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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Ratings: 936
Reviews: 441
rAvg: 4.29
pDev: 8.86%
Wants: 573
Gots: 214 | FT: 24
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Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003

Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%
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Photo of womencantsail
4.65/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A huge thanks to Derek for sending me this beer some time ago. Finally got around to opening it last night. Shared with some deserving souls.

A: The pour is amber/leaning toward mahogany color with a minimal off-white head.

S: Lots of sweet caramel, toffee, brown sugar, dark fruits, honey, alcohol, and maple syrup. I'm sure that I missed something, but there are just so many aromas going on.

T: A similarly decadent array of flavors comes through as soon as this one hits your tongue. A mix of dark fruits, maple syrup, honey, toffee, caramel, and brown sugar. A touch of alcohol, but it's almost reminiscent of bourbon.

M: The body is full with a low carbonation and really smooth on the tongue.

D: I'm a big fan of Kuhnhenn and this beer is one of the reasons. An amazing beer and maybe the best Old Ale around.

Photo of hoppymcgee
4/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Knifestyles for this bottle. Poured from a 2008 vintage bottle into a Ommegang tulip glass.

A: Reddish dark brown with little to no head. Pretty still and almost wine-like besides the tiny ring of carbonation.

S: Nutty, buttery, toffee, toasted almond. Overall, a pretty sweet smell (pun intended).

T: This beer is quite complex. The overall notion is sweet. Underneath I get port wine characteristics, a little roastiness and a little nuttiness, but it still finishes sweet.

M: The right amount of carbonation for this style and ABV. I actually wish this was a little more viscous.

D: The booze has worn off, but the sweetness is in full force. This beer is best had in 4 to 6oz. servings as it is pretty rich.

Overall, maybe a bit hyped or maybe 2008 wasn't a great vintage or maybe it was aged past its prime.

Photo of coldmeat23
4.83/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

GLASS: Snifter
TEMP: Poured at approx 42 degrees, warmed to room temp
VINTAGE: 2007 (12.5%abv)

This pours up a deep, yet vibrant, ruby/garnet color with some dark amber highlights. A very thin film of tan/beige foam forms the head, which never really leaves. It's small enough to hang around and not have to worry about diminishing, but at this abv level, I wouldn't expect much more of a head than this. The lacing is filled with tiny little spots which are sticky enough to fight against the oily-ness that coats the sides of the glass and drags them back down to the liquid surface.

This nose is deep, rich, and very complex. Loads of maple and dark fruit notes. Good hints of vanilla. Red grapes and a slight earthy/mustiness. Hints of black currants and a slight trace of cotton candy sweetness. Candied apple notes. Lots of caramel richness and sweet notes of brown sugar. Light hints of wood notes. Earthiness of dark molasses. As expected, it has an almost port like quality to it, overall.
An amazing nose, even in the realm of Old Ales, where noses are commonly amazing.

Initial taste is a malted milk bar, dipped in maple syrup. The earthiness comes forward to balance out the sweetness, which is still here, but somewhat muted. Still lots of dark fruit notes, along with some maraschino cherries and ranier cherries on the back end. Minor notes of green vegetables touch the mid-palate. Very nice presence of salted caramels. Lots of wood presence. Minor earthy hop notes. Lots of dates and figs, along with some light notes ohfmolasses and tobacco.
Overall, this is very rich, deep and complex. As far as old ales go, this is absolutely one of my top faves.

Very much a full-bodied brew, with a slightly oily feel to it. Low carbonation level, which works very well for it. Very smooth and a tiny touch of creaminess. Almost silky.

This is extremely drinkable. Very smooth and delicious. Just be careful of that high abv. You don't taste it, but you will certainly feel it after just a little bit of time goes by.

Photo of sisuspeed
4.38/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Romulux for this treat!

Poured into a tulip glass. Dark brown body with a ruby red hue. Decent off-white head that slowly fades to a creamy thin film. Nice lacing left on the glass. Looks great for an old ale.

