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Troubadour Obscura - Brouwerij De Musketiers

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BA SCORE
87
very good

355 Ratings
THE BROS
84
good

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Ratings: 355
Reviews: 219
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 12.37%
Wants: 12
Gots: 9 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Musketiers visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  8.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: TastyTaste on 09-21-2003)
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Photo of MoreBeer215
4.65/5  rDev +19.8%

Appearance: Dark but not your typical stout dark. Looks like a flat cola.

Smell: Rich and robust with hints of toffee and chocolate.

Taste: Balanced with layers of malts, not unlike its aroma.

Feel: very little carbonation while still being very sippable.

Drinkability: quite drinkable. surprisingly sessionable if you can handle an 8.2% ABV beer.

I'm not quite sure how this stout is mild--certainly not in alcohol. Perhaps its low level of malt and complex belgian yeasts combine to make this a very quaffable stout.

Certainly a stout for lovers of Belgian brews that fear darker, malty beers (porters & stouts). I can see those who enjoy stouts sharing this beer with those who may not normally enjoy this style.

A unique beer worth trying, no matter your tastes.

MoreBeer215, Apr 07, 2009
Photo of smcolw
3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

Impressive head that leaves clumps of lace on the glass. The color is closer to a porter--deep brown where light can shine through. Appears cloudy.

This beer has a very rich smell of overcooked caramels and brandy.

Quite spritzy--lots of carbonation which is balanced by the oily thick body. The flavor profile has raisin, toffee and alcohol. Nice bitter finish that seems to be a pleasant blend of hop and black patent. As it says on the bottle, this is a mild stout, but it retains its Belgian heritage.

smcolw, Mar 29, 2009
Photo of bskrtz
3.95/5  rDev +1.8%

11.2 ounce bottle, served cold in large open challice

A) Pours a very dark, cloudy/murky brown leaning towards black. Light chocolate lacing that lasts through the round.

S) Burnt caramel, figs and raisons. Sweet Belgian yeasts

T) Burnt black dark chocolate, root beer. This tastes like traditional trappist dark ale, but with the added burnt aspect I suspect why its referred to as 'mild stout'.

M) Has the effervescence of dark belgian bottle conditioned ale. Could use a tad more carbonation -- just my .02

D) I enjoyed this beer. I enjoy the style and will add more to my collection

bskrtz, Mar 25, 2009
Photo of kmeves
3.33/5  rDev -14.2%

Pours a murky dark brown with a firm beige head. The aroma is medium sweet with chocolate and coffee as well as some earthy hops. The flavor is roasted and malty with coffee, chocolate caramel and raisins. More bitter toward the finish. I must admit, Belgian Stouts have been growing on me lately.

kmeves, Mar 23, 2009
Photo of avalon07
4.08/5  rDev +5.2%

A: Poured from a bottle to a ulip glass. Had a dark brown color and thick, cloudy consistency. There was a huge, creamy, long-lasting head and excellent lacing.

S: A strong malty smell, along with chocolate and spices.

T: This beer had a big malt flavor up front, mixed with chocolate and a mild coffee taste. Lots of spices (pepper especially) in the finish. Nicely complex.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

D: Overall, this is a drinkable beer. It's solid and well made.

avalon07, Mar 19, 2009
Photo of hosehead83
4.18/5  rDev +7.7%

Poured into a pint glass

Age of this beer is unknown

Pours a dark brown with a one inch head

Aroma-Smells almost like bread pudding with raisins-perplexing

Taste-It says "mild stout" on the label so I am somewhat taken aback with the initial taste.
It is amost winey, light bodied and fruity with a bit of lingering sourness. Clearly not a tradional stout character. This beer reminds me of a Grand Cru in its complexity and taste, or, as in the Beer Advocate description, a "Belgian Strong Dark Ale". Maybe "mild stout" is how the Belgians describe a"strong dark ale."

