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Piper Down Scottish Ale - Ballast Point Brewing Company

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Piper Down Scottish AlePiper Down Scottish Ale

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66 Reviews
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Reviews: 66
Hads: 302
Avg: 3.62
pDev: 22.65%
Wants: 17
Gots: 86 | FT: 0
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Ballast Point Brewing Company
California, United States | website

Style | ABV
Scottish Ale | 5.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 06-15-2003

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Reviews: 66 | Hads: 302
Photo of THSdrummer
3.76/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a rich deep plum color, which almost looks black in low-light situations. The head is medium-thin and foamy, with a mild amount of lacing. Roasted malts and caramel notes in the aroma. Smooth malt biscuits open up the flavor palette, which also includes a hint of toffee and caramel. Mouth feel is so-so. Not as full bodied as I'd hope for, but still pleasant. A bit on the watery side. Overall, this is a pleasant beer. Not the greatest renditions of scottish ales, but certainly not something to turn your nose up at.

Served in a 12oz snifter.

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Photo of Beejay
3.06/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: A ruby brown color with a large tan head.

S: Roasted grain, caramel and brown sugar.

T: There is a certain sweetness to this, and very subdued. Fairly light roasted malt, with notes of caramel and cream.

M: Medium light in body, with moderate carbonation, there is a little cling in the finish, but not nearly as rich or thick as what a standard Scottish would be. There is definitely a very English flavor to this, but almost too mild for the style. Almost like a more robust brown.

O: Overall it is tasty, but not necessarily what I think of when I think Scottish Ale. There is almost a softness to it, that I think is in opposition to what this beer should be.

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Photo of JuicesFlowing
4.01/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into a shaker pint glass.

The beer is a beautiful dark copper color with a tan head that recedes quickly to a light film. Lacing consists of random small dots. The aroma is sweet and the caramelized malts really shine. Toffee, caramel, and sweet bread comes to mind. The beer is as sessionable as any 5.8% beer I've ever consumed as it has a nice sweet maltiness with a lot of caramel but is then followed with a nice subtle tangy finish. The mouthfeel is medium to light in body, it goes down very smooth.

Overall, this is really good, it's my kind of beer. On the sweeter side, but balanced.

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Photo of Chandango
3.8/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Very new to this style of beer, so I may amend this review after tasting more scottish ales, but as a general beer drinker, this is pretty good, with lots of 'slightly' aspects. It pours a deep amber brown color, with a slightly off white head that disappears quickly. It smells slightly sweet, roasted malts, a bit nutty that also comes through in the first tasting. It's got a nice balance of sweetness, with the slightest hop finish (kind of wish there was just a bit more actually). Overall a drinkable beer and pretty good beer

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Photo of AgentMunky
3.68/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a Teku glass.
4/3.5/3.75/4/3.5
Gorgeous Ruby clear with faint caramel head.
Smells English and metallic and malty. Vaguely fruity.
It tastes good! Fruity, yes; amberish. A little Apple-caramel. Clean, round sweet finish. Good, but not as good as the pumpkin variety.

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Photo of SSS
3.59/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-Brown with a reddish head disappears quickly
S-Scotch notes but very subtle
M-Light mouthfeel
T-Watery taste that is not too complex
O-A decent beer, but no more.

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Photo of LXIXME
3.29/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Great burnt amber reddish color sits below a minimal off white head without any lacing sticking to the glass.
Weak Scottish tasting beer was a bit off setting since the aroma has a decent Scottish sweetness to it.
I'm usually a fan of Ballast Point stuff but I'll have to wait for the new and improved version of a Scottish Ale from these guys before I try it again.