Caramel dipped fruits with a splash of alcohol make up most of the aroma. Honey, cherries, strawberries and a little bit of port character round things out. Somewhat malty with a hint of anise as well.

Lots of caramel again with sweet candied figs on the tongue. Floral honey notes, blackberries and a touch of cherry on the finish. Toffee, bittersweet chocolate and a bit of alcohol heat, but not too much. Tasty stuff.

Mouthfeel is smooth with light, tingly carbonation. A touch of creaminess and warming alcohol. Could maybe be beefed up a bit, but still pretty good.

Drinkability is good. A big beer and definitely a sipper. I'm really liking the fruity caramel flavors. The nose is also quite pleasant and adds to the overall enjoyment. Pretty sure I could finish a bottle of this by myself. I'm also glad I have another bottle aging in the cellar. This beer should come along nicely with a few years on it. Very well done old ale. Nice work Kuhnhenn.

Photo of Mora2000
4.22/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to thirdeye11 for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours an amber-red color with a tan head. The aroma is brown sugar with some alcohol, molasses, maple and oak. The flavor is just as complex with cherries, brown sugar, alcohol, toffee and caramel. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A very complex beer that I really enjoyed.

Photo of TCgoalie
4.25/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Notes from 6/10/10

Pours a dark brown with a hint of red. Not much head is present at first, but a thin layer soon appears and sticks around. Lacing is evident and better than most old ales.

Rich molasses and a bit of wood appear in the smell. A hint of anise and dark malts come through as well followed by some piney hops.

Rich and tasty is my first thought of this brew. Tastes like a cross between a brown and old ale. There is all kinds of molasses/brown sugar which play alongside plums, raisins and even a hint of blueberry. A roasty malt with a touch of bitterness is about all I have left from my tongue.

Definitely heavy in the mouth, there is plenty of malt to go around. Very smooth for 12%, but the syrupy sticky aftertaste is an afterthought after the taste.

One and done here, it isn't a bad thing though. One must explore the complexity of this over many sips.

Photo of taylorhamrick
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Recieved in a trade from hotpipes29.

It's a deep brown color, slightly hazy, with a decent 1 cm head, tannish colored, surprising for a 2-year old beer, I'd say. The smell is really nice. Comes off with a caramel/toffee sweetness from the malts. Really caramellized nicely in there. With notes of chocolate and cocoa. There are also some notes of tobacco, and a slight mustiness (maybe it's my imagination on this last one). Really fascinating, and very deeply complex. The taste just really fascinates you from the first, particularly if you like some malt. It just comes out with caramel, like caramel coated, herby, grass/straw, cola flavored grain, great maltiness here - very complex, but really sort of comes outright and tells you it's here. I get a nice flavor of chocolate, a little roastiness, which blends with a slight alcohol burn. The little bit of age has done wonders, and I can tell it will hold up for longer. The body has a huge thickness, sticky and sweet, but the carbonation peeks through with a strong enough presence to keep it from being cloying. This is really a great display of malt, and I found myself continually drinking it, almost too much, so I couldn't wait on it to warm enough to see the differences in flavor. Will keep you interested, I'd say. A great beer.

Photo of drabmuh
3.95/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Matt recently after I told him this beer was on my "long list." THANKS MATT!

Served in a snifter. Beer is dark brown and forms a thin off white head that still leaves some lacing on the glass but overall carbonation levels appear low. Looks OK

Aroma is dark fruits like raisins, sweetness with a back drop of apricots and pears. Interesting. May be slightly oxidized.

Beer is sweet with an apple middle and dry finish. The forward beer is thin but the body fills out in the midpalate somehow to finish with a medium to full body. Interesting. I think this beer would benefit from some age on it. Dirnkability was pretty good, mouthfeel was confusing.

Photo of AdamGarcia
4.08/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I believe this one is courtesy of Randalld. Thanks!

12oz btl poured into Kasteel goblet. 2009 vintage, 12.5% abv.

A: Pours a lovely deep brown with crimson edges. Even has lilac highlights in some lights. Small head from a forceful pour that retreats to a ring of bubbles after about a minute.

