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Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Ratings: 1,640
Reviews: 375
rAvg: 4.56
pDev: 8.77%
Wants: 1,564
Gots: 415 | FT: 29
Brewed by:
Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: alexgash on 12-14-2006

This is our 4th Dementia Olde Ale that has been bourbon barrel aged. This ale has an intense sweet caramel malt flavor and aroma that develops into a toffee/toasted marsh mellow like character.
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Ratings: 1,640 | Reviews: 375
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4.42/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2011 bottle poured into a Deschutes snifter at around 45 degrees. The pour has sort of a toasted caramel color - a dark red/orange/brown that builds into a nice dark brown in the glass. Barely any head - just a thin film in the middle of the class with a ring of roasted marshmallow bubbles.

Smells of oak, sweet bourbon syrup, roasted marshmallow, caramel, and a baked butter dough. The butter dough (i'm not sure how else to describe it, although i realize that is rather vague) keeps the back of the aroma faintly sweet and relaxing in what is otherwise a pretty forward hit of condensed flavors.

The first sip is decidedly sweet and syrupy at the onset, but quickly dissolves into an alcohol burn on the middle of the tongue and back of the throat. Flavors of bourbon-soaked raisins, toffee, buttered baguette, and a dark fruit spread dominate with a nice malted backing. It's a little thinner than i was anticipating, but not in any major way. The alcohol keeps it from sticking around too long, and the exhale flavors of hazelnut and bourbon are faint enough to keep lifting the glass.

This is a really wonderful sipper... I'm forcing myself to think of it as a slow sipper, because I could see moving through it more quickly than it requires. After being a little underwhelmed by the regular 4D, I'm really impressed with this - it's a strong, assertive ale that is much improved by the barrel aging. I'm looking forward to sitting on my other bottle until late next fall or so.

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2/5  rDev -56.1%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.34/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to FINEBEERGUY for this one!

2011 vintage.

Pours a murky and almost opaque super dark brown with a 1 inch foamy dark khaki head that settles to an oily film on top of the beer. Small dots and streaks of lace form randomly around the glas on the drink down. Smell is of toasted malt, brown sugar, caramel, toffee, and bourbon. Taste is of bourbon, wood, brown sugar, caramel/toffee, and malt. There is a slight sourness to the taste but nothing that really detracts from the flavors. This beer has a low level of carbonation with an almost flat and very thick mouthfeel that lends to a very rich drinking experience. Overall, this is a fantastic barrel aged old ale with some very nice aromas and flavors.

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4.67/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got this one through a trade. Thanks!

12 oz bottle poured into a snifter

A: I have never seen a beer that looks like this. Absolutely no head, very little lacing. dark brown color (with a bit of reddish tone), it's defintitely not transparent, but not thick like a stout. It kind of looks like an unfiltered apple juice

S: Bourbon, roated malts, maybe some dark fruits, I can also smell the booze

T: Bourbon, vanilla, brown sugar, caramel, chocolate, very sweet and boozy. In the middle, I can also taste something a bit tart? or sour? Very well done!

M: Thick, smooth, very little carbonation

O: I enjoyed this one very much! I love bourbon aged beers, and this is definiely one of my top 3 I had. Glad I have another bottle on the way to age.

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4.34/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Drummintime for this rarity!

A: pours a dark brown with with some nasty dregs of a lighter brown color. Very cloudy, and no head, but still delcious and thick looking.

S: huge bourbon aroma on this 2010 version of the BB4D, but it also has fruity smells of the old ale that are beginning to shine through, giving excellent balance. I get apple.

T: everything from apple to raisin to bourbon to vanilla to sweet caramel shine in this beauty. Delicious.

M: very low carbonation and heavy body make this an impressive old ale. Wish it had more carbonation.

O: delicious beer, one of the best old ales I've had. The 2010 version that I am drinking has excellent balance. I can imagine the barrel flavors are unbelievable when it's fresh.

Photo of DoubleSimcoe
3.94/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

BB 4D on tap at Blind Tiger, NYC, served in a 12-oz glass. I've had this beer before out of a bottle. First time on tap...

Appearance: BB 4D comes looking still and thick, with no head in a quirky glass filled to the brim. Low carbonation and no lacing. Color is that of prune juice- not too appetizing.

