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Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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844 Ratings
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Ratings: 844
Reviews: 437
rAvg: 4.28
pDev: 9.11%
Wants: 549
Gots: 193 | FT: 26
Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Previously Fourth Dementia

2009 11.8%
2010 13.5%

(Beer added by: marburg on 05-06-2003)
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feloniousmonk

Minnesota

4.47/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Lovely mahogany/crimson color, nice 1/4" creamy cocoa head.
Aroma is vibrant, brimming with fruit, big in the alcohol department, rich and full of burnished fruit, cherries, berries, and grapes...sweetness, interrupted by booze, a satisfying aroma, fit for the best of any barleywine.
In the taste, delicious....smooth, and bursting with overwhelming fruity flavor...not too strong, either, just enough...massive malt, cherries and berries...
I'd anticipated this brew for some time, wondered about it, dreamed of it...love me barleywines, ...would Kuhnhenn's meet my expectations? So far...
...so good..
smooth, and delicious, ...whatever the alcy-hol is, I'm not tasting it...that's a plus...hooo. lordy, this is niceness personified. Oh, so perfect.
Fourth Dementia, you are my new hero.
I will chase you with a favorite barleywine, to compare, but am sure that you are his/her equal...if they are lucky ...
Enough of that, kudos, to the mastery over there in Warren, MI!

Serving type: bottle

05-12-2005 06:37:14 | More by feloniousmonk
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drabmuh

Maryland

3.95/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Matt recently after I told him this beer was on my "long list." THANKS MATT!

Served in a snifter. Beer is dark brown and forms a thin off white head that still leaves some lacing on the glass but overall carbonation levels appear low. Looks OK

Aroma is dark fruits like raisins, sweetness with a back drop of apricots and pears. Interesting. May be slightly oxidized.

Beer is sweet with an apple middle and dry finish. The forward beer is thin but the body fills out in the midpalate somehow to finish with a medium to full body. Interesting. I think this beer would benefit from some age on it. Dirnkability was pretty good, mouthfeel was confusing.

Serving type: bottle

07-02-2010 03:21:30 | More by drabmuh
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russpowell

Oklahoma

4.25/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Got this from Biergartenok, cheers Freddie!

2010 version pours a brownish-mahogany with a pinky of brown.cocoa head. Above average head retention & lacing

S: Sherry, dark fruit & a touch of Bourbon

T: Figs, black currant, dryness, a touch of charred grain up front. Boozey figs as this warms, a touch of cherry & raisin as well, plus plenty of oaky dryness & kist a touch of woody & herbal hops & some toffee notes. Finishes dry, woody, herbal witm much figgyness, a touch of prunes that doesn't help the flavor, some cherry=flovred pipe tobacco & marmalaide

MF: Chewy with minimal carbonation, skews fruitty/malty, warming

This baby screams English flavor, hops are very subtle. This is a nice fire-side ssipper, would love to try a fresh bottle for comparrison, but this is tasty enough as it is

Serving type: bottle

03-02-2012 03:45:01 | More by russpowell
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Kegatron

Pennsylvania

4.5/5  rDev +5.1%

01-24-2014 00:11:15 | More by Kegatron
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Mora2000

Texas

4.22/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to thirdeye11 for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours an amber-red color with a tan head. The aroma is brown sugar with some alcohol, molasses, maple and oak. The flavor is just as complex with cherries, brown sugar, alcohol, toffee and caramel. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A very complex beer that I really enjoyed.

Serving type: bottle

07-10-2010 05:30:40 | More by Mora2000
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Rifugium

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev -6.5%

06-05-2013 00:36:52 | More by Rifugium
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SocalKicks

California

4.25/5  rDev -0.7%

03-14-2014 07:06:00 | More by SocalKicks
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mdfb79

New York

4.4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into my Duvel tulip. 2009 vintage. Received as an extra from wunderbeer in a trade, big thanks Ron, I've really been wanting to try this one!

a - Pours a dark mahogany brown color with one finger of fluffy very light tan head and moderate carbonation evident. Little bit of lacing left on the glass and head lasts for two to three minutes.

