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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Ratings: 918
Reviews: 439
rAvg: 4.28
pDev: 8.88%
Wants: 565
Gots: 206 | FT: 25
Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%

(Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003)
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Photo of barefootbrewer
4.38/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This beer poured a clear brown color with a thin tan head that stuck around for the entire tasting. The aroma was big of malt and caramel - very inviting. The taste was also MALT! It was complex with notes of deep plumb, caramel and brown sugar. The mouthfeel was full and lush. This is a heavy brew. A delicious sipper that I'd love to try again.

barefootbrewer, Dec 30, 2008
Photo of JohnGalt1
4.33/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2007 vintage received a while back from DLucky.... I tried a bottle my bro brought over a couple of months back and it piqued my interest.. so... tonight is the night. Poured into my New Belgium snifter.

Aggressive pour lends only a short lived 3/4" head with a nice cap.. the brew is a beautiful deep brown with bright crimson highlites when held to a light... very pretty and a unique looking brew... nice lace as the liquid slowly drops.

Aroma is very complex... reminds me of an English BW and an older Tawny port.. fruity and leathery with a mild spicy hop background... raisins and lite figs ...

The flavor is huge and comes in waves... very thick malty presence ... with abundant dried fruit .... figs.. lite prune.. fairly sweet.. dry cigar wrapper.. again is reminiscent of an aged English BW... but very aged.. spicy and peppery.... a little bit of ETOH heat.. but actually adds to the overall presentation.. the body is thick and coating.. maybe a little sweet for my palate.. but I honestly think it should probably be cellared for a while longer.. maybe years... what do I know? The carbonation is alot more lively than expected... pouring this one, I did not expect as much.

This brew is a sleeper.. because the finish is sooo long... I am really liking it... now I just need to find a good connection for Kuhnhenn.

Thanks Dan for the fantastic trade.

JohnGalt1, Dec 26, 2008
Photo of PatronWizard
3.2/5  rDev -25.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Killer extra from Egledhill. Contents are suspicious though. Label is a little faded and looks as though it could have come from a laser printer. Plus there is a home wax job on the cap. I wouldn't put it past that cheap-shot taking sonofabitch to send me a repack. I can't pass on the opportunity to try this, so here goes.

Nice little psss when I popped the cap, so if it is a repack, it's a nice job. Appears to be a deep shade of blood. Dark with slight ruby highlights. Small off-white head quickly settles to a thin film. Nice off-white head of bigger proportions results from the second pour. Quickly settles to a thin film again.

I smell some caramel and maybe dark cherries. Some kind of a darker type fruit that I'm not familiar with also. Smells pretty decent.

Tastes completely different. It's cold but it tastes warm. Big taste of what I want to call pomegranite. Unique bitterness at the end. Again I claim pomegranite although it may be something similar. Is there any thing similar to pomegranite?

How should I put this? I don't like it about sums it up.

Really happy to try it, but I won't be needing another. Gee Erik, thanks PAL. With friends like you, who needs enemas?

Overall: one timer

PatronWizard, Dec 10, 2008
Photo of pwoods
4.6/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Bottle clearly states 11.8% ABV

Second Review:
Thanks to Kels for picking me up a bottle of this while you were in Detroit to watch a big time wrestling pay per view.... >.>

This bottle was much better than the first that I had. Carbonation was much stronger and helped tie the flavors together. This also majorly helped the feel which made it much thicker and completely smooth. A large head formed and help for quite a bit and helped the aroma flood my nose. This beer could definitely be dangerous if you're not careful as it stupidly easy to drink.

First Review:
Thanks to Hoppymeal for this great trade.

12oz. brown bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a very deep mahogany with nearly no visibility. Very little carbonation even after a rough pour. Basically no head or lacing.

S: Dark, sugary fruits soaked in alcohol. Raisins and cooked cherry's. Sweet malts, deeply cooked sugar and honey. Alcohol is very present but not stinging or abrassive, nicely mellowed.

