Dragon Stout - Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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426 Ratings
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Ratings: 426
Reviews: 232
rAvg: 3.49
pDev: 16.91%
Wants: 16
Gots: 24 | FT: 0
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Jamaica

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-30-2001

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Photo of Sammy
3.7/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Roasty coffee flavour disguises alcohol. On smooth side compared to national brands. Popular with mates. But would get bored after half a bottle. Bit aggressive carbonation, malt and syrupy sweet. Dark brown pleasing head. More than acceptable as transition beer to micros.

Photo of kylehay2004
3.06/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: very black body with a two finger light tan head.

S: coconut, milk and cream. Little else.

T: very milky and sweet. Cream, coconut and chocolate. Not very beer like and fairly sweet. Very subtle hop bitterness late in the aftertaste.

M: medium body and moderate to high carbonation.

Overall: typical milk stout however the malts are especially hidden here.

Photo of metter98
3.48/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is near black in color (traces of amber are visible at the edges when held up to the light) and poured with a thin tan head that quickly faded away leaving thin layer of bubbles covering the surface. A light to medium amount of carbonation is visible.
S: The aroma is rather sweet and the nose has notes of chocolate and roasted malts along with hints of dark fruits.
T: Like the smell, there is also a moderate amount of sweetness in the taste, which is quite complex and has flavors of caramel, cherries, milk chocolate, molasses, prunes, raisins and
roasted malts.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied, creamy and a bit thin on the palate.
D: The light body of this beer makes it very drinkable during warmer months; the only thing that slowed me down in drinking it faster was the sweetness.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.45/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The Caribbean Isle beer drinking culture is a peculiar one. It's either feast or famine with either the grainy sweet lagers or robustly malted stouts. Many say it's the influence of light bodied German lagers for hot weather or the English influence wit the stouts. But where's the IPAs?

Dragon Stout pours with a creamy and viscous visual texture. As the beer settles in the glass, it releases a sandy tan head that's creamy, whipped, and lightly moussey. However short lived, the beer quickly dispels its carbonation and falls quite still barley half way through the session.

Malty sweet aromas of chocolate, molasses, coffee, and lesser notes of dark fruit. The balanced scents never allow one attribute to dictate the others.

Bold flavors of sweet malt keeps grounded the flavors of French press coffee, roasted walnuts, cocoa, licorice, and medium scorched caramel. After the roast and cocoa trail off, the sweetness is exposed with the taste of hard candy and cola soft drinks. Mild peppercorn and toast help to finish the beer with a linger of cola in aftertaste.

Full bodied, expecially as the early carbonation keeps the beer expansive and creamy. But the middle texture sheds its carbonation and allows a syrupy feel to linger indefinitely on the palate. Alcohol warmth and mild roast astringency are lasting trigamental memories.

The beer almost succeeds as a tropical version of stout. But its flimsy middle palate and finish allows the beer to fall apart and expose harsher and mild artificial taste. Still, it's the best product that I've yet to try from the makers of Red Stripe.

Photo of Knapp85
3.8/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a deep brown color with a foamy tan head on top. The smell of the beer had some coffee notes to it with a light chocolate aroma as well. The taste of the beer had some brown sugar sweetness along with a roasted dry finish. The mouthfeel was thin, I felt it could have used a little more body. Overall this stout was interesting. I would try it again if the mood struck me.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.38/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

300ml Bottle - Jet black brew with a nice dark head with good retention. Nose of alcohol and roastiness is very pleasant. Coffee and chocolate aftertaste. Good body and high alcohol taste give it a good edge. One of the best foreign stout I've tasted.

Photo of biboergosum
3.86/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

300ml bottle. According to the label, this is brewed by 'Red Stripe', Kingston, Jamaica, as if a beer can brew another beer. Sheesh.

This beer pours a very, very dark cola brown hue (black, I suppose, once you step back), with pervasive reddish highlights, and three fingers of puffy, foamy, and effervescent beige head, which leaves some attractive graphic novel webbed lace around the glass as it evenly subsides.

It smells of dry, dusty, bittersweet chocolate, roasted caramel malt, a banana, prune, and mushed apple fruitiness, mild milky coffee notes, a bit of herbal, earthy hops, and a hovering alcohol warmth. The taste is lightly toasted bready caramel malt, molasses, raw brown sugar, cocoa, mild, stewing Continental coffee, earthy anise, cola syrup, muddled herbal hops, and a agreeably weak alcohol astringency.

The bubbles are quite understated, the body a dense medium weight, genuinely smooth, and even a tad creamy, as that herbal tincture essence gets no play here. It finishes on the sweet side, sure, the caramel, chocolate, and fruit all settling in nicely together, yet a certain plain dryness balances things out.

A pleasant, well-flavoured export stout, the malt running rampant here, to a certain degree. Traditional, warming, and pretty drinkable. I'd sure like to get a bottle of island Guinness FES to compare side by side with this.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.26/5  rDev -35.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pours a black body with brown edges and a foamy, khaki-colored head.

