Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
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3.53/5 rDev -17.5%
4th D Olde Ale, bottle bought at Whole Foods Tribeca for $6.99.
Appearance: Poured into my Lost Abbey chalice, 4D pours flat like a motherfucker. No head, no carbonation, no lacing, no retention. You know the drill. This is 4D for you.
Smell: As in the bourbon-barrel version, the nose is the winner here. Intense aromas all around! Chocolate, booze, port wine. Raisins, some nuts, cola-flavored chewing gum.
Taste: Follows nose, but the flatness kind of ruins the experience. A ton of chocolate, stickiness, heavy sweetness. Pedro Ximenez. Some musty hops around. Dark fruit, caramel. Vinous qualities. Overwhelming after a while.
Mouthfeel: Pretty bad, as in the BB version. Flat, hot, sticky, unbalanced. Zero carbonation. Burning booze.
Overall: I like the BB 4D, but regular 4D really doesn't have it. It is a sweet-and-booze bomb that is begging for some balance and complexity. I love old ales (Old Stock!!) but really can't deal with this on a regular basis and probably won't buy again.
05-13-2012 03:41:44 | More by DoubleSimcoe
4.23/5 rDev -1.2%
2011 Vintage poured in to Founders tulip.
A - Murky dark brown with a very small amount of light brown head.
S - A huge caramel malt sweetness up front accompanied by toffee, molasses and brown sugar. The ABV is very well hidden. Reminiscent of a barley wine.
T - A big sweetness up front with dark caramel, toffee, brown sugar and molasses flavours. The middle offers a bouquet of dark fruit, raising, dates and sticky candy-like flavours. The finish brings back the sweet toffee and caramel with just the right amount of warming alcohol present.
M - Full bodies, silky and smooth. Light carbonation. An exceptional mouth feel.
05-08-2012 01:43:04 | More by TheSevenDuffs
4.68/5 rDev +9.3%
12oz bottle poured into a snifter
A big thanks to muskiesman for sending this one over in a trade
A: Pours a somewhat viscous opaque very dark brown, almost black, with no head to speak of, only a slight outer ring so small I can't even determine the color. Leaves effectively no lacing.
S: Big aroma. Dark fruits with fig, raisin and date notes, woody oak aroma even though this is not the barrel aged one, hints of bourbon, black licorice, a small amount of booze, and a hint of vanilla extract. Awesome.
T: Dark fruit sweetness up front in the form of overripe plum and fig, with lots of different flavors coming through on the back end including coffee, dark chocolate, and roasted malt. As it warms I get a big toffee character, which is great. I also pick up burnt toast, some vanilla, a nutty character, and a subtle hint of booze that only comes out towards the end of the glass. This is well balanced and so complex, taking your palate through multiple flavor levels with each sip. Really fantastic, bordering on perfect.
M/D: Smooth, about as full bodied as you can get, with appropriately low carbonation, and a sticky, somewhat chewy mouthfeel. Coats the palate nicely, and has a whole body warming characteristic. Amazingly, I get almost none of the massive 13.5% ABV, either on the nose or the tongue, impressive! Even with the ABV masking, it's still a sipper due to the thick consistency and massive flavor profile, but that's how big old ales and barleywines should be, and all things considered the drinkability is actually quite good.
O: Wow, what a beer. Not for everyone, as this is a big, bold brew. But if you are a fan of the style it's an absolute must try. Does this beer get better with barrel aging? I'm not sure it can, as there isn't much room for improvement, but I can't wait to try the BB4D and find out. Highly recommend.
05-06-2012 03:33:34 | More by zac16125
3.75/5 rDev -12.4%
this is a huge beer at 13.5% and the alcohol is there, but is not an issue. It's mostly just warming in the chest. Flavor is intensely complex with all the variations of maltiness: caramel, toffee, butterscotch, and molasses. Hints of chocolate and tootsie roll as well. Lots of residual sweetness.
I'm not sure what I think of this. I'm generally very iffy when it comes to malty brews in the old ale/barleywine category. I dislike most, but absolutely love some. And so i keep buying them. Not sure where I fall here. It's one where I don't think I can personally appreciate everything it brings. This is a true malt lovers dream though, and as I mentioned the complexity is impressive.
04-26-2012 02:48:06 | More by Blanco
4.15/5 rDev -3%
2009 vintage poured into my CBS snifter. It poured a murky dark brown color with just some faint traces of a head clinging to the edges of the glass.
The aroma has a lot of dark fruits to it with some prominent notes of raisin and fig coming through as well as a touch of cherry. A little sweeter, caramel malt flavor is there along with some alcohol.
