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Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Ratings: 1,633
Reviews: 375
rAvg: 4.56
pDev: 8.77%
Wants: 1,554
Gots: 414 | FT: 29
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Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Old Ale |  13.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: alexgash on 12-14-2006

This is our 4th Dementia Olde Ale that has been bourbon barrel aged. This ale has an intense sweet caramel malt flavor and aroma that develops into a toffee/toasted marsh mellow like character.
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4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of korguy123
4.76/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Most recent batch into Kuhnhenn "Belgian Glass"
Purchased both from the brewery on our trip to Michigan.

A- Murky dark brown, almost black pour. Heavy pour and swirl leaves no head and no lacing. BUT the alcohol sticking to the glass is pretty amazing, it actually looks like it's staining the glass.

S- Massive bourbon aroma. Bourbon soaked raisins, bourbon soaked figs, bourbon soaked dates. Vanilla, brown sugar, molasses with a touch of licorice. Sweet dark chocolate and a touch of coffee. Leather and tobacco with a touch of alcohol.

T- Massive bourbon again. Just loads of sweet, sticky bourbon soaked dark fruits. Brown sugar and vanilla with less in the way of chocolate but the same if not more taste of coffee. Alcohol leaves a bit of a warmth but that is about it.

M- Full bodied, creamy and smooth. Sticky on the lips.

O- I downright loved the regular version. I honestly couldn't imagine how much better it could get. But in the back of my mind I know how regarded this beer is and how much I was looking forward to trying this. I was not disappointed at all. Super complex, well crafted.

Photo of DSlim71
4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of tjkinate
3.65/5  rDev -20%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Yeah, not my favorite.

A: Murky, sediment filled (even from a careful pour), no head, no lacing.

S: Raisons, loads of vanilla and caramel, slight bourbon characteristics, very malty and had my mouth watering.

T: Wow, that is sweet. TONS of caramel and vanilla followed by dark fruits. Such a sweet beer, I had a hard time finishing the half I poured myself.

M: Medium bodied, creamy, very low carbonation, slight burn from the high ABV.

O: It was worth getting once.

Photo of deapokid
4/5  rDev -12.3%

Photo of dbrauneis
4.5/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle share in Hoboken, NJ.

A: Pours a medium brown in color with some dark amber hints when held up to the light. The beer has a thin light beige head that quickly reduces to a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Minimal lacing is observed.

S: This beer has a nice complexity to the aroma with some noticeable sweetness. There is some dark fruit sweetness with cherries and dates, some dark malts, and the heavy influence of the bourbon - some hints of oak, some hints of vanilla, and the actual bourbon smell.

T: The beer is sweet but not cloying. There is quite a bit of sweetness from the dark fruit - mostly cherries with some hints of dates. The beer has some dark malts and lots of flavor contribution from the bourbon barrel. I love the oakiness and smooth vanilla which are quite strong in the taste.

M: Full bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth and creamy.

O: There is some alcohol present in this beer, especially as it warms up. The beer is a great sipping beer and has a wonderful complexity to the smell and taste. I enjoyed this beer but it was not super easy to drink and is definitely too strong to be sessionable.

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4.42/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle courtesy of a great new trading partner - thanks! Poured in to a snifter.

Appearance: Pours a deep opaque mahogany, decadent looking, letting light slip in only around the very edges. A rather vigorous pour coaxes about half a finger of fawn head to the surface of this one, though it only sticks around for about a minute and change before settling down in to a thin but broad fog and a slightly more voluminous but dense collar. Agitation settles both some nice lacing on the sides of the snifter (which, despite the barrel aging and 13.5% abv price tag, actually has some heft and some sticking power, leaving nondescript blotches along the sides of the glass) as well as reveals the thickness of this beer vis a vis how long it takes the released carbonation to travel upwards (hint: it's very slow).

