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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Reviews: 445
Hads: 988
rAvg: 4.25
pDev: 6.12%
Wants: 597
Gots: 217 | FT: 25
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Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003

Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%
2011 13.5%
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Reviews: 445 | Hads: 988
Photo of seaoflament
4.37/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to tangfoot for sending me this beer in the Top 100 BIF. I was told that this was purchased in the Winter Solstice party on 12/21/07.

Pours a lovely dark brown with a few red spots when held to the light, and a half inch or so of tan foam topped it.

This beer has an intense bread aroma with a mixture of apples, plums, raisins, and cherries. A good presence of yeast and spices makes the aroma even more complex. The malt really steals the show in this beer, raisin and cinnamon bread, toast, and multi-grain bread. The fruitiness would be my second favorite aspect of the nose. The fruits range from dark ones like raisins, plums, figs and prunes to cherries and apples. There's also some caramel in there.

The taste is just as good and as complex as the aroma. First I taste some wheat bread and toast and then a rush of dark fruits in the middle and then a complete turnaround back to toast. The finish has the yeast and spices with just a touch of heat from the alcohol but it does not get in the way of the beer, it actually seems to enhance the flavors. The next couple of sips reveal some apple skins, pears and fleshy prunes. Caramel and butterscotch flavors are also there. The finish is also a bit dry and just enough bitterness to balance out the massive amount of malt sweetness.

The mouth-feel is a touch syrupy at the beginning but once you swallow the carbonation hits the palate and goes down really smooth. The beer residue on the lips leaves them a little sticky.

Old Ales are not a style I particularly seek out or crave but this is one tasty beer and I wouldn't mind drinking this again (I'm glad I at least have one more bottle!). (1,665 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of Kryptic: Poured a cloudy burgundy color ale with a small head with minimal retention and some lacing. Aroma of sweet malt with some dry fruit characteristics. Taste is also dominated by sweet malt notes with some dry fruits (plums, figs). Full body with limited filtration and some low carbonation. No alcohol was discernable which is quiet a feta considering the ABV in this beer. Not as complex as I was expecting but very good nonetheless; a great late night sipper for sure. (497 characters)

Photo of largadeer
4.32/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Dark but clear brown with reddish highlights. Half an inch of head forms from a gentle pour, which settles into a ring.

Smell: Dried fruit, molasses, old leather - very earthy and bold, the aroma really jumps out of the glass.

Taste & mouthfeel: Rich toffee-like sweetness with underlying notes of prunes and fruitcake. Hops come out mid-finish, earthy and herbal with a lasting bitterness. A mineral quality appears at warmer temperatures, bringing to mind iron. Heavy/syrupy on the palate with low-to-moderate carbonation, definitely a sipper but a highly enjoyable one.

Notes: Thanks to Dyan for sharing this one. This typically isn't my favorite style but this one definitely won me over. (707 characters)

Photo of brewcrew76
4.53/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottled on 2-16-05 - Best before 2011

A - Pours deep brown with mahogany and ruby highlights with the smallest tan head that disappeared immediately.

S - Rich caramel and toffee, rum soaked raisin, figs, prunes, dates, molasses and a woody, earthy leather smell.

T - Sweet rich caramel, carmalized brown sugar, nutty, molasses, woody bourbon like alcohol, dark fruits, raisins and a hint of vanilla. Complex.

M - Thick with little carbonation but not quite syrupy. Alcohol is noticeable but compliments flavor instead of taking anything away.

D - Hands down the best old ale I have tried. A very nice sipper. (613 characters)

Photo of 3leggeddub
4.38/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz. bottle into a Rapscallion snifter.

Appearance: Pours dark brown, almost black, with nice chestnut highlights. Minimal caramel/off white head. Lots of sticky lacing down the glass.

Smell: Sweet dried fruits, figs, toffee. A bit of alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Thick, bordering on being too slick until it's cut by a slightly dry finish.