Smell: Beautiful, delicious. Port wine, raising, a rustic winery in La Rioja. Chocolate and caramelized sugar, plus coconut frosting. Toffee, hint of licuorice.

Taste: Follows nose, with a more pronounced chocolate taste and a nice sweet-booze finish. It gets a little hot/cloying at times (not as balanced as, say, Old Stock), but still yummy. The raisin-dark fruit thing is really strong. Crushed grapes and cocoa powder. Hard toffee candy.

Mouthfeel: Underwhelming. The lack of carbonation is startling, and the booze/sweetness (particularly as it warms up) can be overwhelming. Full flavor, medium body, low carbonation. Sticky-dry mouth and finish.

Overall: Reminds me of a Harvest Ale on dope. Had it on a bottle, didn't love it, better on tap. Not super outstanding but fine. And better than regular 4D!

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4.67/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

My first beer from this brewery and was very excited to try this one out as this is a well-regarded brew in beer snobbery circles. Poured from 12oz bottle into a tulip glass. Pours root beer brown with thin off-white head. Beautiful lacing that lasted extremely well throughout. Aromas of marshmallows, toffee, caramel, and hints of bourbon. Smooth, well-masked bourbon in the flavors along with caramel and some maple syrup. Amazing smooth mouthfeel with nice carbonation throughout. This is a beer I definitely want to try again!

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4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of korguy123
4.76/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Most recent batch into Kuhnhenn "Belgian Glass"
Purchased both from the brewery on our trip to Michigan.

A- Murky dark brown, almost black pour. Heavy pour and swirl leaves no head and no lacing. BUT the alcohol sticking to the glass is pretty amazing, it actually looks like it's staining the glass.

S- Massive bourbon aroma. Bourbon soaked raisins, bourbon soaked figs, bourbon soaked dates. Vanilla, brown sugar, molasses with a touch of licorice. Sweet dark chocolate and a touch of coffee. Leather and tobacco with a touch of alcohol.

T- Massive bourbon again. Just loads of sweet, sticky bourbon soaked dark fruits. Brown sugar and vanilla with less in the way of chocolate but the same if not more taste of coffee. Alcohol leaves a bit of a warmth but that is about it.

M- Full bodied, creamy and smooth. Sticky on the lips.

O- I downright loved the regular version. I honestly couldn't imagine how much better it could get. But in the back of my mind I know how regarded this beer is and how much I was looking forward to trying this. I was not disappointed at all. Super complex, well crafted.

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4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of tjkinate
3.65/5  rDev -20%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Yeah, not my favorite.

A: Murky, sediment filled (even from a careful pour), no head, no lacing.

S: Raisons, loads of vanilla and caramel, slight bourbon characteristics, very malty and had my mouth watering.

T: Wow, that is sweet. TONS of caramel and vanilla followed by dark fruits. Such a sweet beer, I had a hard time finishing the half I poured myself.

M: Medium bodied, creamy, very low carbonation, slight burn from the high ABV.

O: It was worth getting once.

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4/5  rDev -12.3%

Photo of dbrauneis
4.5/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle share in Hoboken, NJ.

A: Pours a medium brown in color with some dark amber hints when held up to the light. The beer has a thin light beige head that quickly reduces to a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Minimal lacing is observed.

S: This beer has a nice complexity to the aroma with some noticeable sweetness. There is some dark fruit sweetness with cherries and dates, some dark malts, and the heavy influence of the bourbon - some hints of oak, some hints of vanilla, and the actual bourbon smell.

T: The beer is sweet but not cloying. There is quite a bit of sweetness from the dark fruit - mostly cherries with some hints of dates. The beer has some dark malts and lots of flavor contribution from the bourbon barrel. I love the oakiness and smooth vanilla which are quite strong in the taste.

M: Full bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth and creamy.

O: There is some alcohol present in this beer, especially as it warms up. The beer is a great sipping beer and has a wonderful complexity to the smell and taste. I enjoyed this beer but it was not super easy to drink and is definitely too strong to be sessionable.

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4.42/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle courtesy of a great new trading partner - thanks! Poured in to a snifter.