The taste shows more of a sweeter component to the dark fruits with the cherry and caramel assuming the lead role. A little of the raisin and fig like flavor that was prominent in the aroma comes through in the finish. I get a bit of chocolate to it as well. The alcohol is a little better hidden in the taste as well.
The mouthfeel is medium bodied for the style with carbonation being moderate. Overall, it's a very good beer with some really nice, bold flavors to it. It's little boozy and sweet at times, which prevents it from being truly great though in my opinion. Overall A very solid beer to sip on this evening though.
04-26-2012 01:12:47 | More by billab914
4.13/5 rDev -3.5%
A: Nice dark brown slightly cloudy beer with minimal head.
S: The aromas of toffee, caramel, almond and mocha.
T: The taste of mocha and brown sugar, very sweet.
M: Good carbonation and quite syrupy.
O: Long finish.
This beer was brewed in 2011.
04-25-2012 09:35:27 | More by DARIVA
3.75/5 rDev -12.4%
Received quite some time ago in trade, I forget who (thanks in any case!). 2010 vintage. Poured from a 12oz bottle into my Spirit Sippers snifter.
Coppery liquid glows a dark chestnut color when held to the light. Clear but very dark. A vigorous pour yields a pale apricot collar and surface slick. Good retention considering the age and ABV. Very fine pasty lacing and a fine sheen of lacquer is left around the rim.
Sweet, deeply malty, gently vinuous aromatics suggest burnt sugar, caramel malt, figs, dates, and berries and leather.
Potent grainy palate entry suggests an array of specialty malt, richly roasted and toasted to various degrees from light to black; a fruitiness emerges as well as does a mild sherry/port-like quality (more from fruit/alcohol than any oxidation). Hops are subdued throughout. Alcohol is strong and cuts through the flavor profile a bit much. Finishes warm and woody with an increasing dryness in the aftertaste despite the initial presence of sugars.
Medium-bodied, oily, with adequate carbonation.
A well crafted yet not entirely integrated example of the style - other than mellowing the alcohol further I'm not sure this would benefit from extended cellaring...better served to contrast a strong cheese.
04-14-2012 22:39:30 | More by augustgarage
4.7/5 rDev +9.8%
Most recent batch into Kuhnhenn snifter/tulip (They call it their "Belgian" glass)
A- Super murky, almost black pour with just a thin light tan ring around the glass. Lacing is spotty but the alcohol just grips the glass.
S- Wow, okay... where to begin. Huge brown sugar, vanilla, plum, raisin with a nice coffee, chocolate and molasses sweetness in the back. Slight leather and tobacco. The alcohol is super hidden. I don't know if this makes sense but is smells syrupy and sticky.
T- My goodness... Massive raisins and dates and figs, followed by huge char taste of toast and tobacco. Coffee and chocolate followed by vanilla, brown sugar and molasses. The finish is bitter and something I would describe of grape skins.
M- Like I guessed in the aroma it's syrupy and sticky. Heavier than medium bodied, super low carbonation with a touch of alcohol warmth.
O- This is something I've been wanting to try since I found out about Kuhnhenn. It really doesn't disappoint. After driving all through Michigan and stopping there before leaving the country I was happy to get 4 of these AND 4 of the bourbon version. I love this and can't wait to try the other.
04-11-2012 23:26:22 | More by korguy123
3.68/5 rDev -14%
From notes on 4/4/12
Pours a garnet/ruddy reddish brown with a 1 finger head via a vigorous pour. Rich plum scent w/ other dark fruits. Brown sugar. Also some caramel and vanilla. Pretty underwhelming, really. Taste is sweet and boozy, slightly astringent. More dark fruits and brown sugars. Tasty indeed. The mouth is smooth with an odd sweet/tart thing going on. Some mild heat and a touch of bitterness. Solid beer that goes down way too easily for being 13.5%
04-11-2012 23:14:09 | More by Retail1LO
3.7/5 rDev -13.6%
2011 vintage poured into snifter
pours dark brown with a slight ruby tint some tiny little bubbles circle the edge of the glass
smells more kind of like a burnt marsh mellow with a huge alcohol presence
tastes brings raisins plums and other dark fruits to mind with a nice sugary sweetness slight alcohol burn
carbonation is almost non existent and a very thick coating mouthfeel
overall very good sipper i'm going to sit on a few for a little while and see how they do.... i should crack my 09 soon to try the lower alcohol version
04-10-2012 05:20:23 | More by joefuzz
4.48/5 rDev +4.7%
Kuhnhenn 4th D. 2010 vintage. Served just below room temperature. Poured into a snifter glass.
