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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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868 Ratings
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Ratings: 868
Reviews: 439
rAvg: 4.29
pDev: 9.09%
Wants: 553
Gots: 203 | FT: 26
Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%

(Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003)
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Photo of Justin_Neff
4.18/5  rDev -2.6%

Bottle (2011)

Thanks zipper8650 for this one!

A: Pours dark brown - the color resembles maple syrup. A small collection of fizzy bubbles rise quickly, and they disappear even quicker, revealing a low amount of carbonation.

S: The nose is fantastic. Tons of caramel and toffee. Smells like creme brulee, but not artificial like many other dessert-smelling brews. Strong wofts of molasses and chocolate - especially as it warms. Figs and marshmallows finish out the whiff.

T: The predominant taste is toffee and sweet malts. Caramel, maple syrup, vanilla, dark fruitiness all bounce around to an extreme amount of noise, resulting in a very sweet brew. Every sip tastes a little different. I definitely get marshmallows, but its faint.

M: Very little carbonation. Full body. A mix between what I would describe as creamy and full of oils. Definitely something that is meant to be sipped. Better as it warms.

O: I was very nervous after the initial pour, but the complexity of this one and how it blended together was really great. Even after aging for over a year, it's a bit boozy, but it's decently hidden with all of the different types of flavors flying around. Would like to try fresh to see if that affected the pour and carbonation, and I'd also like to try to the barrel aged version to see how that adds another awesome element of complexity. All-in-all a great beer and I'll buy if I ever make it up to anywhere that has it on shelf.

Justin_Neff, Feb 26, 2013
Photo of yamar68
4.23/5  rDev -1.4%

Huge thanks to antlerwrestler19 for this one - 2011 vintage:

Such a raw looking beer. Deep, dark brown coffee body with an edge of ruby clarity that shows silky beading and a good amount of sexy legs and lace.

Gigantic dessert aromas explode from the glass... caramel, toffee, graham cracker, molasses, sweet grain... beautiful. It's a mellow sense of sweetness - it's not big enough to hide a big booze bill which is perfect because that wouldn't be necessary. The alcohol is surprisingly approachable; I don't know what keeps it in check. A touch of leather and s'more seem to do the trick.

A good amount of grape soda and tobacco surfaces on the palate. Some of that warming liqueur type flavor dries things up. Lots of toasted bread crusts and big grain flavors. There's a somewhat metallic finish that lingers over all of those surprisingly palatable malt notes. It's big. It's complex. It's tasty.

yamar68, Feb 25, 2013
Photo of peensteen
4.44/5  rDev +3.5%

Bottle from jprime, 2012 vintage

Deep brown colour, a little more than one finger of tan head, great retention also head lasted to basically the bottom of the glass, tons of white sheets of lace all the way down the glass, nearly perfect looking. Smell has tons of dark malt, sweet toffee and caramel, dark sugars and dark fruits, lots of cherry with some plum, just a bit of booze. Taste is sweet up front with caramel, toffee and sugars followed up cherry and fruit, some warm alcohol and vanilla, finishes lightly sweet and fruity, so very complex without ever being too sweet or boozy everything comes together very nicely here. Lightly carbonated, massive chewy body, big rich mouthfeel. Just awesome stuff here, so incredibly drinkable for something so rich and complex.

peensteen, Feb 25, 2013
Photo of supa0525
4.75/5  rDev +10.7%

supa0525, Feb 25, 2013
Photo of dbrauneis
4.19/5  rDev -2.3%

2011 Edition

A: Pours a cloudy and opaque very dark reddish brown in color with some brown and amber highlights along with a light amount of gentle visible carbonation. The beer has an extremely thin sudsy dark beige head that quickly reduces to a very thin ring of bubbles at the edges of the glass. Minimal amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Strong aromas of malts with some toffee sweetness and just a touch of cherry dark fruit.

T: Moderate to strong flavors of sweet malts with some notes of toffee and light to moderate amounts of cherry dark fruit. There are very light notes of lingering sweetness and almost no bitterness present. Light notes of alcohol as the beer warms up.

M: Just heavier than medium bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth with just a touch of alcohol warmth in the finish.

O: This beer has just enough sweetness and alcohol presence in this beer to make you want to slowly sip it (preferably on a cold winter evening by a fireplace) to enjoy.

dbrauneis, Feb 24, 2013
Photo of Danielr26
4/5  rDev -6.8%

Danielr26, Feb 18, 2013
Photo of BlurryVisi0n
4.29/5  rDev 0%

Served in an over-sized wine glass (La Trappe signature glass).

