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Kuhnhenn Tenacious Cassis - Kuhnhenn Brewing Company

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Reviews: 105
Hads: 146
rAvg: 4.08
pDev: 10.78%
Wants: 191
Gots: 22 | FT: 2
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Kuhnhenn Brewing Company visit their website
Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
Fruit / Vegetable Beer |  15.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 07-18-2007

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Photo of spdyfire83
1.96/5  rDev -52%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

182nd Review
Bottle to FredFest taster

From notes. Shared a while back with some excellent dudes one summer night in CO.

A: Dull, dark cranberry. No head on vigorous pour.

S: Yuck. Smells like burnt rubber, rotten veg, and over-ripened mixed berries. Not a good start.

T: The unpleasantness continues...mild fruit/berry sweetness up-front with bitter chocolate and toffee middle. The end is absolutely miserable though and I needed another beer to cleanse my palate. So much going on here, but the ABV overshadows the taste. Not enjoyable whatsoever and I was hard-pressed to finish my 1.5 ounce sample if that says anything. Simply putrid.

M: Full bodied with zero carbonation.

O: I was stoked to get two bottles of this beer in a trade a while back and was waiting for the "right time" to open it. I don't think I waited too long, I just think this beer was off (probably just the bottle). Not sure what the cellaring conditions were prior to it coming into my possession, but I was terribly disappointed with this - so much that I traded my other bottle away. Won't be returning to this anytime soon. A darn shame because I really like a lot of their other beers. (1,174 characters)

Photo of SacoDeToro
2.28/5  rDev -44.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Bottle at recent Woodshop Tasting in Temple City.

The beer poured a dark red/brown with a small white head.

The beer smelled of stale fruit and had vague malt aromas that I couldn't quite pin down. Boozy too.

The flavor of the beer was all over the place. Stale black currants - some sour note - flat and non-descript hop characteristics - strange stale caramel malts. Oh, yeah, the alcohol was very untamed on this one. It had a good deal of fusels that came through added to the bitterness in the finish.

The mouthfeel of the beer was a little thin. The carbonation was slightly prickly.

This beer was a mess IMO. I'm not sure what the brewers were going for, but whatever it was, it's not to be repeated in the same fashion. This is too bad too - the American Imperial Stout I had from them recently was outstanding. (824 characters)

Photo of BearsOnAcid
2.37/5  rDev -41.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

I don't recall the vintage. It was in the same bottle as the raspberry eisbock. No wax.

Pour dark brown and syrupy. Smell is an alcohol bomb and currants. Huge cloying sweetness and currants. Tastes like raspberry or black cherry jam. Strong alcohol and sweet finish. This beer is more of a dessert beer. Barely any drinkability. I wouldn't recommend drinking it by itself. This small bottle probably has 600+ calories in it. I don't get the appeal of a beer like this. (470 characters)

Photo of tai4ji2x
2.7/5  rDev -33.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

i believe this was a trade from flandersned. please correct me if i'm mistake.

2007 green bottle w/ dark red wax on cap. black label, white background.

from notes, tasted in june 2009. poured into small tulip glass.

very dark brown, red tones under the light. 1-finger fizzy tan head, soon fades to wisps and ring, then eventually just a thin ring and no wisps. lace ring after each sip, but slides right back down.

aroma: currants upfront, also concord grape juice. berry skins. caramel and graham cracker underneath. fruit remains dominant to the end tho. touch of alcohol, touch of medicinal phenols.

taste: fruit upfront w/ "jammy" character or like fruit preserves, but accompanied by overly medicinal phenols and booze. cough syrup! notes of grassy hop, some caramel, but all drowned out by the cough syrup character.

medium body, lightly syrupy, but phenols, fusels and booze come in for a sticky astringency that just annoys. carbonation is tingly, but just brings out more cloying fruit and cough syrup. kind of yuck...

dunno what happened here. loved it on tap at EBF '08 (1,088 characters)