S: Sweet white grape juice and maraschino cherry. Slight astringency. Sweet malt overflows from the glass. Toffee. No hop scent to speak of.

T: Very rich. Overripe cherry and plum. Rum soaked raisins. Very mild hop bite. Port-like character. Chocolate covered caramel. A little bit of toffee. Tobacco and just a hint of smoke. Finishes with a faint note of coffee. Very complex. Just a bit of heat. I seem to discover something new with every single sip.

M: Low carbonation. Slick and coating mouthfeel.

D: The complexity assures that the drinker will never be bored. The abv makes it difficult to have more than one.

This is an amazing beer. It tastes as if it is much older and I mean that in a good way. There is just a touch of heat that will surely be less noticeable with longer cellaring. I've got another bottle that I'd like to hide away for several years. Definitely worth seeking out.

Photo of flexabull
4.53/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2009 Bottle courtesy of klikger, thanks again!

Pours a deep dark brown color with a nice off white head.

Aromas are of dark ripe fruits, hints of cocoa, and brown sugars. Smells nice.

Taste is quite nice, this beer is a powerhouse of flavors. Nice dark fruit flavors, bitter bakers chocolate, and creamy sweet. Finish ties it all together with warm booziness.

Mouthfeel is pretty good, a little prickly though, feels a little bit off. (this is a slight nit pick...)

Drinkability is up there. This is a superb old ale with wonderful flavors, thoroughly enjoyable, and one that would be great to set aside for a few years.

Photo of klikger
4.65/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle from 2009 served in a snifter

A - Very dark amber/red with almost no head. Lacing is minimal, save for a tiny ring floating atop this beautifully-hued ale.

S - Toffee, raisin, fig, and a little vanilla.

T - Surpasses the delicious nose from sip one, with caramel, dates, and no small bit of alcohol heat. As time passes, raisins, tobacco, brown sugar, molasses, and prunes are tasted, with the dried fruits featured prominently. The finish is both sweet and slightly bitter, ensuring that it doesn't grow cloying. This beer shares many flavors and characteristics with a good tawny port and is ideal as a digestif.

M - Very warm and no carbonation. The sweetness never becomes detrimentally syrupy, which amazes me.

D - Obviously a sipper, but not because it's hard to drink - I forced myself to take only small sips over an hour or so, as this is a rare treat and deserves to be enjoyed as such. However, the beer never required me to slow down due to being overbearingly sweet or strong. This is a huge beer; drinkability is great for what it is.

I'm a massive fan of Fourth Dementia - it's in my top 10 without a doubt. It absolutely explodes with flavor, and the blend is perfectly suited for my palate. If you like Old Ales, this should be near the top of your to-drink list.

Photo of sweemzander
4.72/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle poured into a snifter. 2009 Vintage.

(A)- Pours a cloudy dark brown; almost black color. Produced a tan, almost orange head that is sticking to the sides of the glass.

(S)- A near roasted richness and sweetness of fig, raisin, vanilla, toffee, caramel, butterscotch, honey, and somehow plum. A wood-like dryness in the background. A rather rustic profile with a touch of nuttiness in between the malts. The best smelling Old Ale I have ever enjoyed. Rich and sweet with a big complexity to it.

(T)- Again, a dense monster of rich malts. The smell describes the taste perfectly.

(M)- Dense and rich, but is fitting of the style. A good carbonation level and a great balance. Sweet and malty as hell, but has a light level of bitterness, dryness, and heat to not make it over the top. It also has almost a roasted character to the background.

(D)- A fantastic Old Ale. Sweet and rich and dense, but in the best way. Has an awesome malt profile. A superb example of the style. The more I have of it, the more I like it. Usually the style is too hot for my taste, but this one hides its 12.5% well.
Tastes awesome now, but age will be kind to this yet. It did take me awhile to finish the bottle though, but this one you gotta sip; complex and silky sweet.

