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Troubadour Magma - Brouwerij De Musketiers

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Reviews: 150
Hads: 453
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 7.25%
Wants: 28
Gots: 55 | FT: 1
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Belgian IPA |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: richmof on 05-11-2010

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Photo of glb3
1.81/5  rDev -53.1%
look: 1 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.25 | feel: 1.75 | overall: 1.75

Overly hopped Belgian ales is just a really bad idea. The two flavor profiles do not go well together. I believe that the hop profile of Belgian ales should be gently stitched into the backround. Belgian yeast strains married to a properly malted barley is a beautiful thing. A menage a trois with some big hops might sound interesting, but it just messes things up.
This particular selection was unattractive to look at. The color was OK, but it was cloudy and filled with rather large suspended particles...even after carefully pouring into a glass; too much reliance on bottle conditioning rather than secondary fermentation. I found it to have too much carbonation, and too large of a head.
Spend your beer funds on some of the other great Belgian ales at your disposal. This one was hard to swallow. (805 characters)

Photo of psuKinger
1.99/5  rDev -48.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Bottle poured into pint glass; review done from notes taken at my sister's apartment. A little over-carbonated, as it began to rise up through the neck of the bottle before I could get it poured. Indication #1 that this beer may be "old", but I can find no freshness info on the bottle, so my review continues.

A: pours a hazy light orange with a thick foamy off-white head. 4.0

S: bisquity and earthy sweet, with a twinge of citrus hops and cotton candy sweetness. 2.5

T: malty sweet, with citrus on the back end, but no bitterness to balance it out. Overly sweet, cloyingly so, with that "cotton candy" sweetness that indicates to me it is beyond it's freshness. With no discernible freshness date, I can't confirm my fears, so I review none-the-less.  Triple-IPA? I think not... 1.5

M: thick and syrupy, this beer appears to be properly carbonated but you can't feel it through all the thick syrupy sweetness in the mouth. 2.5

D/O: this isn't very enjoyable at all. Not repeatable. 1.5 (994 characters)

Photo of largadeer
2.09/5  rDev -45.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Draft at Gourmet Haus Staudt. Cloudy, ruddy copper body; magma is an appropriate name. The head is small but retains well, leaving webs of lace behind as it falls.

The nose is more tripel than IPA. Very estery and phenolic, the yeast nearly overwhelms the hop aroma. This smells a lot like sulfurous dried fruit, peaches or apricots in particular. Spiciness is present in the form of clove and white pepper. There's a mild herbal hop note buried beneath. Not a ton of sweetness is noticeable, maybe a hint of dark candi sugar.

Spiciness and fruit carries over on to the palate, but there's a more dominant herbal, somewhat metallic or mineral hop flavor. Dried fruit and caramel flavors lend a touch of sweetness, but it's a more dry beer on the whole. The finish is only moderately bitter, but it has a metallic and herbal astringency that seems to linger entirely too long.

This becomes a bit of a chore to drink after a while; I'm not crazy about the interplay between the hops and yeast. Too much astringency, not enough hop flavor. I'll pass on this one in the future. (1,076 characters)

Photo of stcules
2.56/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Orange, quite hazy. Creamy white head.
In the smell ripe pear, apricot in syrup, and sugar and molasse. Too sweet.
The hop?
A bit better taste, less sugary and less ripe fruity.
Warming and alcoholic, but after a bit, quite boring.
Eminently alcoholic aftertaste.
Not balanced, not really inviting for a second taste.
(ps. Belgian IPA?) (337 characters)

Photo of Jesse13713
2.65/5  rDev -31.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Appearance - Awesome frothy lacing on this one. A completely opaque and cloudy amber-orange color that suits the name of the beer.

Smell - Smells of a spicier Belgian yeast. Strong hints of orange and caramel litter the nose as well.

Taste - The taste is hard to pinpoint here. Full of Belgian yeast and honey. Slightly sugary with floral notes. Faint hops.