Pours a dark cherry brown color with a small head that didn't hold up long. Had a viscous body coming out of the bottle. 4.0
Huge port aroma coming off of this beer. That, and a rich layer of decadent caramel and melted chocolate toffee bar. So much butter in the nose that the alcohol is pretty dormant, so far. A little ripe grape thrown in the array. There's a massive sweet, honey biscuit-like malt underneath the imparted smells. Mammoth in nose. 4.5
Prune, raisin, toffee, and buttercrunch follow the booze among dominant flavors. More big vinous characters like fortified wine and brandy. The malts are giant, but soft. No heavy roastiness, spring-y toast, or standout astringent grain notes. Still chunky and sweet. There is a choppy bitterness that reminds me of the wood from a barrel, but this is not that version. The finish has more of the port wine and alcohol presence with a mild, almost chile pepper, spiciness. Ridiculously warming. Absolutely stunning. 4.5
Rich, burly mouthfeel with a light existent carbonation. Toothsome and wooly. Major league booze. Not for the light beer drinker. A big-time warmer that makes you clear your throat and grunt after each sip. 4.5
One of the better old ales that I have tasted. Will seek out the bourbon barrel aged version. Recommended. 4.5
04-07-2012 03:42:23 | More by thecheapies
3.35/5 rDev -21.7%
2011 vintage, shared 3 ways.
Deep brown pour, super viscous, zero head. Looks like motor oil. Gives off the unmistakeably dark scent of black licorice. Also tobacco, burnt malts, booze.
Dark, burnt taste. Tons of licorice. Mild notes of ashtrays. Hints of sweet malts in there, but get quickly shushed by everything else around them. Thick, viscous body. Flavor balance here isn't particularly appealing to me, though, and I'm unconvinced that age would help in this regard.
A deeper, darker take on the Old Ale style. Glad I tried it but won't seek this out again.
04-06-2012 04:37:04 | More by brystmar
4/5 rDev -6.5%
Pours a rich chestnut brown; nearly clear, with very little head or lacing. Complex aroma is vinous, sweet, toasted marshmallows as mentioned on the label; toffee and caramel, raisins, booze, woody notes. Flavor equally complex but less sweet; there’s the trace of marshmallow and toffee from the nose but less prominent in the taste; oaky, slightly corky, vinous. Port and brandy flavors, some heat and warming as expected from the high ABV but not too much burn. Pleasant fusel alcohol presence. Low carbonation but not still; a little sticky, somewhat creamy. Medium body, could be a bit fuller. Finishes surprisingly dry. Tasty old ale; would love to see what the barrel aging brings to this very intriguing beer.
03-26-2012 13:48:03 | More by tobelerone
3.25/5 rDev -24.1%
A: Pours out of the bottle a hazy brown, and sits in my glass deep brown, almost glowing, with a finger or so of light brown head. A decent amount of head remains after a while, and lacing sticks to the glass in spots. A nice amount of bubbles are noted through the muck, gathering happily beneath the head.
S: The aroma of 4D is really nice. Deep caramel and roasted malts, dark fruits, and molasses contribute to a sweet yet mellowed aroma. Some booze is noted, but not enough for me to garner it's 13.5% ABV.
T: The taste isn't quite as nice. The caramel malts and dark fruits are present as is the booze, but amazingly the taste just drops off into nowhere. The booze is offensive, but the sweetness curbs it quickly and leaves not much on the palate after the beer is gone. It's very one dimensional and just not all that impressive.
MF: I can't believe I'm going to say this, but 4D seemed to be too thin. Also, the booze is too offensive and the carbonation too low. Not much of a finish.
O: I was ready for this to be a huge beer, and it just wasn't. The ABV, I believe, was too high and took away from the Old Ale characteristics. Loved the aroma, wish the taste and feel was better.
03-24-2012 01:32:46 | More by russwbeck
4.25/5 rDev -0.7%
12 oz bottle courtesy of Stephen and poured into my Central Waters snifter. Thank you for the opportunity!
Mild aggression leads to a quick rise and fall off white bubbles that pool to fat orbs along the edges. Rusty tromboney color with reddish and muddy brown highlights. When backlit against the dark couch she looks just fine, when held to light a bit of turd soup.
Sweet dark fruits, figs, marshmallow, drizzled hot butterscotch and sugary german chocolate cake. In my wheelhouse here, as I dig a good Old Ale. Decadent.
Tastes even sweeter than the nose lets on and that's a near Herculean feat. Figs, plums, rum soaked raisin, and vanilla. Lingering fusel heat that hangs along the palate and leaving a slow simmering burn along the finish. A beast to be sure.
Low carbonation, oily, and buttery. Slip slides like Astroglide on a summer evening.
A big beer to be savored and pondered. Not Adam, but what is?
03-20-2012 01:48:55 | More by BarrytheBear
Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
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