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St. Louis Gueuze Fond Tradition - Brouwerij Van Honsebrouck N.V.

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BA SCORE
89
very good

794 Ratings
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Ratings: 794
Reviews: 299
rAvg: 3.93
pDev: 9.92%
Wants: 16
Gots: 56 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Van Honsebrouck N.V. visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Gueuze |  5.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: rastaman on 08-03-2002)
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Photo of phichifiji00
4.33/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: golden. Pours 2 fingers of thick white head that fades fairly quickly. Almost no lacing. Clear.

Smell: barnyard funk, sour, earthy, slight orange peal/citrus notes.

Taste: Puckering sour, white wine vinegar, earthy, funky.

Mouthfeel: light bodied, light carbonation, very dry finish, acidic.

Overall: a very good gueuze. Not very complex and not overly sour, but a good solid base and very drinkable.

phichifiji00, Oct 26, 2011
Photo of CenCalMario
4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle with Chad (phichifiji00) at Blue Palms - Hollywood, CA.

Nice beer! Liked the appearance, taste, smell, mouthfeel everything. Not overly complex or crazy sour, but a very nice session gueuze that really hit the spot. Not overly pricey either. Would try again!

CenCalMario, Oct 26, 2011
Photo of tronester
3.33/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a hazy golden with a rocky white head. Smells initially of sour apple, followed by an onslaught of funky barnyard. Taste is initially warhead candy acid, followed by some green apple cider, a bit of grainy wheat, and finishing with an aged cheese flavor. Mouthfeel was smooth, average carbonation. Overall interesting, although quite tart and sour. The funky smell was just at about the limit for me, though I was glad I got to try this beer.

tronester, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of Goblinmunkey7
2.93/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Very slightly hazed bright-gold. Head is bright-white, super fluffy and sticks around for a bit. No lacing to speak off. Head dwindles to a small cap in short order. Pronounced carbonation pulls throughout.

Smell: Lemon zest and flesh. Crisp green apple. Just a touch of barnyard. Slightly floral and a little sweet. Some oak/earthiness creeps through the back, but there's not a lot of depth. All of the aromas are up front and disappear pretty quickly. Crisp and clean.

Taste: There's the barnyard. Killer green apple flavor plays over some thin hay and grass notes. Faint earthiness on the back. Citric bite is heavy. Oak rounds things out in the long run. As with the nose, the taste is all up front and doesn't really provide much depth.

Mouthfeel: Almost violently caustic. Crisp and clean. Nice carbonation. Bubbly like champagne. Smooth through the middle. Lacks a little extra punch, but solid.

Overall: Packs a tart/sour punch, but that's about it. Nice green apple flavor keeps things interesting, but it's not rewarding. A decent middle of the road gueuze in every way.

Goblinmunkey7, Oct 19, 2011
Photo of fatmcb1
3.9/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Toronado in San Diego

Orange, yellowish color with a white colored foam. Moderate lacing.

Smells of tart lemon, barnyard, and vinegar. There is also sour apple and pears.

Wow. Very tart and acidic. Getting past the sourness, there is some citrus and malt. Leaves a serious sour aftertaste.

This is thick bodied and well carbonated. It is dry and crisp.

I enjoyed the beer, but am still getting used to the style. I enjoyed how the citrus intermingled with the sourness, and wasn't completely overpowered.

fatmcb1, Oct 11, 2011
Photo of Filosoof
3.3/5  rDev -16%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I didn't like the Van Honsebrouck beers. And this is another one to be disliked.

L: stange, trouble, exact like Lipton Ice Tea;
S: this smells like a not too deep geuze, with fresh apples;
T: disappointing; I miss the oak and complexity of the better geuze; well seen, there's only a one-dimensional sourness without any depth.
O: I won't buy this one another time. There's no reason to do that.

Filosoof, Oct 07, 2011
Photo of MattAtAmeriCraft
3.8/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on "100120"
Fond Tradition 12.7oz bottle
Poured into a DT tulip

Pours a simple orange with an off-white head that goes away with a typical lambic speed. Not much too look at in the glass.