Aroma: An incredibly interesting and complex nose. Deep, fat, rich, and oaky, with almost no burn whatsoever. The base beer is prominent initially (though less as you bury your nose in it more and as it warms) and sits up front, and provides a solid foundation. Light fruits mingle very well with the barrel components (discussed below), but also well with the heavier fruits - dates, raisins, cherries, hints of (though not) fig - as well as cocoa and toffee. There are hints of darker malts, providing an earthier foundation than the other notes above suggest that they might provide.

The barrel here was very obviously bourbon or whiskey, and the marriage is very nice. Obviously, the spirits are fairly prominent - sweet bourbon with plenty of rye overtones accentuate both the (slight) twinge of alcohol as well as the thick sweetness of the fruity notes in the base beer. The other notes - dark oak, hints of vanilla, other very barrel-ish spice hints - are all right below the bourbon, and also a significant quantity of smoke. The only downside is the slight mingle of high-end fruity notes and alcohol esters - the combination comes a little too close to a chemical cleaning agent at points, maybe like Pine Sol or (at its worst) straight up isopropyl.

Taste: There's the burn! Like the nose on steroids, but at 13.5%, that's at least partially to be expected. The base beer is still fat and prominent, darker here than it was in the nose, with more chocolate and caramel than dark fruits (but the dark fruits are still there, don't worry), but more light fruits, smoke, and esters. From tropical fruits at the top all the way down to smoky, chewy oak at the bottom, this one traverses the entire taste bud experience, but still has that pesky (and very intense) heat.

Mouthfeel: Perfect, and likely this beer's best attribute. A fat, thick, chewy base beer, sugary and heavy, but dancing right along the "cloying" line with an expertly introduced amount of carbonation, well integrated, for a creamy, frothy frappe-like feel.

Drinkability: Honestly, not as good as the KBBBW was. This one has way more heat and less of dynamicism between the barrel aging and the base beer - that is, the spiciness and strength of that base beer countered the barrel aging and intense alcohol overtones much better than this one does. That being said, this is still a pretty damn good beer, bursting with exciting and dynamic flavors, bright and energetic, while still a little mellow and refined. At 13.5%, I was pleasantly buzzed after finishing a bottle, so don't expect to down a six-pack of these (and if you do happen upon a six-pack of these, inform me immediately to assist with proper disposal), but it's worth seeking out, if not worth selling the farm for.

Photo of Benny3000
5/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of Zeller12
5/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of injuredreserve
4.75/5  rDev +4.2%

Photo of matzah
5/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of mobius387
4.82/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

big thanks to splax23 for this extra!

appearance: nice tarry black, pours smooth, no head

aroma: huge bourbon nose, a bit of malt and some chocolate too

palate: big body, nice and smooth

taste: just flat out perfect. bit bourbon flavors with strong chocolate and vanilla, molasses finish, unbelievable

overall: flattened by this one. easily one of the best BA beers out there. already wanting more! hope they brew more of this stuff someday

Photo of MordorMongo
4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of otto251068
4/5  rDev -12.3%

Photo of MBrausen
4.75/5  rDev +4.2%

Photo of ADTaber
4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of birchstick
4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Photo of JamnesCameron
4.85/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured into a Kuhnhenn tulip glass. Pours a deep, dark brown with some ruby highlights around the edges. Thin, tan head that is slow for form and quick to disappear, leaving a mere wisp of foam around the edges of the glass.

Aromas of oak, vanilla, dark fruits, prunes, raisins, intense caramel and a punch of alcohol.

Flavors of sweet, cloying caramel, oak tannins, vanilla, prunes, licorise, and plummy sweetness. A bite of alcohol heat at the back end of the sip.

Mouthfeel is thick, cloying, no hint of carbonation. Very full and almost syrupy. Some heat from the alcohol.

Overall very nice. The barrel aging is spot on, and marries nicely with the dark fruits from the beer. An amazing marriage.

Photo of TK5150
4.55/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2011 Bourbon Barrel 4th Dementia.

A- Pours a murky brown/mahogany with no real head, but just a small ring of bubbles.

S- Caramel, butterscotch, maybe a little butter, cinnamon apple, oak and bourbon.

