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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D)

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808 Ratings
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Ratings: 808
Reviews: 436
rAvg: 4.28
pDev: 9.11%


Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%

(Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003)
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rudylaw

Illinois

4.28/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap @ GTOM

This was another one of my 'must try multiples of' beers. But, I only got one, but dude filled mine to the top.

In the sun, it's a brown looking ale with red highlights. Some head, but it's gone in a flash.

Smells like a Christmas fruit cake! Tastes like it too, but I'm getting hints of truffle, caramel and oak as well. It goes down fairly smooth. Makes me long for the holidays and cooler weather.

I had about 3.5oz in my serving and I was sated. Fantastic stuff and would love to spend 90 minutes with a full 12oz one day.

Serving type: on-tap

08-10-2009 12:51:48 | More by rudylaw
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kels

Virginia

4.15/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I stopped by Kuhnhenn's on a recent trip to Detroit. There were so many great beers on tap it was hard to choose just one. Frank at the bar said this was his favorite, so I went with it. Here's the review.

Appearance: Pours a deep brown with ruby highlights. The short tan head is retained as a skim and leaves pretty impressive lacing clinging to the tulip glass. Liquid appears viscous.

Smell: The smell is seriously strong of alcohol and syrupy malts. I know I could be easily overwhelmed - it's going to take me a little while to get through this one.

Taste/Mouthfeel: The taste is a mouthful of super-sweet syrupy malts, chewy raisins and prunes and toasty bread. The alcohol is clearly pronounced, and the strength of it seems to grow as the beer warms. The feel is heavy and viscous.

Drinkability: I know Old Ales aren't supposed to be easy to throw back, but this one posed an exceptional challenge for me. I drank it very slowly over the course of an hour and a half (and it was only a 10oz pour!). Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed taking it slow and noticing different things in the beer as it warmed, but it's definitely a good beer to limit to one in a session.

Serving type: on-tap

02-01-2009 09:26:35 | More by kels
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Atron67

Wisconsin

4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Alright in not one to review from but this was one of the first beers i had. it came a copper red with a solid head of tan color that stuck around with solid retention. extremely malty and very thick but not overwhelming for the consumer who understands what they are getting into. thick creamy very full bodied, had a very strong lingering character on the tongue, and an extreme maltiness. as stated above, very thick and creamy, slight fruit notes to it. heavy actually pretty smooth and very tasty.

Serving type: on-tap

08-09-2008 22:51:59 | More by Atron67
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Pointman

Michigan

5/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

By far one of the greatest beers ever made. It is too bad this place doesn't get more reviews.

The Fourth is the best they make.

Pours very dark in color with a nice off tan head. Has almost a molasses type color too it. If you have ever had sorgum, you'll know the color.

How do give a beer the rich caramel, molasses, chocolate, leather and velvet taste and flavor? I don't know how the brothers do it.

This is a big beer, where the ABV is covered nicely. I have to limit myself to one per visit. It finishes strong & smooth.

I have 12 bottles, so I will give them a taste once the K-brewery runs out....carry me over until next December...

Serving type: on-tap

Serving type: on-tap

03-08-2008 00:21:20 | More by Pointman
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cooncat

Ohio

3.58/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Serving was on tap at the Brew Kettle's 2008 Ogre Fest (Strongsville, OH.)

Appearance is a deep garnet color of good clarity. Minimal head and lacing, which is to be expected for a beer of this strength.

Unfortunately, this was not served in the proper glassware to extract a good sense of the true nose. What I got was light, but decidedly fruity with faint notes of alcohol. The taste is of dark fruits; raisins and plums come to mind. Supposedly, this has a 30 IBU rating, but those hops are completely hidden by the full bodied fruitiness of the sweet malts. The sweetness is almost to the point of being cloying, but doesn't cross the line ... but only by the closest margin. The sweet fruity flavor last to the end, at which time the alcohol makes a showing in some warmth. This is hard to make out as an Old ale, when it is so close to a Strong Ale and/or a barleywine. The sweetness would make for a fine after dinner drink, but I don't think you could do more than one.

An interesting offering, and Kuhnhenn certainly has produced yet another 'extreme' beer in the 4th Dimentia. Worth seeking out and trying.

