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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)

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BA SCORE
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809 Ratings
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Ratings: 809
Reviews: 436
rAvg: 4.28
pDev: 9.11%


Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%

(Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003)
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zac16125

South Carolina

4.68/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle poured into a snifter
2011 Vintage

A big thanks to muskiesman for sending this one over in a trade

A: Pours a somewhat viscous opaque very dark brown, almost black, with no head to speak of, only a slight outer ring so small I can't even determine the color.  Leaves effectively no lacing.  

S: Big aroma.  Dark fruits with fig, raisin and date notes, woody oak aroma even though this is not the barrel aged one, hints of bourbon, black licorice, a small amount of booze, and a hint of vanilla extract.  Awesome.  

T: Dark fruit sweetness up front in the form of overripe plum and fig, with lots of different flavors coming through on the back end including coffee, dark chocolate, and roasted malt. As it warms I get a big toffee character, which is great. I also pick up burnt toast, some vanilla, a nutty character, and a subtle hint of booze that only comes out towards the end of the glass. This is well balanced and so complex, taking your palate through multiple flavor levels with each sip.  Really fantastic, bordering on perfect.  

M/D: Smooth, about as full bodied as you can get, with appropriately low carbonation, and a sticky, somewhat chewy mouthfeel.  Coats the palate nicely, and has a whole body warming characteristic.  Amazingly, I get almost none of the massive 13.5% ABV, either on the nose or the tongue, impressive!  Even with the ABV masking, it's still a sipper due to the thick consistency and massive flavor profile, but that's how big old ales and barleywines should be, and all things considered the drinkability is actually quite good.  

O: Wow, what a beer.  Not for everyone, as this is a big, bold brew. But if you are a fan of the style it's an absolute must try.  Does this beer get better with barrel aging?  I'm not sure it can, as there isn't much room for improvement, but I can't wait to try the BB4D and find out.  Highly recommend.  

Serving type: bottle

05-06-2012 03:33:34 | More by zac16125
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amicar

Missouri

4.7/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours into a nice tulip glass at the brewery, chestnut colored and thick- looking. The smell is complex with a musky caramel and roast malt smell. Taste is heavenly- evolves over a few minutes from a smooth, somewhat sweet caramel and roast malt to a musky and oh- so slightly vaguely herbal flavor with malt predominance. Really beautiful in the mouth with just the right amount of heat. It was easy to slow down and enjoy this beer over an extended period of time, given the number of flavors going on here, and even easier to order another. Not necessarily easy to get off the stool and walk home without stumbling, though at 9.5%. So worth it, though.

Serving type: on-tap

08-22-2005 19:34:52 | More by amicar
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RonfromJersey

New Jersey

4.7/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Best before 2011 ?

Dark brown/black body with ruby highlights. Held up to the light it looks like a goblet of blood. Small tan head collars the glass and clings a half inch up from the surface. Tempting.

Filthy rich aroma includes mocha, licorice, some fresh bread, tons of fruit, and big floral notes. Delightfully complex even if I can't identify all the elements.

Taste is ...wow. The mocha java from the aroma is here, intwined with some wonderous caramel. Sweet and alcoholic but not cloying. Some dark fruits plum about the surface. Big hit of cherry.

Mouthfeel is halfway from medium to thick, and feels damn fine. Drinkability...this is a sipper, because its good enough to slowly savor, you won't want the bottle to end.

My first beer from Kuhnhenn. Lived up to all the good word. Not demented to say this is damn good.

Serving type: bottle

08-26-2006 04:27:19 | More by RonfromJersey
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claspada

New Jersey

4.7/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Adding 2009 edition, sampled 2/9/12.
Aromas are the same minus the musty, oxidized qualities.
The tastes are identical and equally as enjoyable as I remember. Dark fruits and light cocoa dominate.
Mouthfeel is crazy coating and amazing.
Overall, I love this beer, considering moving to Michigan to have direct access every time this is released.

Adding 2007 Vintage tasted 1 month after 2005.
The pour had more more evident carbonation/head retention.