T- Sweet with prominent caramel. Molasses with hints of sugared plums, raisins and prunes dance in the background as oak and bourbon round out the finish. Definitely a sweeter beer, but the heat, while not nearly as powerful as a 13.5% alcohol barrel aged beer would suggest, is just enough to balance everything out. As I let it warm, I get a little hint of coffee bitterness/tartness on the end as well. Complex stuff. I would probably give this a 4.75 for taste, but I will round down just a bit.

M- Full bodied with very low carbonation. A bit syrupy in the mouth, but looses it a bit in the finish. Silky smooth, even considering the 13.5% alcohol and barrel aging.

O- I am very surprised at the approachability of this beer considering it is a bourbon barrel aged old ale weighing in at 13.5%. There is only a hint of heat on this, and it acts as a nice balance to the sweetness. I've had beers with less alcohol and much more age feel hotter (I'm looking at you, clowns at Goose Island). A very nicely crafted ale. One of the best, if not the best old ale I've tried so far. The only thing hampering its overall score for me is the appearance....but fortunately, its the least important factor when enjoying a beer in my opinion (so I bumped it up a bit to account for my overall enjoyment of the beer).

Photo of mdaschaf
4.47/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Tony412 for sending this one to me!

A: The beer pours a murky brown/burgundy color with a small tan head that reduces quickly leaving a thin ring on top. Not much lacing.

S: Very deep aroma, some vanilla, caramel and oak up front with plenty of dark fruit underneath. Some raisins and plums with some toffee, and brown sugar.

T: Very good, caramel, toffee, and brown sugar up front with a nice blast of vanilla in the middle. There is some faint dark fruit, not as much as the aroma. A little bit of bourbon and oak.

M: Medium to full bodied with moderate carbonation. Smooth with no sign of the 13.5% at all.

O: Probably the best old ale I have had. Great flavor profile and amazingly smooth with no real heat at all.

Photo of shivtim
4.8/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Huge thanks to KKulacki for giving me this bottle while I was visiting Ann Arbor.

Poured into a chalice.
Deep murky brown. Sludgy with slow rising bubbles. Slight lacing / tan head with legs. Looks intense.

Nose is strong sweet bourbon. Brown sugar. Oak and malt. Very nice.

Taste is a wonderful kick in the pants. Sweet intense malt, sugary and syrupy, dense chocolate, lingering strong bourbon with warm ethanol tingle. It's a sipper.

Excellent mouth feel... foamy and full.

Overall a fantastic big beer. One of the best I've ever had.

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5/5  rDev +9.6%

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4.75/5  rDev +4.2%

Photo of russwbeck
4.42/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2010 Vintage

A: Looks exactly like the non-barrel aged version. It pours out of the bottle a hazy brown with a finger or so of light head. The difference is that the lacing and retention have taken a blow. Not really anything left to assess after only a few minutes.

S: If it's even possible, Barrel Aged 4D is more boozy than 4D. The Bourbon accents the alcohol, the combination of which overpowers the malt and dark fruits. Other characteristics are there, but bourbon, oak, and booze are just too strong for them to be taken seriously. As the beer warms, however, more roast and molasses come out.

T: The taste absolutely saves this beer and is the highlight of both offerings. My word, this is like a gourmet dessert. The booze is there, but allows the other parts to shine as well. Overall it's hard to describe. Mellowed to perfection between bourbon, caramel malts, molasses, deep dark fruits, booze, and vanilla. It's amazing how no one flavor comes out and dominates the beer. For this to have such a high ABV and be this mellowed, I'm blown away.

MF: I can't believe how fast I drank this beer. It's heavy with a low amount of carbonation, but the finish is clean and sweet and the booze is not even close to offensive. Complete 180 from the non-BA version.

O: Could not have been more impressed. I saw the "99" rating on here and had my doubts, but it delivered. The barrel treatment added to the beer, which is something I really look for in a good aged beer. I'm thinking a few years really helped curb the alcohol and make this beer stand out. I'm not a fan of Old Ales, but I highly recommend this.

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4.5/5  rDev -1.3%

Kuhnhenn Bourbon Barrel Fourth Dementia from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
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