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Troubadour Obscura - Brouwerij De Musketiers

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Ratings: 383
Reviews: 221
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 12.11%
Wants: 13
Gots: 14 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: TastyTaste on 09-21-2003

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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.08/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Troubador Obscura, 12 oz brown bottle. "mild stout."

mmm, I like Belgian stouts...

Dark brown, with ruby tints, lovely toasted tan head, a match for Belgian cocoa powder. Beautiful.

aroma: soft, light chocolate, sweet, but solid...darker delights come forth in time, more maple and anise. Very nice.

Taste: Full-bodied, nice chocolate flavor, sweet, then bitter, then smooth. Some mild astringency, but sweet cocoa is king. Lays long on the palate. Lingers in the memory.

Exceptional and intriquing. Tasty, tasty, tasty.


Photo of OWSLEY069
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black with amber hints and a tan head. Aroma of a Belgiany sweet roasted malt. In the taste, a sweet roasty malt. A smooth, big body mouthfeel and a sweet malty aftertaste.Nice and smooth, nice body. More porter-ish than a stout, but still tasty and quite different.

Photo of smurphy77
4.18/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A lithe and fizzy beer with darker flavors. Nice combination of texture and taste. From the tap, this beer poured dark brown with a one finger head that lasted til the last drop. Smelled of dark roasted malts and tootsie rolls (stuck in halloween mode maybe).

Flavors of molasses and a sweetness reminiscent of root beer with bright soda-like carbonation to boot. Slightly bitter aftertaste that comes with a faint note of alcohol.

This beer is very easy to drink, although I don't know if I could have more than one at a time. Certainly worth a try, if for no other reason than it is quite a unique brew.

Photo of Foxman
4.15/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It pours a murky, velvety mahogany with genuine ruby highlights, fetching in an afternoon's sun. A thick finger of dense light tan head sustains for an adequate while. Bursts of lacing star the inside of the glass.

The aroma is rife with dark fruit, caramel toasted malt, a mild lactic bite, molasses, and plentiful spicy esters. Not to mention, the alcohol, while restrained, is amply present.

Upon sipping, and believe me, it was just an initial sip, the malt is again sweet with caramel, but also with a more up-front candy sugar sweetness mixed with toffee. Dried fruit, being raisins and prunes, provide an earthy fruit effect. Cocoa and a mild layer of general spice glide into a soft sourness that itself morphs into a light lash of alcohol. The finish is a nicely lingering extension of a the slightly bitter and crisp spiciness. The flavor is full and bold, and attractively complex.

Medium bodied, the carbonation pricks the creamy flow of malt, generating a lively and fun presence.

Mild stout, huh? I'm not sure I can get my arms around that, but it is a very stately, complex, and blended Belgian, with plenty of guts and finesses, each in turn. It stood up to and wonderfully complimented a fine Italian blue cheese, Blu del Moncenisio. Even as a standalone, it is utterly enjoyable, if at times a bit too big for its own good, maybe blurring some edges in spots. The ABV is spookily disguised, lurking and waiting for one's foolish over-indulgence. And yet, it goes down well, clean in the end, and refreshing, especially with the right gustatorial pairing. So call it what you will, it's a pleasure.

Photo of barrelman
3.8/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This brew has been lurking in my fridge for about a year and a half. I just couldn't seem to take the label seriously. The appearance would've been a 4.5 if not for it.

Terrific hues of red streak through the darkness. Caramel and slight butter hit the nose to pleasurable affect. Flavor is good until the end when it drops out and leaves some alcohol bits in my nose. I know it's 8.5 but I was hoping that the crystal would help mask it a little more.

Mouth is creamy and thick. Drinkability is better than I thought and will try this one again.

Photo of techdiver
4.43/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep chestnut brown with a substantial head that dissipates slowly

Dark fruit, caramel malt nose.

Taste echoes the nose with a very evident licorice element previously undetected.

Medium bodied, smooth mouthfeel with fine carbonation.

Very drinkable brew, most enjoyable.

Photo of emerge077
4.08/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Served cool, around 50º-55º.
Aged one year in the cellar, 11.2 oz. BBD: 09/02/09

Huge billowing head out of the tulip glass. Sticky tan lace all around, puffy and merengue-like. After 10 minutes it diminishes a bit, but surges again with a second pour. Deep burnt chestnut hue.

Aroma is lightly milky sweet with a lactic edge, roasted malt as well. Belgian yeast lends an indescribable fruitiness. Sort of simple. but the sum of it's parts is appealing.

Mellow body and feel, notes of malted milk candy, chocolate, slight bitterness to the roasted malt element. Well balanced, deceptively hidden alcohol. Not all that stouty, but certain characteristics lean in that direction. Mild sweetness, but not cloying. Lingering dry aftertaste, malty with alot of yeast character.