Cheers

Serving type: on-tap

02-17-2008 15:47:45 | More by cooncat
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atsprings

North Carolina

4.55/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at Tyler's In Durham, funny, this makes 4 out of 5 reviews of this beer now that state that! Served in a Kuhnhenn tulip a nice deep ruby brown with a decent head that diminished to a ring and left a slight amount of lacing. The aroma was dominated by burnt caramel. The taste was a wonderfully complex blend of dried fruits, burnt caramel, molasses and loads of barley. The beer is very heavy, but gets much smoother as it warms, more taste comes out as well, this one is certainly a sipper. This was an extremely wonderful beer, but it's certainly a sipper. I'm just hoping we see bottles of it here in NC.

Serving type: on-tap

12-13-2007 04:16:09 | More by atsprings
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CWiggins

North Carolina

4.18/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

According to a tech sheet, provided by the bartender at Tyler's in Durham, the ABV for this brew is 13.5%.

I was given a sample of this beer by the bartender during my lunch visit to Tyler's this afternoon. Wow! What a beer! Old Ales are certainly favorites of mine, and this one ranks at the top of the versions I've sampled.

It came in a Kuhnhenn tulip glass, and was less than a pint; I'd guess it was 10 ounces. The color was dark brown, and the beige head was one-finger in width. The latter was short-lived, disintegrating into a thin lacing of bubbles around the edge of the glass in less than two minutes.

Not much of an aroma, but hints of dark, ripe fruits and sweet malts do sneak through. Oddly, I also picked up scents of alcohol; that's one characteristic I rarely discover through the nose!

The flavor is incredible. There is the strong, unmistakable presence of sweet, dark fruits, but they're balanced well by the dark malts. Essences of toffee, coffee, milk chocolate, plum, raison, and caramel can be found here. I found the maple syrup at the finish just amazing. It took a few swallows to figure out just what I was picking up there, but, sure enough, it became fairly evident soon enough. An amazing combination of flavors that finishes a little on the dry side. A silky smooth texture, combined with a medium to medium-low carbonation really aids in the "drinkability" factor with this one.

I really need to have another glass of this before it disappears. This is a rotating tap at Tyler's, soon to be replaced with Creme Brulee Java Stout by the same brewer. Enjoy, but sip and take it easy!

Serving type: on-tap

11-28-2007 01:47:42 | More by CWiggins
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WeisGuy

New York

4.45/5  rDev +4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Had drinks at Kuhnhenn in Warren on Saturday night, but I'm enjoying 4th Dementia on-tap in Durham at Tyler's right now - strange. Served in a Kuhnhenn tulip.

a - very dark color, dark dark brown with slight burgundy highlights on the edges, big dense ivory head with very good retention considering the abv and awesome lacing - a truly beautiful beer

s - strong toffee and caramel aromas dominate the intensely malty nose, some dark fruits, raisins, plums in there as well, some booze

t - very intense tastes, big caramel and toffee up front, quite sweet and malty but not cloying, body has some rum-soaked raisin and plum, finish has more caramel and dark fruits with a nice amount of booziness and it's long-lasting

m - full-bodied, quite creamy and coating of the mouth, finish is fairly sweet, nice warming from the alcohol

d - this is definitely a sipper, but one I'd love to sip all night, taste is intense but you don't get tired of it

I'm not a big fan of Old Ales, but this beer is really amazing and very much worthy of the high reviews. Here's to hoping Kuhnhenn releases some more bottles at the upcoming release party so more BAs can enjoy this brew.

Serving type: on-tap

11-27-2007 17:55:57 | More by WeisGuy
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TurdFurgison

Ohio

4.65/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had on tap at the Kuhnhenn brewpub. I'd been wanting to try this beer for some time, and it lived up to its hype.

It was presented in a tulip-style chalice, showcasing the dark aubrun red beer with a thick, wet, and sticky tan head. Very nice looking, and the aroma wasn't as strong or barley-winey as I feared. It was malty and a little muted. Still very nice. The taste was almost doppelbocky, with rich and sweet malt flavors battling for dominance over the alcohol (13.5% based on the menu description). The malt flavors came through really nicely, and there was just a hint of alcohol burn. The mouthfeel was just as good, thick and chewy, it felt like drinking a meal. Very very nice old ale.