Aromas begin with light chocolate. with the below sweet and fruity malts as well. Less of a musty, earthy, leathery presence. Less sweet toffee and more dark chocolate.

The tastes are fairly close to the previous with lots of dark chocolate and dark fruits. Baker's cocoa becomes more apparent as it warms. Zero alcohol tastes or aromas here. This further verifies my beliefs that beer needs to be consumed within 5 years.

Mouthfeel is super full with medium carbonation; much much more than the 05 I had a couple weeks back. Glorious full finish, luscious almost.

Overall I think this beer is at it's peak after 4 years, the 6 year version showed signs of breaking down but this is freakin' epic. I am adjusting my original ranking to reflect this 2007 perfection. Although this is much more chocolatey and cocoa forward than I expect in an Old Ale, it is still probably the best example I have ever had. I just love that dark, bitter, fruit balance.

Sampling 2005 vintages of Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D).
Aromas start with deep dark caramelized brown sugar maltiness and sweet toffee as well. Cocoa and dark dark cherries become quite apparent as this opens up. Lesser notes of leather and earthy/musk in the background with some inevitable alcohol as well.
The tastes follow the nose to a tee. Loads of dark caramel maltiness coupled with equal amounts of toffee sweetness and dark brandy soaked cherry flavors. Lesser notes of cocoa and earthy/leather on the back end (much less compared to the initial flavors mentioned above). Alcohol bite is non-existent which makes sense after 5+ years. Molasses and dark fruits (figs and dates) linger on the palate now that this is room temperature.
The mouthfeel is medium-full bodied with low carbonation, which I usually hate but it works here. Chewy and finishes mildly sticky.
Overall, this is a great old ale; a bit heavy for the style in the dark malt/cocoa flavor profile but absolutely still delicious. Brandy soaked toffee covered cherries is a single sentence descriptor. This has aged superbly and shows no signs to deterioration even after 5+ years.

Serving type: bottle

06-16-2011 23:26:46 | More by claspada
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avalon07

South Carolina

4.7/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a murky brown color and a thick consistency. There was a very thin, foamy head that quickly dissipated. Not much lacing to speak of.

S: A big, warm aroma of malt, caramel, molasses, alcohol, and some spices.

T: Tasted like it smelled: Lots of caramel and molasses, some malt, and assorted spices. Alcohol is noticeable, but not overwhelmingly. This is a very complex, extremely flavorful beer.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a smooth, silky finish. Full-bodied.

O: This is an excellent example of an Old Ale. A well made beer all around.

Serving type: bottle

07-30-2011 12:09:38 | More by avalon07
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BrainDad

Michigan

4.7/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Hopcat. Six bucks for a glass of heaven!

Looks a beautiful deep amber. Like Churchill's snifter waiting for a cigar to get going. Not much head but with lacy lacing down the side.

Not a lot of aroma to be found but the flavor is smooth and brandy-like, slight sweet (others liken it to marshmallow). Rolls perfectly off the palate and down the throat.

A great sensual experience to savor. Thank God I live in Michigan!

Serving type: on-tap

02-25-2012 01:44:00 | More by BrainDad
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korguy123

Ontario (Canada)

4.7/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Most recent batch into Kuhnhenn snifter/tulip (They call it their "Belgian" glass)

A- Super murky, almost black pour with just a thin light tan ring around the glass. Lacing is spotty but the alcohol just grips the glass.

S- Wow, okay... where to begin. Huge brown sugar, vanilla, plum, raisin with a nice coffee, chocolate and molasses sweetness in the back. Slight leather and tobacco. The alcohol is super hidden. I don't know if this makes sense but is smells syrupy and sticky.

T- My goodness... Massive raisins and dates and figs, followed by huge char taste of toast and tobacco. Coffee and chocolate followed by vanilla, brown sugar and molasses. The finish is bitter and something I would describe of grape skins.

M- Like I guessed in the aroma it's syrupy and sticky. Heavier than medium bodied, super low carbonation with a touch of alcohol warmth.