T/M: Some weak signs of oxidation. Super sweet caramel malts with more of the thick honey. Dark plump raisins and cooked cherry's and plums. The carbonation is basically not there which is a little disappointing.

D: Great sipper and drinks relatively easy for an Old Ale.

pwoods, Nov 21, 2008
Photo of prototypic
4.22/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Many, many thanks to hoppymeal for this one.

Vintage 2007

Appearance: It pours a really nice looking dark brown color. It's very clear and has some strong ruby highlights. The head is a really light mocha color that stood about two fingers tall. It stuck around for a few, but not too long. A nice web of lace stuck to the glass.

Smell: Dark fruit aromas kick it off. It's a nice mix of raisin and plum. There's a touch of berry fruits that round out the fruit aromas. There's an interesting leather-like aroma to it. A very light whiff of hops emerges, but it's not very strong. Perhaps that's faded a bit with time. Alcohol is noted. My bottle doesn't list the abv, so I can't confirm that it's 9.5%. It certainly smells like it. It's a nice smelling beer that's lacking just a little in strength.

Taste: The flavor profile is much better simply because of the delivery. It really has a lot of depth and character. It is very dark fruit-intensive. Raisin, plum, and a little prune are all recognizeable. There's some berry flavors and cherry that are more subdued, but add quite a bit of flavor. There's an earthy side to it that features a nice tobacco flavor. There's a light hop flavor to it that's nice. But it's obviously faded a little. This really reminds me of a nicely aged Barleywine. Alcohol is noted, but it's masked well. It finishes sweet and ever so slightly bitter.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: It's medium bodied and has a pretty smooth feel. Carbonation is relatively low, which helps. I can't help but think a little more thickness would drive this to the next level in terms of feel. Drinkability is good. But, I suspect the abv is indeed somewhere in the 9%-10% neighborhood. It's a nice sipping beer. One 12 oz. is enough for me.

Fourth Dementia's a nice beer. I'd like to try one fresh just to see how it compares. Frankly, the nose could use a little more strength and thickening it up would improve it to some degree. But, it's a very good beer as it is. I'm certainly grateful for the opportunity to try it. Thanks, Derek.

prototypic, Nov 18, 2008
Photo of hopdog
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz bottle. Bottle labeled bottled on 08-01-04 and best before 2010.

Poured a deeper and murky brown color with a small sized off white head. Aromas of caramel, toffee, dark cherries, raisins, and light chocolate. Tastes of toffee, cherries, plums, citrus, caramel, and some brown sugar. Light to medium alcohol in the finish.

Notes from 12/24/06

hopdog, Nov 10, 2008
Photo of joe1510
4.3/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz Bottle

2007 Bottling

A big thanks goes out to hoppymeal for this brew among many others, thanks Derek! There's nothing like an old ale to celebrate the first snow of the season. Fourth Dementia's body is the darkest of reds, that red that borders on black and is deep mahogany when a little light gets to it. I can't see any carbonation through the glass when backlit, the beer looks perfectly still. I had to pour hard to get a head but when it finally started forming it was well worth it. Two fingers of beige creaminess sit atop the body and slowly falls to a thick cap leaving insanely sticky lacing all over the glass. The head sticks around forever and makes for a great looking brew.

The nose is loaded with malty goodness. Deeply toasted grains and brown sugar lay down the big malty base. Coca-Cola, Bing cherries, blackberries, and golden raisins all take place in the aroma in that order exactly. Faint whiffs of vanilla and lightly toasted wood pop up here and there. Alcohol comes through with some spiciness. The nose on this old ale is deeply complex and needs time to open up to get all the perks.

Damn! The flavor is just as malty intense as the nose led on. Caramel, brown sugar, and toasted grains all come through in a big way. That sticky sweetness segues directly into the Coca-cola, cherry and blackberry middle. The finish is somewhat peppery and boozy warm which adds more depth and character. The moderate alcohol heat never gets in the way of this brew and it just wouldn't feel right if there were any less heat.