Serving type: on-tap

09-06-2007 22:48:59 | More by TurdFurgison
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sinstaineddemon

Connecticut

4.43/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

A - this renowned old ale pours a dark red into a tulip glass with a thick smooth tan head with the beer too dark to see any but slight hints of carbonation

S - raisins are the first sensation in the aroma, followed swiftly by toffee and vanilla, with some background hints of anise

T - the taste has the same elements as the aroma, dark sweetness like that of raisins or dates up front, followed shortly by the lighter sweetness of vanilla and toffee, these flavors start of not subdued, but without intensity, but the intensity grows as the taste culminates in a big finish

M&D - smooth and mellow for such a high ABV, flavors and mouthfeel entice with every sip, one of the easier 13+% beers i have had, quite a good job, worth the 700 miles

the new menu has this beer at 13.5%

Serving type: on-tap

08-28-2007 14:18:35 | More by sinstaineddemon
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bozebus17

Michigan

4.55/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

Had on-tap at the brewery.

Pours a very dark brown, almost black. There is an impressive tan head that doesn't last real long. I'm sure this is due to the high ABV. The lacing on the goblet is immense.

Smells very sweet; There are hints of caramel, toffee, and smokey notes. My mouth started watering at first sniff.

Tastes very very sweet. Roasted flavors are everywhere. There is a bittersweet finish. This beer is very creamy and heavy, almost a barley stew.

This is a great beer. It is the kind of beer that warms the heart and soul. I love it!

Serving type: on-tap

08-22-2007 20:13:38 | More by bozebus17
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grub

Ontario (Canada)

4.43/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

review number 400. woohoo!

sampled on tap at the brewery.

pours very dark brown with a nice very dense light tan head. the head drops very slowly and leaves a thick sheet of lace around the glass.

aroma is great. bit of alcohol. light roast. huge bread and biscuit malts. caramel. bit of dark fruit.

wow! taste is incredible. nice warm blast of alcohol initially, then the malt. tons and tons of malt. caramel. bit of toffee. bread and biscuits toasted with jam. date and a bit o fraisin. so delicious and complex. by about half way down the 10oz glass you start to feel the warmth throughout. layers of flavour in waves, almost too hard to pick each out.

mouthfeel is excellent. silky smooth medium-low carbonation level. nice big body.

drinkability is excellent. a sipper, no doubt, but something i feel like i could sip on all day. good balance between the malt and alcohol with minimal hop presence, just the way an old ale should be. another world class beer from kuhnhenn.

Serving type: on-tap

07-30-2007 16:45:46 | More by grub
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amicar

Missouri

4.7/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours into a nice tulip glass at the brewery, chestnut colored and thick- looking. The smell is complex with a musky caramel and roast malt smell. Taste is heavenly- evolves over a few minutes from a smooth, somewhat sweet caramel and roast malt to a musky and oh- so slightly vaguely herbal flavor with malt predominance. Really beautiful in the mouth with just the right amount of heat. It was easy to slow down and enjoy this beer over an extended period of time, given the number of flavors going on here, and even easier to order another. Not necessarily easy to get off the stool and walk home without stumbling, though at 9.5%. So worth it, though.

Serving type: on-tap

08-22-2005 19:34:52 | More by amicar
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stancpa

Michigan

5/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is what I call an after dinner beer. The taste is divine, taste like the beer version of a fine cognac, this is due to the high alcohol content of the beer. This is one of my favorite beers.

I am somewhat a world traveler and love to sample beer in various countries
so I have sampled a fairly large number of beers. I do admit the stout from Belgium was also divine.

Serving type: on-tap

07-20-2005 15:58:46 | More by stancpa
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francisweizen

Arizona

4.88/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

I was really excited to try this brew at Kuhnhenns since I never got to try any of the bottled batches, and now I hear that there recent bottles of this are not doing to well as it is. Anyways, this one came in a lovely Balloon glass, the colour was dark bloody red/black, but not quite opaque. Head was light khaki and lasted for quite a while providing the glass with some lovely lacing patterns as well. Aromas are impressive, old ale notes of raisins, figs, other dark fruits and residual sugars, molasses, brown sugar, etc. hops are leafy and good in this mix, malts are dark roasty and hella complex. Middle is doughy and fruit with a rum raisin sort of kick to it that really does it for me. Finish is leafy hops and dark patent malts with some caramel hints, and a somewhat wet and drying contrasting finish that makes this exceptionally drinkable. Just a totally kick ass old ale from a brewery that is really drawing lines. Awesome stuff.

