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Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Ratings: 1,658
Reviews: 376
rAvg: 4.56
pDev: 8.77%
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Gots: 417 | FT: 30
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: alexgash on 12-14-2006

This is our 4th Dementia Olde Ale that has been bourbon barrel aged. This ale has an intense sweet caramel malt flavor and aroma that develops into a toffee/toasted marsh mellow like character.
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Ratings: 1,658 | Reviews: 376
Photo of StrongRepublican
4.93/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2012 Vintage:
Pours a rich, viscous amber, syrupy in color/appearance. Thin tan head forms with a vigorous pour but dissipates immediately leaving just a trace of a collar. English toffee, burnt sugar, toasted marshmallow, vanilla, oak, and coconut all peak through in the aroma with just the slightest hint of booze. All of these sweet, luscious smells come out in full force in the taste. Incredible depth and richness of flavors; the barrels are prominent but not dominating, instead balancing and complimenting the massive caramel sweetness/toast/oakey vanilla tannins/leather. Once the sweetness begins to drop, you're hit with huge sweet cherries/dates/dark fruit and a lingering hint of booze. Sticky lacing is left clinging to the glass. Mouth feel is full-bodied, sweet, syrupy, but the carbonation level is perfect to move this sweet malt bomb around the palate. Overall, it easily ranks as one of my absolute favorite Old Ales, it's simply fantastic and dangerously quaffable.

Photo of Desp59
1.98/5  rDev -56.6%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.75 | overall: 2

I don't get this at all. Totally flat and blown away by a lot of stuff on this list.

Photo of KVNBGRY
4.36/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

This is more like a Barleywine. Less of an old ale. I am very excited to be able to try this. It gets lost in a sea of barleywines and stouts, but would stand out on its own. Well done!

Photo of johnnnniee
4.13/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle from BlowOffTube, thanks for the opportunity!
Ruby brown color with a smallish off white head that dissipates quickly. Toffee, fruity, vanilla, and light oak with hints of molasses and alcohol make up most of the aroma. Smells quite sweet but I like it. The flavor is sweet and fruity with bits of caramel and burnt sugars. Light vanilla and wood with some solid warming alcohol. Thick body with a sweet sticky mouthfeel. Great sipper!

Photo of WI-Beer-Man
4.84/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

2011 bottle. One of the best tasting beers I've had. The bourbon barrel flavors blend so well with the sweet carmel/toffee flavors.

Photo of blankenhoney
4.44/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle of the 2014 BB4D

A: Pours a dark, rusty shade of copper with some bright ruby and russet tones

S: Burnt sugar, candied dark cherries, boozy oak, sherry-soaked almond cookies, and coconut

T: Lots of dark cherries and plums, sherry, toffee, and oak. Really nice, somewhat harsh alcohol burn on the finish. Alcohol presence became more pronounced as the beer warmed up (that was a good thing!)

M: Thick and viscous without being heavy

O: A fantastic, top-tier old ale. Loads of caramel, toffee, brown sugar, and booze, with some nice fruit undertones. It's a lot like some of the best English-style BA barleywines, but a good deal sweeter and more sherry-forward. I think I favor 4D over BB4D. The regular has a lot of the same aromas and flavors as BB4D, but it was slightly less sweet and lacked the boozy sherry punch that BB4D delivers. I would've liked a bit more bourbon presence - for whatever reason I am picking up a lot of sherry or some kind of sweet liquer - but I'm not complaining.

Photo of Brandonparrent
5/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

i purchased 2 4 packs back in 2010 enjoyed half and still have aging. This beer is a must have.

Photo of twiggamortis420
4.72/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

12 oz bottle pours a rich, opaque black color with a modest cap of fine-bubbled tan head. Retention and lace average at best, but hey - it is almost 14%.

Nose: see Mother of all Storms. Delightfully deep Rice Krispies, rich plum fruitiness and some really dark, dank chocolate. Smell is right up there with the best.

Taste is just as good, the chocolaty cereal grains are unbelievable. The yeast is there, but not prominent and the great depth of malt is what drives this beer to greatness. Mouthfeel is, unsurprisingly perfect - silky and thick. Alcohol is in check, but prominent and complimentary. Love it.

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4.96/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Bottle received in a trade from spartan213. '12 vintage.

Pours a fairly dark brown, basically opaque, with a small quarter inch head, and basically no lacing.