Mouthfeel / Drinkability - Slightly sweeter than I expected. Definitely a sipper and overpriced at $4.99 for an 11.2 oz. I realize this is a short review, but this beer was just not at all that interesting to me. (573 characters)

Photo of snaotheus
3/5  rDev -22.3%

750ml corked/caged bottle at fridge temp split between a pair of large snifters. If there's a date or a code, I don't see it.

Pours cloudy amber with very little head, and not much carbonation. Smell is strong -- fruity, grassy, some hay.

Taste is oldish hops (once again, wish there was a date on the bottle), straw. A little funk.

Mouthfeel is thick. Overall, it's OK. (373 characters)

Photo of AgentZero
3.08/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

jrallen34 brought this to our recent tasting. To preface, I dislike most Belgian IPA's, although I have had a few I like.

A - Cloudy brownish-orange color with a two finger, white head that left minimal stick on the sides.

S - Some fruit, phenol, hops, belgian yeast, seems pretty typical of a Belgian IPA.

T - Some bizzare chemical and yeast flavor that tasted kind of skunky. Little bit of spice and hops, but I just didn't like much.

M - Medium bodied, dry finish.

D - I didn't like the beer enough to drink tons of it, perhaps I need more exposure to the style. (570 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.09/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to drabmuh for picking this bottle up for me. Poured into a snifter.

Pours a light golden copper color with a two-finger head with great retention and thick lacing. There is a great cap throughout. The nose is quite plain with a faint yeast character and a very minor amount of hops. Slightly sweet with a bit of peach. Taste is sweet and a bit grainy without any real hop or yeast character. Quite puzzling. A bit sweet and really not much else. Light caramel and stone fruits could be in there, if I try to throw out another few characteristics. Medium body and slightly cloying. Overall, not a big fan of this. (621 characters)

Photo of TheWhiskerReview
3.18/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Tasting sample pours a pale orange with some frothy head and wet lace.

Nose has a big, bready pale malt with some estery apricots and a big, noble hop earthiness. Some other, more delicate hop aromas of lean orange, flowers and herbs contribute also.

Palate is full bodied with a very dense, bready malt and a sizable earthy hop bitterness. This beer seems very big, and though it's an IPA, I think I'd prefer it aged. Any fruit is minimal and the spice and eventually very big alcohol take over on the finish- a lingering dryness at the very end with some more delicate notes of earth, flowers and citrus blossom.

Not bad but I don't think I'm a fan of this Double Belgian IPA style as it would seem to be at 9%, at least not fresh maybe. It's just a little out of whack and needs some time to come together. (812 characters)

Photo of danmcg62
3.2/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A-Pours an deep orange color with a big white head. I noticed ther is some grayish matter floating in the beer. Not sure what it is (yeast maybe?). Don't know what to make of this.

S-A real spicy, bready smell with various citrus fruits as well. Mild hop smell.

T-Very malty, hoppy. Mild citrus taste. Not too bad.

M-Real thick and chewy. Not overally drinkable.

O-Overall this beer is just OK. Don't know if I'd ever get it again, but glad I gave it a try. (461 characters)

Photo of chinchill
3.28/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

On tap at the Atlanta Yard House.
A: clear medium amber with a somewhat weak head.

Aroma: boozy with a hint of cognac over some Belgian yeast and a trace of bread.

Flavor: sweet up front turning lightly bitter by the finish. Building booziness.

Feel: light-medium body; carbonation seems too low. (303 characters)

Photo of thagr81us
3.3/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served from tap into a Troubadour tulip (proper!). Poured red-orange with a two and a half finger slightly off-white head that subsided to one finger slowly. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, fruit, citrus, citrus hop, earth, and earth hop. The flavor was of sweet malt, fruit, citrus, citrus hop, spice, and big sweetness. It had a light feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this was a fairly decent brew. First off, the sweetness on the flavor of this one was almost too much as my score will attest to. Luckily there were some citrus notes that helped to bring it back to an average brew for the style, but there was really no real balance going on here which was very saddening to me. Glad I got the chance to try it, but doubt I would order a glass again if there were other options available. (863 characters)

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.32/5  rDev -14%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Pours deep amber with a fading head.
Very sweet smelling aroma of confectionery, golden syrup and spicy hops.
Similar flavours, sweet malt and spicy, herbal hops. Also some booze giving a harsh, slightly industrial character.
Carbonation is a bit too high. (256 characters)

Photo of Zorro
3.33/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Clear copper colored beer with a tall yellowish white head.

