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Wisdom Seeker - Black Raven Brewing Co.

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119 Ratings
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Ratings: 119
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 4.23
pDev: 9.93%
Wants: 35
Gots: 7 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Black Raven Brewing Co. visit their website
Washington, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial IPA |  9.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: boogyman on 11-25-2009)
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Thorpe429

Illinois

3.18/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle courtesy of psiweaver in the Good People/No Rules BIF. Served in a Mikasa tulip.

Pours a slightly-hazed peach color with a good white head and loads and loads of lacing on the sides of the glass. The nose brings a bit of alcohol and malt plus some citrus hops and a light bit of pine. Flavor takes a further turn toward the malt, though there's quite a bit of hop bitterness in the background. Medium body with a bit too much alcohol. Slight chewiness. Decent DIPA.

Serving type: bottle

12-17-2011 02:09:20 | More by Thorpe429
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jlindros

Massachusetts

3.19/5  rDev -24.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Thanks to rudzud for giving me this bottle to try.

Pours a nice creamy 1 finger head that fades at a med to slower pace, nice soapy lacing, long rings of lacing, semi hazy but mostly clear honey golden color.

Nose is a mix, some nice hops and some not so nice, starts with a little citrus and tropical notes, little juicy tangerine and papaya like, but that quickly gives way to the bad, some rancid hop oils, lots of hop oils and resin, some piney earthy and a little musty cat piss, lots of forest floor pine and herbal tea like hops. Under that is a little candy malt note, little sweetness.

Taste is also sweet, candy malts come right out, little syrupy and some candy sugar, even a touch of a maple syrupy like note but not really a mapley flavor. With that is a touch of booze warmth, and some phenolic notes. But the real player is the hops again, big earthy herbal hops, again that cooked vegetable like note and rancid hop oils, quite an unpleasant hop chracter I think, with some chewy spicy like hops, forest floor pine and earthiness, like chewing on the moss and pine needles, mushrooms, etc, on the floor. Quite bitter overall, that even brings a little briny taste, and booze with some esters. Finish is sticky sweet, more booze warming through with a little ester, lots more hops with chewy herbal forest floor flavors and cooked hop oils.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent but lighter carb, mild warming booze, little sticky sweetness.

Overall not good, malts are OK, booze is OK, but the hops are just bad I think, it's like you take the worst profiles of most hops and throw them together in this beer. The initial quick attempt at citrus was so quickly smashed I almost forgot I even got it in the first place.

Serving type: bottle

05-30-2014 01:14:19 | More by jlindros
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barleywinefiend

Washington

4.2/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured a transparent deep yellow color with good carbonation leaving a moderate white cap and bubbles but th lacing is light islight and head retention is minimal

S: Melons, grass, orange peel and grapefruit

T: Immediate sordove astringent and bitterness with a lemongrass note followed up with a light toasted grain, orange peel, grapefruit and a tough of melon. The finish has a light booze sting, a little slick but has a dry sordove feeling and taste to it

M: Medium bodied, well carbonated, a nice amount of lingering bitterness remains on the palate

O: Very good. Easy to drink, tastes wonderful. The appearance could use some legs and the nose could use a boost.

Serving type: bottle

10-30-2012 22:27:48 | More by barleywinefiend
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John_M

Oregon

4.49/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled (repeatedly) the other day at the Washington cask festival. Described in the program as "extra wise and firkenized."

The beer pours a somewhat hazy peachy amber color with suprising good head retention and consdirable sticky, creamy lacing all around. The nose is quite lovely in this beer, with a considerable amount of tropical fruit (smells like there's a lot of mosaic hops in this bad boy), but with noticeable citrus and pine as well. This smells like a serious DIPA, something that I was able to quickly verify on the palate. The flavor profile deliverys a lof of apricot and peach in this beer, but with a considerable back bone of orange citrus and pine as well. The finish is quite long and bitter in this excellent DIPA, and the alcohol is well integrated into the flavor profile.