Smells just incredible, I can't even describe most of it. Dark fruits, caramel, toasted marshallow, toffee, and bourbon.

One of the most interesting beers I've ever had- like I said before, I can't really even describe most of these flavors. Caramel, raisins, figs, toasted marshmallow, oak, vanilla, cola, sarsaparilla, walnuts, bourbon. The aftertaste is this incredible blast of caramel and bourbon- almost like bourbon-soaked Werther's candy or something. This is just so unique and awesome.

This is fairly thick bodied, with a sweet and mucho syrupy mouthfeel, and a very low amount of carbonation. Although I really want to slowly sip this, it's really hard to not just gulp it down, it's so drinkable.

This might be the best beer I've ever had. While drinking it, I honestly had no idea what was going on.

Photo of SadMachine
4.54/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Reviewed from notes from 6/18/14

'11 vintage
A- Poured into my CCB snifter it is almost black, with dark brown hues around the edges. A tiny wisp of a tan head quickly dissipates, and only miniscule bits of carbonation can be seen rising. Not super pretty, but expected with the style and barrel aging.

S- The aroma is sweet dried/candied fruit bliss! Prunes, raisins, dates, figs, and even some dried pineapple and apricot! A huge malt backbone of caramel and bread. Significant vanilla and oak from the bourbon barrel come through. Hints of dark chocolate, cherry, and blackberry finish things up. As far as the style goes this may be the perfect aroma!

T- The taste follows the aroma pretty well, though there are some additional flavors. The first I noticed was damp tobacco. There is some peat, and a surprising bit of tart cherry. The dark fruits from the aroma are present, but perhaps not as prevalent. Fig and prune are the most noticeable, with raisin following right behind. The caramel and bready malts play a good supporting role. There is a hint of vanilla, but very little of the chocolate from the aroma. Significant amounts of medicinal and alcohol flavors take a bit away from this.

M- The mouth feel is thick, but not overly viscous. A bit sharp with alcohol, medicinal feel, and low carbonation.

O- This was awesome and incredibly complex! I only wish the harsh medicinal and alcohol flavors weren't so pronounced.

Photo of bowzer4birdie
4.45/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I tasted a bottle earlier this year and quite frankly was a bit disappointed in the lack of bourbon presence. I really can't taste the difference between this and Regular 4D. I'd rather stick with regular 4D as it's easier to obtain and not quite as costly.

Photo of JohnG190
4.91/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

2013 bottle. Pours a murky brown with an almost non-existent head. Bourbon, toffee, chocolate, oak, vanilla and caramel sweetness on the nose. Very complex and delicious aroma! Toffee, chocolate, brown sugar, and molasses on the palate. Smooth with a little alcohol heat. Outstanding! Full bodied with light carbonation, this beer coats the mouth with velvet smoothness. I'm not an expert in old ales by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't think of a better example of the style than this exemplary crafted beer!

Photo of lochef81
4.43/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to my boy Lane for sharing a 2012 bottle of this treasure with me. It pours a muddy looking chestnut brown with almost no head or lacing but tons of boozy legs. The nose is a caramely sweet, bourbon boozy, earthy blend of heaven. The mouthfeel is thick and very sticky. Lots of caramel malts and alcohol to thicken this up. The body is more akin to something cloying like Kahlua or Baileys more than most beers. The flavor is every gorgeous thing that the nose promises. Sweet, boozy, earthy, and rich. This is absolutely outstanding. I can only hope that I can get my hands on some to add to my cellar.

Photo of rlee1390
4/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-Clear amber not much carbonation. One finger off white head that tires to leave some lacing.

S-Slight bourbon, lots of caramel, some dark fruits.

T-Starts with some bourbon, oak and dark fruits. Balance isn't that good.

M-Medium to heavy, not much carbonation though.

O-The the regular 4D, this beer didn't do it for me. When compared to other old ales this one fell short.

Photo of cbutova
4.56/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Notes taken on my phone a few nights ago. Huge thanks to my cousin Sonny for sharing this one with me, an all-time Want for me. Wish I had my notebook but the notes will have to suffice.

A- Poured to a wine glass with a dark brown almost opaque body. Small foamy white head forms but quickly recedes to the edges as a small ring. Spotty lacing for the most part but some nice patches around the glass.