Smell is sweet and hoppy. Toffee and coriander with leaf tobacco scent. Scent of apple skins and olive oil.

Starts out semisweet and woody with a strong tea flavor. Distinct wood hop flavor here lots of strong tea. Not really tasting like a Belgian IPA here, much more like an East Coast IPA with English style hops. OK I am disappointing, expected more.

Mouthfeel is OK.

Overall average at best. Save you money and buy the American version. (505 characters)

Photo of StlHopHead77
3.33/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2011 vintage

A-Poured a thick,turbid,peachish-orange body with yeast particles suspended throughout.A 2 1/2 inch tall,firm and resilient,bone white crown sat atop it and left thick rings of lacing on the glass.

S-Big,overripe citrus and stonefruit smells dominate with some scents of clove,bubblegum and bready yeasts as well.Candy sugar and a floral hop quality are also present.

T-More citrus and spice initially.Navel orange,clove,sourdough,peach Jolly rancher and baked sugar finish.

M-Medium bodied with a flavor profile that reminds me of a dry-hopped Witbier.Unique and relatively well-hidden ABV.

O-A more hopforward Belgian IPA than I've experienced before.Good but not great. (690 characters)

Photo of goblue3509
3.33/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a hazy orange with a one and a half finger fluffy white head. The head does not leave much in the way of lacing though. The aroma is of tropical fruits up front along with some sweetness, and a hop bitterness at the end of the nose. The taste follows suit. The beginning of the flavor is of citrus and tropical fruits, sweet not bitter fruits. There is a hint of belgian yeast and spiciness in the middle before a decent bitter hop bite at the end. The flavor is balanced but not as good as some in this class. The mouthfeel is a little thick and sticky with moderate carbonation. Overall the beer was solid, it wasn't best in class for this style but a solid decent beer. (678 characters)

Photo of JoeyBeerBelly
3.35/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle served in a glass goblet.

L - murky with a few floaties, burnt-orange color with a creamy beige head that left some sticky lacing behind.

S - Belgian yeast and spices.

T - spiced yeasty taste the hops are not too prominent and really only yield a slight bitterness on the dry finish.

F - medium bodied with active carbonation.

D - it went down easy enough. (375 characters)

Photo of MikeB20
3.4/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

P: 750ml bottle into a tulip glass.

A: Pours a hazy amber with a large foamy off white head. Lacing is very nice and remains throughout the glass.

S: A little barnyard typical of some Belgian yeasts. Lots of caramel sweetness with some alcohol. The hops have a citrus character to them, grapefruit and orange peel come to mind. I'm getting some sourness as the beer warms.

T: Lots of caramel up front with a solid bitterness to finish. A rind-like flavor from the hops. I thought there would be more complexity but it's fairly straight forward, sweet and then bitter. The Belgian yeast flavors are faint, as they're probably overpowered by the hops. Not really what I would consider an IPA but it's stated as such on the label.

M: Moderate body and carbonation. Slick on the tongue with some lingering bitterness.

O: I wasn't sure what I was in for when I poured this beer, I was expecting a highly hopped Belgian and for the most part that's what I got. It has some Belgian characteristics and some more of an IPA but it doesn't really blend either to that great of a result. The hops end up being more bitter than flavorful and the Belgian notes are lost on your tongue. This isn't a bad beer by any means, just not a great one. (1,235 characters)

Photo of Holland
3.43/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: cloudy amber orange color with a thick, foamy off-white head that lasts for a long time. I see a lot of floating matter.

S: citrus, fruity esters, thick malt smell, and some yeast

T: bitter and citrus hops with light malt and fruity esters and yeast flavors

M: very smooth, highly carbonated, and creamy/foamy with a medium-heavy body

O: This beer is heavier and creamier than other belgian IPAs I have tried. It's good, but not incredibly drinkable. I'll have it again in a few years when my preferences change again. (526 characters)

Photo of Cresant
3.45/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured this 11.2 oz. brown bottle into a Tripel Karmaliet glass. The cap had an inkjet date: 23/003/12. ? The body was a dull and turbid greenish-copper color. The head was off white/light tan and was quite tall, leaving splotchy lace.