Photo of tai4ji2x
4.45/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2008 vintage. 12oz bottle obtained in trade. tasted in early june 2009.

dark amber brown. almost ruby clear, but some slight haze and small particles afloat. big, 3-finger tan/beige head w yellow tint. gradually fades to thin layer. great lacing

aroma: malty and fruity, very caramelized, almost brown sugar character, w/ raisin, fig and date juice. port winenotes, more toasty, bready caramel notes, almost cinnamon bun-like. gentle hop hint. whiff of cocoa?

taste: sweet caramel and brown sugar w fig/date tones. slightly hoppier than aroma, w/ possible hint of citrusy american varieities, gives a moderate but balanced bitterness. sweet malty finish w/ gentle lingering hops for a semi-sweet aftertaste.

medium body, lightly syrupy. very active but not quite fizzy carbonation, perhaps more than i'd like, but gives a distinctive, almost fluffy feel.

Photo of farrago
4.4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

You get a good two fingers at first of light tan, creamy foam, mostly microfoam with a pile here or there of larger bubbles, above average retention with a brush of lacing here or there. Unusual clarity for the category with a deep cherry red veneer, only a very slight fade to more base orange around the rims, highly attractive. The nose unfolds at a langorous pace, layers of candied nuts, caramel, toffee, brown sugar, baker's chocolate as well as prune, black raisin, cherry, apricot fruit, elusive smokiness and mossy notes, displays a great deal of power without clumsiness. Full-bodied and then some, covers every mouth pore like rubber glue. Given its texture and overall sweetness, does stay notably fresh and in movement. Avalanche of caramel, toffee, crème brûlée, butterscotch, chocolate, brown sugar, you name it. Maraschino cherry, poached apricot, golden raisin, prune, fig fruit. Candied tangerine citrus adds more sweet and sour. Carbonation behaves like a lava lamp. An edge of peat moss, charcoal, tar pulls it back from the precipice of oversweetness. Even as it warms keeps its balance, although you do suspect you could light the surface with a match. No port handy, drink this beer.

Photo of HopHead84
4.38/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4


2008 vintage in a snifter. Bottle received in a trade with FlanderNed, thanks Steve! The beer pours turbid deep crimson brown with a voluminous light tan head, excellent retention, and scattered lacing.

The aroma is rich and malty, with notes of dried dates and figs, sherry oxidation, treacle, mellow alcohol, caramel, and toffee. Amazing aroma.

The flavor is luscious toffee. It's incredibly rich and expressive, with notes of dried dates, dried figs, treacle, toffee, caramel, light sherry oxidation, and alcohol. The finish is decadent and boozy.

The beer is full bodied with a thick and chewy mouthfeel. This is a rich, complex, and potent malt sipper. Highly recommended, though I'd suggest you share the bottle.

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.35/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle split two ways thanks to ahalloin.

Mahogany hue with a very substantial head and plenty of lace. Aromas of sweet tobacco, alcohol, rich malts, raisins. This beer has great complexity. My initial thoughts upon my first sip were that this instantly reminds me of a great English barleywine, particularly J.W. Lees. Secondly, this beer tastes much older than it is. I really thought the alcohol, while certainly not hidden, did not overpower the beer or present any undesirable harshness on the palate. There is a long, lingering aftertaste consisting of sweet caramels, toffee. Warming alcohol in the finish. Great beer. Probably best in small quantities.

Photo of Flipadelphia
4.33/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance- Rich dark cherry color, consistent and little to no head probably due to alcohol content

Smell- nice cherry smell, continues rich, the remainder of the scent but reminds me of dark fruits, and it smells sweet and deep. Can smell either brown sugar or molasses, when I tried to smell figs and the beer in short order, I could distinctly smell figs.

Taste- This tastes really wonderful, as I continued to drink it, the taste got stronger, deeper and better. Complex taste that has character at the start, sweetness in the middle, and solid finish. No taste is overpowering and no single taste dominates. As such, the strength of the flavor never overpowers your palate. For a beer with such a high alcohol content, this beer has a well rounded taste. As the beer warms in your glass the flavor only improves. Can taste dark cherry and figs/dates.