S- Deep bourbon and huge old ale aroma blasts out of the bottle, I could smell it right as I broke the seal. Bourbon is not alcoholic feeling but quite smooth while remaining strong aromatically. Rich caramel sweet base and some raisin, slight cocoa dark malts.

T- Follows the nose very well, rich and decadent old ale with a great barrel bourbon feel blended in. The old ale base reminds me of a less sweet Old Stock, big raisin and dusty aged caramel. Bourbon is a bit peppery and has vanilla oak notes. Slight dusty dark cocoa feel.

MF- Super thick bodied with a semi-creamy but mostly oily feel. Carbonation at a moderate low level but suits what is happening. Finishes with some sweetness and a soothing warmth on the palate.

Right up my alley. Super intense Old Ale flavors and huge but ABV well hidden. The bourbon barrel is strong but the base has a ton complex flavors of its own.

Photo of MarcWP
4.74/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

2012 vintage poured into Firestone Walker snifter.

Pours a dark fig color with small tan head that leaves a thin ring around the edge of glass.

Aroma is deep dark fruit, vanilla, bourbon, charred raisin, molasses, leather, prune juice, and faint horse saddle. Oak bounds everything together.

On the palate you get bourbon, raisin, fig, date, caramel, prune, artificial vanilla, brown sugar, cherry cordial, port, and many other things. This is a complex beast! The barrel aging is downright popping the base beer. You get the booziness from the barrels but only enough to help balance out the sweetness. Just tasty as heck!

The mouthfeel is spot on for the style. Medium creamy body with just enough carbonation to add some depth.

Overall this is a real treat! Would love to have easy access to Kuhnhenn. The best old ale I've had in a 12 ounce format. The second best old ale I've ever had behind Old Stock Cellar Reserve Brandy. And only by a few hairs! I like the way this tastes with a year + on it. Can't help but wonder when the sweet spot is for this. Can see it aging well for years to come.

Photo of dar482
4.71/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

The beer comes in a dark mahoghany color.

The aroma has tons of juicy sweet raisins, figs, plums, and then vanilla and a big toffee, brown, caramel sweetness.

The flavor follows with lots of rich sweetness. Vanilla, molasses, sweet raisins and dried dark fruits. Along with a woody flavor in the middle and then an oak finish on the back.

The barrel does this beer wonders by blunting many notes and melding them into a drippy sweet luscious beer.

Photo of chanokokoro
4.68/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

2012 vintage poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a Kuhnhenn branded short stemmed tulip/snifter

Pours a murky amber capped by a very light beige one and half finger creamy head. Dissipates within a couple of minutes, but above average retention for a BA brew, just a few hints of lacing. Bold nose, deep aroma of dark fruit, oak, brown sugar, toffee all capped by bourbon booziness. Opens with dark fruit including black cherries, sugar plums, prunes and raisins, and hints of dates joined by rich molasses, caramel, and brown sugar, some nuttiness and biscuit accents midpalate. Finishes with toasted oak, vanilla, continued dark fruit, and pleasant bourbon booziness. Low carbonation, syrupy full body that is amazingly smooth and velvety with just a bit of creaminess. This amazing brew is definitely one of my personal favorites. One of, if not the best BA Old Ale available. Whether fresh or aged this ridiculously complex brew delivers.

Photo of Vonerichs
4.43/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2010 vintage

Pours a dark murky raisin color. It's viscous with little carbonation, exactly what I expected.

Oh wow it's a sniffer. Dates, figs, and extremely aromatic vanilla and caramel. Brown sugar. Oak. Every time I stick my nose in I find more layers.

Summed up, flavors are dark and sweet. Heavy on vanilla, caramel, and dates. A little marshmallow. The few years on this bottle really mellows the booze and melds everything else. I'd love to try it fresh sometime.

Thick body with minimal carbonation. Sipper, but smooth. It drinks heavy but should. The body holds it all together well.

I'm glad I got around to ticking this one. It's been a big want of mine for a while. Definitely worth chasing.