Photo of Crosling
2.78/5  rDev -31.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Basically a dark muddy brown color with a thin, quickly diminishing foam. Light wafting reveals some nice aromas of black currant, chocolate, toffee and red licorice, but a strong sniff reveals an awful core of medicinal qualities, like a trip to the pharmacy and a big whiff of antibiotics. Flavor is too fruity and too sweet. I feel like there is a great tasting beer underneath the overly fruity, overly sweet, medicinal mess. There is some very tasty notes of dessert-like malts, but overall, tastes like a handful of pills and sugary sweet black currants. Disappointed. Had higher hopes. (592 characters)

Photo of Ineedabeerhere
3.05/5  rDev -25.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

2007 6.3oz, thanks to Greg for the trade. I had been warned about this one, but still wasn't quite prepared.

Pours a purplish, deep ruby color, still, barely a bubble forming in my 5oz snifter.

Whoa, tons of berries in the nose. Macerated in sugar syrup. Blackberries especially, but there is some of a darker cherry note too. Some alcohol through the back, stinging just a bit. A bit messy overall. The taste is like a very robust fruit juice blend, grape, cherry and blackberry. There's something harsh in the finish, not all alcohol, its kind of toffee but with an edge to it. Booze lingering down the throat throughout the finish. Uggh, very sweet and a bit messy.

Not huge body-wise, but has a considerable sweetness. Really slowed down the drinkability. I split the nip bottle with another person and neither of us had any desire to finish the pour. Interesting to try, but a true sipper and not something I really have much desire to drink again. (959 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
3.1/5  rDev -24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

2007 Vintage courtesy of Kevin. Shared with a couple friends.

A: The pour is a murky dark amber color with a ring of off-white head forming around the outside of the glass.

S: The nose starts off with with extremely sweet fruits, particularly currants and red grapes. There's a caramel undertone to the beer as well as some sweet brown sugar and cola.

T: Lots of sweet red grapes, currants, and cherries to keep the sugary fruit character theme. More sweetness from caramel and cola. This one has a weird flavor that comes through as it warms up (maybe cough syrup), perhaps from the alcohol.

M: The body is thick and syrupy, and the beer is fairly lowly carbonated.

D: This was just cloying and got worse the more I drank. Too bad since I really enjoy most Kuhnhenn beers and the raspberry eisbock. (804 characters)

Photo of JDV
3.18/5  rDev -22.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottles courtesy of hoppymeal, and Ibrew2or3. Thanks! Pours a rich brownish muddy maroon color. Smell is strong and very aromatic concentrated berries and some alcohol. Taste is rich, sweet berry/grape cassis flavor and alcohol. Somewhat medicinal and liquier like. Warming. Interesting and good in very small increments but can quickly become too much. (353 characters)

Photo of toastdog
3.36/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Poured from the small (approx 7 oz) bottle into a Duvel tulip.
A: A murky brown liquid with serious thickness and reddish highlights. The thin head dissipates quickly leaving a few small trails of tiny bubbles rising through the beer.

S: The smell of sugary-sweet currants and dried fruit hits the nose...and the glass is more than 18'' from my nose. Up close, the high sweetness rides currant, cherry and cranberry-juice notes, with a little alcohol heat hiding underneath. Serious, seriously big aromas. Based on the smell, I expect the flavor to be syrupy.

T: And syrupy it is. And tart, tart, tart. Like cherry Nyquil. Loads and loads of cotton-candy sweetness and curranty tartness, with warming alcohol that doesn't quite taste like 15%. A very single-minded beer, just CURRANTS!!!

Tasted with cheese (a two-year cheddar) some of the more outrageous notes fade as the fat coats the tongue. Definitely a dessert beer, the equivalent of a Sauternes. I can't say I love the flavor, but it's pleasurable.

M: Thick, but with more carbonation than I expected hiding in there. That is good; keeps the flavor from cloying.

D: You really only want or need one, to share, after a nice big meal, with the nuts, cheeses and dried fruits. What? You don't do that? You should. It's terribly civillized.