The mouthfeel is right where it should be. Each drink coats the tongue and cheeks with a sticky sweetness that never becomes cloying but in fact disappears not long after the swallow. The carbonation is a little livelier than I expected, which isn't saying much with the still look on the pour.

This beer is big and complex so it's a sipper without a doubt but it goes down especially easy. I take drink after drink trying to pull out all the intricacies of this beer until I realize it's almost gone.

My first sampling of Fourth Dementia was the bourbon barrel aged version, it was fantastic and this one isn't far behind. One of the best of the style I have sampled to date. Thanks for the bottle Derek!

joe1510, Nov 10, 2008
Photo of SaucyA
3.93/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

2007. Cellar temp.

A - Poured into a Kuhnhenn tulip. Deep, dark brown with a lovely 1 finger, light tan head. Lots of bubbles ride the glass. Fantastic frothy lace. Noticeable carbonation dies down quickly, yet head never fades.

S - So nice... and very Kuhnhenn. There are a few smells that come to be commonplace in their big brews. Deep malt base, coupled with fruity esters. Raisins, molasses, alcohol.

T - Super roasty malts, big alcohol finish, noticeable hop bittering as well as bitter roasted malts. Slight coffee affects, as well as molasses. Melted bittersweet chocolate. Sweet, slightly sour, slightly bitter... will knock your tastebuds around.

M - I wouldn't mind if it were thicker. The carbonation and creaminess are on point, just seems like it could use a little more viscosity.

D - One and done. I love Fourth Dementia, but having more than one glass is asking for it.

Notes: This is a fine brew, but Ola Dubh 16 and Adam are both a little better from the bottle. Fourth Dementia is a bit better on tap.

SaucyA, Nov 02, 2008
Photo of srandycarter
4.18/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours dark murky brown. Not much head. Lacing thin and sudsy.

S - Cooked fruit, booze and molasses.

T - Follows smell somewhat. Prunes, brown sugar, molasses, chocolate.

M - Very coating, good carb, medium to heavy feel. Nice balance for such a sweet beer.

D - For the style, very drinkable.

srandycarter, Sep 19, 2008
Photo of SPLITGRIN
4.53/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

An inch and a half of stryfoam like fuzzy deep tan head has excellent retention. Body is a super dark, almost black brown in color. Huge notes of bourbon, molasses, vanilla and hot buttered toffee like malt are very attractive on the nose. Enters the mouth with some initially soured dark fruit but that quickly yeilds to a rich carmalized maltieness. You get some biscuity notes along with phelonic notes including vanilla, toffee, and crisp candied peanut butter. Dark berries are met with some hop based bitter at the end of the palate. Mouthfeel is of dark fruit and a nice bitter feel. It is a joy to drink this big sipper of a brew.

SPLITGRIN, Sep 17, 2008
Photo of jmscott
4.15/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Much thanks to bakerslp for this one. 12oz bottle, had a low fill - bottom of the neck. Poured into a pint glass.

A: Pours a thick, dark reddish/brown, slight lacing, decent legs

S: Very sweet, molasses, strong alcohol

T: Much like the smell, complexity of sugars with molasses and prunes, a little tartiness, definitely taste the 11%

M: It tickles your bitter senses, leaves a sweet coating on the entire palate. Behind all the sugars theres a really smooth finish, especially noticed towards the bottom of the glass as the beer warms up.

D: Very nice, but the intensity of the sugars & alcohol make each sip a lot to handle

jmscott, Sep 09, 2008
Photo of kkipple
3.68/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

My buddy snagged a bottle of this at DLD 2008 and was kind enough to break it out near the end of a recent tasting. From notes:

A. Dingy, not quite clear brown. Soupy. Lingering 2cm tan head. Not much active carbonation.

S. Hmm, classic Kuhnhenn over-the-top nose. Lucious and sweet with loads of sugar from all different colors. Pine-like and bitter from a large amounts of hops that haven't died out yet. Some chocolate and plums are lurking in there too... oh yeah, and a distinct boozy, barleywine like aroma. Complex, but a little hot and doesn't come together *quite* as well as it could.