Photo of Thickfreakness
4.46/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky mahogany with cherry highlights and one finger tan head that fades quickly and leaves nice oily legs around the glass, but barely a hint of lacing. Just as expected.
Caramel, vanilla, dark dried fruit, huge bourbon notes, Touches of sweetened espresso, marshmallow, figs, dates, and cocoa powder.
Completely mimics the nose. Caramel enrobed in chocolate, vanilla marshmallows stuffed with a blend of dried fig/cherry/date/raisins and drizzled with coffee/dark cocoa ganache. Notes of citrus lay in wait. HUGE notes of sweet vanilla bourbon and oak.
Not quite as thick as I was hoping for, but it really sticks to your tongue and envelopes as it goes down. I think the bourbon thins it out but also intensify's and brings together all of these incredible flavors.
This is a really intense experience in a bottle. Old Ale... Barleywine... call it what you will. This is worth seeking out, and I'm glad I did!!!

Photo of timc100
4.88/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

2012 vintage, had at both 1 and 2 year marks.

Pours a dark, dirty, muggy mahogany/ruby brown with no sign of carbonation - not pretty, but no olde ale should have to be.

Aroma is outrageous. Boozy dark fruits - figs, raisins - huge bourbon caramel that enhances the caramel malt, toasted brown sugar. Very fine bourbon vanilla with a sweetness of marshmallow and coconut. Some brandy fruits and cocoa powder. There is some leather and tobacco as well.

Taste is huge, rounded, and balanced. All of the above in the aroma is featured - incredibly smooth with an amazing aftertaste that just lingers and sticks to the bottom of the tongue. Not overly sweet at all - the balance is perfect. The barrel-vanilla character is what sticks out the most - it is very soft and subtle but integrates with everything else strongly.

This is one of the finest beers I have ever had - incredible. 100/100


12-25-14

Revisited: Beautiful barrel aged beer. Perfect amount of sweetness balanced with some bitterness that comes out mid palate, great old ale character, beautiful sweet barrel influence, incredibly rich taste and body. 97/100

Photo of Justin_Neff
4.48/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2012 poured into a CCB snifter.

A: Pours a dark brown, molasses color body. Small, thin head billows up slowly after the pour and fades much quicker, leaving just a tiny rim. Pretty indicative of any olde ale.

S: The smell is oozing of caramel malts and bourbon. A bit of toffee, butterscotch, and vanilla are laced in between the malt and barrel.

T: Perfectly balanced and complex. Toasted marshmallows. Toffee. Butterscotch. Caramel. It's just like having an after dinner bourbon with some creme brûlée - and that's a good thing.

M: Creamy. Very full body. Velvety. Low carbonation, but that's probably due to the aging. Boozy warm.

O: Wow. Just wow. I was a skeptic that this wouldn't live up to the hype, but I was wrong. So complex that ever drink is a bit different. Some sips are dominated by marshmallow, while some are literally just like eating a creme brûlée. Bourbon ties it altogether brilliantly.

Photo of PHBoiler
4.93/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This drinks very closely to an English Barleywine to me. Dark fruits, caramel, and hints of bourbon. Maybe even a little vanilla. The barrel highlights this beer. The 13.5% does not diminish any of the flavor. Top notch beer. As good as any BB barleywine/old ale I've had.

Photo of TWStandley
4.59/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2011 Vintage, poured into my oversize snifter.

Appeared a dark brown nearly black color with a quarter-finger mocha colored head. Head vanished nearly immediately. Once the head dissipated it was tough to tell that this was a carbonated beverage.

Smell was quite potent and delicious. Sweet candied fruits and vanilla, a bit of charred oak, and bourbon were present.

Taste followed the smell closely. Lots of dark fruits including plums and raisins, a nice burnt vanilla character and slight molasses. The bourbon is blended in nicely so there is not much of an alcohol taste to it. Extremely sweet.

Mouth-feel was excellent. Thick and velvety. Very smooth. Little to no carbonation (not sure if this would be different had it been a newer vintage).

Overall a fantastic beer. Would love to find some more!

Photo of Davepoolesque
4.41/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured out a caramel color, basically no head, huge amounts of lacing on the glass. Huge amounts of vanilla, toffee, caramel, burnt sugar, toasted coconut and booze on the nose. Taste is truly superb. Lots of vanilla up front, with caramel in the middle and a slight alcohol burn on the back end. It's a welcomed feeling, that cuts through the sweetness. Low carbonation on this one, very viscous, coats the mouth and lingers a long time. Just really really good. Basically the best bourbon barrel aged english barleywine that's not a barleywine out there.

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Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
100 out of 100 based on 1,658 ratings.