The smell was simply flowery and fruity.

The taste was moderately yeasty with dirty hops. There was a nice lingering bitter finish. Spicy and rather drying.

The mouthfeel was medium in body and somewhat creamy. (449 characters)

Photo of FeDUBBELFIST
3.46/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served in a 10.5oz tulip for $8. Sampled 10/15/10.

A: Arrives with a finger plus of fluffy/creamy almost purely white head with great retention. The body is a murky honey-amber with transparency only when held to light. Lacing begins to coat the glass in sheets, becoming torn as the drinking continues. A collar and thin film persists.

S: There is a rustic hop quality to the nose, medium in intensity by American standards. General citrus up front, with light orange rind more specifically in the background. The yeast has an earthy doughy presence, which is relatively prominent. The malt bill produces aromas of caramel, straw and toffee. Slightly solventy.

T: The taste favors sweet caramel malt sweetness, backed by toffee, gently easing into orange hop flavor with warming alcohol not far behind. Bitterness is low.

M: Creamy and full with average or below levels of fine fizzy carbonation. Semi-sweet at first and dry on the finish.

D: [DRINKABILITY] Pretty average brew and not particularly exciting. I won't be ordering another. (1,043 characters)

Photo of BARFLYB
3.47/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On Tap at TJ's Everyday in a tulip glass.

Troubador Magma came in the glass looking faded orange with some bright bronze swimming within. Just some sparse white bubbles on top, no lacing. Smell is fairly malty but there is also some bright citrus hops rounding out with a whiff of alcohol. Some grain makes an appearence after a bit. On first sips, this tastes more like a weak barleywine to me, it just has that bigfoot taste to it, though watered down if that makes sense. Tastes of rancid pine, highly bitter(like a fresh bigfoot) with light tropic fruits. The belgian yeast while there, is not as pronounced as some in the style. This is more American than Belgian IMO. Feel is sticky and insanely bitter especially with the aftertaste. Carbed up very low, but enough to make a dent. Glad I tried it, this is a unique beer, and it was a good kickstart to the weekend with the 9% (883 characters)

Photo of david18
3.5/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I had a twelve ounce glass of this at DBGB on Manhattan's Upper East Side. It was described as a double IPA, no mention of Belgian. To my taste, it was pretty much a standard double. It was good, not great.

Appearance is cloudy with a thick head that faded pretty quickly.

Aroma was of intense hops combined with alcohol. Not much in the way of yeast or malt.

Flavor, on the other hand, was quite balanced among the three elements but a little on the hot/alcohol side.

Overall, a beer worth trying but not the best Euro-American IPA tht I've had. (550 characters)

Photo of sweemzander
3.5/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2oz. bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a hazy golden orange/peach colored hue. Produced a giant frothy white head with near perfect retention. Tons of lace left behind.

(S)- Lots of woody dry pine. Some lemon & lime citrus.

(T)- Similar to the smell. Lots of piney citrus, dry biscuit, and a mild yeasty clay.

(M)- A nice carbonation level and balance. Very much an IPA, but with mellow belgian characteristics.

(D)- I enjoyed this one. A good happy medium of hops and belgian characteristics. (506 characters)

Photo of ONUMello
3.52/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle poured into a goblet
A: Muddy orange with a gorgeous one-finger head that lingers
S: Raw grains, citrus, toffee. A bit of what I would describe as a cheese aroma comes through as it warms up. Pleasant & complex.
T: Sweet, with yeast, bread, citrus juice, then a brief hop kick at the end. Interesting, but disjointed.
M: Thick & not super easy to drink.
O: Love the nose, not so much a fan of the rest of it. Interesting to try, but would not be a repeat purchase. (478 characters)

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Troubadour Magma from Brouwerij De Musketiers
87 out of 100 based on 150 ratings.