T. How unusual... this is very aggressive and flavorful. Bitter hops, sweet syrupy caramel and some nearly sour, tart fruit (or fermentation character) all are on stage here. Surprisingly hoppy and bold for an old ale, perhaps this is a young bottle? A little oxidized and sherry like too. Cherries are hidden under the pile of other flavors, oddly. Overall it's brash and eye opening. Sweetness is a bit over the top (like a lot of Kuhnhenn's brews), but ok for the style. This is good, but young and rough.

M. Warm, boozy, sticky and generally dense. Finishes bittersweet and sugary / hoppy.

D. Not so great. Too much going on that doesn't mesh well. Fourth Dementia is likely a decent sipper for a cold night, but I also bet it improves greatly with a couple years.

kkipple, Aug 16, 2008
Photo of khiasmus
4.03/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

pours a clear mahogany with a surprising amount of head and excellent retention.

dates, sherry, raisins, plums, metal, cane sugar, hop notes and a bit of alcohol.

much the same as the nose up front, with all the same characteristics, but it finishes with lots of hop flavor and finally with tons of bitterness.

carbonation is surprisingly high for the style, and body is medium and smooth. finish is quite astringent.

not overly drinkable, simply because of the intensity of the flavor. highly recommended though.

khiasmus, Aug 16, 2008
Photo of ncvbc
4.33/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reddish with brown and amber in color, somewhat murky with a tan head that slowly settles to a ring. Smell is rich of malt. Caramel and toffee. Brown sugar. Some spice, a touch of toasted coconut. Taste is deep and rich. Very nice. Mild hoppiness is present. Spice is more apparent. Lots of caramel and toffee. Raisin and fig, dark fruits, slightly tart at times. Some doughy toasted bread. Even hints of oatmeal in the finish it seems. Big, close to full mouthfeel, though silky smooth going down. Could definitely see myself enjoying a couple of these with ease. A hearty brew though, so not much more than that. Quite enjoyable.

Cheers to grub, DrJay, and hoppymeal for the chance to try these on three occasions.

ncvbc, Aug 10, 2008
Photo of Atron67
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Alright in not one to review from but this was one of the first beers i had. it came a copper red with a solid head of tan color that stuck around with solid retention. extremely malty and very thick but not overwhelming for the consumer who understands what they are getting into. thick creamy very full bodied, had a very strong lingering character on the tongue, and an extreme maltiness. as stated above, very thick and creamy, slight fruit notes to it. heavy actually pretty smooth and very tasty.

Atron67, Aug 09, 2008
Photo of TheBlackMallard
4.25/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

07 Winter Solstice Batch 13.5%

Poured into my giant snifter. Dark Brown with a tan head that fades leaving behind some lacing.

Smell: Carmel, Rasins, Plums, Alcohol, and Toffee.

Taste: Earthy Hops, Brown Sugar, Dark Fruits, Followed by Bitterness and a Warming Alcohol finish. Syrupy and Heavy.

TheBlackMallard, Jun 26, 2008
Photo of mynie
4.08/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Aged a year and a half in my fine beer cellar (the closet in my office). Bottle sez it's best before 2011 and seeing as we're not even halfway through 2008 I figure I'm golden.

Sort of a gluppy, undercarbonated pour. I was worried for a second that it had gone flat but then I saw bubbles springing up from the bottom and heaved a sigh of relief. Looks like soda poured from a 2-liter that had been sitting in the fridge too long.

Smells pretty dang nice, though. The malt is intensely syrupy sour, tons of very rich and overripe fruits. Like a good, traditional old ale, this smells... well, old.