Smells of brett, sour apple, a little funky wet saddle as well.

Taste very acidic and brett forward start with a soft pineapple subtly in there.

Mouthfeel was my favorite aspect of this beer. Great carbonation with a super dryness that lingers on the palate.

Overall not bad but I enjoy Boon Geuze a bit more.

MattAtAmeriCraft, Oct 05, 2011
Photo of wadecats
4.08/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

We had a couple each of the St Louis Gueuze which was just barely vinegary, lightly tart - very possible to taste the new and old in this... if I knew better. But for sure I could taste that there was some horse blanket-wrapped Baldwin apples that were allowed to sour in an abandoned Belgian toilet, and then maybe a little rotting tassel-rope from the robe of a sleeping, defrocked minister in the sun. The laicizing really comes through in the beer's turbidity and especially when warmed up around 68 degrees, giving it a hue of well hydrated but recently passed kidney stone urine.
Despite what this past paragraph says, I actually liked this beer a lot.

wadecats, Sep 18, 2011
Photo of foogerd
3.88/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Hazy piss yellow colored body with an eggshell colored head.

S- Sour lemonheads, dusty cardboard, and green apples.

T- Strong intense acidic lemon juice flavor that causes puckering, the funk follows , and malty straw flavors balance it out.

M- Highly carbonated with a thin to medium lively body.

O- Not as intense as im used to from this style. Might good for the intiate to the style. Overall solid offering but nothing amazing.

foogerd, Sep 12, 2011
Photo of dimce
4.08/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle dated 080620, poured into slender glass.

A- a dull, bit of golden complexion to it. Thin head of bubbles on top. Well carbonated from a close up look.

S- a light lemony smell to it. Definitely can smell a bit of funk, nothing too overpowering to it.

T- a lemony taste just like the smell with some other fruitiness noted. You get a bit of funk kicked in midway of tasting the beer. Sourness is there, but not enough to make me pucker up. I expected a bit more squeeze my lips together reaction, but no. Still delicious.

M- kind of thick a d syrupy, good fell. Medium bodied and goes down very smooth despite the carbonation you observe.

O- good lambic to try out as a first. Overall a good beer I wouldn't mind trying again. Not bad for 7.99. Great to relax and sip on.

dimce, Sep 11, 2011
Photo of FosterJM
3.48/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

803rd Review on BA
Bottle to Strange
12.7 oz
Bottle date: 10 01 20

App- A very golden looking orange with a one finger bubbly, fizzing head. No cling or lace, just feel with the beer.

Smell- A very light lemony astringent note with some yeast, funk, barn and hay behind it.

Taste- A tad bit thick on the taste on this one. Heavy handed in the process. Much more of a syrupy flavor mixed with the funk and fruit notes and the last flavors to come across the yeast.

Mouth- Thicker medium bodied with a medium carbonation. A thick barnyard residual flavor.

Drink- Eh, it wasn’t that good and it wasn’t that bad. Just a bit thick for the style. Didn’t satisfy as I would have liked it to.

FosterJM, Sep 09, 2011
Photo of Beerandraiderfan
4.3/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful orange and peach color to this one. Thin white head.
Good sour aroma, no distinct identifiable fruit aroma to it, if had to pick, id say the ol standby lemon.

Great pucker factor here, salivation up, very sour, very clean, peach or apricot seems to be the direction this one is all about. Could drink this all day

$9 on tap at naja's

Beerandraiderfan, Sep 08, 2011
Photo of ehammond1
3.18/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle

Urge Gastropub
San Diego, CA

A dull orange and peach with a thin white head. Highly carbonated. Looks thin, with a myriad of little bubbles racing their way to the top of the glass.

The aroma is of tart lemon, some wood, yeast, and barnyard funk, though nothing is particularly leaping out of the glass. Though all appropriate, they all seems subdued, faint, and faraway.

The flavor doesn't quite match what I was hoping for after smelling this beer. The barnyard funk, lemon, apple, and wood components are all there, but I want much more tart and sour from this beer.