Serving type: on-tap

07-19-2005 19:14:50 | More by francisweizen
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ahking

Michigan

3.93/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Piney, citrusy, and fruit punch aromas attack your nose. Super smooth and malty with enough hops present to remind you this is beer. Deep ruby/mahogany colors. Full and chewy mouthfeel.Very tasty ale; I want to drink more, but high ABV prevents that. I really like this beer. True testament to how good it is: I would drink this beer warm and flat!

Serving type: on-tap

06-02-2005 23:44:08 | More by ahking
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DrJay

Massachusetts

4.72/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Very slightly hazy, very dark, ruby red colour topped by a light tan head that showed very good retention and left thick lacing on the glass. Intensely malty aroma with rich caramel and toffee, molasses, and a hint of vanilla. The dark, ripe fruitiness becomes a deep vinous aroma with noticeable alcohol character as it warms. Malty sweet flavour to start, it just gets more and more complex. Caramel, toffee, molasses, and ripe fruits are strongest initially, with a bit of oak, vanilla, and nuttiness underneath. Bitterness comes forward part way through and a very light hoppiness appears towards the end, but it remains very, very restrained. The finish is a combination of caramel sweetness and warm alcohol flavour. Full, chewy body that stops just short of being syrupy, with moderately low carbonation. This is a very fine beer, made with exceptional craftsmanship. Definitely the stand-out offering that was available at Kuhnhenn during my visit.

Serving type: on-tap

05-25-2005 02:39:41 | More by DrJay
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Gaisgeil

Michigan

4.68/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

An exceptional old ale, no doubt there whatsoever.

Straight from the tap at the Kuhnhenn pub, lucky me! Poured a dark and caramel toned amber in color with a thin tan head. Nose was a bit sweet, but also a bit smokey and woody at the same time. Had a very strong presence. Taste is gorgeous, complex and delicious. Stewed fruit, smoke, wood, heavily estery but with a delicate yet strong alcohol bite. Bits of spice, reminded of a spiced tobacco somehow also made appearances. There were so many layers going on here which became more and more evident as it warmed a bit. Carbonation was on the medium side, nearly perfect for this brew.

I was really impressed with this one, I'll definatly have to go back and get some more before too long.

Slàinte!

Serving type: on-tap

04-11-2005 17:45:26 | More by Gaisgeil
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CRJMellor

Arkansas

4.33/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours chestnut and mahogany with a thin but big, bubbly, tan head. Minimal lace on the glassware.
Aroma of orange, deep caramel and some lightly roated barley notes. Darker fruit notes of raisins, figs and dates also emerge as it warms. Some peat and maple syrup like note also emerges
Flavor of sweet chocolate, peaty and smoked notes. Some dark citrus fruits with a hint of orange peel, sweet brown sugar and some mulled spices. Faints of leather, wood and tobacco magically appear as it really warms. Delicious but only when warmed.
Mouthfeel is full but hyper sweet cut by some roasted notes and a scotch-like peat alcoholic tone.
Drinkability is very good. Excellent, tasty beer but the hyper-sweetness makes one enough. Poured at least 10-15 degrees too cold. If you get one, leave it on the bar top, try another brew and come back to it. It'll be ready.

Serving type: on-tap

09-07-2004 00:49:02 | More by CRJMellor
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mikeys01

Colorado

4.88/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Served on tap at the fantastic and unassuming Kuhnhenn Brewery. This beer was highly recommended by the illustrious Venom and it did not disappoint. The Dementia arrived to us in a beautiful tulip glass. Color is a deep ruby that is so dark it's almost black. Capped with a foamy, ruddy brown head that fades quickly but leaves a satisfying lacing for the duration. Aroma is way out there and in your face, bold as can be, plump full of raisin, plum, and oh so sweet caramely malt. Body isn't quite heavy, making it dangerously drinkable for a reasonably potent brew. Flavor is complex like one of those jigsaw puzzles in which all the pieces look alike, it's almost indescribable. I get elements of chocolate toffee, fermented raisin, caramel, and molasses out of this rich dark beauty. Just a slight drip of maple syrup as well. Phenomenal for sipping or drinking in moderation, you're longing for more when the glass is empty. There is a nice warmth in the finish and just a bit of bitterness on the back and sides of the tongue, also unveiled are soft creamy vanilla and woody notes. This brew has a very old/vintage ale character for a beer brewwed this year, a masterful creation. This is a top shelf brew, do not miss the oportunity to enjoy this one!