In any case this is a complex interesting beer, just don't let the name fool you!

hosehead83, Mar 08, 2009
Photo of sulldaddy
3.55/5  rDev -8.5%

okay, the beer starts with a gush upon popping the cap...uhoh...usually not a good sign.
Beer is poured at cellar temp into a snifter. Pours a dark mahogany to chocolate brown. A fluffy beige head of 4-5 cm foams up rapidly and surprisingly fades quickly to a thin surface layer with clingy foam on the glass as lattice.
Aroma is some chocolate maltiness and a little brown sugar but overall fairly mild.
First sip reveals a soft silky textured brew with almost non-existent carb, must've all fizzed into the air upon opening the bottle.
The flavor is generally sweet chocolate and brown sugar with a little bit of doughy yeast. The finish is a little dry and roasty actually, but also just a hint of an off metallic flavor way in the background. Overall the beer is tasty, but I wonder about geyser beers and their status. I'd like to try this one again methinks.

sulldaddy, Feb 16, 2009
Photo of thekanna
4.15/5  rDev +7%

A: Pours an opaque brown with miles of frothy, lacy, tan head. Effervescence is really visible as myriad trails of tiny, effervescent bubbles are rising to the top.

S: Molasses like sweetness with tones of spicy cloves, cinnamon, and ginger. Esters and yeasts are detectable but not overpowering.

T: Powerful taste of roasted malts and smoky, dark chocolate which end in bitter coffee. Estery taste is briefly present with the malts but gets drowned out in the bitterness.

M: Slightly tingling sensation on the tongue gives way to a smoothness and slickness as it goes down.

D: Great for sipping. It's complex enough to be Belgian, yet has an overall English quality to it. Excellent balance of the two.

thekanna, Feb 06, 2009
Photo of dirtylou
4.05/5  rDev +4.4%

1/2 off taps at brasserie V on inauguration day

cell phone notes

appearance: served in a nice chalice, strong mahogany body, garnet tints, tan creamy froth

smell: sweet and roasty, light chocolate, pruin/raisin, caramel malts

taste: nice - a little sour, a little sweet, a lot roasty...dry chocolate, pruin/raisin/date, smoky, a touch of rum. nice find indeed

mouthfeel: smooth and robust

drinkability: good

dirtylou, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of HappyBivouac
3/5  rDev -22.7%

Poured into an Ommegang glass. The bottle is different from the one on the site, and more to my liking. Best by date on the bottlecap of 23/05/10

a- cloudy dark brown an a light tan head that dissipates quickly leaving a thin bubbly film. pretty pleasant to look at, actually. The head after calming down has a really interesting appearance involving lots of large and small circles making a pattern. That's the best way I can describe it but I haven't seen this phenomenon before.

s- smells of belgian yeast fruity sweetness and tartness. Lots of mildy tart and sweet fruits like raisins, white grapes, apples and pears. Not so bad.

t- very bready with subtle sour/sweet fruits right upfront with a little bit of brown sugar. There are very, VERY subtle hints of roasted chocolate and coffee, but not enough to round this out. The weird thing is there is no discernable flavor in the middle. It feels like the taste enters the mouth and seems promising, then suddenly vanishes like a ghost. The finish is a strong definite belgian yeast tartness. The long-term aftertaste is an unpleasant yeasty sour feeling. None of the flavors--though strong--seem to have any sort of fullness to them, and overall it seems very unbalanced and/or lacking. This doesn't taste like a stout in any way, shape or form, either.

m- a medium to medium-heavy body that clashes and contrasts with the weird ghostly vanishing taste. Would love this feel in other beers, not so much here.

d- like I said, the flavors are strong but don't present themselves well at all. I got tired of the taste and heavy body of this beer, so I couldn't see myself having another or buying this ever again.

HappyBivouac, Dec 31, 2008
Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.48/5  rDev -10.3%

Reviewed on 6/6/08. Bottle. Pours a cloudy brown with a nice tan head. Aroma strongly of raisin as well as brown sugar. Flavor again of raisin, sweetness, slight hint of coffee. Even though I don't like raisin flavor in general, it was enjoyable in this beer. Not too sweet and the alcohol was well hidden. This tasted like a Belgian strong ale, not a stout. Good beer.
6/4/7/4/14 (3.6/5)

LilBeerDoctor, Dec 20, 2008
Photo of benmiliron
2.73/5  rDev -29.6%

Paid $3.99 for a bottle. Bottle was 6 mo. past "best by" date. Dark tar or molasses in the glass. Nice tan head falls fast. Smell is alcohol and spice. Taste is the most interesting. Dark candied fruits and alcohol, a bit of yeast, dates, and an unpleasant bite of something medicinal. Mouthfeel packs a punch with sharp carbonation.

