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White Birch Oak Senex Torva Saison - White Birch Brewing

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Ratings: 31
Reviews: 12
rAvg: 3.7
pDev: 12.7%
Wants: 3
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
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White Birch Brewing visit their website
New Hampshire, United States

Style | ABV
Saison / Farmhouse Ale |  11.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: barleywinebrewer on 08-10-2010

With this batch we aged our Saison for an extended period of time on oak chips with a special brettanomyces strain. The result is spicy and tart, with mild fruit notes and a crisp dry wild finish.
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Ratings: 31 | Reviews: 12
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look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

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3.53/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle into an oversized wine glass at around 40 degrees.

A- A little too dark for the style, more of a faded umber color w some haziness.

S-Green Apple, faint barnyard, Grassy

T- Very pungent and tart at first sip, much more like a wild ale than a saison, fades almost to a dark fruitwood flavor, a little oakiness but no smoky spiciness that I typically expect form a good oak farmhouse ale.

M- Quite pungent and full of Brett feel, tingles the tongue, and is really quite prickly overall.

O- This is not a bad beer but the brett has a way of taking the sweet/spicy characteristics of the Saison away and rendering the beer off kilter, still an interesting beer but not really balanced enough for my taste. Maybe if I was expecting a little more of a American Wild ale, but for a Saison it doesn't really work.

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3.75/5  rDev +1.4%

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3.75/5  rDev +1.4%

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4.25/5  rDev +14.9%

Photo of Brewsephus
3.05/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.25

Poured from a bomber into a Duvel tulip glass.

A- Slightly hazy yellow corn color, head sticks to sides of glass and never really forms aggressively, and dissipates quickly. Small/medium carbonation bubbles.

S- Green apple, fresh cut grass, light biscuit.

T-Unripe apple, tart fruit, very faint saison yeast character, a little horse-blanket but not a lot; you really have to search for it. Finishes with a little vinegar and nail polish.

M-Slightly flat, thin.

O- I really wanted this beer to be great. I love White Birch's Berliner Weiss and hoped it would have some of the same qualities. It seems to lose much of it's Saison flavor in lieu of the brett, which is unfortunate. It's not a bad beer by any means, but I would see this as one of the beginning steps on the way to developing a great Wild Saison. It has the right flavors to be glorious on a hot summer day, and is very refreshing. I am dissapointed because my hopes were so high, but this beer is very solidly average. It's JUST good.

EDIT: I just realized this beer is 11% ABV. There is not a hint of alcohol, in fact, it feels like a very low ABV beer. Kudos to the brewer.

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3.68/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle (spring 2013) to fantome tulip

A: orange honey like color with no head or lacing and little carbonation. It is pretty much opaque and cloudy but you can see a little bit standard for being aged though.

S: there is a funky smell that definitely reminds me of Brett but is less farmhouse like and much more fruit like a peach or something like that. There is also some grain and bread like smells but the fruit juice is over powering.

T: it is tart upfront but not super strong. From there similar to the nose there is a very fruity juicy flavor, but I can't quite place it peach or mango is as close as I can get but it's neither of those maybe cantaloupe. There is definitely some funk in there too not quite full on horse blanket but it is noticeably Brett as you can tell its not normal.

M: first off there is basically no carbonation in this beer which basically kills the feel for me. That being said it has a juicy feel that is smooth and goes down pretty easily. Though because of the lack of carbonation the funk gives almost an off putting feel.

O: overall this beer really isn't that bad but the mouthfeel kills it for me the lack of carbonation muddles everything and is unpleasant to drink. It does not totally ruin the beer as there are some good flavors but nothing special it might be worth a try but for $16 I won't be back for more.

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3.75/5  rDev +1.4%

Photo of johnnnniee
3.71/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled July 5 2010 Batch One
An oak age wild saison at 11.2% abv, sure why not! Ten minutes wrestling with the cork and we can finally get to enjoying this brew. Pours a crystal clear golden orange color with a decent sized bone white head that slowly dissipates to a cap on top. I can smell the fruity funkiness as soon as I pop the cork. Plums, apples, lemons, wet cardboard, horsey, funky, there's a lot of aromas coming at me here. Taste is very tart with flavors of lemons and tart cherries mostly. Slightly sweet malt, but not nearly as funky as the nose suggested. Medium body with a healthy dose of carbonation with a sweet tart kind of mouthfeel going on. Not to shabby for a sour ale that no longer resembles a saison. Abv is not evident at all.

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3.95/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

CooperEllis hit me with this one in a trade a while back... shared with the boys at a tasting a long while ago... reviewed from paper notes. #3/102

Pours a clear deep golden... good white head and lacing.

Nose is dirty brett with oak and a nice lemon punch.

Flavor mirrors the nose with a light maltiness... good lemon and barnyard brett... the oak is more tannic than anything else.. some mild fruity phenols make me think apricot and white peaches.... underripe pears.

Body is light/medium with a good carbonation.

No hints of the ABV... seriously +10%, I don't buy it.. but I am not complaining.... This is probably my favorite White Birch beer thus far... and I've had quite a few of them.

John is an awesome trader... I always appreciate his business :-)


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3.25/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A-pours a cloudy pale yellow with a cremy thick white head.

S-the nose has a strong bit of brett up front with notes of lemon and a light funk. not quite integrated and seems a little young.

T-again strong brett, notes of leather and some barnyard funkiness behind. there is some typical lemon and citrusy flavors but all muddled and hard to decipher.

M-light body, somewhat oily with lighter carbonation and a semi dry finish.

D-this has a big brett presence and I do enjoy brett but the beer itself doesn't seem to integrate well with the brett as the hops and saison yeast play strange roles.

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White Birch Oak Senex Torva Saison from White Birch Brewing
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