Thin to medium bodied though seems a touch metallic.

A somewhat sweet and lemony version of a gueuze. I would have preferred less sweetness and far more biting sour tartness.

ehammond1, Aug 23, 2011
Photo of ferrari29
4.38/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Beer poured from bottle into a St. Louis Gueuze Stange shaped glass

A - Beer poured with a yellow, sparkling orange colored body; nice half finger sized white colored foam; well carbonated; some lacing

S - Smells great, I guess I'm a bit biased toward sour smelling beer, but this one takes the cake; it a bit of lemon, vinegar and other strong astringent aromas; light malt scents and nice citrus finish; acidic apple smell

T - Very nice tart lemon flavor; sour; astringent bite and aftertaste; hints of citrus and nice blend of sour ingredients; vinegar; apple, acidic

M - Very tart, perfect; nice bubbly body; filing but not super thick; dry and crisp; acidic flavor lasts for a bit then fades away

D - I really liked this beer; went well with my mussels at Brasserie Beck (DC).; worked well with fine cheeses and fish entree; I would highly recommend to others

ferrari29, Aug 19, 2011
Photo of brentk56
4.35/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a hazy apricot color with a nice, frothy head that leaves considerable lacing behind

Smell: Tart lemon/lime and other citrus elements combined with considerable funk

Taste: Tart and sour, with lemon/lime citrus elements and an increasingly puckerish sourness that builds through mid-palate; underneath, there is just the vaguest hint of citrusy sweetness on the tip of the tongue; the finish is long lasting and overwhelmingly sour

Mouthfeel: Light to medium body with moderate carbonation; quite puckerish

Overall: A fine example of the lambic tradition

brentk56, Aug 17, 2011
Photo of Pencible
4.22/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle dated 10 01 20
A: This poured a hazy gold with lots of quickly disipating white head.
S: It smelled like tart white grape and apple cider vinegar, with funky oak and lemon zest.
T: It tasted like tart white grape and sour apple cider vinegar and funky oak, with lemon zest and a bit of candi sugar and clove. It had an ultra clean and tart aftertaste that was still somehow mellow.
M: It was thin and bubbly with lots of natural carbonation. Nice and light body.
D: This was a very nice gueuze that was balanced between tart and funky, with some sweetness so it wasn't overpowering. The body was fitting, and it had a very smooth finish, so it was surprisingly easy to drink. Good example of the style for those learning to appreciate sours. I'm sure it could age for a long time, but it was still quite enjoyable (relatively) fresh.

Pencible, Aug 13, 2011
Photo of Stinkypuss
4.05/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

St.Louis Gueuze Fond Tradition

Pours a nice golden orange color. Aroma is sweet, sour, funky and cidery. Follows through to the taste, with a pronounced acidic sour note. Lemon peel, tart sour apple candy and a mellow funk all grace the palate. Great effervescence, though a bit more mellowed ontap versus the bottle. Finishes light, airy, dry and crisp. The bugs really did their job on this one, a nice sour and a smooth, sophisticated one at that.

Stinkypuss, Aug 03, 2011
Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.05/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Well earned. Bottle cracked open to celebrate the end of a busy few weeks at work.

Pours a deep golden colour, definitely burnished and orange at the deeper parts, quite clear, with a fine ring of white bubbles around the edge of the glass. Body looks surprisingly still—I'm used to gueuze being a very vigorous and vibrant style of beer. Overall, looks very decent.

Nose is gorgeous, giving those classic funky sour notes of crushed citrus, wine grapes, oak and rubber. Perhaps not as pronounced and complex as some, but still very good. Very clean, however, and very crisp.

Taste is light and vibrant, with a clear acidity through the centre which forms the basis of most of the palate. Sparkling, but very light mouthfeel accentuates potential comparisons to champagne, but given the dryness throughout, I would have preferred something fuller to round it a little more. Still, I like the clarity and crispness—very refined.

