100 based on 383 ratings.