Probably too old a bottle, but there are too many beers out there to try this again. No thanks.

benmiliron, Dec 05, 2008
Photo of magictrokini
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%

Pours dark brown with red highlights and a short off-white head. Aroma was soap, funky yeast, marshmallows, prunes, and cocoa. Taste was much better. Rich chocolate, mocha, coffee, and toasty malt. It rapidly turns to cherries, yeast, and caramel/spun sugar/too sweet raisins. Interesting Belgian take on a stout.

magictrokini, Dec 05, 2008
Photo of thekevlarkid
4.05/5  rDev +4.4%

This Belgian Stout I split with my friend John, while sleeping on his couch because my GF had kicked me out of the house. If it seems like a did a lot of reviews while in that painful relationship, it's because I did. Out of the bottle the beer was a cloudy dark mahogany color. Huge three finger head of mocha-like foam that retained beautifully and left curtains of sticky lacing on our glasses. The aroma was clearly Belgian, complex fruity esters, roasted malt and coffee. The flavor profile was similar, starting sweet with chocolate then going into the fruit and tangy yeast before swinging to the bitter end for an acidic, coffee finish. Complex and distinctly European. I prefer American stouts personally but if you dig the over the pond kind you must try it.

thekevlarkid, Dec 05, 2008
Photo of shivtim
4.03/5  rDev +3.9%

Had this on tap at the thirsty monk in Asheville. Served up in a glass from the brewery!

Deep red-black brew, nice mahogany tints to the edges. Decently sized head is dark beige.

Smell is roasty chocolate malts. Taste is toasted malts, dark chocolate and fruits, and some spice that seems vaguely Indian subcontinent-esque, if that makes sense. Nice interaction between the deep fruits and delicate spice.

Very solid brew.

shivtim, Nov 18, 2008
Photo of IPAcraig
3.55/5  rDev -8.5%

Opened this one whilst watching the battle of my almae matres.

Good looking beer Creamy, sticky head atop a black body with ruby edges.

This beer has a spicey, roasted taste and aroma. Nice but perhaps lacking depth. A bit warm in thie finsih with a hint of soy.

Light belgian style mouthfeel.

A good beer, but not great.

IPAcraig, Nov 16, 2008
Photo of Overlord
2.05/5  rDev -47.2%

This is a stout?

Pours a cloudy dark brown. Large tan head. Smells... bad. Chocolate gone bad, rotten fruit ... oxidized coffee? Taste is, again, bad. Seemed metallic/oxidized, a rancid cafe au lait flavor ... just really unpleasant. Mouthfeel too thin for a stout.

I've had several Belgian stouts now, and I have strongly disappointed by each one. Clearly, not my style.

Overlord, Nov 10, 2008
Photo of CHADMC3
4.05/5  rDev +4.4%

Pours a nice mahogany with hints of ruby and a big, fluffy tan head giving way to substantial lacing which lasts throughout the beer.

Great aroma consisting of dark fruits, spice, roasted malt, and dark bread.

The taste brings out many characteristics I did not detect in the aroma including a prominent sweet chocolate to accompany the dark fruits and roasted malt with just a touch of bitterness as declared on the bottle.

Medium to light body with much to offer the palate and fairly generous carbonation.

Drinkability is great! Tons of flavor, smooth going down and always leaves you craving the next sip.

CHADMC3, Nov 07, 2008
Photo of prototypic
4.33/5  rDev +11.6%

Appearance: This one pours a nice looking dark chestnut brown color. There's plenty of scarlet highlights around the edges despite it's slightly hazy appearance. The head is tan in color and easily two and a half fingers deep. It was slow to dissipate and left a sticky coat of lace clinging to the glass.

Smell: The nose is very nice, but falls well short of spectacular. It's primarily a well blended mix of chocolate and roasted malts. In true Belgian fashion, it smells lightly spiced. There's some dark fruit aromas at the secondary level. This is a complex and nice smelling beer. But, it seems like the malts tend to push everything else around.

Taste: The flavor is much even keel and well done. Chocolate and roasted malts are very flavorful and well balanced. Neither seems to win the tug of war, but it is worth noting that the chocolate malts strongly resemble milk chocolate (rather than dark). It features a light spicy flavor. Other than clove, the spices are unidentifiable, but really liven up the flavor. There's some light dark fruit flavors (mostly raisin and plum). Surprisingly, no alcohol is noted. It finishes sweet and slightly sour. Indeed, this is a very complex and flavorful beer.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: It's light bodied and has a pretty nice feel. Perhaps it's a tad too light. Carbonation is active, but it remains nice and smooth. Drinkability is very high. This is really an easy drinking beer, especially taking the 8.5% abv into account. It goes down way too easy for that stature.