Taste: Sweet up front; dry in the end. Roasty bitterness. Dried fruit. Alcohol spice. A bit of breadiness. Rum soaked fruit cake comes to mind.

Drinkability: This is a winding down for the night sipper. Very good but indulgence should be limited. You might want to split even a 12oz. bottle with a friend.

Overall: Fourth Dementia is a complex brew that drinks more like a sherry or a liqueur. It is potent and forces you to respect that while remaining enjoyable. I can imagine sipping this on a cold New England evening in front of a fire. [Now if only I had a fireplace.] This might sound like heresy, but Fourth Dementia made me think of my experience --limited though it may be-- with Sam Adam's Utopias. Not the mouthfeel perse, but the flavor profiles are very similar. I wouldn't necessarily say that the Kuhnhenn is as good, however, I would say that if you want a hint of what can be found in a bottle of Utopias try Fourth Dimension at a fraction of the cost to see if it's up your alley. (1,352 characters)

Photo of Floydster
4.49/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle acquired in a trade with Faro, thanks for giving me the opportunity to try this brew, bottled on 2-16-05, best before date of 2011, has been in my cellar since October, poured into my Dogfish Head snifter

A-Ruby red color with some light brown highlights, 1/8 inch bubbly light tan head that went away immediately, no retention or lacing

S-Caramel, sweeet malt, booze, plums, figs, raisins, dates, still a hint of hoppiness after three years, oak, vanilla, brandy, oak, and sugar

T-Started off with a big caramel flavor, followed by some dark fruits and very sweet malt, the finish was warming with a hint of brandy and oak, as it warmed the sweetness popped out even more and the vanilla shined through with some booze in the aftertaste, probably more balanced with more hoppiness when fresh, but they recommend at least four months to six years of age for this brew, great flavor overall

M-Hot, sweet, and aggressive mouthfeel, thin to medium body, not much carbonation at all, taste lingered for a long time, attacked the taste buds

D-Could have drank more than one bottle of this, alcohol is hidden great for a beer above nine percent, smooth and easy to drink, not too heavy on the stomach

Second beer from Kuhnhenn and it was great like the first one, would love to try the bourbon barrel version of this, one of the better olde ales I have ever had, would love to drink again, highly recommended (1,424 characters)

Photo of BeerTruth
4.45/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Thanks to saucya and Kan from RB for this highly rated Kuhnhenn brew.

12 oz. bottle allowed to warm up some before pouring into a nonic. 2007 vintage.

A style I'm not too crazy for, but this is supposed to be the best of 'em so let's give it a go.

Pours a deep brown with an amber outline. Two fingers of tan head top this beer that dies down to a creamy layer leaving some nice webbing on the sides of the glass. Smell is of ripe dark fruits and oak. Very interesting merlot aroma, not strong, and very pleasant. Rich caramel, thick molasses, and a hint of booze in the nose as well. Raisins and fig on the tongue first followed by an interesting piney hop flavor. Winey oak and dark cherries with some booze towards the end. Aftertaste is somewhat dry with hints of dates and brandy. Lots of malt throughout, but hops are there too. Medium to full body with a rich and creamy feel. Carbonation is light, but complements the mouthfeel so well. The alcohol is there, so this one is a sipper for sure. Very complex flavors, interested to see what some age would do to this. (1,075 characters)

Photo of Monkeyknife
4.58/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a carton on my last visit to the brewery.

Poured from a bottle a dark ruby-brown color with a very thin tan head.

Sweet aroma of malts, raisins, dark cherries, and brandy.

The taste is heavy on the malts along with the dark cherries, molasses, brown sugar, and vanilla. The alcohol is bright and warming. The finish is surprisingly clean.

Full mouthfeel, rich and creamy and lightly carbonated. The alcohol leaves a nice warmth on the lips and tongue.

An enjoyable sipping beer and so good on many levels. A must try. (532 characters)

Photo of Hogie
4.57/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A-Dark reddish/brown with virtually no head. What little foam there was, was tan in color, but dissipated almost immediately leaving only a very thin ring around the glass. A few very small bubbles visible at pour, but after a few seconds carbonation is not visible.