Overall very nice, a good Belgian to keep in the cellar, or to enjoy whenever you want a BSDA with more character.

Photo of beerphilosopher
4.15/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pors a deep ruby red color, nearly black until held in the light. Topped off with a tall, frothy head of light tan foam that leaves streaks of lacing in the tulip glass. The nose is of roasted malt, mollasses, raisins, and dates. Very warm and very rich. The palate reminds me in some small way of Achel Brune, but slightly more biting. This is a Belgian strong dark ale, not a stout, at least in the traditional sense of the word. Dark roasted malt, figs, raisins, and more black-strap mollasses in the palate. The 8.5% alcohol is quite well hidden, but does provide a nice warm finish. Speaking of finish, this ale is not cloying but does have a lingering sweetness. Aggressively carbonated, it leaves fairly clean and dry however. Thich in the mouth, but alive with carbonation. This is an intriguing beer. Very rich and complex - a pleasant Belgian strong dark ale in every respect, I'd say. If I had another bottle, I'd want to cellar it for a year or two and see how the flavors and mouthfeel round out. Still, very nice as it is now.

Photo of Zorro
4.32/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750-ML bottle with a perma cork pulls out with just hand strength. This batch says 8.2% ABV on the bottle.

Opaque brown beer that can pass a little red light but not much. Tall light brown head.

Smell is sweet and extremely fruity to the nose, lots of raisin and dark dried fruit scents. Bit of sugared pineapple and cherry, this smells pretty much exactly like the candied fruit assortments that you can buy at Christmas time. Strong brown sugar and molasses scent. A little bit of chocolate and brandy in the scent. A surprise for sure this is one of the best smelling beers of its type and it is very complex.

The taste begins sweet and smoky with quite an unexpected and strong flavor of smoky malt and chocolate. Sweet with a little balancing tartness that I believe is patent malts sour, bitter, smoky and sometimes metallic tastes. The smoky taste never really goes away and that makes this a lot like a Scottish Wee Heavy. The stout part of this I can't really taste except for some bitterness, this is really closer to Scottish ale. Lots of brown sugar and dark preserved fruit flavor. Strange but this does have some Musk Melon flavor to it.

The mouthfeel is good.

Can't exactly say drinking this beer is a chore, in fact it is quite good. Definitely one of those freestyle Belgian Ales that succeeds. The Brew-master has taken ideas from many different beer styles and countries and melded them into something of a Belgian take on the sweet stout but it tastes more like a Wee Heavy to me. Recommended for those who don't care too much about definitions and strict interpretations of beer styles.

Photo of gmcfarre
4.29/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle poured into St. Barnardus Chalice
Cap labeled "Best Before 23/08/08"

A - Pours a dark, chestnut brown color with a minimal tan head that fades quickly. Lacing is moderate and produced in rings. Nearly opaque, but not quite.

S - Strong, sweet dark fruits (raisin, plum come to mind) with earthy caramel scents and lots of spice. Really pleasant and outgoing scent.

T - Sweet raisins and caramel with some traditional Belgian spices batting around your palate. High alcohol content is well hidden at first, but becomes slightly more prominent with its burning aftertaste as the beer warms. Very little hop activity, if any. Tasty and balanced.

M - Smooth, lightly carbonated and somewhat delicate for such a dark beer. Light to medium body with slightly sweet aftertaste.

D - A very enjoyable Strong Dark Ale that hides it alcohol well. Definitely worth a try if you can find it.

Photo of ZAP
3.18/5  rDev -18%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A-Very dark brown with a big tan head

S-Hard/Mineral water....musty....a sour notes...

T-Begins sweet....some milk chocolate...roasted malts....finishes slightly tart...

M-Medium bodied...creamy texture.

D-Unique effort here....not sure if this is a stout or a Belgian Strong Ale...tastes like a blend...worth trying for the sake of trying something a little different. One is enough for me though...

Photo of John_M
4.08/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I ordered this by accident the other night, thinking I was getting the Jolly Pumpkin Dark Dawn. As it turned out, the mistake was fortuitous, as I probably would not have ordered this beer otherwise. Much to my surprise, it was quite excellent.

Ordered on tap at Max's the other night.

The beer pours a nice, dark, rootbeer color, with very good head retention and lacing. On the nose I'll be damned it it dosen't have a bit of cola/rootbeer aroma, along with some cherry and vanilla. On the palate this is really yummy stuff. The beer has a very soft, creamy mouthfeel, with a lovely creamy, sweet chocolate, cherry and cola flavor profile. This beer is entirely too easy to drink, with the 8.5% very well disguised. The beer glides like silk across the palate.

This beer is so easy to drink, you could hurt yourself if you weren't careful. I'll definitely be ordering this one again, and next time it won't be by accident.