Appearance: Pours a deep opaque mahogany, decadent looking, letting light slip in only around the very edges. A rather vigorous pour coaxes about half a finger of fawn head to the surface of this one, though it only sticks around for about a minute and change before settling down in to a thin but broad fog and a slightly more voluminous but dense collar. Agitation settles both some nice lacing on the sides of the snifter (which, despite the barrel aging and 13.5% abv price tag, actually has some heft and some sticking power, leaving nondescript blotches along the sides of the glass) as well as reveals the thickness of this beer vis a vis how long it takes the released carbonation to travel upwards (hint: it's very slow).

Aroma: An incredibly interesting and complex nose. Deep, fat, rich, and oaky, with almost no burn whatsoever. The base beer is prominent initially (though less as you bury your nose in it more and as it warms) and sits up front, and provides a solid foundation. Light fruits mingle very well with the barrel components (discussed below), but also well with the heavier fruits - dates, raisins, cherries, hints of (though not) fig - as well as cocoa and toffee. There are hints of darker malts, providing an earthier foundation than the other notes above suggest that they might provide.

The barrel here was very obviously bourbon or whiskey, and the marriage is very nice. Obviously, the spirits are fairly prominent - sweet bourbon with plenty of rye overtones accentuate both the (slight) twinge of alcohol as well as the thick sweetness of the fruity notes in the base beer. The other notes - dark oak, hints of vanilla, other very barrel-ish spice hints - are all right below the bourbon, and also a significant quantity of smoke. The only downside is the slight mingle of high-end fruity notes and alcohol esters - the combination comes a little too close to a chemical cleaning agent at points, maybe like Pine Sol or (at its worst) straight up isopropyl.

Taste: There's the burn! Like the nose on steroids, but at 13.5%, that's at least partially to be expected. The base beer is still fat and prominent, darker here than it was in the nose, with more chocolate and caramel than dark fruits (but the dark fruits are still there, don't worry), but more light fruits, smoke, and esters. From tropical fruits at the top all the way down to smoky, chewy oak at the bottom, this one traverses the entire taste bud experience, but still has that pesky (and very intense) heat.

Mouthfeel: Perfect, and likely this beer's best attribute. A fat, thick, chewy base beer, sugary and heavy, but dancing right along the "cloying" line with an expertly introduced amount of carbonation, well integrated, for a creamy, frothy frappe-like feel.

Drinkability: Honestly, not as good as the KBBBW was. This one has way more heat and less of dynamicism between the barrel aging and the base beer - that is, the spiciness and strength of that base beer countered the barrel aging and intense alcohol overtones much better than this one does. That being said, this is still a pretty damn good beer, bursting with exciting and dynamic flavors, bright and energetic, while still a little mellow and refined. At 13.5%, I was pleasantly buzzed after finishing a bottle, so don't expect to down a six-pack of these (and if you do happen upon a six-pack of these, inform me immediately to assist with proper disposal), but it's worth seeking out, if not worth selling the farm for.

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5/5  rDev +9.6%

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5/5  rDev +9.6%

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4.75/5  rDev +4.2%

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5/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of mobius387
4.82/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

big thanks to splax23 for this extra!

appearance: nice tarry black, pours smooth, no head

aroma: huge bourbon nose, a bit of malt and some chocolate too

palate: big body, nice and smooth

taste: just flat out perfect. bit bourbon flavors with strong chocolate and vanilla, molasses finish, unbelievable

overall: flattened by this one. easily one of the best BA beers out there. already wanting more! hope they brew more of this stuff someday

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4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

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4/5  rDev -12.3%

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4.75/5  rDev +4.2%

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4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

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4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of JamnesCameron
4.85/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured into a Kuhnhenn tulip glass. Pours a deep, dark brown with some ruby highlights around the edges. Thin, tan head that is slow for form and quick to disappear, leaving a mere wisp of foam around the edges of the glass.

Aromas of oak, vanilla, dark fruits, prunes, raisins, intense caramel and a punch of alcohol.

Flavors of sweet, cloying caramel, oak tannins, vanilla, prunes, licorise, and plummy sweetness. A bite of alcohol heat at the back end of the sip.

Mouthfeel is thick, cloying, no hint of carbonation. Very full and almost syrupy. Some heat from the alcohol.

Overall very nice. The barrel aging is spot on, and marries nicely with the dark fruits from the beer. An amazing marriage.

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Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
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