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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Ratings: 951
Reviews: 443
rAvg: 4.28
pDev: 8.88%
Wants: 583
Gots: 218 | FT: 24
Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003

Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%
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Ratings: 951 | Reviews: 443
Photo of gonzo46and2
4.75/5  rDev +11%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Received in a trade from Hoppymeal.

Pours a deep mahogany brown with notes of red. Nice fizzy head despite the age.

Smell is very malty with dark fruits dominating. Cherries, figs, some toasty grain.

Taste is very nicely balanced sweet but not too sweet.

Mouthfeel is fantastic. It's got body but some of the softest carbonation that really lit up the palate.

Easily one of the best sippers out there.

Photo of webmanspidey
4.33/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The 2008 variety... I'd been waiting to try this one for a while and finally gave in.

Bottle poured into Duvel tulip glass. Dark purplish brown color, loads of fizzy tan head. Smell is pretty faint but sweet and fruity.. I'd say grapes, currants, and cherries. There might be some darker sweet aromas as well such as maple syrup and molasses.

More of the same in the taste: a very tart mix of cherries and currants with only the slight twinge of alcohol. Slightly sour, but also slightly sweet. Very well put together, with really almost no alcohol burn. A delicious slow sipping dessert-style beer.

Photo of mikeyv35
4.52/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sample: 12oz. Bottle 2008 Vintage

Great pick for watching the Penguins win the cup.
Congratulations - huge win for the Burgh!
The new dynasty in hockey begins!

This brew poured a deep red/mahogany color w/ a one finger beige head. The lacing on this one was heavy and of small bubbles that diminished quickly and left a light film hanging on the glass for the remainder of the tasting. At first glance I thought it had more the appearance of a Belgian Quad than an Old Ale and seemed a little thin, but I was definately wrong. The nose was of tobacco, dates, figs, and raisins. The taste basically matched the nose - dried fruits up front and a finish of tobacco, slight hop bitterness, booze, and that prototypical Old Ale basement mustiness. As for drinkability, I could drink this all night being an English Barleywine man, and the 12% ABV was well hidden. The mouthfeel on this one was simply amazing! The brew was thick, creamy, chewy, but finished relatively clean due to the high ABV. Overall, this hands down was one of if not the best Old Ales I have ever had the pleasure of drinking, despite the initial out of style appearance.

Photo of Metalmonk
4.6/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Received in trade from brewdan. 2008 edition.

Pours a murky milk-chocolate brown/sienna, with a crackly head that brings to mind tiny bits of crisped rice, and also reminds of a Belgian stout for some reason. The head doesn't last long (what head on a 11.8% beer does?) but never truly disappears either. Fourth Dementia looks regal all the way through, and plenty of lace clings hard and thick to the glass.

Aroma offers black cherries, plump dark raisins, sherry, a little wood and hardly any of the alcohol, which is a plus. A hint of leather comes through with warming.

The flavor took me aback. I knew I loved it right away, but it seemed that with every little sip (and a couple bigger ones) it would give off many different impressions, almost too many to decipher. First I thought of wood and alcohol--almost whisky-like--then I got dark chocolate and molasses. Then vanilla sneaks in, and there's a burnt marshmallow element on the edges. Some deep dark fruit creeps up slowly, but only in a background role. And then I'm back around to the wood, while the impression of the alcohol has significantly diminished, letting the deeper flavors take hold yet providing enough warmth to give you that "comfort beer" kind of feeling (ie. it's like being under tons of covers with a lover on a frigid winter's night only, uh, different). Beguiling, complex, seductive and simply wonderful.

I found the texture to be (mostly) at odds with the personality of the flavors. It's airy and bubbly, a bit sharp and more carbonated than expected from such a beer. I loved its stickiness -- not too clingy, but it keeps the flavor lingering, and for that alone I'm happy enough with the mouthfeel.

A fantastic old ale with tons of depth and complexity. Its 11.8% comes in a very manageable 12-ounce bottle, which was a good call on Kuhnhenn's part. Even though this is my only bottle, I'll remember its personality for a long time. An exceptional and very, very special beer any way you look at it; one of the best I've had in recent memory.

Photo of sholland119
4.47/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A-Pours a clear very dark amber. Thin tan rings around the glass, no lacing.

S-Currants, brown sugar, raisins and a bit of whiskey. Delicious.

T-Raisins, plums, hints of a red wine barrel, brown sugar and warming alcohol. Really tasty.

M-Remarkably light for the style and ABV. A bit of booze lingers on but otherwise very light to drink.

D-Excellent. I would love to have another one to drink...tomorrow.