Serving type: on-tap

08-18-2004 02:04:33 | More by mikeys01
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jayb

Iowa

4.63/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

First (and hopefully not last) visit to kuhnhenn. Served in a 12 oz tulip glass. THICK, dark brown, bordering on black with a rich, tan head that settled to a film and clung to the sides of the glass. Very intense aroma. dark chocolates, peat, soy sauce, nuts, also very estery, and a prevailent earthy smell. Offered a taste to my sister, says it tastes like dirt. Taste was of (once again) rich bitter chocolate, mixed dark fruits, nuts, and peat. Also a whiskey or bourbon-like quality. Had to sip this one. Mouthfeel was full bodied and slick. alcohol made its presence known quite well. This is what i have been missing all these years. A definite eye opener. Such a flavorful brew, very fine work from those at Kuhnhnenn. Far and away the most interesting and intensely flavored brew i have had to date. Delightful.

Serving type: on-tap

08-09-2004 18:15:20 | More by jayb
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rlee1390

Indiana

4/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-Clear ruby amber, not much carbonation one finger off white head

S-Malt heavy, caramel, dark fruits and raisins.

T-Very sweet with caramel and molasses, lots of dark fruits. Balance is slightly off

M-Medium to heavy not much carbonation

O-Was expecting a lot better, glad I was able to try it but was not my cup of tea.

Serving type: bottle

04-11-2014 19:23:41 | More by rlee1390
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ThickNStout

Georgia

4.61/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle from IAmJacksHopTongue (much apprecitaed!). 2013 bottling. Served in a Bruery snifter.

Pours an opaque chestnut with a minimal cap of pale head. Trace bubbles remain around the edges without leaving any lace to speak of.

Smells akin to a nice port. Dark fruit, caramel, toast and a faine wine-like alcohol note. Nice.

Taste follows the nose. Raisin, fig, caramel, burnt brown sugar, tawny port, toasted marshmallow, earthy vanilla and a little booze. A splendid ensemble of old ale flavors that goes down dangerously easily for it's 13.5% abv.

Body is medium heavy and syrupy with light carbonation. A pleasant port, caramel and toasted marshmallow finish.

This is an outstanding old ale. Such richness and complexity set it well above most other examples of the style that I've encountered. This is a beer worth hoarding to enjoy over many years. Very highly recommended.

Serving type: bottle

04-01-2014 12:30:18 | More by ThickNStout
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Stevedore

Wisconsin

4.29/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle of the 2013 Winter Solstice release; poured into a Hill Farmstead stemmed glass alongside the 2013 Bourbon-barrel aged version in a separate glass, today, 1/15/2014.

Pours a fairly standard dark brown body with a fluffy tan head that dissipates fairly quickly. Looks like a barleywine, really. Nothing out of the ordinary. Lacing is non-existent.

Smells very sweet- lots of caramel, toffee and dark fruits- even more interesting than BB4D which is a beer where the barrel vanilla dominates so much- and is even a little more complex. Still, I am missing the vanilla even though I enjoy the complexity and intensity of this beer.

Flavourwise, very sweet- lots of toffee, butterscotch and molasses, which isn't cut by the oak and vanilla of the BB4D which kind of takes away from my experience with this beer. Still complex with a lot going on; I can see why some people prefer this to BB4D. I'm not one of these people, however.

Medium to full bodied, well carbonated and slick. Not terribly difficult to drink. Aftertaste is mostly a dark fruity butterscotch flavour; different than the BB4D.

BB4D is definitely a better choice than regular 4D; given it was only a dollar more, I wouldn't bother with 4D; but 4D is a great beer in its own right so if you have the option to get it alongside BB4D, I would definitely recommend taking it. I can see why some people prefer the 4D to the BB4D.