Excellent beer, and one I'm very glad I finally had the opportunity to sample.

Serving type: cask

03-24-2014 15:48:29 | More by John_M
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rab53

Washington

4.25/5  rDev +0.5%

04-06-2014 08:23:23 | More by rab53
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mdaschaf

Washington

4.25/5  rDev +0.5%

07-02-2013 20:57:56 | More by mdaschaf
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Beerandraiderfan

Nevada

4.15/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap at Hopfest! Seemed to be very popular that day. A dark yellow pour, approaching light orange, the slightest amount of foam. Killer dry hopped citrus aroma.

Taste, more grapefruit and tangerine hop feel, the key component of this beer. Not super bitter, just hops. Would love to see this at next year's dipa festival, it would do well. Doesn't at all give off that its a dipa, you would think single given the lack of detectable alcohol and bitterness, the lightness of its body.

Serving type: on-tap

09-23-2010 23:17:57 | More by Beerandraiderfan
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beertunes

Washington

3.78/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served in straight pint glass. Poured a clean golden-yellow color with a thick, fluffy white head that had very good retention but not as much lacing as I anticipated.

A very strong pine hop aroma greets the nose. I didn't get any other scents and certainly no malt or sweetness. The flavors were similar, there must be malt in here because there is alcohol, but none show up on the tastebuds. Those pine flavors are the dominant flavors.

The body was on the thin side, more of a "hop juice" than a regular beer body. Drinkability was pretty good, depending on how you feel about piney hops.

Overall, a good beer that's worth some effort to seek out.

Serving type: on-tap

12-10-2009 04:25:56 | More by beertunes
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dirtylou

Washington

4.05/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

22oz bottle, split

Served in oversized Karmeleit glass - fairly light bodied with a huge sticky white head. The alcohol is omnipresent as is a permeating sweet citrus flavor. Moderately bitter, big grapefruit hop bite, pine, sugared ruby red. Quite good, but a bit rough around the edges.

Serving type: bottle

05-07-2013 03:28:54 | More by dirtylou
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HopHead84

California

2.78/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

2/20/2011

Huge thanks to pranaferox for grabbing me a growler. This was a long time want. Poured into a snifter. This was released about a week ago and traveled in the cold so it's very fresh. Growler opens with a soft hiss.

A: Perfectly transparent dark orange with a creamy off white head. Nice color. Retention is pretty good and lacing is scattered.

S: Pine resin, grapefruit, and a slightly sugary caramel malt foundation. There's a little orange flesh and subtle perfumey floral notes. It's not super aromatic, and it requires a lot of swirling and coaxing to bring out the hop notes. Muted and inexpressive.

T: Well balanced, almost tilting in favor of the malt. It's a decidedly Northwestern style Double IPA. Pleasant moderate bitterness, with pine and somewhat muted citrus that could be described as orange and grapefruit flesh. There's a lot of caramel malt and it's approaching bready at times, and it gives off a little sweetness. Alcohol is unabashed, and every basis point of the 9.00% can be tasted. The finish is quite boozy, with a lower moderate bitterness and lingering orange notes and alcohol notes. The alcohol wares on the palate and becomes detracting.

M: Medium in body with a lower moderate level of carbonation. Mouthfeel is smooth and sticky, though somewhat heavy and onerous.

Overall: This is just an okay beer. It's not that it's overly malty, but that the hops are muted and fail to hold up their end of the bargain, not really providing much in the aroma or flavor categories. Also, the booze flavor isn't at all masked. I appreciate the chance to try it, but not a beer I'd recommend seeking out. In the verdant landscape of IPAs and Double IPAs that is the west coast, this one falls short. I'm quite puzzled by the glowing reviews.