Tastes of stingy malted fruit and zippy yeasty alcohol. No hops to speak up, which I guess aren't standard for the style but the folks at Ft. Collins use them in their old ale so I guess they're not banned. The complexity is intense, nearly overwhelming, and while its overall quite nice there are a few off nodes. The syrupiness is a bit much, and the zingy sour nodes really could have used something--not hops, even, but some spice on the yeast--to cut into them.

The body is surprisingly firm, though, and while this is a sipper it still goes down like gold. Overall a very fine beer, but maybe not quite what I was hoping it would be.

mynie, Jun 19, 2008
Photo of tpd975
4.38/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Many thanks to Joey R for this one. I had had it on draft now I get to sample it in the bottle.

A: Nice bright brownish black hue with a little head. Spotty lace was noted.

S: The aroma is of wonderful deep dark fruits like plums and raisins. There is a bready malty backbone that makes its self known. Tinges of booze soaked dark cherries and a dash of chocolate.

T: Very nice. Who knew you could pack something so boozy, hoppy, roasty, dark fruity, and damn good in a bottle.

M: Very thick with ample carbonation and a blast of booze.

D: Sip slowly my friend, cause this one will dump a whole can of whoop ass on you if not.

tpd975, Jun 06, 2008
Photo of bbothen
4.05/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle poured into a snifter.

Thanks to Sarcastro for the trade on this one.

A - Dark ominous murky chocolate brown with barely any head, just a tiny bit around the glass. Looks yummy & potent. Can't wait.

S - Smells of sweet caramel & toffee. Dried fruit and raisin. And sweet sweet booze. Wow, I cant wait to taste this.

T - Sweet caramel & fruitiness in the front with a warm/dry alcohol finish. There's some nutiness or wood in there as well. Very complex.

M - Very smooth & full bodied. A joy.

D - This is a sipper. Drinks every bit like a 9.5%er.

I really enjoyed this and will gladly have more. In fact I'll be seeking this one out again. This is a cold evening warmer.

bbothen, Jun 04, 2008
Photo of gford217
4.22/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle courtesy of Knight84 and Hoppymeal poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a dark brown mahogany with a small dense head that diminishes quickly leaving almost no bubbles and no lacing.

S: Big caramel malt smell dominates the nose with raisins and molasses mixed in. There is also a definite alcohol sting in there as well.

T: Taste follows the smell with molasses and raisins up front giving way to the huge caramel malt taste. The finish is slightly smoky with the alcohol making its presence felt as well.

M: Mouthfeel is smooth and almost syrupy with little carbonation in the mix. The high sugar content makes it a bit sticky.

D: This is an excellent beer though the syrupy sweet mouthfeel takes away from the drinkability slightly. Still, very nice.

gford217, Jun 01, 2008
Photo of rhoadsrage
4.6/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2007
(Served in a snifter)
Thanks to sarcastro for the trade
A- This beer pours a dark brown dense body with a faint amber hue to it. On top is a sticky light tan head that fades in the middle but last around the edges.

S- The smell of caramel malt has notes of darker roasted malt and cinnamon tree bark with a pine needle hop finish.

T- The rich caramel malt flavor is very full with a slight sweetness and a graham note that is almost inky in flavor. There is a faint cinnamon quality to the malt. This big malt flavor blends with the woody bitter notes of piney hops that has a faint mint quality to it. The caramel sweetness lingers just a bit blending with the alcohol nicely.

M- This beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with a very soft alcohol heat making my tongue beg for more. As the beer warms the alcohol increases pulling out the hop flavors and malt flavors at the finish.

D- This beer has a great bold flavor of malt with some interesting malt flavors to it and a nice hop support. The depth seems to unveil itself as the beer warms and this is a great example of this style. I would be interested to see what this beer taste like as it ages becuase the hops add so much to it fresh.

rhoadsrage, May 30, 2008
Photo of SQNfan
4.1/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep brown in color with a very thin head. The nose is quite expressive with scents of toffee, caramel, dark fruits, roasted malt and chocolate. The palate is not quite as dense as I would expect based on the nose. It is well-balanced and comes off feeling light even though it is a heavy beer. While this should age well, I'm not sure how it will change as the flavors already those that I associate with aged beer.