I can't say that I generally love this beer. But it's the right thing for dessert; this or a raspberry eisbock. But if you're going that route, why not a Thomas Hardy's or spring for the $$$ it will cost for a good Sauternes? That being said, this would be a terrific ager, and would DEFINITELY be something that a group of people would enjoy. (1,646 characters)

Photo of 7ways
3.39/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours and appears like a sherry or lighter port, kind of purple, brown, and eerily translucent.

Smells like a pungent fortified strawberry/raspberry fruit wine. No hops to speak of. And enough booze to kill a small animal. Robust and vinous.

The taste is an assault of strawberry, currant, and raspberry. It's kind of like jam or marmalade with alcohol thrown in. Madeira and Harvey's Bristol Cream on the finish. Very intense, but not too hot.

Lush mouthfeel, kind of overwhelming.

A 3 oz pour was more than enough and lasted me 15 minutes. This would go very well with a creamy dessert like creme brulee or chocolate mousse, and was very good mixed 1:2 with Dark Horse Plead the 5th RIS. (694 characters)

Photo of waltonc
3.4/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A veritable Christmas fruitcake, this pours slightly ruddy red/brown with no head. Smells like Christmas hard candies my parents used to get way back in the day - sweet, spicy, and fruity. Taste follows suit - toffee, caramel, chocolate, spices, and currants. Thick-bodied with virtually no carbonation. Interesting dessert beer, but not one I'll go out of my way to try again. (377 characters)

Photo of nickd717
3.48/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle shared by bring - thanks, Barry! Now the consensus on this beer is that it's very good apparently, but in the immortal words of Bill Lumbergh from "Office Space," "Ummm yeeeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there." It's not a bad beer, but there is something a little off with it.

Pours a mostly clear dark brown with purplish hues and a small tannish head.

Aroma is great fresh cassis, spice, and sweet malt. Smells like I'd hope it to.

Flavor is a little cough syrup-like but otherwise good. Lots of cassis, caramel, chocolate, dark fruit, and alcohol.

Fairly boozy on the palate with medium body and low carbonation.

Decent stuff, a little underwhelming though. Sort of tough to drink a lot of this. (749 characters)

Photo of aasher
3.5/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 8oz. Bottle courtesy of Rempo, thanks Mark!

This beer pours a syrupy dark brown with purple overtones and no carbonation. The nose is big and syrupy with a lot of blueberry and grape characteristics. It definitely has loads of residual sugar. The flavors are odd. Its medicinal and has loads of blueberry, grape, almost generic sucker like fruit flavors. It's interesting. I don't care for the finish. It has too much sugar and is a little astringent. It is sticky sweet. The astringency definitely takes ahold with more sips. I'm definitely grateful that I could try this but It it just wasn't up my alley. (613 characters)

Photo of bmanning
3.63/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to nflmvp for this 12 oz bottle that pours a murky brown with absolutely no head. Aroma is very unique with lots of licorice and grape (candy grape flavor, not the fruit). Wow, now the taste is pretty extreme and complex. Good thing I love licorice because it just smacks you in the face on first sip! This beer tastes like both licorice and grape candy were melted in an aged barleywine. Very strange taste, but I like it. This beer is certainly a slow sipper though - the alcohol burn is very high. Overall I'm glad I got to try this beer, but I don't think I'll want to buy or trade for it in the future. Maybe it could have benefited with a few years in the cellar. (676 characters)

Photo of wisrarebeer
3.65/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottled in 2007/187ml. Popped with a slight hiss but poured with no head. Full fruity nose (mild port-like) but slightly medicinal. Fruity, full taste, some heat, Nice clean finish for age. Very little oxidation. (212 characters)

Photo of kirok1999
3.7/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a thick dark brown with just a little bit of an off white head.
Smell is overwhelming, sweet and tart candied fruit.
Taste is again overwhelming. Massive amounts of tart fruits, I guess it's currants, I really don't recall eating many currants. Lots of other fruits as well, mostly grape. Almost no carbonation gives this a dense mouthfeel and leaves me with just a hint of chocolate covered raspberries.
Don't know how the hell anyone could drink more than one of these. It's a real experience and I thank mcallister for bringing this one over. (552 characters)

Photo of Bung
3.74/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 6.3 oz. Nearly still red mohoghany pour. Not much more to say.