Serving type: bottle

01-16-2014 06:00:24 | More by Stevedore
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StoutHunter

Michigan

4.38/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I got a bottle of Kuhnhenn's Fourth Dementia 4D as an awesome birthday present from my friend Ben. I'm a big Kuhnhenn fan but since they are still a pretty small operation I only see their beers at Beer Festivals or at some of the better bars and I don't get a chance to try their beers as much as I would like to, but I've been wanting to try 4D ever since I first found out about Kuhnhenn, so lets see how it goes. 2013 Vintage, 13.5%. Poured from a brown 12oz bottle into a snifter.

A= The label looks pretty nice, it's just got a fancy and classy look to it with some shiny gold 4D on the label, it's the best Kuhnhenn label I've seen since most of them look like they printed on a standard computers printer. It poured a pretty cloudy and murky brown color that didn't let much light through and it looked even murkier when held to the light with a half of fingers worth of tan/off white head that quickly faded away to nothing and it left a really small amount of spotty lacing behind. This isn't the greatest looking beer, just by looking at it in the glass it isn't that attractive, but it's not so bad looking I wouldn't give it a try, I don't think any beer can look that bad.

S- The aroma starts off with a higher amount of sweetness that had a slight molasses aroma to it followed by loads of malts being the first to show up and they impart some great caramel and toffee aromas with a pretty good amount of dark fruits showing up next with no single fruit seeming to stick out the most. Up next comes a sweet and noticeable boozy aroma followed by a little bit of roasted malts on the finish that give this beer a rich, lightly roasted and light chocolate like aroma and there's also a light leather like aroma. This beer has a very nice aroma, I think it's fairly complex and I thought the different aspects worked well with each other.

T- The taste seems to be pretty similar to the aroma and it starts off with a higher amount of sweetness which seems to be on the lower side, it's not cloying and imparts a slight molasses like flavor followed by some great caramel and toffee flavors with an equal amount of dark fruits that show up also with no single fruit seeming to stick out the most. Up next comes a slight leather flavor with a pretty light alcohol flavor that is very well hidden and it's not nearly as boozy as I thought it would be. Towards the end comes a light tobacco like flavor with some roasted malts showing up at the end with a light chocolate flavor and a lower amount of bitterness with a caramel, toffee, dark fruit, and light roasted malt aftertaste. This was a very good tasting beer that was pretty complex with some expertly hidden alcohol.

M- Fairly smooth, a little sticky, pretty rich, a little creamy, full bodied with a lower amount of carbonation that worked nicely with this beer. This beer had a very good mouthfeel that was pretty much perfect for this beer.

Overall I thought this was very good beer and very good example of an Old Ale, Bell's Third Coast Old Ale was my favorite Old Ale, but I have to say after trying this I think 4D blows it out of the water, not that Third Coast Old Ale isn't great, 4D is just pretty much better in every aspect besides price and it's just a more intense and complex version of Old Ale that is just as smooth, maybe even smoother than Third Coast Old Ale which blows my mind. This beer had great drinkability, the 13.5 wasn't nearly as noticeable as I thought it would be, it was fairly smooth, complex, rich, a little sticky, pretty filling, and the taste did a great job at holding my attention, I think one bottle would be the perfect amount for me and if I had the chance I would could probably drink two, but I'm sure i would be feeling it in the morning. What I liked the most about this beer was how well the alcohol was hidden, it seriously blew my mind that a 13.5% Old Ale could be this smooth, I'm very impressed by that and I thought the taste was awesome. What I liked the least about this beer was the appearance, it just isn't a good looking, which overall isn't that big of a deal and I learned a while ago to never judge a beer on it's looks. I would for sure buy this beer if I ever saw it for sale, it's pretty pricey but I think it's worth it and it makes for a nice beer for a special occasions. I would highly recommend this beer to anyone who likes Old Ales or big beers in general, I don't think this will disappoint. All in all I was pretty impressed with this beer, I expected good things from this beer but all together it exceeded my expectations and I think it's an overall great beer and I would love to try the barrel aged version of this one day and I'm pretty sure this would be a great beer to cellar and I think it could get even better with time. Great work guys, I think the Kuhnhenns are simply the best at what they do and this is a world class beer, keep up the great work guys.

Serving type: bottle

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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 808 ratings.