Mouthfeel- creamy feel in your mouth, sweet but not sugary, subtle tastes help this high alcohol content beer from having an overpowering feel while drinking it, and the finish is smooth and continues to develop the flavor rather than leaving any type of after-taste that could possibly ruin the experience.

Drinkability- This is a great beer that I could have a couple glasses of. Due to the complexity of the flavor, I'm not sure that more than 2 or 3 glasses would continue to be great, but the both glasses I enjoyed were great and the flavor got better the more in took over my palate.

Photo of KickInTheChalice
4.4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a growler (filled 3 days ago at Kuhnhenn's) into a pint glass. Special thanks to my dad for bringing this back from Michigan.

Appearance: Pours a dark cherry color, which appears nearly black when not held up to the light. A 3 cm off-white head forms upon pouring, but quickly dissipates to a lazy ring around the edge of the glass. Not much lace to speak of - do you expect much out of a high ABV old ale?

Smell: Quite a sweet aroma. Boozy cherry, soft caramel, and a variety of other dark fruits all make their mark.

Taste: The taste is strong and sweet, and surprisingly I did not find it cloying. It warms the stomach like brandy as strong cherry and caramel flavors give the malt some pop. Figs and dates come through right after, and a light earthy hop presence helps to finish out the taste.

Mouthfeel: The start is sweet and syrupy, but luckily it does not stay that way. Only light / medium carbonation, but with a soft creaminess it resembles a beer with less than the full body it has.

Drinkability: A great sipper. Great strong malt presence without being overly sweet. A variety of tastes, but it stays consistent most of the way through. A clean finish helps keep the taste refreshing.

Photo of AgentZero
2.95/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A - Pretty dark brown, looking black, ridiculously huge head that faded after a little while and left some bizzare bubble sheets in random spikes and thorny shapes on the side. Unusual.

S - Sugarrific, other than I don't like that sort of thing. Very brown sugarish, big malt profile. A lot of dark fruit smell, and a huge dose of licorice.

T - Brown sugar bomb, not really good. I get way too much licorice on this also. Dark fruit, just too sweet. Any complexity in this is hard to find as it is buried in a huge malty, sugary overload.

M - Medium bodied, high dose of carbonation, sticky.

D - Can't do it, the sweetness is too coating and overpowering. The sugar and licorice tastes dominate too much and overpower the taste buds to the point of being painful.

Photo of nickd717
3.53/5  rDev -17.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I reviewed this on tap and gave it an A, but this one is not going to be as pretty. bring was nice enough to share two vintages of 12oz bottles of this - the 2008 and 2009. Apparently (from the reviews and my experience) the tap and bottled versions can differ substantially. I like the tap version better.

Pours hazy reddish-orangish-amber color with a one-finger off-white head and nice lacing.

Aroma is very good, but you can sense a lot of sweetness. Super-sweet caramel and brown sugar, mild toastiness, and candied fruits.

On the flavor, this is a massive sugar bomb. Absolutely brutal. Still though, it's very tasty, in the same way candy is. Fruits abound - candied plums, figs, dates, and cherries - along with caramel, toffee, burnt brown sugar, and alcohol. The 2009 vintage is sweeter than the 2008, which has mellowed out a bit.

Palate is nice and smooth with medium-full body, but you can feel the cloying sweetness. This is almost akin to drinking syrup like they did in "Super Troopers." Very moderate booziness.

The drinkability on this one is really average at best. It's just tough to take down too much of, and I have a high sweet tolerance (although it's not as high as it used to be). Still, I wouldn't turn this beer down if you offered it to me again.

Photo of Adamdc
3.83/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into large snifter

A: Almost black pour that when held up to light shows ruby hues. Very minimal head that shows light lacing

S: Lots of burnt sugar and brown sugar with dark fruits (some cherries also) and booze. I can tell this is going to be 'big'!!