A good gueuze—perhaps not one of the very best I've tried, but very clean and refreshing all the same. And let's face it, while I love a detailed and complex gueuze, sometimes you just want your sour beers to be clean, crisp and uncomplicated.

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For the sake of comparison, I also tried a 12-year old bottle (1999 vintage) of this recently at Kulminator in Antwerp. Interestingly, it mellowed a lot, and while it is still not the greatest of gueuzes, the age really helped this one, I feel.

Pours a hazy golden yellow colour with absolutely no head. Carbonation forms, but doesn't stream. It looks tired and very old.

Nose is very mellow. Dusty oak characters, some green apple a little funk and muck. What's missing is the cutting acidity. This is actually extremely smooth and very condensed. It's really nice.

Taste is smooth and mild. The acidity has fallen away nicely. Crisp apple characters, a hint of olive juice, some vegetation, but all mellow and smooth. Rounder than the usual young gueuze, and well integrated. It's flat, certainly, but there's no hint of oxidation. Gorgeous.

This is, indeed, gueuze at the end of its life. Obviously, there are better gueuzes which could probably hold up longer, but 12 years is enough for this one. I love the mellow integration and the blunting of the acidity, but you wouldn't want to hold onto it much longer, I feel.

Appearance: 3
Smell: 4.5
Taste: 4.5
Mouthfeel: 4
Drinkability: 4

lacqueredmouse, Aug 02, 2011
Photo of doughanson78
3.98/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

375ml bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Nice golden color. Very clear with lots of yeast sediment floating around. One finger bright white head that quickly dissipates. Lace falls right back down the glass.

S: Very sour and tart. Sour apples. Lemon. Slight wet hay. Mild funkiness.

T: Big sourness. Very tart. Like a bite from an Imperial Granny Smith Apple with one of those sour ass gumballs I used to eat as a kid. Some lemon characters. A slightly funky aftertaste.

M: Light bodied. Light carbonation. Which I Think is par for this style. Slightly dry. Great MouthPucker! Ass-hole puckers a bit too.

O: Another good beer, but I'm still kinda left wondering what all the hype is about. Not wanting to spend big money on the rare ones to find out (Yet!). Will definitely keep exploring this style. Just enough to keep me intrigued.

doughanson78, Jul 26, 2011
Photo of SubpoenaDeuces
3.58/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A This has a pencil lead head with almost no lacing. It is light orange at its center with light yellow and gold edges. It boasts a slightly unfiltered appearance. It’s like a 6 year old at CVS, you don’t want to touch him but you know he is a little sticky and filthy.

S: Not surprisingly, it is stick and filthy. There are sour and sweet tart notes are blended with hints of granny smith apples underneath. I don’t want to go out on a limb but I am going to say a Skittle reduction is at play here.

T There is a pleasant sweetness for a split second with a latent backroundhouse to the bitter zones immediately thereafter. Its a sucker punch which leaves your mouth a bit dry but welcoming more if only for the strange assault. It’s like getting socked in the armpit, you aren’t mad youre just a little perplexed and glad it wasn’t worse. It provides almost no hops and this toes the line closer to an American Wild Ale but without the funky complexity.

M: This is very light and similar to a ciders badass cousin, the one who learned compound cussing earlier and gave you Too Short cassette tapes. Its like the tiny asian fighter who you underestimate who delivers fast swift blows that disorient and surprise your mouth. It is clean, crisp and damaging to your bitter zones.

D: This style is in my opinion fantastic for hot weather and, if you have some water on hand, a great companion outdoors on the beach or a boat. If you like very mild lagers then you will disagree but then you are also a raging pacifist and it is unclear how you ended up reading this review in the first place.

Narrative: 47 years of service. Francine Manzana gave that caramel apple pop company the best years of her life and she was terminated “for cause” for reading a Patricia Cornwell novel when she wasn’t clocked out. Francine wasn’t going to take this lying down. She knew the secret behind the tartness in those pops, and she had full intention on taking this issue public. With her box of belongings from her desk she strode over to the quality control center only to find that Loretta was out. “I will make them feel the tart bitterness of abandonment, just like they showed me.” With a few calibrations she reset the dials and the mixture began running an entirely new batch of Caramel Apple pops through the line. She stared at her spiteful reflection in the bubbling pool of acidic green glucose. The wafts of the additional citric acid stung her eyes and nostrils. Francine smiled and tossed her mystery novel into the simmering goo, for she had an unemployment officer to speak to.