s - Smells of caramel malts, chocolate, dark fruits, especially raisins, toffee, light vanilla, light molasses, and light alcohol. As it warms up also a little cherries comes out. Wow, one of the best smelling Old Ales I've ever smelled. As it warms up so many different smells come out, yet it stays balanced.

t - Tastes of raisins, dates, dark fruits, molasses, sugar, caramel malts, sweet fruity malts, licorice, light toffee, and alcohol. Still good, but a clear step down from the nose.

m - Medium to full rich body and low
carbonation. The body is very smooth and creamy, and the alcohol is very well hidden.

d - A really great Old Ale; one of the better ones I've had. I thought this beer smelled amazing and was very complex and balanced. While the taste was a step down and a tiny disappointment after the smell, it was still very good. I thought it also had an amazing mouthfeel and while definitely a sipper, the ABV is well hidden. Would love to get more of this one.

Serving type: bottle

12-17-2010 01:31:53 | More by mdfb79
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oline73

Maryland

4.1/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into a goblet. The bottle says its from 2010.

Appearance: Pours a dark mahogany color with some light coming through the pour. There is just a small layer of light tan head that goes away very quickly.

Smell: As expected, this is a really sweet one. I'm getting a bunch of dark fruit and some caramel malt. I'm getting some heat in my nose from the alcohol. There is a mild vanilla note that shows up too.

Taste: Not as sweet as the smell indicated, but still very sweet. Tons of dark fruit and brown sugar with some caramel malt. The soft vanilla is there as well. There is a very slight tartness that goes along with the dark fruit. Towards the end of the sip, I'm getting some warming alcohol along with a bitterness in the finish.

Mouthfeel: The body is on the thick, syrupy side with tingly carbonation and a very dry finish.

Overall: This is a really nice desert beer. I didn't expect the slightly tart note, but it didn't seem out of place. I enjoyed this one and would love to have more in the future.

Serving type: bottle

10-09-2012 01:47:29 | More by oline73
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Gueuzedude

Arizona

3.78/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled August 2004; Sampled February 2008
A vigorous pour produces a half-finger thick, frothy, large bubbled head that is a dark tan, lightly amber tinged color. The beer is a burnt amber color and shows brilliantly clear, though chunky, deep ruby hue when held up to the light. Rich concentrated aromatics of oxidized malt extract, sherry, buttery toffee, caramelized berry notes, chewy grain and toasted brown sugar encrusted whole grain bread. A touch of warming alcohol combines with the fruit notes to provide some soft notes reminiscent of a refined brandy. As the beer aerates a bit it becomes quite a bit more fruit focused, the berry notes become much more noticeable as the aged malt notes reminiscent of Sherry meld into the fruit character.

Sweet up front, but this seems to dry out fairly quickly. The beer is quite light bodied for its strength, but still has a fullness to it; along with the ample alcohol, the body easily makes this a sipping brew. Chewy, caramelized malt notes combine with aged Sherry flavors, fruity raisin notes and browned, whole grain bread-like notes. The hop merely play a supporting role here, but do provide some flavor to this brew; soft herbal notes are found up front and pick up some steam with a herbal, slightly astringent, bitter note by the time we get to the long, lingering finish. Actually because this beer is not overly sweet, the hop character that is here provides a nicely balanced note between hop and malt. The alcohol, while not aggressive, is most certainly here and provides a warming character that sort of radiates down my throat. The finish has a bit of dark grain character to it as well; at times hints of chocolate and perhaps a hint of roast grain becomes noticeable.

Tasty, contemplative and interesting, I have a feeling this is close to peaking. When younger I think it would have been too sweet for my tastes, but the oxidation has started to temper this brew & the still noticeable hop character adds a nice balance to the rich, layered malt character. Not bad, but something seems to keep this from being great; perhaps it is a lack of a certain rich, complexity.

Serving type: bottle

02-10-2008 03:20:49 | More by Gueuzedude
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Rochefort10nh

New Hampshire

5/5  rDev +16.8%

12-01-2011 00:51:14 | More by Rochefort10nh
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mendvicdog

Maryland

4.25/5  rDev -0.7%

04-26-2013 13:15:19 | More by mendvicdog
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GClarkage

California

4.58/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

03/12/09- Received via trade with former BA member Jetsbeer.