HV

Photo of MasterSki
4.27/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked this up at Winter Solstice - must have got a an unusual bottle, as it dates from 2006 and claimed to be "Brewery Aged". Shared with Dave for NBS, and served in a Willimantic pint glass.

A - One finger of dark tan foam that dissipates fairly quickly with some spotty lacing. Transparent cherry-red brown color with a few bubbles lazily rising to the top. Pretty attractive for a small pour of a high-gravity aged old ale.

S - Rum-cake, booze, dark fruits, raisin, chocolate truffle, and some vinous notes. It actually seems a little boozier than the listed 9.5% - doesn't seem significantly lighter than 5th Dementia in any case. There's also something the smells a little woody - but I'm pretty sure this isn't barrel-aged.

T - Again - lots of the same flavors - raisin, caramel, chocolate truffle, booze - There's also an oak/smoke aftertaste that lends a slightly sour or bittering quality to the finish. I'm surprised that two years of brewery aging hasn't mellowed this out a little more. (I'm also relieved it isn't infected, like many older Kuhnhenn bottles.)

M - Lots of residual stickiness, smooth, creamy, full-bodied, with some nice warming alcohol heat.

D - I split a 12oz bottle with two other people - probably ended up with 5oz at most - and yet it seemed like the perfect serving size. It's just so rich and boozy. Definitely a slow sipper, and perfect as a dessert beer or a night cap.

Photo of wagenvolks
4.52/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I absolutely love this beer. Many thanks to Deniz (JDV) for hooking me up with a killer freebie!

My pour slowly fills the Corsendonk tulip with an opaque, mahogany-plum body, while a thick, fluffy cap of manila foam slowly recedes, clinging to the edges of the glass. Exceptional aroma on this Old Ale, as melted butterscotch and caramel candies balance with a kiss of dusty chocolate and a ton of dark fruit. I'm literally having to swat away the fruit flies from this beer, as notes of raisin, honeydew, and plum repeatedly draw them (and my nose) to the glass.

Man, this stuff is good. Starts off with a thick sweetness of dark raspberry and toffee, before quickly giving way to earthy chocolate nibs and a touch of oxidation. The 9.5% ABV is hidden very well, as a kiss of raisin rum lingers on the finish with some musty hops. Creamy, velvety-smooth mouthfeel to the thick body, and the carbonation level is spot-on. I hope old age is like this Old Ale...that way, I'd look forward to getting 4th Dementia!

Photo of paco1029384756
4.57/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours a deep mahogany color with a short creamy off white head.

Scent of dark fruit, grassy hops, caramel, and alcohol. Strong and boozy, very good.

Taste of caramel, chocolate, earth, honey, molasses, sugars and hops. Sweet and a bit spicy, delicious.

Mouthfeel is medium heavy bodied with good carbonation.

Photo of brewdlyhooked13
4.92/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Appearance - pours a brownish caramel into a tasting glass, two fingers of beer and three fingers of light tan foam. A mosaic of lace as the head slowly recedes. It never does go away, though, it stays at a solid bubbly cap.

Aroma - caramel and fruit. Cola, figs, brown sugar, Joseph's aspirin. Lots of cool aromas here, a fine palatte of smells.

Taste - big sweet, brown sugared malts. Some fruity notes, figgy and sweet, orange notes at times. A delicious wave of coffee on the swallow, where did that come from? Who cares...the aftertaste has notes of licorice and sneaky abv heat.

Mouthfeel - big and creamy, pretty well carbonated.

Drinkability - awesome stuff. Major props to crazynelson for hooking me up with a bottle of this. Man, this is good. A fine pick for review 1200, thanks Nelson.

Photo of brokenleadedcask
4.28/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2008 vintage

Pouring this into my generic snifter it produced a ton of head. Half the glass filled with an off white, tight bubbled foam. Once the head subsided aromas of raisin, pear and yeast rose to meet me. For a high alcohol beer (over %11) only a slight amount of alcohol can be detected. They also covered the alcohol well in the taste. Flavors of port, more raisin notes, fresh apples and there was a very slight bit of smoke. On the tongue it has a spicy sharp bite on the taste buds and pleasant lingering after taste. This beer is a real treat and presents complex flavors in every sip.

Photo of OneDropSoup
4.45/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Much love to crazynelson for the trade!

Pours a dark brown, almost black close to the head, with a cola brown/amber "base" (the bottom). Would look stout-like if it weren't for the big bubbles rising to form the head, which is beige & a finger thick. Heavy lacing all around.