Smell: Aroma of odd, seemingly artificial chocolate and licorice with a hint of a well-used CoinStar machine.

Taste: A crude, unrefined taste of sweet chocolate, licorice, and dark corn syrup. Sugar is thrown haphazardly all over the palate. Hints of loose change. Finishes with a sour, twangy fruitiness. All in all, it's like an ice cream topping purchased at the dollar store.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation.

Drinkability: I can't conceive of myself ever giving this beer another go.

Photo of TMoney2591
3.56/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a Dogfish Head shaker pint glass.

Pours a nearly opaque black-brown with about a half-finger of frothy ecru head. There's a small but good amount of lacing produced. The nose is quite faint; chocolate, coffee, and dark malts are all I really get olfactorily. The taste follows for the most part, though the coffee is decidedly subdued. The chocolate is lightly bittered, and the dark malts lean toward the wheaty side. The body is a strong medium, with moderate carbonation, a smooth feel, and a surprisingly dry finish. Overall, I wouldn't describe this brew as the best stout I've ever had, but it's still pretty tasty and highly drinkable.

Photo of NeroFiddled
3.8/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Black with ruby highlights. Nice, creamy, dark tan head that holds fairly well. The aroma is a touch roasty and somewhat musty with a bit of alcohol. The body is much thinner than expected for the style, but the carbonation is fine and it's lightly tingly on the tongue. The flavor is sweetish and fruity up-front, followed by some caramel-tinged grainy malt and roastiness, and then a solid hop edge and a somewhat tangy and alcohol-washed finish. There's an astringency present in the aftertaste that sticks in the mouth unpleasantly. It's sweet and fruity, and offers more light toffee than roastiness; but it's still a pretty lackluster beer considering the style. It's unique, but not very well made.

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.7/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 284ml bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a dark brown color, with a thin light brown head that fades quickly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is faint but contains coffee, chocolate, roasted malts and dark fruit.

T: The taste is sweet with flavors of milk chocolate, coffee and dark fruit. There's a hearty malt character but it's thin for a stout. The hops presence is mild complementary and brings some balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Smooth and crisp, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down ok, not too filling, good kick, good representation of style, this is a decent stout that is worth drinking for a while, but there are better ones out there.

Photo of RblWthACoz
4.06/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours very dark with a thin tan head. Flavor has a nice very mild bitter side to it and a fuller smooth sweet edge. Milky in a way. Seems to be some molasses on there as well. Feel is very smooth on the liquid and the lower carbonation is still nicely noticeable. I think this is a great stout. Very easy to drink and it carries a nice smooth and sweet edge. Pretty darn good I say! Makes me happy to see this at the bodega down the street (the smell of spilt and rotten milk's gotta go though).

Photo of oriolesfan4
3.13/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured from a 10 oz or so bottle. Pours a nice dark red almost black color with a tan creamy head. Smell is of sweet malts and alcohol. Taste is of the same, the alcohol is very pronounced in this beer. I mean, it's 7.5 ABV, but I've had things that were 11-12% that hid the alcohol better. Has a very rum like taste to it with the sugars and all. Basically its like a rum-beer, which is good if you're in the mood for that.. I'll pass on this in the future.

Photo of jwc215
3.23/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours almost pitch black with a large foamy tan head that settles to a lasting cover, leaving some lacing behind.

The smell is of roasted dark malt - caramel/toffee - with some smokiness.

The taste is of dark malt - chocolatey/toffeeish. Sweet apricot-like fruitiness is quite clear. Alcohol very noticeable. Lactose sweetness in the finish.

The body is light to medium. Sticky sweetness lingers.

This one started off well with the appearance and the nose, but is too sweet with an unusual fruitiness for me.

Photo of chinchill
3.34/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.25

284ml bottle with a BB date of 29 Dec. 2015 consumed at the Mahogany Beach Bar in Jamaica on 18 Dec. 2014.

Very dark brown; very good head and lacing.

Feel: very smooth; soft, medium carbonation.

Surprisingly hop forward nose.

O: OK but the aroma and flavor don't match the quality of the look and feel.

Photo of WesWes
3.65/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a deep, dark black color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is good. It has a sweet chocolate and roasted malt scent that is rich and creamy with some alcohol notes. The taste is decent. It has a thin, yet quite malty flavor that goes down easy and finishes warm and smooth. It is intensely sweet with loads of crystal malts along with a slight roasted feel. It has a pronounced alcohol taste that hits you up front then fades as it goes down. The mouthfeel is decent also. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is an interesting beer. I like sweet beers, but this takes it a little too far. It's an easy drinker even at 7.5% abv. . I didn't hate this beer, but I wouldn't buy it again.

Photo of stakem
3.65/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Re-reviewing from notes since my original review was lost when the site crashed. Beer was a gift from a local building's security guard Warren.