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Photo of Mitzvahman72
3.3/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Malt forward with a bold dark red, it boasts a slightly dry, slightly fruity balance with a slightly sweet, slightly roasty taste. It also has a slightly acidic aftertaste that makes it not as similar to Karl Strauss’ Red Trolley Ale. There isn't any peat taste found in this beer! However, you will find it in Sprecher Brewery’s Piper’s Scotch-style ale, Ale Smith's Wee Heavy and even Belhaven Brewery’s Wee Heavy. A good non-peat Scotch ale will be the Kilt Lifter from Moylan's Brewing Company in Novato (Don't let the not-so-classy beer name discourage you. This is a good beer!)

Meanwhile, I recommend going for the pumpkin version of this beer called the Pumpkin Down. It really improves on the overall design of this beer!

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Photo of Jimlikesbeer
3.5/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Not really a scotch ale to me. Good taste though, just not what I was expecting. Caramel with just a hint of sweetness. No hop after taste. I agree with some of the other reviews that this is more of a bock style of beer. Great product for the price.

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Photo of thehooksman
3.91/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

I admit I'm not very familiar with this style. The others I've had seemed to be quite heavy in that Scotch whiskey peat flavor. This one, on the other hand, is not. From tap into a pint glass, it was a clear, deep red-brown with a finger of creamy off-white foam that lingered for a bit. The aroma was sweet malt, caramel, and nuts. The flavor struck me as just a really good Bock, but with a small hint of smoke and peat in the aftertaste. The mouth was medium and smooth. I'd definitely have this again.

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Photo of Beer-Revelry
2.97/5  rDev -18%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.75

This scotch ale just didn't do it for me, and I expected better from Ballast Point. The aroma and taste reminded me more of a slightly smokey bock than a scotch ale and the flavor had a distinct metallic flavor that killed it for me. One of the worse scotch ales I've had. To fans of the style, I cannot suggest this brew,

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Photo of arizcards
3.79/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Picked up a bomber from TW Arrowhead in late May for $4.99. No intelligible bottling date.

Beer poured brown with a nice tan head that dissipated quickly.

Nose is light caramelized malts.

Taste is dominated by those caramelized malts, light sweetness but enough hopping to keep the taste nicely balanced.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and pretty smooth.

Overall a very tasty brew that is true to the Scottish Ale style. Definitely give it a shot if you are into this type of brew!

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Photo of Trooper92292
3.75/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Regardless of the score, I really enjoyed this. First of it's kind I've had but it's definitely something I want to buy again and have with my friends.

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Photo of russpowell
3.5/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Pours an effervescent crimson with a pinky of cream colored head. Stays effervescent,
Okay head retention & lacing

S: Faint brown bread & leafy hops

T: Brown bread, a little smokeyness, & faint leafy hops up front, some caramel as well. Pears & apple skins as this warms, more caramel & smokeyness. Finishes a little fruity, slightly sweet, & with faint smokeyness & leafy hops, plus slight dryness, faint brown sugar notes

MF: Light/medium body, fairly firm carbonation

Drinkable, but I would take an Odell 90 shilling any day. Granted it is a little weaker
Not a bad take on the style, a little over-gassed, just doesn't impress style-wise

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Photo of MUSHROOMCLOUD
3.59/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Clear, clean brown - red against the light, small head - no retention and little lace.
Malty, toffee, a little spice in the aroma.
Brown sugar, light spice, dark fruit and very little bitterness but not overly sweet either,
Easy to knock back and not easy to recognize as a Scottish Ale.

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Photo of tigg924
3.96/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Taste is peat, toffee, and toasted malt. There is a nice smokiness that lingers throughout. One of the better Scotch ales I have had recently. Worth a try, especially on tap.

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Photo of ElJacobian
4.03/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I don't understand why most of the ratings are so low - this is a great ale. If you are expecting a bunch of hops and tropical flavors then I could see why you'd be disappointed. The color is a great dark ruby, like a chocolate cherry dr pepper. Not too much of a smell but I'm getting a lot of toffee. The taste is wonderful - dark fruits, heavy toffee, caramel and malt. Very bold, heavy beer that is well balanced in my opinion. This is probably one of the best dark ales I've had.