Presentation- 2005 Vintage, bottled in February. Best by 2011. 12oz bottle poured into my Old Stock Ale glass.

Appearance- Deep cherry, mahagoney, burnt caramel color. Slight bubbly head on a fairly hard pour. Spotty and watery-like lace left behind. Not uncommon per style.

Smell- Very pungent and wonderful nose. Burnt and heavy caramel malt, sugary cherry notes, minor alcohol. Smells a bit like alcoholic brownies.

Taste- Thought this was much higher of an abv. Lots of flavor for it's strength. Strong toasted and roasted caramel malted flavor. Minor chocolate notes added with some raisin, date and cherry flavors. Fairly bready and the sweetness isn't too strong.

Mouthfeel- Very smooth and silky. Not really creamy. Mildly thick. Lower carbonation, but sharp at times. Nice dark fruity aftertaste with a light sugary coating.

Drinkability- Finally got around to drinking this after aquiring this in '05. Great and easy drinking Old Ale. Score for Kuhnhenn. Have my bottle of Raspberry Eisbock from '05 or earlier tomorrow night.

Serving type: bottle

03-13-2009 03:44:37 | More by GClarkage
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beernads

Florida

3.75/5  rDev -12.4%

04-05-2013 09:35:32 | More by beernads
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corby112

Pennsylvania

3.83/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2010 vintage courtesy of mikey711. Thanks again man!

Pours a dark chestnut brown color with ruby/mahogany edges and a half finger light beige head that immediately fades into a thin ring. Minimal spots of lacing left behind.

Sweet malt aroma with faint earthy hops and boozy heat. Lots of earthy oak/wood character balanced out by hints of caramel, rye and toffee. I'm also picking up some dark fruit, mostly raisin and plum and fig along with other dark berries. The nose is pretty complex with a good balance of barrel character, leathery malt and sweet notes.

Medium body and slightly syrupy with some soft carbonation and subtle spice up front. There's a slightly earthy, leathery character but this beer is bursting with sweet malt flavor. Hints of caramel, toffee, biscuit, hazelnut and rye which are countered at the end of the swallow by a boozy hot finish with a decent hop bite. There's a decent barrel presence with a good amount of oaky/wood flavor along with some more sweet booze. This beer is pretty complex but is very hot at this stage and the ABV is not very well masked. It's 13.5% and you can feel it in the finish. Definitely a sipper that should improve with time but right now it's still a bit rough.

Serving type: bottle

04-30-2011 07:31:39 | More by corby112
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imperialking

Illinois

4.5/5  rDev +5.1%

01-21-2012 00:13:46 | More by imperialking
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weeare138

Pennsylvania

4.15/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Much thanks to walleye for this!
Appears a glowing dark brown with a 2 inch off white head that sticks around for a minute. Some spotty lacing is left behind.
Smell is of sweet malt, caramel, and a hint of pine mixed with fresh bready dough.
Taste is of smooth dough with caramel malts and raisins and a definite oakiness or pineness about it.
Mouthfeel is smooth with an alcohol bite that covers the entire palate of full flavors.
To me, the alcohol is evident but this is still not bad to take your time with after a hearty meal.

Finger licking good.

Serving type: bottle

06-10-2005 13:02:22 | More by weeare138
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MarkyMOD

Colorado

4/5  rDev -6.5%

10-10-2013 04:34:00 | More by MarkyMOD
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barleywinefiend

Washington

4.28/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a caramel color with a nice tan cap and some bubbles

S: Holy caramel, bourbon, figs, raisins and booze

T:Immediate caramel sweetness with some bourbon heat and a massive amount of residual sugar. Figs, riasins and tobacco are very prevelant in this beer, all the way through. Caramel, toffee and big sugar seem to be the key notes

M: Warm, sweet and boozey on the end. Medium to big body, well carbonated

O: Very nice but as sweet as this beer is a sure headache and sugar rush would follow on a single beer. Wow.