O- This is something I've been wanting to try since I found out about Kuhnhenn. It really doesn't disappoint. After driving all through Michigan and stopping there before leaving the country I was happy to get 4 of these AND 4 of the bourbon version. I love this and can't wait to try the other.

Serving type: bottle

04-11-2012 23:26:22 | More by korguy123
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DrJay

Massachusetts

4.72/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Very slightly hazy, very dark, ruby red colour topped by a light tan head that showed very good retention and left thick lacing on the glass. Intensely malty aroma with rich caramel and toffee, molasses, and a hint of vanilla. The dark, ripe fruitiness becomes a deep vinous aroma with noticeable alcohol character as it warms. Malty sweet flavour to start, it just gets more and more complex. Caramel, toffee, molasses, and ripe fruits are strongest initially, with a bit of oak, vanilla, and nuttiness underneath. Bitterness comes forward part way through and a very light hoppiness appears towards the end, but it remains very, very restrained. The finish is a combination of caramel sweetness and warm alcohol flavour. Full, chewy body that stops just short of being syrupy, with moderately low carbonation. This is a very fine beer, made with exceptional craftsmanship. Definitely the stand-out offering that was available at Kuhnhenn during my visit.

Serving type: on-tap

05-25-2005 02:39:41 | More by DrJay
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mentor

Colorado

4.72/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Hand-carried home to Colorado by my lovely wife. How cool is that. Pours a thin layer of tan head over a clear red-brown liquid. During the pour is smelled chocolate and sweet riding a clean alcohol. To the nose it's plum, raisin, toffee, cherry. Similar to a belgian dark without the phenolic edgy funk. Leather, oak and tobacco. Really inticing...this has *got* to taste delicious.

Tastes phenomenal. Chocolate, brown sugar, nutty, toffee, with hints of sherry. A bit of plum, fig, vanilla and some caramel. Woody dry. Almost comes across as oaky. But wet sweet while in the mouth due to the thick body. Hot from alcohol, but not a bit of alcohol flavor. Dry aftertaste has a rough grassy character that I think comes from the alcohol. Thick mouthfeel with very modest carbonation. This beer was wonderful as a snipper. I would eagerly accept another.

Serving type: bottle

07-07-2006 02:35:47 | More by mentor
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sweemzander

Illinois

4.72/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle poured into a snifter. 2009 Vintage.

(A)- Pours a cloudy dark brown; almost black color. Produced a tan, almost orange head that is sticking to the sides of the glass.

(S)- A near roasted richness and sweetness of fig, raisin, vanilla, toffee, caramel, butterscotch, honey, and somehow plum. A wood-like dryness in the background. A rather rustic profile with a touch of nuttiness in between the malts. The best smelling Old Ale I have ever enjoyed. Rich and sweet with a big complexity to it.

(T)- Again, a dense monster of rich malts. The smell describes the taste perfectly.

(M)- Dense and rich, but is fitting of the style. A good carbonation level and a great balance. Sweet and malty as hell, but has a light level of bitterness, dryness, and heat to not make it over the top. It also has almost a roasted character to the background.

(D)- A fantastic Old Ale. Sweet and rich and dense, but in the best way. Has an awesome malt profile. A superb example of the style. The more I have of it, the more I like it. Usually the style is too hot for my taste, but this one hides its 12.5% well.
Tastes awesome now, but age will be kind to this yet. It did take me awhile to finish the bottle though, but this one you gotta sip; complex and silky sweet.

Serving type: bottle

06-04-2010 14:30:08 | More by sweemzander
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JamnesCameron

Illinois

4.72/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Received this 2010 bottle from fear025 in my Birthday BIF box. Thanks Jay!

Poured into a snifter. Pours a deep garnet with barely any head.

Aromas of dark fruits, figs, raisins, prunes. No hop aroma to speak of.

Flavors of deep rich, concentrated dark fruits, like a jam made of raisins, figs and prunes. Sweetness on the edge of being cloying. Reminds me of port wine.