Smells like a barley wine -- both alcoholic & sweet, bready, smell some molasses or honey. Taste packs a big, malty sweetness, with those honey & molasses notes intensified. Almost a sticky taste, like maple syrup, but so rich. Some dark fruity flavors, like fig. This profile lists it at 9.5% ABV -- the bottle says 11.8%, a significant difference that comes through here. Though the alcohol is not too-too forward, it provides a warming feel (as opposed to a burning one). The taste is wonderful, I only reign it in slightly because it borders on too much.

The mouthfeel is interesting, as the sugars in the taste lead me to expect a sticky feeling, but it's not actually there. Moderately full -- coats the mouth without being sticky & sugary. This is a bountiful beer, I like it a lot, but not a repeat performer in one session. I'd definitely look for this on a winter evening.

Photo of younger35
3.97/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received this brew quite some time back. This will be my third brew from Kuhnhenn and so far I'm not overly impressed. Drank from my Ithaca Excelsior tulip. Non dated bottle, which according to my buddy means this is pre 2007.

Appearance- Pours a very dark brownish red with a small half finger white head that recedes quickly. A lily pad cap is left with a very thin collar that leaves zero lacing.
Smell- Very fruity and dark with a strong raisin and fig scent. Some berry tones as well consisting of blackberry's and raspberries. Loads of caramel and brown sugar as well as sherry and candied cherries. Perhaps a touch of vanilla as the beer seems to smell sweeter as it warms.
Taste- Much like the nose it starts exceedingly fruity with booze soaked cherries and figs. The alcohol has a fairly significant bite yet the beer remains amazingly smooth. Loads of toffee, brown sugar, molasses and sherry seem to coat my entire mouth. Some light accents of chocolate and sherbet give way to deep earthy tones of tobacco and leather. A lingering bit of fruit and slight astringency finish the beer.
Mouthfeel- Not overly full or really all that heavy considering how big this brew is. Very lightly carbonated with a slick warming feel.
Drinkability- Well considering I'm not a huge Old Ale fan I did really enjoy this brew. It took me quite awhile to finish this brew but I did enjoy the heck out of it. It was a nice change of pace from my usual choices. Tasty stuff!

Photo of tmoneyba
4.3/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Draft at MBG Festival in Ann Arbor.

Poured dark amber with medium head that diminished slowly with good lacing. Full complex sweet aroma. Medium body with a smooth texture and flat carbonation. Complex sweet flavor with a medium to heavy sweet finish that was cut short by the alcohol bite.

Good beer for after dinner cigar.

Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.98/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours brown in color with some very nice ruby highlights around the edges. Smell is classic old ale. Lots of malts, toffee and just a bit of alcohol rearing it's ugly head to mix it up a bit.
Flavor is huge. Some more huge malts, more toffee and some nice dark fruit to round it out. Again, I keep getting a bit more of the alcohol than I care to notice and it detracts a little from the beer. It's hard to hide the alcohol when it's at close to 12%, but it was a little bit too evident. Very big and smooth on the mouthfeel.
A whole bottle would be a bit much. This is a very nice sipper to sit back and savor and enjoy.

Photo of BelgianAleSlut
4.48/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2008 vintage, 11.8%. ABV is quite different from other years apparently.

$23.99/6 12 oz. which is a bargain (1/2 off) compared to buying 6 drinks at brewery.

Pours dark toffee colored, semi-cloudy with nice thick head that dissipates slowly.

Smells like a malt soda.

Tastes very sweet, but is complex and comes in layers. The flavors change quite a bit from sip to swallow, and also sip to sip. Caramel, raisins, redpop, and has a little vinous quality. Enough bitterness to put up with all the malt - sweetness doesn't linger which helps to keep from getting sick from the high amount of sugar.

Thick on the tongue, creamy. Carbonation is subtle, however it is in good amount for beer.

Drinkability is good based on the need to only have one or two of these at a time.

Really like this beer, good to buy a six-pack and use one as a weekly reward for putting up with all the sh*t at work. Might be better to let this one age for a couple years.

Photo of GClarkage
4.59/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

03/12/09- Received via trade with former BA member Jetsbeer.

Presentation- 2005 Vintage, bottled in February. Best by 2011. 12oz bottle poured into my Old Stock Ale glass.

Appearance- Deep cherry, mahagoney, burnt caramel color. Slight bubbly head on a fairly hard pour. Spotty and watery-like lace left behind. Not uncommon per style.

Smell- Very pungent and wonderful nose. Burnt and heavy caramel malt, sugary cherry notes, minor alcohol. Smells a bit like alcoholic brownies.

Taste- Thought this was much higher of an abv. Lots of flavor for it's strength. Strong toasted and roasted caramel malted flavor. Minor chocolate notes added with some raisin, date and cherry flavors. Fairly bready and the sweetness isn't too strong.