Photo of JoeyBeerBelly
4.23/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, poured in a 'Troubadour Color Glass' (14oz, curvey U-shaped glass).

A - dark red-brown color with a rich creamy beige head that crowns your glass. Thanks to the refermentation in the bottle, we have lots of natural carbonation with lots of lace left on the empty glass.

S - malt, coffee and chocolate.

T - flavors are deep and rich, malty, clearly roasted (is it hints of coffee, is it hints of chocolate?). Deceptive, because the relatively high alcohol content is not immediately felt, except maybe a slight warming sensation. Complex aftertaste, with some licorice undertones, and a pleasant bitterness.

M - medium/full bodied, good carbonation.

D - one or two of these is a very nice tasty treat.

Final Note: this is a beer to savor and enjoy—let your taste buds experience every ounce of flavor.

Photo of AChamberlain
3.6/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured at the Gate in Park Slope, Brooklyn.

A: Poured into pint glass. Dark, black. Thin head, probably due to pour.

S: Slightly sweet aroma. Sugary/creamy. A bit of chocolate maybe

T: This beer actually reminded me a lot of the Brooklyn Black Choc. Stout but a bit more of bore. Yummy altogether though. Good chocolate flavors.

M: Medium body. Not to thick and smooth.

D: Pretty drinkable, besides the strong alcohol flavor, but hey this is beer. I would definitely try again next winter.

Photo of Metalmonk
4.35/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had my first-ever bottle of this at Vol De Nuit in NYC, and took notes while enjoying it.

Poured a smallish light-tan head, on top of a deep milk chocolate color.

Aroma is toffee, dark fruits, burnt sugar and chocolate.

The flavor is so ridiculously close to a 5, but I just couldn't quite award it a grade of perfection. But man, this is delicious. Milk chocolate up front, followed by a fruity clip and gooey, creamy caramel background. Burnt toffee, yeast, peanut brittle linger in the finish. A lively spiciness emerges as it warms (probably more the alcohol than anything else).

Mouthfeel is creamy, milky, buttery, and moderately carbonated. Yummm...

YUM, I say again. Dessert beer for sure.

Photo of BeerBelcher
3.88/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I wasn't quite sure what to expect from aBelgian stout, but in hindsight I should've anticipated what I got - this beer is somewhat roasty (like a lot of American stouts) but balanced with a bit of sourness. The beer finishes rather dry, and the fruity sourness in this beer is imparted without any fruity stickiness. All in all this beer is quite solid all the way around, and I'd highly recommend it.

I had this at Roman's Pub in Milwaukee, served (as always) in appropriate glassware (a Unibroue tulip if I remember correctly). Appearance was black with some red "legs" as the light shone through it.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.32/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a tulip glass)

A- This beer pours a super thick cream light tan head that takes up about 1/2 of the glass and pushes above the rim. There is a warm brown body that is dense but lets light in toward the base of the beer. There is a super strong carbonation of tiny bubbles that keep that head growing.

S- The slightly sweet earthy black malt aroma has smells of dark caramel sugar following it with a white candy sugar and cream note in the finish.

T- This beer has a light musty almost horsy taste followed by notes of brown sugar and dark black roasted malt with hints of dark toffee. There is a light bitterness in the finish that is from roasted malt and not hops with a light alcohol taste to clean of the finish. The horsy taste increases as the beer warms.

M- This beer has a light mouthfeel with a light pucker at the finish.

D- This beer has a nice dark malt flavor and some nice wild yeast characteristics. This is a creative beer that shows fusion done right can really make a good beer.

Photo of grub
4.17/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

11.2oz bottle sampled at the burger bar in las vegas june 5th/07.

pours medium brown with a big dark tan head. the head drops fast with no lace.

aroma is nice. bit of alcohol. very light roast. nutty - walnut shells? nice light caramel sweetness. milk chocolate. definitely a stout from belgium. shades of belgian dark ale with a bit of dark fruit - date and fig.

taste is neat. belgian strong dark ale meets sweet stout. light alcohol. bit nutty. bready malt. lots of date and fig dark fruit. nice light roast and bittersweet chocolate to keep it in check. medium bitterness level. bit of toffee and caramel.

mouthfeel is ok. medium-high carbonation level is just a bit too high. has the dry finish of a belgian but with a solid medium-large body of a stout. just a hint of astringency.

drinkability is good. i really enjoyed this combination. the high carbonation is the biggest flaw to me, and even that isn't too bad. a great marriage of stout and belgian. just give it a good swirl to loose some carbonation and it's great.

Photo of mynie
4.05/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Nice pour into a Delirum Tremens chalice. Very dark with a respectable head.

The smell of Belgian yeast overpowers roasted stout malt. Really smells much more like a Belgian dark than a stout.