Mouthfeel is big, chewy, syrupy and oily. Just a hint of carbonation.

Overall, an excellent big brew. Lots of rich flavors meld well together.

Serving type: bottle

06-27-2011 01:54:52 | More by JamnesCameron
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Thehuntmaster

South Africa

4.73/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

355ml bottle 13,5% ABV
Served lightly chilled in an over sized wine glass.
2011 Vintage

Appearance: 4D pours thick and viscous and appears dark brown in the glass. The body is almost opaque, but a strong back light reveals deep red and then golden along the edges. A very rough pour only yields a few small tan coloured bubbles that can hardly be called a head. A swirl coats the glass in a thick yellow-tinted film and leaves heavy alcohol legs.

Smell: Oh man, now this is what I call a nose! Massive and super sweet (just as I like it). The initial nose consists of dark treacle, caramelized brown sugar, toffee, a touch of chocolate and two notes that I usually only associate with bourbon barrel-aged beers - toasted marshmallow and toasted coconut. As the beer warms, the nose become amazingly complex with notes including: Raisins, preserved figs, an earthy quality, a touch of leather, molasses and a very unexpected hint of Bamberg smoke.
There is a hint of the 13,5% noted in the nose, but it is wonderfully integrated with the other notes.

Taste: As expected, the initial flavour is quite sweet, with notes of dark treacle, dark caramel, toffee, sweet dark fruits (raisins, prunes and figs), toasted marshmallow and a little molasses. This is followed by an earthy character and a touch of chocolate. The finish is mildly bitter and prevents the sweetness from becoming cloying.
As the beer approaches room temperature, the dark fruits become more prominent, with dates also being noted.
As in the nose, a touch of the 13,5% is noted, but I feel it is an integral part of the flavour.

Mouthfeel: I am sure that most people would call this under carbonated, but for me it is just about perfect - very low level and ultra smooth. The body is full and quite sticky.

Overall: 4D is a phenomenal old ale, I will certainly be buying a few more bottles as soon as I get the chance and trying my best to trade for some of the bourbon edition. Highly recommended for any lover of big, sweet beers.

Serving type: bottle

07-20-2012 09:06:41 | More by Thehuntmaster
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blackthistle

Michigan

4.75/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. brown bottle; brewed on 08-01-04, best before 2010; $2.79 for single bottle

Pours an almost opaque deep ruby color with orange/amber tints around the edges and a thick creamy head that dissipates slowly and leaves beautiful yet sparse lace on the sides of the glass. The aroma is mostly caramel sweet with some sherry, raisin, and molasses notes detected along with just a hint of spiciness from the hops. The flavor here is all malt. It is a sweet caramel malt flavor with just enough noble hops bitterness to balance this big boy out. There are some hints of raisin, sherry, molasses and brown sugar along with some alcohol warming. This beer is big in the mouthfeel department, smooth, creamy and chewy all the way to the end. The flavors will linger on your tongue long after the beer is gone... and that is a good thing! Now this is my kind of beer!

Serving type: bottle

07-19-2005 20:55:31 | More by blackthistle
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IntriqKen

California

4.75/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This may be the sweetest desert beer I have ever had.
Poured a deep, deep dark brown with amber tones.
Aromas are caramel, dark chocolate, dark fruits like raisins, plums, burnt sugar (brown sugar?), and sweet alcohol.
Mouthfeel is slippery creamy smooth with light carbonation.
Taste is an amplification of the smell. Sugar, caramel, brown sugar, raisins, plums, stewed prunes, and sweet alcohol. Maybe a little toasted malt.
Aftertaste is sweet dark fruits with a comfortable warming.
This is an incredible desert beer.

Serving type: bottle

10-26-2006 03:49:47 | More by IntriqKen
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rhinos00

Colorado

4.75/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Received this long time want from Eric (viggo) in the Gentlemen's Club BIF. 2007 Vintage. Poured into a snifter.

A- Pours a very dark brown with shades of maroon throughout. Very little clarity. Produced a fingers width of off-white head. Over time dissipated into a thin ring around the glass.