Mouthfeel- Very smooth and silky. Not really creamy. Mildly thick. Lower carbonation, but sharp at times. Nice dark fruity aftertaste with a light sugary coating.

Drinkability- Finally got around to drinking this after aquiring this in '05. Great and easy drinking Old Ale. Score for Kuhnhenn. Have my bottle of Raspberry Eisbock from '05 or earlier tomorrow night.

Photo of DavoleBomb
4.09/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter. 2007 Vintage.

3.5 A: Motor oil black. Had trouble forming a head, but the 1/2 finger or so that formed had decent retention and lots of lacing.

4.5 S: Really sweet initially. Very strange combination of aromas that I've never experienced before. Tobacco, raisins, plum, dark cherry, and molasses all poke through. A bit boozy as well. Unique and pleasant.

4.0 T: Pretty much everything in the nose is here again. Alcohol is very apparent and makes this quite boozy overall, though quite good.

4.0 M: Thick, syrupy body and low on carbonation.

4.0 D: I'd drink this again. This is my first old ale, so I'm intrigued to try more.

Photo of david131
4.05/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2007 Vintage.

A- A deep ruddy brown with some ruby hues. A white head maintains itself with decent retention.

S- Some alcohol, cinnamon, caramel, spiciness. Some oak with some nice agedness. A whole bunch of raisin aroma. Not too shabby.

T- Same as the aroma with the alcohol amazingly well hidden. Maybe a bit warm, but all the flavors come together very well.

M- Not too hot at all. A little sweet and just a bit cloying.

D- For the ABV, this is pretty drinkable. Some age has done this well. I'm impressed.

Photo of BMoney575
3.8/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sampled on 2-21-09
2007 Vintage
Reviewed from notes.

A: Off white head, deep brown, almost purple color.

S: Fruity and boozy, lots of age and oak. Very strong.

T: Quite earthy at first, strong and malty, with dark fruit and raisin flavors. Booze adds a pleasant finish.

M: Nice, about right for the style, a little thin for my tastes.

D: Good, considering the abv. Definitely a sipper.

Photo of mikereaser
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Old Ale 2007

A - Pours a murky nut brown with no foam, just a ring of small bubbles around the glass

S - brown sugar and a bit of cherry with a bit of a boozy smell

T - very complex flavor, a strong malt background with hints of raisins, coffee, plums and a bit of alcohol

M/D - This is a very complex and flavorful beer, there is so much going on that each sample seems different. Not one for an every day beer, but really nice treat once in a while.

Photo of brewandbbq
4.03/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, 2007 vintage at 52 degrees.

Pours dark mahogany, almost opaque, but when held to the light a ruby clarity shines through. An inch-plus head of ultra dense froth sank slowly and revealed a rocky skim coat on the surface with plenty of clingy lacework.

Aromatics lead off with rich malt, chipped toffee, dried figs, plump raisins, and scorched caramel. A hint of wet leather follows through along with a dash of cocoa.

On the full side of medium bodied with a cremay, chewy mouthfeel. Carbonation level is right on. Lively enough to keep things from being syrupy.

Plump ripe malt, drizzeled caramel, toffee syrup, and malt-steeped raisins start the palate. A mild vineous note pulls through along with warming alcohol and a hint of sherry.

Finishes with a lingering malt base, a hint of warmth, and toffee-coated raisins.

As far as Kuhnhenn goes, this is one of thier "dryer" offerings. While it has plenty of residuals and a whallop of malt with an extract nod, it remains balanced for an Old Ale. Where it's lacking though is the straight up vineousity thats an integral part of the style.

Photo of tjthresh
4/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours brown with some nice reddish hues. There's a ring of dirty white foam around the edge. Bold nose with cherry pits, Werthers candies, Tootsie Rolls, and a bit of chewing tobacco. The flavor is rich with chocolate and chew. If they actually made chewing tobacco that tastes like this, I made pick it up again. Full body with just a bit of carbonation and a sweet finish. Very yummy stuff.

Photo of CrellMoset
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

UPDATE: 09/07/2009, bottle courtesy of goryshkewych. Thanks to a great BA. 2008 vintage. A few notes:

* This bottle is raging infected, but there's still a lot of good stuff here. I really, really, really wish Kuhnhenn would fix their damn infection issues.

* I'm gonna knock the appearance up to a 4.0, but that's mostly probably based on the fact that the (infected) head on this one has some amazing lift and staying power. However, the lacing is also pretty nice, too, so I assume the head would have been impressive on a regular bottle.