Troubadour Obscura's a very impressive beer. I didn't quite know what to expect from this one. Color me very surprised and impressed. It's packed full of flavor and is very complex. Yet, it's an approachable and very drinkable beer. I think it could stand a little more body and a little work on the nose. But, it's a very good beer nonetheless. Definitely one to check out.

prototypic, Nov 05, 2008
Photo of craytonic
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%

On tap at the Thirsty Monk in Asheville, NC

Beautiful dark mahogany pour, nice head, good lacing.

Nose of dark fruit, brown sugar, roasted malts, and spice

Taste: Dark fruit (raisins, figs, prunes), brown sugar, molasses, roasted malts, cranberries, spice, a little port/sherry

Mouthfeel: Not a perfect Belgian, but still very good and enjoyable.

Highly drinkable, very enjoyable.

craytonic, Nov 03, 2008
Photo of guntherhophead
3.9/5  rDev +0.5%

A-Pours a dark amber-brown w/light-beigehead. Some tracing, respectable retention.
S-Sweet malt, dough, raisins, light cocoa, molasses, very faint spice.
T-Sweet malt, raisin, chocolate malt (erring in favor of the malt), light hops in the finish that cleanse.
M-Medium body w/velvety mouthfeel and w/perfect amount of restrained carbonation.
D-This is not a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. It lacks the spice character, and even the bottle says "mild stout." Also, the abv is incorrect (8.2% on bottle). The alcohol is somewhat masked...you can tell it's strong, but it goes down very smoothly.

guntherhophead, Oct 20, 2008
Photo of peabody
4.08/5  rDev +5.2%

Pours out really dark and coffeelike with three fingers of tan small bubbles. Really a good looking pour in my Stone Tulip glass.
Smell is very fruity with fig and raisin aromas mixed with a malty caramel that smells really sweet. As it warms I get the coffee smell but is is very subtle but nice. Some alcohol is present here but not a lot.
Taste is caramelly sweet with a slight hint of plum and raisin. Not much coffee to be tasted here but you can get that in the bitter aftertaste. Very well balanced brew here. Nice.
Mouthfeel is very clean with just a tad of oily residue making you want another sip.
Just a bit too sweet for a session brew but still a great beer from Belgium.

peabody, Sep 27, 2008
Photo of erikm25
4.43/5  rDev +14.2%

A: Poured a chocolate brown hue. A hint of a dark amber if held up to the light. Creamy one and a half inch head. Solid carbonation and lots of lacing there.

S: Malt mixed with dark fruits and brown sugar. Thick rich molasses and caramel blended nicely with the roasted fruit aromas.

T: Definite chocolate and coffee tastes here. The alcohol is disguised nicely by a licorice and dark fruit texture. Smoked plums or toasted apricots smothered in caramel.

M: Medium body with a long finish and a lingering taste.

D: Very impressed.

erikm25, Sep 07, 2008
Photo of bunnyhustle
3.8/5  rDev -2.1%

Poured into chalice. Nice thick off-white head, rich mahogany in color and good retention and lacing...a very nice looking beer. Smell complex with notes of sweet milk chocolate, some alcohol, caramel, and dark fruits. As it warmed it almost took on a red wine like smell. Taste was good but a little too boozy for me. Some chocolate, dark fruits (cherries or grapes it seemed like), a bit of coffee and a little too much alcohol. I also notice a slight metallic taste to it. The mouthfeel was thick and smooth, very warming as it goes down. Overall a great beer. I dont know if the metallic taste was just a bad bottle or not, but even with that, it proved to be a solid Belgian.

bunnyhustle, Sep 04, 2008
Photo of Brad007
3.85/5  rDev -0.8%

Pours a reddish-black color with a two-finger head that fades down, leaving some decent lacing in the glass.

Aroma is rich with hints of chocolate, coffee and dark fruit. There's also an underlying creaminess present. Definitely smells like a stout.

Taste starts out smooth upfront with chocolate, dark fruit and coffee showing up in front. As the beer hits the back of the tongue, creaminess takes over.

Mouthfeel is just that: creaminess with some trace of bitterness from the coffee-like flavors. Carbonation is a bit too high. Alcohol is well-hidden.

Drinkability is solid here. I believe after some aging, this will develop more of a stout character. Similar to Allagash Black but with more polish. The carbonation isn't desirable to me but otherwise, it's a nice Belgian take on a stout.

Brad007, Sep 01, 2008
Troubadour Obscura from Brouwerij De Musketiers
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