S-Sweet, fruity brandy like aroma with hint of oak. No discernible hop aroma.

T- Starts off sweet, malty with alcohol/brandy flavors dominating. Finishing with oak flavors and here comes the hops. Not so much hop flavor as definite hop bitterness. Nice warmth as it goes down.

M- Feels silky, almost syrupy at first, but the carbonation that was absent visually, now quickly reveals itself in the mouth releasing some of the flavors mentioned earlier along with that hop bitterness.

D- Very good Old Ale but most definitely not a session beer. I wish I had shared it with a friend (12oz too much for me). This is one to enjoy in small amounts on a cold winters night IMO. (944 characters)

Photo of DIM
4/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2007 vintage

a: This was a clear,very dark brownish cherry red. It poured with a minimal light tan head that quickly faded to a ring around the glass.

s: At various times I detected, very ripe cherries soaked in brandy, sharply sour apples, raw sugar cane, earthy peats, vanilla, and molasses. The fruit aromas were the most noticeable. As it warmed some flowery smells emerged as well.

t: Dominated by sour cherry flavors along with some raisins. I also tasted some dry, flowery apples, mild sugary peats, vanilla, and alcohol. Very good, but a bit out of balance.

m: Very thick, bordering on too syrupy. The carbonation was subtle but effective.

d: This was quite tasty, but it wan't the best old ale I've tried. Thanks to goryshkewych for this one. (756 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.4/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a clear, reddish-brown body with a small ring of white bubbles.

Smell: Lucious malt aroma with notes of caramel, dark fruits, and vanilla sugar cookies. Not too shabby!

Taste: Strong maltiness back by a rich, full flavor of toasted caramel and gooey dark brown sugar. Very light touch of roast. Some vanilla. Layers of stewed fruits. Mild, earthy hop bitterness. Soothingly sweet, warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium carbonation. A bit chewy.

Drinkability: Well! That was quite a lovely old ale. I definitely recommend acquiring a bottle (or three). (587 characters)

Photo of mikesgroove
5/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I want to start out by saying; without trouble, this is the best old ale I have ever had in my life. It literally brought a completely new meaning to me about what this style could do. Simply outstanding in every possible way. Now that I have gotten that out of the way let me go a little bit more in depth.



Received a few bottles of this in a trade about a month ago; however, I was unable to get to one until now. I decided last night to pull one from the cellar and give it a whirl, as I had been dying to try this gem. Pulled it out and let it warm up to about 55 degrees before pouring it into a Selin's Grove snifter, which I had also recently received. Upon the first pour, I immediately noticed how dark this was. I t was completely opaque except for just the smallest amount of reddish brown that peaked through on the sides when you held it up directly to the light, but still this was enormously big looking. Deep mahogany tones at first gave the impression of an Abyss, with nothing coming up from it, but a few seconds passed and a beautiful looking tannish colored head rose up from it. At least two fingers high, it surprised me as I thought this might have been lifeless. The head went nowhere, I mean nowhere as it hung around for a good five to ten minutes, when it did settle, it was only down to about three quarters of an inch and that hung around throughout the entire session. Rich tan lace coated the entire glass and really just pushed things over the edge for me on this one. Absolutely perfect look.