Aroma, port, sherry. Candied sugar, light brown sugar. It's sweet but very inviting.

Sherry quality very present in the taste. Cassis, actually didn't find the taste nearly sweet as the aroma. Slight fig, roast, very faint dark chocolate.
Just a tad medicinal.

A little boozier than the Raspberry Eis, but still not terrible for 15%. Completely coating, could really use just a bit of carbonation. It was difficult to drink even just the 6 ounces.

Closer to a cordial than a beer. Worth trying, but let someone else foot the bill. (602 characters)

Photo of warnerry
3.76/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

2007 vintage purchased at Winter Solstice 2011; 187 mL bottle

A - Pours a clear red/brown color with no carbonation to speak of.

S - Smell is mostly a wonderful aroma of currents, with a faint amount of alcohol and tootsie roll thrown in.

T - Taste seems to constantly change within a sip. At times fruity, at times boozy, definitely some tootsie roll. Unfortunately, also some unpleasant medicinal tastes and as others have mentioned, some astringent notes. Also a bit boozy, but pretty mild considering the abv. Definitely a mixed bag that doesn't live up to the aroma, but is still mostly enjoyable.

M - The astringency kills the mouthfeel a bit. Otherwise slightly syrupy.

O - Definitely an interesting one from Kuhnhenn. Haven't had this before, so I have no idea what the aging has been. There are a lot of nice things going on here, but unfortunately some unpleasant flavors prevent this from being great. (918 characters)

Photo of HopHead84
3.77/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

6/8/2011

2007 nip shared by Javier, thanks!

A: The beer is still, with only a few stray bubbles that disappear almost immediately. The color is a brownish magenta. An energetic swirl brings the liquid up the glass and leaves a thick collar. Great color.

S: Caramel, raspberry, toffee, brown sugar, and cassis. It’s like candied currants, resembling a desert beverage. Faint booze notes. Chocolate comes out as the beer opens up. The beer is lightly oxidized, lending sherry notes.

T: Candied sugary sweetness overwhelms the palate. Cassis is immediately evident, accompanied by caramel, toffee, and booze. Oxidation is once again sherry-like and complimentary. The sweetness makes three ounces more than enough. The finish exhibits much warming.

M: Medium in body and still. Mouthfeel is smooth and sticky with ample alcohol warming.

Overall: A very sweet desert beer. Fantastic nose, but the sweetness is a bit overpowering in the flavor. Worth a try, though. (969 characters)

Photo of corby112
3.79/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark plum color that's completely opaque with a miniscule off-white head that lingers for a minute before disappearing. No lacing.

Sweet vinous aroma that's bursting with currant, dark cherry, blueberry, grape and other dark berries. This is countered by a nice malt character with hints of chocolate cake, fudge and toffee. Slightly syrupy/medicinal character but not overpowering and although the ABV is really high, there us little to no booze in the nose. Smells like dessert!

Medium bodied with a very prominent vinous, dark fruit flavor that's countered by dark malt notes and boozy sweetness. Lots of sweet currant flavor along with some grape, blackberry, blueberry and other dark berries before being countered by hints of toffee and chocolate cake. Even with the maltier notes it's still too sweet for my liking. The ABV is decently masked considering its 15% but there still a decent amount of boozy warmth throughout. (945 characters)

Photo of pwoods
3.82/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Kels for bringing this bottle back about 2 years ago. 6.3oz green nip bottle poured into a tulip.

A: Pours deep ruby with a thin wisp of head that doesn't last. Some legs but no real lacing.

S: Deep toffee and caramel aromas. Chocolate covered cherries and currants. Plenty of smooth, mellowed alcohol.

T/M: Intense sweetness, but a rich sweetness. Sweet instead of rich chocolate with more of the toffee and caramel. The currents are potent and mix well with the pleasant alcohol. Body is full with just a wisp of carbonation... A touch more would help.