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Photo of Totalpackage411
3.65/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

This is a good beer, not a great one. It is one of the better ones I've tried from Ballast Point. The beer goes down smooth and tastes good, a pretty basic ale.

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Photo of RyanK252
3.77/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle poured into a BarrelHouse Brewing Co pint glass

A: Pours deep ruby brown with a frothy khaki brown head that settles and laces lightly.

S: Roasted malt, toffee sweetness, and dark fruit.

T: Roasted malt, a hint of coffee, dark fruit, cherry and plumb, earthy hops, and toffee sweetness.

M: Light to medium body, moderate carbonation.

O: Pretty drinkable, but nothing super special.

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Photo of beergoot
3.31/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Deep, brownish-red colored body; massive, lightly off-white head; thick, gently rolling carbonation bubbles. Gently sweet, mild caramel scent. Light caramel malt flavors; fair hop bitterness, especially at the finish. Light to medium body; a bit watery for the style; mostly dry finish.

Overall, a rather disappointing beer. It lacks the depth and complexity of a malt-centric Scottish style, being generally weak and unimpressive overall. No, I wasn't looking for a heavyier Scotch ale styling here, but I did expect a richer feel and presence overall. The flavors and mouthfeel come across weak-kneed and insipid, with little malt boldness within the taste or feel. A relatively surprising dud from Ballast Point...

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Photo of Fatehunter
3.85/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pours a finger of head on a dark straw body.
The aroma is caramel, candy and brown sugar. Rich but nice.
The taste has a good dose of malt but maintains a good balance not letting the sweetness run wild. Caramel mostly.
The texture is thicker with low carbonation.
Nicely done.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.73/5  rDev +3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

a fine tasting example of the style, but its the feel that throws me a little on this one. cool to have a beer from these guys thats neither hoppy or real dark and intense, seems those make it to the market less. this looks thin for what it is, more caramel than brown in color, but with a nice inch of khaki creamy head on top of it, quite clear too. the nose is fine, a touch of peaty smoke and molasses sweetness under a drying european style yeast strain. the flavor matches the nose almost exactly, but add just a dab of vanilla, and an unexpected hop bitterness like green tea on the back end. its not as heavy on the smoke and roasty malts as the style usually is, which is fine, but the feel being so light i think is a turn off. i need a little more meat to these, and while i like the idea of a session type scottish, it just doesnt really pan out here. still, the quality of the beer is enormously high, like all ballast stuff, and i like the unique mellowness of the malt bill. cool beer, but i prefer their hoppy stuff quite a bit more.

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Photo of KevChiTown
3.45/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Disappointed. I really like Ballast Point and I think they rep west coast styles so well, but damn did they miss the bus with this. English pub ale. Almost generic Totally misses the Scotch Ale style for me.

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Photo of brewskifan55
3.62/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a taster glass at a bottle share

A: Dark brown with a tan one finger head that lingers. Thick lacing.

S: Heavy malts with a side of toffee, caramel and light peat.

T: Follows nose with a smooth, malty/caramel ride. Peat really didn't pop up on the taste. Smooth, sweet, but not as much umph as other Scottish ales.

M: Lower carbonation than I was expecting. A light mouthfeel. And I feel this is what brings the whole experience down a notch.

O: A great price for a bomber. A sessionable ale to share with friends. Just nothing exciting, unlike so many other Ballast Point creations. Worth a try at this price.

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Photo of barnzy78
3.59/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle, nice fair bomber price of $3.99 - what a bomber should be.
A - brown colored ale with a persistent, dense, beige head
S - malty nose with toffee, caramel, grain, earthy peat
T - malt forward but nice balance and easy drinking with notes of caramel, toffee, toasted grain, earth, spicy hops, peat
M - light to medium body, modest carbonation
O - what I'd expect for a Scottish ale. I'm not sure I'd buy it again, but glad to try it. If it was a dollar more I wouldn't have bothered.

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Piper Down Scottish Ale from Ballast Point Brewing Company
82 out of 100 based on 66 ratings.