Serving type: growler

02-20-2011 23:38:44 | More by HopHead84
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tobelerone

Connecticut

3.5/5  rDev -17.3%

07-04-2014 06:40:12 | More by tobelerone
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HuskyinPDX

Washington

4.36/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz bottle sent to me from Hopburster.

A - Pours a slightly hazy, medium-oragne with a one finger light tan head. Good retention and lacing.

S - Super strong pine hits you hard, then some orange, and then a unique candy smell, almost like cotton candy.

T - Pine, grass, very earthy - then sweet citrus and candy follow.

D - Perfect balance here. Good carbonation and body.

O - I really love this one. Try it if you can.

Serving type: bottle

10-13-2011 02:56:02 | More by HuskyinPDX
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LiquidAmber

Washington

4.38/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Black Raven pint glass. Pours a light to medium golden amber with a fine two finger white head with great carbonation and chunky lacing. Aroma dominated by piney and citrus hops with grapefruit and light caramel malt. Flavor is a great balance between caramel malt and herbal, piney hops and mild mixed citrus. Medium body with some creaminess and nice active carbonation. It was a long wait to try this, but it was worth the wait. A very well balanced IPA that starts out nicely malty with light citrus fruit and then slowly develops a great herbal hop presence that lingers. Lives up to its hype and I look forward to greater availability. This is one of the great PNW breweries.

Serving type: bottle

04-21-2013 03:28:44 | More by LiquidAmber
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ShanePB

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +0.5%

08-08-2013 13:48:12 | More by ShanePB
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flagmantho

Washington

3.95/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 22oz bomber into a pint glass.

Appearance: golden hue with a haze-free body and a moderate effervescence. Head is a thick finger of frothy ivory foam with decent retention. Quite good!

Smell: citrusy hop character with a grainy malt underneath. Enticing and well-balanced, but not mind-blowing.

Taste: sweet malt with a dank, citrusy hop character. A little bit of graininess and astringency comes in at the end. The finish is a little more syrupy than bitingly bitter. It's a tasty brew, but doesn't have the crazy-good character of a great DIPA.

Mouthfeel: medium body with a big, well-integrated carbonation and a very good creaminess for the style. Kudos.

Overall: a very tasty and drinkable DIPA. Sweet with a nice fruity hoppiness, and not overwhelmingly bitter. I'd definitely have this again.

Serving type: bottle

11-25-2013 01:18:32 | More by flagmantho
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rudzud

Massachusetts

3.68/5  rDev -13%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Received as an extra in a trade and poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a nice crystal clear golden straw hue with a two finger rocky white head that faded to leave light side lacing and a thin blanket. Possibly the clearest DIPA I've seen.

S - Aromas of softer malts and hops, faint herbal tea notes, light caramel, candi, pine.

T - Taste is quite bitter / astringent. Pine is there, same with grapefruit pith. The bitterness is almost clashingly so, and I think it makes the alcohol stand out more. Definitely feel the ABV,
light caramel malt, faintly sweet, herbal hops. Really bitter finish.

M - Mouthfeel is a bit lower carbonated, really does not help to hide the alcohol.

O - Overall, this one threw me for a loop. Was expecting something really stellar but yeah, the alcohol was a bit much.

Serving type: bottle

05-21-2014 23:23:51 | More by rudzud
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strongaf

Washington

4.25/5  rDev +0.5%

11-11-2012 06:56:18 | More by strongaf
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twelveinches

Washington

4.25/5  rDev +0.5%

12-20-2013 06:52:58 | More by twelveinches
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Florida9

Illinois

4/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Clear amber. Forms about a half inch of thickish white head that slowly reduces down to a thick and stable surface coating. Leaves a nice bit of lacing on the way down.

S: A moderate amount of caramel malt forms a the backbone to the more pronounced grapefruit citrus and pine aroma.

T: More caramel malt. Light sweetness. Moderate pithy bitterness. Some citrus and some pine and a little resin, but nothing is overpowering and everything is in balance. Alcohol presents itself on the nice long bitter finish.