So I went in for a whiff, I had to see how this was going to be coming at me, and again I was floored. Such a rich deep caramel smell coming off of this, literally took me by surprise. Nice aroma of oak and alcohol mixing and swirling around with it now, really starting to pick up steam the warmer it got. So complex, with rich earthy tones running rampant through it. The flavors, if at all possible turned out to be better then this. It was insane what I was sipping on here by this point. Almost at a loss for words, this was the old ale I had always searched for. I was thrilled to be having this. Deep malt bomb of the highest degree now taking shape all around me, utterly fantastic in every way. Warm oak infused notes of brandy like alcohol running over the tongue, so sweet and sugary. As you roll it around you start to notice there is a little bit of a bitter bite to this one. Way down deep under all of the malt, there was a subtle bitter hoppiness, very grainy and earthy, but it was there, and really pushed through on the finish. Long drawn out finish it was, really letting you savor every last bit of the enormous and utterly amazing flavor that this one provided. I am floored. The alcohol was so well blended, it was a deadly combination. Soo mellow and smooth, understated, it lured you in and would not let you go. The body was as rich and smooth as the flavor. Huge creamy body on this, and I found the carbonation to be spot on as well. It was just soo complex, with every sip letting you discover more and more flavors. Deep dark fruit now coming through for me, really started to actually dominate the scene all together. Huge raisin and plum notes giving it that sweet but yet tart dark fruit flavor we all come to love. A spicy touch in the back perhaps, but here comes that little bit of bitterness to wrap it all up. Wow, this was amazing.



Overall, I do not know what else I can really say about this one. It was, to be it in context, not only the single best Old Ale I have ever had. This may honestly be my favorite beer I have ever had, it was just that good. It is everything you want in a late night sipper, to me it was just perfect, I could not think of another thing that could be done. You must get this and send it to me, I have to have this one again. Fantastic in every way. (3,856 characters)

Photo of Georgiabeer
4.4/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks very much to WeisGuy for the chance to try this beer. Pours a dark brown, close to black with a thin head that fades to a very thin ring. Smells of licorice and blackstrap molasses, slightly treacly, and herbal, but not sweet. The taste starts with more of that European style licorice flavor- not sweet, but more earthy and bitter, in fact a deeply herbal bitterness is present in this beer, like Fernet Branca. To me, that is delicious, but be prepared for the amaro like bitterness. More blackstrap on the finish. Complex and delicious. Low carbonation and a tiny bit sticky in the mouthfeel, but still reasonable. Very interesting, I like this a lot, but I wouldn't call this a particularly balanced beer. (716 characters)

Photo of kirok1999
4.37/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to mcallister for the generosity. Served at about 60 degrees.
Pours a dark copper/bronze with just a wisp of light foam around the edge of the snifter.
Smell is of massive dark fruit with a candy sweetness.
Taste is a dark caramel malt bomb. Sweet and bready as well with lots of plum and raisin. Some mild carbonation and a slight spice note in the middle. Very dark caramel in the finish.
One of the best old ales I've ever had. (438 characters)

Photo of BillyB
4.32/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very interesting and complex beer.

Pours an almost reddish brown color with a thin, whispy, tan colored layer of foam.

Aromas of dark and dried fruits, wood, earth, mollasses, honey, caramel, toffee and spice. Some nutty, alcohol and slight oxidation is noticeable as well.

Tastes of big malty sweetness followed by an impressive bitterness (not what I had expected) that helps with the balance. Some nutty, caramel and mollasses flavors. Woody alcohol.

Mouthfeel is medium to full with a chewy body, nice alcohol warmth and a sweet finish. (544 characters)

Photo of DarkerTheBetter
4.27/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to hoppymeal for this one.

This one pours a dark brown with light strawberry and copper around the edges. The head is a frothy tan and manila film.

Smells like fruitcake and fruity liquors with a nice hidden sting of alcohol. I'm also getting a bit of ginger bread here too.

Tastes big and sweet with a caramel kick. The sweet punch falls out into a charred, caramelized sugar and burnt coffee. The finish is still sweet and bready.

Fells thin but with a froth of carbonation that holds things up. Quite clean and dry.

A tasty treat, but a little dry for the style. (579 characters)

Photo of jwolfie70
4.02/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Overlord for letting me share a bottle of this with him.

Pours a dark reddish brown. Smell is of molasses and malty syrup, with dried dark fruits (i.e. prunes, figs and raisons) dominating. Taste is similar to the smell, with some alcohol spiciness that keeps the beer from getting cloying. I could not see myself driking too much of this at one time, but that is ok as it should be sipped.