SubpoenaDeuces, Jul 22, 2011
Photo of dpasotti
3.15/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Murky, muddy, and cider-like appearance with a decent head that scrambles away leaving a tiny ring around the edge. This is the darkest and cloudiest gueuze I've had -- definitely not a great-looking beer.

Funky and slightly medicinal on the nose, with some fruit. Not a sharp and fresh lemony scent, but more of a tropical fruit character. Similar taste: unidentifiable light fruit with some earthy notes. However, there really isn't much complexity here. The earthy tones from the bugs are pretty one-dimensional, and that dimension is nothing too special. Tart acidity on the finish, but I certainly wouldn't call it puckering.

The mouthfeel is this beer's best characteristic. It is medium-light with fairly high carbonation, but it's actually very smooth. I enjoy super-sour beers, but the absence of that characteristic here makes this one damn drinkable on a hot day. Overall this is a good beer, but nothing more. While I would be more than happy to drink this for free, I think I will stick with Girardin if I'm shelling out 8+ bucks a bottle.

(Bottled June 2008)

dpasotti, Jul 20, 2011
Photo of harrymel
3.8/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best by: 09/2015

A: golden ale with near excellent clarity and no head formation. A broken sheet of white head. No lace.

S: Some hay, fresh cut grass, manure, lemon juice, oak. Nothing really stands out as the dominating tone.

T: Plenty tart with lots of white vinegar flavors and some nice acidity. None of the funk comes through at this segment. Pretty tart actually, surprised by the tart.

M: Thin with high carb, appropriate for the style IMO. Dry finish.

O: This one is pretty hardcore, not really balanced, but that's the goodness for me. Really sour.

harrymel, Jul 15, 2011
Photo of Aaron420
3.83/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured this into a New Belgium Tulip.

A: It poured a murky golden color with a white fluffy head that died rather quickly.

S: It smells of a nice tartness upfront with a follow up of a little wood almost.

T: You don't get the same tartness on the initial taste but it does come in toward the end. You do get alot of the fruity tones in the beginning with the tartness following.

M: It is not so sour that you pucker on every taste but just enough where you pheel it on every sip.

O: This is a good beer would enjoy another one anytime I came across it. But would not go out of my way to find it.

Aaron420, Jul 14, 2011
Photo of megahurts4
4.33/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Castle Brewery Gueuze Fond Tradition

Appearance: hazy gold, small head, and good lacing.

Smell: unfiltered acidic sourness and a hint of fruit.

Taste: strong fermented fruit and a nice sourness.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy and smooth.

Overall:
This is a great gueuze. The flavors are balanced very well and provide an explosion of flavor with a fairly quick decay.

megahurts4, Jul 12, 2011
Photo of davey101
3.58/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottles on: 2010 01 20. 375ml capped bottle poured into a palm tulip, close to 50 degrees. I like the foil around the neck, but I'm a little bit let down there is no cork. I'm a sucker for corked guezes...

A - Dark copper orange. Nice white fluffy head that dies down to one finger. Well carbonated. Classic gueze-look

S - Oak, apples, lemon, some spice and a little bit of funk. Very well balanced aroma, and the oak and musk seem to be fairly dominant over the fruity notes.

T - Sour apples and lemon, with some oak and spice. Mouth puckering tartness. Not as much funk as I would have liked.

O - This is well balanced in all the right areas. This was also priced pretty well at $7. A great entry level gueze to try along with a cuvee rene. I've been drinking more and more lambics now through, and I'm just really craving the funky brett notes.

davey101, Jul 04, 2011
St. Louis Gueuze Fond Tradition from Brouwerij Van Honsebrouck N.V.
89 out of 100 based on 794 ratings.