M: Medium bodied, moderate bitterness, softer carbonation.

O: A very nice, very well balanced beer. A bit on the lighter side for a Double - if this was listed as a straight up IPA I wouldn't second guess it - but still a quite enjoyable beer with loads of flavor and hoppy goodness.

Serving type: growler

07-30-2011 02:24:16 | More by Florida9
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Arbitrator

California

3.88/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Chilled bottle into a glass. Generously shared by Mike. Thanks!

A: Pours a hazy reddish-orange body with a pinky finger of well-retaining off-white head. It collapses into a moderate collar of large bubbles. Some trails of sticky lace are deposited down the sides. I like more clarity and lacing in my IPAs, but this is not terrible.

S: Wow, this is a good nose. I didn't expect much, as I hadn't heard of these guys, but the bouquet here is an aromatic blend of grapefruit, melon, lemon zest, and pine resin. Small caramel malt foundation. It could stand to be more aromatic; it takes a lot of swirling to bring out the particulars. But the profile here is well-chosen and quite nice.

T: Hop-forward, as the nose implied. Citrus flavors -- grapefruit, tangerine, lemon, melon -- dominate the front end, while caramel fleshes out the mid-taste. Candied pine and grapefruit coalesce in the finish, leaving a mild, lingering bitterness.

M: Medium-bodied, with good carbonation for the style. Some bitterness in the aftertaste; I prefer my DIPAs on the cleaner side of the spectrum, and I would agree that this falls in that range. The booze is fairly undetectable; I assumed this was a single IPA and was a bit surprised to see it is 9.5%. Only the mildest burn in the finish reveals its potency. This may be because the finish falls off a bit fast (giving the impression of hop juice); I think with a tightened up finish, this could be a real juggernaut.

O: This is quite a good beer. I'd put this on the level of Heady Topper; my first taste of Wisdom Seeker brought HT to mind. I prefer the slightly fuller body of this one (comparing against the Heady Topper bottles), though HT wins slightly on nose and flavor.

Serving type: bottle

11-22-2011 04:44:40 | More by Arbitrator
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thatoneguymike

Georgia

4.25/5  rDev +0.5%

06-01-2014 01:51:42 | More by thatoneguymike
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Adamostella

Washington

4.5/5  rDev +6.4%

07-20-2012 06:24:18 | More by Adamostella
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Hopmodium

Washington

4.25/5  rDev +0.5%

04-27-2014 02:59:04 | More by Hopmodium
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markgugs

New Jersey

3.75/5  rDev -11.3%

06-13-2014 23:32:42 | More by markgugs
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jmarsh123

Indiana

2.56/5  rDev -39.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 1.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Pours clear orange-ish color with a good cap of creamy white head. Good retention and a touch of lacing.

Very pine and resin forward. A bit of candied grapefruit as well with some floral notes. Good sticky and dank aroma.

And now the let down. Definitely leans west coast style although there is a bit more malt than in most in that classification. Starts out with a touch of citrus before it's enveloped by bready malts and pine. A weird sweet bread flavor clashes with the hops. Very astringent finish and every bit of the 9.0% ABV shines through then some. Booziness is overwhelming by the end.

Sticky medium body with medium to low carbonation. As mentioned, does nothing at all to hide alcohol.

Not sure why this beer is getting glowing reviews. In my opinion, it's a decidedly below average DIPA. The aroma is very intriguing, but the taste is an absolute mess. 9.0% feels like 12.0%. I've never had a DIPA that seems to add ABV before. There's also a weird sweetness that clashes with the alcohol. Decent hop profile, but is lost behind the booze. Ended up pouring some down the drain as it got to be too much. Very let down by this one.

Serving type: bottle

05-07-2013 17:14:32 | More by jmarsh123
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Wisdom Seeker from Black Raven Brewing Co.
93 out of 100 based on 119 ratings.