S- Malt explosion. Lightly smoked malts, along with toffee and caramel scents. Also picking up a bit of vanilla and barrel as well. The barrel I'm noticing gives the beer a slightly nutty attribute.

T- Oh man, just heavenly. Easily one of the best beers I have had in a long, long time. For a few brief moments an oak barrel, malt flavor lingers on the palate. However, a wave a vanilla, caramel flavors just transform this beer into something so beautiful. Almost like Vanilla Bean DL except the sweetness was not as overwhelming. This beer finishes sweet, but not as sweet as say Dark Lord or Darkness. Just perfect.

M- If there was ever a beer that matched the mouthfeel with the taste perfectly, this was it. Medium bodied, but was silky and smooth. Left some residual stickiness on the palate.

D- I could have put this down so quickly, but I tried to savor each sip. Didn't even notice that this was close to 12%abv.

Overall, this beer, particularly this vintage, is just ridiculous. All I can say is that if you have 2007 Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia, send them to me ;^)

Serving type: bottle

11-15-2009 04:47:29 | More by rhinos00
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

4.75/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Fourth Dementia has all the qualities of world class English Barleywines but with a lighter and evaporative body that makes it seductivley drinkable.

The beer pours a rich mohogany hue, moderate haze and a creamy barley stained head. Good lacing and light legging make this one masculine and handsome beer.

Rich aromas of deep molassas, sorghum, toffee, and stone fruits make a dramatic and pronounced impact from the nose. Rum and fruitcake notes give as much complexity as you can expect any one beer to hold.

Succulent flavors of molassas, charred toffee, peanut brittle and brandy show up front. Plumbs, figs, dates, raisons, bruised cherries, and prunes show a well-aged estery mix throughout. Sweeter rums, fruitcake breadiness and light chocolates also add to the complex matrix of the beer. Moderate aged notes of sherry and soy make their way into the savory mix and with pin-point precision in the beer's balance. Absolute complexity and variation with supurb balance and error-free in this 2-year vintage.

I expect a thick and syrupy texture that would be similar to the J.W. Lees and Thomas Hardey's but the beer's light dryness and ample carbonation lifts the beer off of the tongue and away from the palate- allowing for a cotton candy evaporation that is both satisfying and seductive, leaving me wanting the next sip far too soon for a nearly 12% beer.

Fourth Dementia tastes as rich and deep as any big beer but with the drinkability of a 6% beer. This equals danger with me.

Thank you waltonc, you sir are a class act!

Serving type: bottle

02-27-2010 04:09:32 | More by BEERchitect
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EgadBananas

Louisiana

4.75/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Big Thanks to JJFoodie for this amazingness!

A - Pours a wonderful garnet color, with a minimal sized head, tan/yellow in color. Left a surprisingly nice amount of scattered, bubbly lacing.

S - Huge malty notes, lots of sweetness; candied dark fruits, toasted marsh mellow as the label predicts, almost chocolaty.

T - Sweet, but not cloying. Complex rather. Big sweet dark fruits, lots of malts, that toasted marsh mellow again and again with the chocolaty finish. It's complex to the point that it makes description a feat.

M - The feel is viscous, with a viscosity that rivals some stouts. There's an almost chewiness to it, naturally full-bodied, but the finish is clean. Carbonation level is easily next to none, giving way to a wonderful creaminess.

D - You can't smell or taste the alcohol in this monster, but it does create a bit of warming that lets you know that it's there. Drinkability is dangerously good due in part to that, but you'd be wise to limit yourself to one. (Un)Luckily for me, I had but 1 bottles, so I shall be forced to stop at that.

Wonderful Old Ale.

Serving type: bottle

06-16-2011 02:02:02 | More by EgadBananas
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4.78/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

12oz. bottle, brewed 2/16/05.

Hazy initially, but cleared considerably even as I drank. Dark brown, with lots of ruby highlights. Small, creamy, light brown head. No lacing, but quite leggy.

