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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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938 Ratings
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Ratings: 938
Reviews: 441
rAvg: 4.28
pDev: 8.88%
Wants: 573
Gots: 215 | FT: 23
Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003

Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%
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look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2010.

Dark brown, but still translucent. No head. Flat. Aroma is pure oxidation. Cardboard and wet paper. Some caramel and little earthy wood. Taste is more of the same, but worse. Oxidized beyond enjoyment. Caramel, wood, toast, burnt sugar. Medium bodied and alcoholic. mild bitterness.
Not sure what the big draw is on this beer. I've had it a few times now and have never enjoyed it.

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look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bottle (2011)

Acquired via trade
Thanks, whartontallboy!

(Aged for 1+ year)

Very dark brown throughout. Even the edges are the darkest of browns. There is effectively zero visible carbonation after an aggressive pour. A few large bubbles appear at the center/top of the liquid, but effectively, this looks still. I suppose this is the only disapointing aspect of this beer, but the appearance becomes altogether meaningless after tasting this.

Fantastic aroma, though the flavor is even better. The aroma is a wonderful combination of melted caramel candies, chocolate covered marshmallows, maple syrup, and an earthy/honey sweetness. Complete and expressive.

An absurdly good (non barrel-aged) old ale. There is so much complexity here, usually found only in beers of this style that have been barrel-aged. Layers of dark fruits, caramels and toffees, mild chocolate and marshmallow, and maple sweetness coat the tongue. The alcohol is remarkably well hidden. I haven't had the opportunity to try this beer fresh, but I'm happy I sat on this one for the length I did.

Medium bodied with very low carbonation. Slightly chewy, coating, oily. Lovely and decadent.

My favorite of a favorite style. Perfection. Looking forward to opening the barrel-aged one next.

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look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A. Extremely dark brown. No light comes through. Very limited, tan head and no lacing. Almost seems like a deep liquor.

S. Very nice malty, nutty scent. Thick. Caramel in there.

T. That is arguably the smoothest beer I've ever had. Beautiful toffee blended with a floralness. Nice nut taste. There's a cotton-candy taste to it. Love it.

M. Nice sweet tingle.

O. Certainly this is the best ale that I've ever had. Absolutely the smoothest most wonderful ale I've tried.

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2013 Vintage

Appearance: dark brown with reddish hues. almost opaque in color. a small, half finger of a tannish head that fades slowly to nothing.

Smell: first i get malts, sweet toffee, caramel, slight molasses that comes through. vinous flavors. oxidized dark fruits. very sweet but not grossly.

Taste: strong sweet malts at first some caramel and toffee, more subtle molasses and a very slight roastiness play in. the end consists of dark fruits, quite vinous in taste. the flavors are very oxidized and show the age well. quite a bit of alcohol comes through without being astringent or off putting.

Mouthfeel: thick, chewy, leathery, and sticky. lots of alcohol warmth. sweetness and alcohol balance nicely. feels strong probably close to what it is but is in a suitable balance.

Overall: This beer is exactly what I look for in a big beer, its flavors are intense and it pushes the style guides to the extreme but stays with the constraint (besides gravities and alcohol).

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look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Fairly aggressively poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a Kuhnhenn branded snifter (thanks to Czar_Chasm for both)

Pours a deep, dark amber capped with a two finger semi-fizzy light beige head. Fair retention, no lacing. A lot of booziness on the nose in addition to huge dark fruit and caramel notes. Caramel, dark fruit specifically black cherry, hints of toffee carry through the very boozy finish. Full bodied with a syrupy mouthfeel which sticks a bit to and coats the inside of the mouth. An excellent brew which is one of the strongest abv old ales I've had. However, the booziness works with this sipper as it is fairly well-balanced even though it trends on the sweeter side. A perfect after-dinner beer and also plays well as a nightcap.

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 938 ratings.