Serving type: bottle

01-08-2012 15:20:29 | More by barleywinefiend
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tempest

Pennsylvania

4.28/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had a small glass at the Stag's Head. I had a couple other nice beers at the Stag, but man this one stood out. It wasn't overly thick and there's was no knock of alcohol. The flavor was a rich mix of dates, raisins, caramel, and cocoa. There were mild hints of toffee, cola, and grapefruit hops to round this out, making for a fantastic dessert beer.

Serving type: on-tap

09-05-2011 00:30:05 | More by tempest
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yourefragile

District of Columbia

4.25/5  rDev -0.7%

01-19-2013 18:32:04 | More by yourefragile
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rhoadsrage

Illinois

4.6/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2007
(Served in a snifter)
Thanks to sarcastro for the trade
A- This beer pours a dark brown dense body with a faint amber hue to it. On top is a sticky light tan head that fades in the middle but last around the edges.

S- The smell of caramel malt has notes of darker roasted malt and cinnamon tree bark with a pine needle hop finish.

T- The rich caramel malt flavor is very full with a slight sweetness and a graham note that is almost inky in flavor. There is a faint cinnamon quality to the malt. This big malt flavor blends with the woody bitter notes of piney hops that has a faint mint quality to it. The caramel sweetness lingers just a bit blending with the alcohol nicely.

M- This beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with a very soft alcohol heat making my tongue beg for more. As the beer warms the alcohol increases pulling out the hop flavors and malt flavors at the finish.

D- This beer has a great bold flavor of malt with some interesting malt flavors to it and a nice hop support. The depth seems to unveil itself as the beer warms and this is a great example of this style. I would be interested to see what this beer taste like as it ages becuase the hops add so much to it fresh.

Serving type: bottle

05-30-2008 19:53:46 | More by rhoadsrage
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stakem

Pennsylvania

4.13/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, vintage 2009 poured into a snifter care of StormKing47. Thanks Josh for sharing this brew.

This brew appears a hazed amber brown color with reddish hues around the edges. The head appears a creamy yellowish stained cap that laces with spots about the glassware.

The aroma of this brew is alcohol laden sweetness with a maltiness that come across like a mixture of vanilla and caramel. Some citrusy hops poke through the background.

The taste is extremely sweet malty caramel and vanilla with a ton of alcohol that is both fusel in taste and very warming. A toasty burnt flavor resides in the mouth lingering with a hoppy bitterness that is a bit herbal. Some of the alcohol comes across as fusel and increases the depth of this brew's flavor to extend beyond just sugary sweetness and into a realm of being more fruity.

This is a medium to full bodied brew with a light level of carbonation. It is fair as far as drinkability goes for a sipper, a little less cloying sweetness would go a long way. The experience drinking this brew is quite interesting. The flavor really developes as more sips are taken. Initially it is overkill with sugary vanilla caramel sweetness that turns to a more toasty grain, bitter and high alcohol presence. Each sip yields quite a different range of character. Well done.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2010 23:32:59 | More by stakem
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XmnwildX12

Minnesota

4/5  rDev -6.5%

05-08-2014 00:31:07 | More by XmnwildX12
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dbrauneis

North Carolina

4.19/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2011 Edition

A: Pours a cloudy and opaque very dark reddish brown in color with some brown and amber highlights along with a light amount of gentle visible carbonation. The beer has an extremely thin sudsy dark beige head that quickly reduces to a very thin ring of bubbles at the edges of the glass. Minimal amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Strong aromas of malts with some toffee sweetness and just a touch of cherry dark fruit.

T: Moderate to strong flavors of sweet malts with some notes of toffee and light to moderate amounts of cherry dark fruit. There are very light notes of lingering sweetness and almost no bitterness present. Light notes of alcohol as the beer warms up.

M: Just heavier than medium bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth with just a touch of alcohol warmth in the finish.

O: This beer has just enough sweetness and alcohol presence in this beer to make you want to slowly sip it (preferably on a cold winter evening by a fireplace) to enjoy.

Serving type: bottle

02-24-2013 02:10:40 | More by dbrauneis
Kuhnhenn Fourth Dementia (4D) from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
95 out of 100 based on 844 ratings.