This was a long sought after beer for me, and it did not disappoint. (471 characters)

Photo of Pointman
5/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

By far one of the greatest beers ever made. It is too bad this place doesn't get more reviews.

The Fourth is the best they make.

Pours very dark in color with a nice off tan head. Has almost a molasses type color too it. If you have ever had sorgum, you'll know the color.

How do give a beer the rich caramel, molasses, chocolate, leather and velvet taste and flavor? I don't know how the brothers do it.

This is a big beer, where the ABV is covered nicely. I have to limit myself to one per visit. It finishes strong & smooth.

I have 12 bottles, so I will give them a taste once the K-brewery runs out....carry me over until next December...

Serving type: on-tap (670 characters)

Photo of Overlord
4.34/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a not terribly attractive ruddy brown. Small head that quickly dissipates, but remains carbonated throughout (which definitely helps with a thick, syrupy beer like this).

Smells mostly of raisins/figs/prunes -- I have a real problem telling these three ingredients apart -- with a hint of sweeter notes. There are definitely some sweet fruits in here as well, dark/tart cherries, maybe something more exotic. I can't tell. There's definitely a strong molasses/caramel undercurrent.

Very, very good. (506 characters)

Photo of cooncat
3.58/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Serving was on tap at the Brew Kettle's 2008 Ogre Fest (Strongsville, OH.)

Appearance is a deep garnet color of good clarity. Minimal head and lacing, which is to be expected for a beer of this strength.

Unfortunately, this was not served in the proper glassware to extract a good sense of the true nose. What I got was light, but decidedly fruity with faint notes of alcohol. The taste is of dark fruits; raisins and plums come to mind. Supposedly, this has a 30 IBU rating, but those hops are completely hidden by the full bodied fruitiness of the sweet malts. The sweetness is almost to the point of being cloying, but doesn't cross the line ... but only by the closest margin. The sweet fruity flavor last to the end, at which time the alcohol makes a showing in some warmth. This is hard to make out as an Old ale, when it is so close to a Strong Ale and/or a barleywine. The sweetness would make for a fine after dinner drink, but I don't think you could do more than one.

An interesting offering, and Kuhnhenn certainly has produced yet another 'extreme' beer in the 4th Dimentia. Worth seeking out and trying.

Cheers (1,128 characters)

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.32/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle pours into my glass a hazy ruddy brown hue with notes of red. A small cream colored head shows up and then disappears just as quickly. Aromas of big, dense caramel malts. Sweet dark candied fruits mix in alongside a slightly roasted character. Piney, herbal hops are still apparent in the background. There's a bit of toffee and some spiciness in there as well. Smells rich and inviting.

First sip brings a rush of rich caramel malt along with plenty of dark candied fruits. Cherry, plum and grape notes move in along with an overall sweetness. Some toffee, raisin and a light cocoa as it moves down. This flows into a bit of herbal, slightly piney hop flavor that brings a touch of bitterness with it. Finishes with a lingering sweet caramel malt flavor. Alcohol is warming but well hidden. This is a great big, malty brew.

Mouthfeel is viscous and a bit slick from the sweetness. Not as heavy as I was expecting. Mellow carbonation that works well with the overall brew. This one is a sipper for sure. One bottle does the job in a sitting and this would make a good apertif. This is another tasty Kuhnhenn brew that is worth seeking out. This bottle was brewed on 8-1-04 and still holding up quite well. (1,219 characters)

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.75/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled August 2004; Sampled February 2008
A vigorous pour produces a half-finger thick, frothy, large bubbled head that is a dark tan, lightly amber tinged color. The beer is a burnt amber color and shows brilliantly clear, though chunky, deep ruby hue when held up to the light. Rich concentrated aromatics of oxidized malt extract, sherry, buttery toffee, caramelized berry notes, chewy grain and toasted brown sugar encrusted whole grain bread. A touch of warming alcohol combines with the fruit notes to provide some soft notes reminiscent of a refined brandy. As the beer aerates a bit it becomes quite a bit more fruit focused, the berry notes become much more noticeable as the aged malt notes reminiscent of Sherry meld into the fruit character.