D: Tasty and interesting but not something I'd go to very often. Especially at it's price. (659 characters)

Photo of sinstaineddemon
3.83/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

A - this fruity beer is a dark deep ruby/crimson color, with a tan/creamed coffee colored head thin and dissipating as it arrives, too dark to note and carbonation

S - the aroma is heavy on berries, to no surprise, heavy on blackcurrants, but also grapes and cranberry, very sweet and thick aroma, like that of a jam or preserve

T - smooth fruitiness at first, like the aroma, at it's best it smells like a high quality preserve and fresh berries, at its low end its a bit like cough syrup, take nothing from this beer, each sip shows different sides of this beer, but what is evident througout is the quality of this beer

M&D - throughout the beer is a distinctive velvety, nigh syrupy smoothness, that slides down the gullet, a bit too sweet at times, but never the less, an incredible treat, definitely would accompany cake perfectly as an apertif, the menu lists this at 16.5% (883 characters)

Photo of prototypic
3.87/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of hoppymeal. Thanks a ton, Derek!

Vintage 2007

Tenacious Cassis pours a murky, dark brown color. It's definitely hazy. Backlighting shows nice cherry highlights. A thin layer of bubbles briefly appears on the surface, but evaporates quickly. Eh. It's 15% abv. It happens, unfortunately. Lacing was non-existent.

The nose is good. It has a very sweet, malty scent initially. Smells like a mix of caramel and cocoa. A heavy dose of berries and black currants follows. Throw a little cherry in for good measure. It definitely has the 'dessert beer' thing going for it. Surprisingly, the alcohol seems rather tame for 15%. I'm getting a little, but nowhere near that level. Nice job there.

Tenacious Cassis is a good beverage. It's not very reminiscent of beer, but it works pretty well for a fruit/vegetable concoction. It is sweet and malty. The base is a mix of caramel and chocolate malts. Neither seems to overpower the other. The combo works well. Raspberry, black currants, and cherry flavors are strong and work well with the sweet, malty base. Dessert? I believe so. Yeah, there's a bit of alcohol, but what'd you expect? It's most noticeable in flavor. Doesn't feel warm. It finishes sweet and a little fruity.

The body is medium and leans full with some warming. Carbonation is rather light. It has a nice, smooth feel overall. Drinkability is above average. I'm good with one of these smaller bottles, but anymore would be too much. It's damn strong at 15%, too. Gotta be careful with this.

I'm impressed with Tenacious Cassis. Kuhnhenn Brewing does a nice job with fruity dessert beer. It's generally not my favorite style. This one's perfectly packaged in the smaller bottle. It is extreme and certainly a novelty. Not something I could handle much of. Definitely something worth checking out. Thanks, Derek. (1,842 characters)

Photo of roadhouse
3.87/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

6.3 oz. bottle, 2007 vintage, into a tulip

Pours a deep mahogany color with a bit of a fizz of a head but that quickly goes away to nothing and obviously ends up leaving no lace.

Aroma is very sweet with blackberry and currants dominating. The booze is also a big presence. It smells good, but it's somewhat strange to me, almost artificial.

Taste is more of the same, huge sugary sweetness with lots of blackberry and currant but it's a bit more complex than the aroma and there are some bitter notes in the back end which add some more complexity.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, it comes across slightly thin and undercarbonated to me. It's not all that drinkable to me either, I'm glad it's in this size.

I was pretty disappointed by this beer. It was interesting, and I would drink it again if I had the chance, but ultimately I can't say I'd really want to go out of my way to do so. (890 characters)

Photo of craytonic
3.87/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Deep mahogany with ruby edges, almost still

Smell: Sweet black currants

Taste: Very sweet black currant liqueur with some chocolate and toffee undertones. Perhaps some raspberries. You don't taste the sky high ABV.

Mouthfeel: Not sticky but very thick

Drinkability: Very intense and thick, a bit of a one trick pony. Only a 12 oz bottle but best split among friends. If I did it again I'd put it in a wine glass and serve it with desert. (453 characters)

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Kuhnhenn Tenacious Cassis from Kuhnhenn Brewing Company
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