SQNfan, May 17, 2008
Photo of DefenCorps
4.4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Received in trade with goryshkewych. 2007 vintage, split with largadeer.

A: Deep crimson with ruby highlights. Thin tan head

S: Leather and sheesah (hookah tobacco) are what strike me off the bat. There's a hint of smokiness, plums and alcohol. There's also something spicy here. Intriguing and interesting

T: Intense. Medium body to start with with leather and tobacco up front. Fruitiness (plums and raisins) come through followed by a dry finish

M:With the low carbonation and the dry finish, this one is great

D: We ended our drinking session with this. A perfect nightcap.

**Edit: 3rd October 2009.

I drank my second bottle from the 2007 vintage last night and holy crap was it awesome. Fabulous brown sugar, vanilla and spicy alcohol on the nose, with fruity and leather character. Excellently balanced and integrated with a touch of smoke.

The flavors are ridiculously smooth and this is one very easy drinking full-bodied beer, deep and complex with brown sugar, leather, wet wood, figs, prunes and spicy alcohol., Caramel, vanilla, toffee and tobacco round out the flavors and the finish with a prominent tobacco character is AWESOME.
Nose: +0.5, Mouthfeel: +0.5

**Edit 11 March 2012**
2008 Vintage received from Viggo. Thanks, Eric! 11.8% ABV

This vintage seems fruitier and sweeter, both on the nose and the palate, with brown sugar, prunes, raisins and maybe some dates? Less leather, less tobacco, this does remind me of the BB 4D. Lighter in body, making this extremely drinkable. Still, excellent. 4/4.5/4/4.5/4

DefenCorps, May 14, 2008
Photo of seaoflament
4.38/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to tangfoot for sending me this beer in the Top 100 BIF. I was told that this was purchased in the Winter Solstice party on 12/21/07.

Pours a lovely dark brown with a few red spots when held to the light, and a half inch or so of tan foam topped it.

This beer has an intense bread aroma with a mixture of apples, plums, raisins, and cherries. A good presence of yeast and spices makes the aroma even more complex. The malt really steals the show in this beer, raisin and cinnamon bread, toast, and multi-grain bread. The fruitiness would be my second favorite aspect of the nose. The fruits range from dark ones like raisins, plums, figs and prunes to cherries and apples. There's also some caramel in there.

The taste is just as good and as complex as the aroma. First I taste some wheat bread and toast and then a rush of dark fruits in the middle and then a complete turnaround back to toast. The finish has the yeast and spices with just a touch of heat from the alcohol but it does not get in the way of the beer, it actually seems to enhance the flavors. The next couple of sips reveal some apple skins, pears and fleshy prunes. Caramel and butterscotch flavors are also there. The finish is also a bit dry and just enough bitterness to balance out the massive amount of malt sweetness.

The mouth-feel is a touch syrupy at the beginning but once you swallow the carbonation hits the palate and goes down really smooth. The beer residue on the lips leaves them a little sticky.

Old Ales are not a style I particularly seek out or crave but this is one tasty beer and I wouldn't mind drinking this again (I'm glad I at least have one more bottle!).

seaoflament, May 07, 2008
Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of Kryptic: Poured a cloudy burgundy color ale with a small head with minimal retention and some lacing. Aroma of sweet malt with some dry fruit characteristics. Taste is also dominated by sweet malt notes with some dry fruits (plums, figs). Full body with limited filtration and some low carbonation. No alcohol was discernable which is quiet a feta considering the ABV in this beer. Not as complex as I was expecting but very good nonetheless; a great late night sipper for sure.

Phyl21ca, May 06, 2008
Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 918 ratings.