Chocolate& caramel greet the nose. Some roast notes (faint). Smells very rich. Just a bit of tartness, cherries, I think. Dark fruits, plums, raisins and figs. Smells like a malt bomb!

It is! It is! It is a malt bomb! And I'm damn happy to be the target! Sweet, almost port-like in taste. Dark fruits and chocolate come out first, followed by some caramel. Roast notes, again quite faint. Alcohol there, but well hidden. Tea flavors. Herbal bitterness at the finish, more noticeable in aftertaste, provides just a bit of balance.

Heavy and coating in body. Low to almost no carbonation. Alcohol warming present with first sip. Very rich and smooth. Touch of drying near finish, probably related to alcohol content.

Not really sure how something like this could be improved! I'm a certified hop head, but this malt bomb was one of the most delicious beers I've ever drank.

Serving type: bottle

10-08-2007 14:37:18 | More by
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gonzo46and2

Florida

4.78/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Received in a trade from Hoppymeal.

Pours a deep mahogany brown with notes of red. Nice fizzy head despite the age.

Smell is very malty with dark fruits dominating. Cherries, figs, some toasty grain.

Taste is very nicely balanced sweet but not too sweet.

Mouthfeel is fantastic. It's got body but some of the softest carbonation that really lit up the palate.

Easily one of the best sippers out there.

Serving type: bottle

06-27-2009 00:22:52 | More by gonzo46and2
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rye726

Colorado

4.78/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours a rich, dark mahogany with a silky tan head and nice lacing.

Nose has figs, plums, cherries, chocolate, toffee, caramel, honey, pecans, and brandy. Simply superb.

Taste is just as complex. Flavors of port, dark pitted fruits, carmelized candies, nutty malts and cognac.

Full creamy body is delicately carbonated. Long, lasting finish.

Near perfect example of the style. Will age well fro years to come.

Serving type: bottle

11-30-2009 02:36:21 | More by rye726
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ehammond1


4.78/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bottle (2011)

Acquired via trade
Thanks, whartontallboy!

(Aged for 1+ year)

Very dark brown throughout. Even the edges are the darkest of browns. There is effectively zero visible carbonation after an aggressive pour. A few large bubbles appear at the center/top of the liquid, but effectively, this looks still. I suppose this is the only disapointing aspect of this beer, but the appearance becomes altogether meaningless after tasting this.

Fantastic aroma, though the flavor is even better. The aroma is a wonderful combination of melted caramel candies, chocolate covered marshmallows, maple syrup, and an earthy/honey sweetness. Complete and expressive.

An absurdly good (non barrel-aged) old ale. There is so much complexity here, usually found only in beers of this style that have been barrel-aged. Layers of dark fruits, caramels and toffees, mild chocolate and marshmallow, and maple sweetness coat the tongue. The alcohol is remarkably well hidden. I haven't had the opportunity to try this beer fresh, but I'm happy I sat on this one for the length I did.

Medium bodied with very low carbonation. Slightly chewy, coating, oily. Lovely and decadent.

My favorite of a favorite style. Perfection. Looking forward to opening the barrel-aged one next.

Serving type: bottle

01-02-2013 01:48:01 | More by ehammond1
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BGDrock

Ontario (Canada)

4.78/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

Appearance: no head (might be the glass though), foggy dark brown like an americano

Aroma: fascinating, mystifying - raisin, prune, rich complex port; just beautiful!; perfume - slightly floral, over-ripe fruit like apple that's gone brown and rinkled (in a good way)

Taste & Mouthfeel: thick and oily; burnt caramel of the deepest kind, vanilla - like a more intense creme brulee; just a hint of burn in the finish - which goes on for days with simmered dark fruit flavour; hints of coffee bitterness; over time the alcohol becomes more prominent, as well as chocolate, coffee, burnt flavours, but still masterfully balanced with fruit and caramel

Overall: love when a beer has a undefinable, complex flavour that keeps you coming back for more, trying to reason what makes it so good - this is that and more; a must have and probably great aged a few years

Serving type: bottle

08-11-2013 17:10:19 | More by BGDrock
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Lothore

California

4.83/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A- Pours a deep scarlet hue carrying a small coffee head.