Sweet up front, but this seems to dry out fairly quickly. The beer is quite light bodied for its strength, but still has a fullness to it; along with the ample alcohol, the body easily makes this a sipping brew. Chewy, caramelized malt notes combine with aged Sherry flavors, fruity raisin notes and browned, whole grain bread-like notes. The hop merely play a supporting role here, but do provide some flavor to this brew; soft herbal notes are found up front and pick up some steam with a herbal, slightly astringent, bitter note by the time we get to the long, lingering finish. Actually because this beer is not overly sweet, the hop character that is here provides a nicely balanced note between hop and malt. The alcohol, while not aggressive, is most certainly here and provides a warming character that sort of radiates down my throat. The finish has a bit of dark grain character to it as well; at times hints of chocolate and perhaps a hint of roast grain becomes noticeable.

Tasty, contemplative and interesting, I have a feeling this is close to peaking. When younger I think it would have been too sweet for my tastes, but the oxidation has started to temper this brew & the still noticeable hop character adds a nice balance to the rich, layered malt character. Not bad, but something seems to keep this from being great; perhaps it is a lack of a certain rich, complexity. (2,144 characters)

Photo of jjayjaye
4.82/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a cloudy dark brown color with better than a full finger foamy light tan head, leaving sheets of lacing in its wake. The smell is amazing. An aggressive dark fruit fig and sweet molasses aroma. I'm REALLY taken in by the smell to the point of distraction; maybe i ought to take a mouthful. Wow, what a kick in the pants!. The mouth feel is first very creamy and medium large bodied. The fig of the nose comes through really strong in the flavor then its overwhelmed by an intense molasses taste. Quite sweet. The 9.5. ABV is warming to be sure. I'm not finding that level of alcohol distracting. I'm assessing the weight to be something that i wouldn't session (if i had a frig full of them...which, i don't), but I find it a cinch to drink and I'm savoring the balance as best I can. Lightly carbonated, there is plenty of the alcohol coming through on subsequent mouthfuls and the dark fruit character is lingering nicely. This one is unique and imaginative to be sure; BRAVO!Thanks a lot for the trade Matt. (1,016 characters)

Photo of Lothore
4.82/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A- Pours a deep scarlet hue carrying a small coffee head.

S- The smell is amazing and I know i'm going to blow it on the description but i'm going to try anyway. Sweet bready malt up front followed by an intoxicating dark fruit armoa, figs, possibly hints of plum which lead into a subtle hop afterthought.

T- The taste seems to be the inverse of the smell, some hops up front followed by a gentle wave of dark fruit which sweeps the palate and carries an alcohol warming with it. After that wave ebbs, a hop bitterness lingers. I am definitely going to get my hands on another one and let it age for a year or two. By far the best old ale i've ever experienced.

M- Thick with an ample amount of carbonation for the style.

D- This was such a delight to drink it is almost indescribable. I definitely would not be in the mood for this all the time but on a cold winter night I can think of nothing better. (909 characters)

Photo of drseamus
4.2/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewed on 2/16/05 so almost exactly 3 years old.

A: Poured into my Darkness glass. Very dark mahogany body with a thin ring of head around the outside of the glass.

S: Raisins, caramel, and a bunch of sweetness. Smells like an old ale should.

T: Very strong sweet raisiny flavor. Initial burst of flavor and then it fades quickly leaving a sweet caramel flavor on the tongue.

M: The viscosity of the beer itself it pretty thin but the flavor makes it seem a bit thicker. I usually expect old ales to be a bit thicker but it is very nice.

D: Not bad at all. At a recent barleywine tasting, I ended up thinking a lot of them tasted like old ales. This beer has confirmed my suspicions. It pretty much defines the style. A bit too sweet to drink a ton of though. (767 characters)

Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
94 out of 100 based on 445 ratings.