T: I'm hit with a very dominant sweetness! The taste mimics the aroma with the dark fruits moving to the forefront and the booze is tingling my tongue---pretty hot.

M: I must say the mouthfeel is very nice. Nicely thick and syrupy!

D: 11.8%ABV and the sweetness would limit me to only one per sitting.

I'm probably not the best judge of this beer for two reasons: I don't have alot of experience with 'Old Ales' and I've never been a big fan of 'sweet' beers. Even the 'almighty' DL is too sweet for my tastes. But with that said, it is clear that this beer is something special. There's is alot going on with all the different dark fruit aromas and tastes that are going on. I got this as an extra in a trade and it seems that it's a pretty sought after beer. I'm glad I got to try it and if the situation arises again, I'll go at it one more time!

Photo of Sean9689
4.35/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tasted a bunch of times at Schlafly Repeal Festival 2010. Poured into tasting glass over and over because it's so damn awesome.

A - Pours black, off-white/tan head, nice sticky lacing and a slim cap on top.

S - Burnt sugars, dark fruits, caramel, toffee. Lots of sweetness and complexity to this. A decent amount of alcohol on the nose but nothing I was expecting with Kuhnhenn.

T - Big, sweet, and boozy (in a good way). I knew this was gonna be a monster and I loved every sip. Chocolate, toffee, burnt caramels, boozy alcohol. The alcohol works really well with this and doesn't overpower the rest of the beer...in fact, it compliments the nuances. Sweet & boozy finish.

M - Full, rich & thick, very very light carbonation.

D - As high octane as this one is, I loved it. I think it was the first keg to blow at the festival and for good reason. Awesome.

Photo of Tone
3.73/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, amber color. 1/4 inch head of an off-white color. Decent retention and decent lacing. Smells of alcohol, sweet malt, and slight dark citrus. Fits the style of an Old Ale. Mouth feel is sharp and crisp with an average carbonation level. Tastes of strong alcohol, sweet malt, dark citrus, slight hop, slight vanilla, and slight tart malt. Overall, a good body, but the blend is off (too strong of alcohol).

Photo of cpetrone84
4.18/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A-dark ruby red with lots of bubbles on the side of the glass and mostly transparent. The tan head is tight and creamy in appearance, only about 1 1/2 fingers of head that has solid retention and very creamy thick lace covering the glass

S-the nose is pretty big and quite sweet. Caramel and a touch of brown sugar up front as the dark fruits take over. Dark cherries are strongest and seem lightly soaked in alcohol with some plum in there as well. There are some metallic phenols in the back that take away from what started as a great aroma

T-the taste is quite big and actually has a huge caramel and brown sugar malt component up front similar to that of a barleywine. Dark fruits set in at the middle and take it home throughout. Lots of dark cherries and a touch of plum make up the initial sweetness as the booze comes in towards the back with just a touch of hop bitterness and herbal hops.

M-this boasts a nice medium body with an incredibly smooth and creamy feel. It is soft throughout with a slightly dry finish and enough carbonation to hold it up until the end.

D-this has huge flavors and a great set of maltiness. The feel is great and it is so smooth and creamy. It is a little hot right now so I could see a couple years making this explode!

Photo of billshmeinke
3.7/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into pint glass. Extra from a trade with triptens, thanks.

Hard pour yields a one finger yellowish/cream head. Quickly resides to a layer of foam on top. Dark brown/amber in color. Not much lacing.

Smells of candied plumbs, figs, red licorice, brown sugar and toffee. Quite pungent.

Tastes of candied plumbs, figs, red licorice, brown sugar, toffee, caramel, a vague nutty characteristic and some earthy/leafy hops. A lingering sweetness and slight bitterness. Quite sweet, not enough bitterness to balance it out. Sweetness is slightly cloying after a little while.

Pretty full bodied, medium carbonation. A bit creamy. A little hot.

Pretty decent drinkability. The abv is veeeery well hidden (almost dangerously so). It is almost too sweet and candy-like. Reminiscent of sugar coated dark fruits.

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 936 ratings.