S- The smell is amazing and I know i'm going to blow it on the description but i'm going to try anyway. Sweet bready malt up front followed by an intoxicating dark fruit armoa, figs, possibly hints of plum which lead into a subtle hop afterthought.

T- The taste seems to be the inverse of the smell, some hops up front followed by a gentle wave of dark fruit which sweeps the palate and carries an alcohol warming with it. After that wave ebbs, a hop bitterness lingers. I am definitely going to get my hands on another one and let it age for a year or two. By far the best old ale i've ever experienced.

M- Thick with an ample amount of carbonation for the style.

D- This was such a delight to drink it is almost indescribable. I definitely would not be in the mood for this all the time but on a cold winter night I can think of nothing better.

Serving type: bottle

02-08-2008 02:47:56 | More by Lothore
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jjayjaye

New York

4.83/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a cloudy dark brown color with better than a full finger foamy light tan head, leaving sheets of lacing in its wake. The smell is amazing. An aggressive dark fruit fig and sweet molasses aroma. I'm REALLY taken in by the smell to the point of distraction; maybe i ought to take a mouthful. Wow, what a kick in the pants!. The mouth feel is first very creamy and medium large bodied. The fig of the nose comes through really strong in the flavor then its overwhelmed by an intense molasses taste. Quite sweet. The 9.5. ABV is warming to be sure. I'm not finding that level of alcohol distracting. I'm assessing the weight to be something that i wouldn't session (if i had a frig full of them...which, i don't), but I find it a cinch to drink and I'm savoring the balance as best I can. Lightly carbonated, there is plenty of the alcohol coming through on subsequent mouthfuls and the dark fruit character is lingering nicely. This one is unique and imaginative to be sure; BRAVO!Thanks a lot for the trade Matt.

Serving type: bottle

02-09-2008 20:25:43 | More by jjayjaye
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coldmeat23

Oklahoma

4.83/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

GLASS: Snifter
TEMP: Poured at approx 42 degrees, warmed to room temp
VINTAGE: 2007 (12.5%abv)

This pours up a deep, yet vibrant, ruby/garnet color with some dark amber highlights. A very thin film of tan/beige foam forms the head, which never really leaves. It's small enough to hang around and not have to worry about diminishing, but at this abv level, I wouldn't expect much more of a head than this. The lacing is filled with tiny little spots which are sticky enough to fight against the oily-ness that coats the sides of the glass and drags them back down to the liquid surface.

This nose is deep, rich, and very complex. Loads of maple and dark fruit notes. Good hints of vanilla. Red grapes and a slight earthy/mustiness. Hints of black currants and a slight trace of cotton candy sweetness. Candied apple notes. Lots of caramel richness and sweet notes of brown sugar. Light hints of wood notes. Earthiness of dark molasses. As expected, it has an almost port like quality to it, overall.
An amazing nose, even in the realm of Old Ales, where noses are commonly amazing.

Initial taste is a malted milk bar, dipped in maple syrup. The earthiness comes forward to balance out the sweetness, which is still here, but somewhat muted. Still lots of dark fruit notes, along with some maraschino cherries and ranier cherries on the back end. Minor notes of green vegetables touch the mid-palate. Very nice presence of salted caramels. Lots of wood presence. Minor earthy hop notes. Lots of dates and figs, along with some light notes ohfmolasses and tobacco.
Overall, this is very rich, deep and complex. As far as old ales go, this is absolutely one of my top faves.

Very much a full-bodied brew, with a slightly oily feel to it. Low carbonation level, which works very well for it. Very smooth and a tiny touch of creaminess. Almost silky.

This is extremely drinkable. Very smooth and delicious. Just be careful of that high abv. You don't taste it, but you will certainly feel it after just a little bit of time goes by.

Serving type: growler

07-28-2010 21:04:35 | More by coldmeat23
Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 809 ratings.