Tastes the same. Very sweet yeast, dark Belgiany spices, and only a slight node of stout grains that are actually rough enough to be from a porter. It ends on the odd taste of cola.

Not what it was presented as, but a good beer nonethless.

Photo of drpimento
4.3/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

foist off, don't know the status of this brewery. Bodega used to get troubadour amber with the other label of the "happy guy". Anyway - this was served with a light head and some lace. Mahogany color. very aromatic malty character. Flavor's the same, but more intense. a little booziness. and an odd bit of peatiness, like a misplaced scotch ale. delicious.

Photo of shadow1961
3.48/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Troubador Obscura Mild Stout pours out a tan head over a black brew. The
nose is dark malts, dark fruits, and something like scotch. The flavor is sweetish
malt up front with a sharp bitter chocolate finish, and yes, a bit of a hint of scotch
boozyness in the mix. The mouthfeel is a bit thin for a stout, but dry. Not bad at all.

Photo of rayjay
4.53/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

BB 23/08/08. Purchased at Ledger's Liqour, Berkley, CA. Great looking beer, with lots of deep browns and reds and purples coming together to make a perfect gentle black. Slightly transparent like a dubbel. Nice fluffly foam. Great nose as well, big and full, slightly sour like Orval, a bit of pleasant diacetyl, and sweet smelling deep roasted, but not blackened, malts.

Delicious and refreshing, and absolutely no sign of alcohol or high gravity. Sweet and sticky, yet not thick or viscous. Milk chocolate, malt, carmel, Rolos®. Great light mouthfeel, perfect gentle carbonation, subtle spring water backbone. Great drinking. It's absolutely delicious, and perhaps the most un-intimidating stout to convert your fellow beer drinkers. Cheers!

Photo of Estarrio
4.73/5  rDev +21.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was one of the beers that I chose to bring back with me from Belgium. As I crack the bottle and begin to enjoy this lovely brew, I can easily see why it made the cut.

Poured a dark, murky brown with subtle red tones. The amazing coffee colored head takes on a life of it's own. Persistent head? Heck, this one was still growing after several minutes in the glass. When the brew was gone, the glass was left adorned with sticky, frothy lacings along its walls.

Creamy caramel, cherry, raisin, doughy yeast, chocolate, sweet and roasted malts, candied sugar...Wow! This is one of the more complex Belgian strong dark ales that I've head the pleasure of enjoying. There is a bit of spicy alcohol present as well.

The mouthfeel is velvety with ample, fizzy carbonation that lends to a creamy consistency. 8.5% I could easily session this drinkable nectar.

The taste is every bit as complex, smooth and balanced as the aroma. The predominate esters include cherry, Muscat and raisin. There is a pleasing malt backbone with a touch of chocolate, caramel and roasted flavors. An earthy yeast taste, really ties the flavors together. The aftertaste has a bit of spicy booze. Other notable flavors include a touch of oak, vanilla and brown sugar. There is so much going on and it all works so well together!

This is easily one of my favorite Belgian strong darks. I'd absolutely love to see this in the states.

Photo of rallison
4.62/5  rDev +19.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served at just under cellar temp into a Gulden Draak goblet.

A: Dark dark brown with a 2 finger fluffy tan head that lasts very well (and nice lacing too!).

S: Prunes, raisins, dates, molasses. Yummy!

T: Oh man, first sip is delicious. Prunes at the forefront, along with those raisins and dates. Tons of dark fruits! Candi sugar sweetness is back there, along with some chocolate and molasses. Maybe even some red wine thrown in for good measure. Delicious!

M: Nice and rich - full bodied for sure. Perfect carbonation level enhances this richness.

D: Intense flavors, so not exactly sessionable. But, give me a bomber and I'd probably finish it.

Highly recommended. This, folks, is tasty! Put it this way - I've had quite a few brews, so it takes something special for me to really notice it - I noticed this one!

Photo of GClarkage
4.62/5  rDev +19.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11/17/06- Purchased at Ledgers Liquors in Berkeley, CA.

Presentation- 11.2oz bottle. Best by date on cap of bottle. Poured into my Alesmith tulip.

Appearance- Deep black with some dark cherry highlights. Full, oevrflowing pockmarked head. Chunks of caking lace everywhere.

Smell- Very nice bittersweet chocolate in the nose along with dark roasted sugary malt. Maybe even a touch of fruit in the nose.

Taste- Oak flavored background. Peppery, with a mild smoky character. Milky smooth with chocolate notes. Had an odd flavor I can't put my finger on as well, but it's a good one.

Mouthfeel- Smooth, silky and creamy. Cask like carbonation level. Thick, yet not a full mouthfeel.

Drinkability- Flavors meld excellent together. Very well rounded per style and in every category. Wonderful stout that I highly recommend.

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