Appearance: A really dark almost opaque hazy brown. What kills me is the head, there is none. I can tell just by appearance this brew might lack carbonation. Head for what is is maybe 1/10', light tan.

Smell: Strong burnt brown sugar scent that is more aroma than anything else...it hovers your nose like heat to a flame.

Taste: What a strong alcohol taste this beer has granted the ABV level is well above average. Heavy molasses feel which makes you feel sweetness makes you think this beer was aged in bourbon barrels.

Mouth: Light carbonation and when it comes to an old ale I was expecting a little more, as far as stickiness is concerned this brew sticks like moth to a light. I put it down and pairing it with sharp cheddar cheese it just doesn't leave. Flat somewhat sticky very and for that I won't hate on quality.

Overall: Would I buy this again, I know the mouth feel isn't what it is supposed to be but this is a quality brew. it improves literally after every sip. Can't remember how much it costs, but F' it you only live once. Salud!

BlurryVisi0n, Feb 18, 2013
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4.29/5  rDev 0%

Trade from deyholla. Need to send him another box for these beasts. Bottle says Winter Solstice 2010, but also 2007 on the bottle. I am assuming this is the 2007 sold at the 2010 party. Got some age for sure. Poured Feb 16, 2013. Pours murky brown with no head. Aroma is sweet dark fruits and a bit of bourbon and slight vanilla (though this is not the BB version). Very sweet fig, cherry and grape flavor. Bit of caramel and some booze. Pretty thick mouthfeel. Nice beer, though on the sweet side.

Got my hands on a fresher bottle at a tasting on 8/2/14. Same look. Aroma is a nutty caramel malt, brown sugar, yum. Flavor follows with big molasses and brown sugar, caramel, and definite hazelnut or pecan/praline notes on the finish that really make this beer. A big beer but so yummy it goes down easy. This is awesome...I guess aging it for 6+ years is too much. Just fine as is when you buy it. Oh yea.

BMMillsy, Feb 17, 2013
Photo of GRG1313
4/5  rDev -6.8%

GRG1313, Feb 11, 2013
Photo of PsilohsaiBiN
4.31/5  rDev +0.5%

Appearance: Dark crimson with a 1/2 finger of tan head that fades to the perimeter after a few minutes.

Smell: Citrus, biscuity bread, strawberries, hops.

Taste: Biscuit like malt combines nicely with orange and some hops. This is a pleasure to drink for the abv. If I drank this blind and you told me it was 13.5 abv, I wouldn't believe you. Alcohol is masterfully hidden.

Mouthfeel: Not the most carbonated beer in the world but that's expected for the gravity.

Overall: Solid beer, would drink again. Looking forward to many more from Kuhnhenn.

PsilohsaiBiN, Feb 10, 2013
Photo of n2185
3.71/5  rDev -13.5%

A: pours a dark brown with half a finger of beige head that recedes into a thin ring with no lacing.

S: loads of caramel malts, vanilla, toffee, and sweet breads.

T: similar to the aroma, caramel and toffee dominate with sweet breads, vanilla, and a light alcohol burn. Somewhat Port-like.

M: thick body with low carbonation, this beer is sticky sweet.

O: a pretty decent old ale overall. It's a little on the sweet side with the high alcohol, but avoids being cloying.

n2185, Feb 10, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

itsthepleats, Feb 02, 2013
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4/5  rDev -6.8%

callmemickey, Jan 31, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

DmanGTR, Jan 28, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev -0.9%

dave122382, Jan 27, 2013
Photo of ZorPrime
4.31/5  rDev +0.5%

Received this one from a recent trade with liamt07. Cheers!

Viscous beer, brown in color. Head is very timid.

The nose is strong. Caramel malts, sugars, some rum. Vanilla is too faint initially. In the mouth, this beer explode... Full bodied. Very good. Some caramel notes with a good bitterness. Love this. This is a strong and complex beer. Needs time to fully appreciated this one. Amazing that they are able to make this. I prefer this one, than the barrel aged version. Both are good, but this one is better to me.

ZorPrime, Jan 26, 2013
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4/5  rDev -6.8%

afksports, Jan 25, 2013
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4/5  rDev -6.8%

MrVonzipper, Jan 24, 2013
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4/5  rDev -6.8%

Kelp, Jan 23, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

ejyoung, Jan 22, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

bobv, Jan 22, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev -0.9%

Franch, Jan 22, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev -0.9%

THECPJ, Jan 21, 2013
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4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

DarthKostrizer, Jan 20, 2013
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4/5  rDev -6.8%

ChrisPro, Jan 19, 2013
Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 868 ratings.