* Still tons of good stuff here - sweet cherries, coffee, toast, caramel, dark toffee, earth, and coconut come through, some more in the aroma, others more strongly in the taste, and though I have a feeling that a certain amount of moderate tartness that is present is imparted by an unwelcome friend, it's still solid.

* My dream is to one day try a complete bottle of this that is not infected. But I'm not holding my breath.

***
2008 vintage, enjoyed at the Sexual Chocolate release, 2009, Winston Salem, NC. Enjoyed in a sampling glass.

Appearance: A hazed reddish brown with minimal head and only a thin, white collar. Probably about what you'd expect from a brew of this abv% - 11.8%, this vintage. The carbonation is faint, very slow. This brew is approximately the color of the lockers at my law school - that is, way too expensive looking, cherrywood mahogany-esque.

Aroma: Brown sugar and molasses dominate, with cherry notes a close second, and the two blend very well together. It's slightly medicinal, but heavily fruity, heavy-smelling, with notes of pear and apple skin. A few spicy notes as well.

Taste: Very nice. Cherry cough syrup is the first thing me and many others tasting it thought of, but in a good way. There's also pear notes, as well as tons of heavy, well roasted notes, brown sugar, maple syrupy, honey. A few green apple notes mingle pleasantly with some complex spices.

Mouthfeel: Thick, syrupy, heavy, with minimal carbonation resulting in a smooth and even mouthfeel with the slightest prickle.

Drinkability: This is one big bold beer, flavorful and intense. I'd love to try a whole bottle of this one sometime (and so it shall remain on my wants), but I'm very glad to have tried this portion thanks to a very generous fellow beer advocate (perhaps not a BA - we were in mixed website company, after all). A truly tasty and well-made beer, and though I have to knock it down a few points on drinkability due to the ~12% abv (not the 9.5% listed here, though I know Kuhnhenn does change its abv%s constantly), I can't in good faith knock it down too far - it's just too good!

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4.13/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I stopped by Kuhnhenn's on a recent trip to Detroit. There were so many great beers on tap it was hard to choose just one. Frank at the bar said this was his favorite, so I went with it. Here's the review.

Appearance: Pours a deep brown with ruby highlights. The short tan head is retained as a skim and leaves pretty impressive lacing clinging to the tulip glass. Liquid appears viscous.

Smell: The smell is seriously strong of alcohol and syrupy malts. I know I could be easily overwhelmed - it's going to take me a little while to get through this one.

Taste/Mouthfeel: The taste is a mouthful of super-sweet syrupy malts, chewy raisins and prunes and toasty bread. The alcohol is clearly pronounced, and the strength of it seems to grow as the beer warms. The feel is heavy and viscous.

Drinkability: I know Old Ales aren't supposed to be easy to throw back, but this one posed an exceptional challenge for me. I drank it very slowly over the course of an hour and a half (and it was only a 10oz pour!). Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed taking it slow and noticing different things in the beer as it warmed, but it's definitely a good beer to limit to one in a session.

Photo of TexIndy
4.03/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got in a trade with phyl21ca - many thanks! Poured from a 12oz bottle into a snifter. Opened with a very audible pop. It had a crazy label on it. Black and white (from a laser printer maybe) with the worst glue job I've ever seen on a beer. Rippled to hell and back and partly torn. No date on it so can't tell the year. Seems that most years have a date but not this one. Bottling code on bottom of bottle but no way to decipher it. It was a dark, dark russet brown with mahogany highlights. Mostly opaque except the edges which showed bits of yeast. Tiny bit of carb and fast sliding lacing. Had a good sized beige head that slowly settle to a collar with broken foam.

The aroma was very much like barleywine. Dark fruit, lots of alcohol, very sweet malt. The taste was very sweet. Approaching cloying but stopped just shy. Alcohol is very present here as well. The sweet hits right at the front and never fades. Same with the alcohol. Halfway thru and I'm feeling it. Good buzz with warm throat and stomach. This is definitely a sipping beer. A good beer for sharing as well. Wish the sweetness was offset a bit but still very tasty. The mouthfeel is good. Very thick and creamy. It's like you are chewing it instead of drinking it. But the alcohol bite gets old. The drinkability is hurt by the sweetness and the alcohol presence. While the taste itself is excellent, half of the bottle would be plenty for me.

Overall, an excellent beer that I'm glad I finally got to try. Recommend especially if you like barley wines. For me, one is enough unless I can easily get another.

UPDATE: after my review, I found out that the vintage was 2008 so this one is still pretty hot and could use some time to age. Will seek another one and properly age it and re-review.

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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 951 ratings.