Labeled as an export stout, it seems to be a milk/sweet stout. Nose is huge in what I suspect to be lactose. It also has minor traces of coffee and hops. Taste is dominate by sweetness, followed with bits of coffee and chocolate character. Black/dark brown in color, tanned head doesn't offer much retension. As the beer warms, the alcohol becomes a bit more noticeable and dark fruit flavors start to come out.

Photo of BARFLYB
1.59/5  rDev -54.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1

less than 12oz bottle into a kitchen glass. I felt like taking a risk with this.

A- Bordering on black this hugely brown liquid produced a fading tan head that reached a 1/4 of an inch before fading into a patch.

S- Sweet slighty rotted milk, dragon's stout has some raw sugar and some chocolate. Getting some molasses as well, although very faint. A big bite of dried old fruit as well with plum. Cold cream as well.

T- Not my thing. I tried but this was not faring well for me. The ingredients did not mesh well with one another. Almost like the flavors are stale and past their prime while this is quite a fresh bottle. Old cream that sat out with a whole lot of old fruit.

M- Very creamy with a above medium mouthfeel. It's just not going down so smooth with the old fruit taste which is very prominent. A overload of cheap alcohol as well, yuck.

D- I tried and could not do it, done after three ounces. Could only take tiny sips. When i tried to take anymore my senses stopped me. Putrid. Sometimes it pays to live on the wild and adventurous side, but not in this case. Down the drain.

Photo of BlackHaddock
3.33/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

very surprised to see this in Shropshire, so got it straight away.

It had been in the garage waiting for me to open for about 3 months, I couldn't put off any longer and i have drank it tonight while watching the rain fall onto my garden.

Dark, very dark, with an amber tan head which stayed, but originally a lot thicker and tighter, towards the end it was whispy and thining.

Initialy the aroma was strong, but it faded quickly, chocolate and coffee mostly.

Sweet, slightly sticky, but not unpleasant, not the sort of stout I would climb over a nude women to get at, but if offered another, I would drink it.

Photo of Billolick
3.78/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Smallish bottle, pours black with a dark tan tiny bubble head with decent retention. Roasted malty nose. Roasted malts, chocolate malts prominant, also licorish, dark chocolate, burnt fruit and vanilla. Smooth mouthfeel, heavy body. This brew is semi sweet and also warming. Exerts a chalky dryness in the finish. Nice sweet stout , worth a try.

Photo of Georgiabeer
3.5/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours very dark brown, almost black with very little head. Smells sweet and milky, with caramel and cream and just a bit of dark fruit. Fairly simple, but well enough crafted. Tastes sweet, creamy and lightly fruity with a little ashiness on the finish. Smooth and simple, but actually quite delicious. I've always liked the sweet, strong stout tradition in the Carribean. It makes it a hell of a lot easier to get a tasty beer instead of your usual macro lager. This is my favorite Jamaican beer.

Photo of wl0307
3.49/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

BBE date March 06. This beer pours an opaque, nearly black hue with a fast-disappearing brownish head. On the nose, the mixed aroma has roated malts, black-plum's tartly sweetness, slightly sweet-chocolatey note, an implicit caramel flavour, against a mildly perfumy hoppy backdrop. The taste is sweetish, roasted-malty with relatively high alcoholic feel to it, followed by a tinge of sweet note of ripe black-fruits at the back. Pretty straight-forward roasted-malty and slightly toffeeish sweet in the aftertaste, with a very mild, refreshing bitter kick-back. The mouthfeel is quite soft but overall too sweet and the body is overly thin (at times even watery) for a Stout. Would need to think twice before buying and trying this beer again.

Photo of jdhilt
4.15/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a four-finger light brown head that fades quickly to a thin layer leaving some lace. Midnight black color. Molasses nose. Light carbonation and light-medium bodied. Flavor is sweet molasses but not cloying with a clean finish. Nice sweet stout but not a five like I thought it was last century. 284ml bottle $1.75 from Kappy's Fresh Pond Jamaica Plain, MA.

Photo of biegaman
3.38/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A sooty black with crimson infused, holding it up to the light concedes sharp, lucid streaks of colour. It also reveals the beer to be far from opaque, its transparency is unhampered and its complexion as crystal clear as a bright lager. Initially prominent, its khaki toned head has since rifted and is now divided into a series of black water surrounded archipelagos. Giant banners of lace hang proudly.

The aroma possesses a dessert quality sweetness in part to the immodest addition of cane sugar. It smells above all else like sugar, although granted, there are subtle notes of milk chocolate, molasses, coffee sweetener, black licorice, and just a touch of plum and grape. I wouldn't mind if the over-ripe fruit character was a little more prominent but I'm starting to like this just fine the way it is.

Thing is: I like my sugar with coffee and cream. To my disappointment, those faint impressions of molasses, debittered chocolate, caramel, and black licorice don't come forth any more in the taste. I also prefer it without the sting of alcohol; Dragon Stout breaths more fire than should be the case. I think the tooth-decaying sweetness compounds the intensity of what's otherwise a modest 7.5%.

I would imagine just a little more bitterness or roast could go a long way to extinguish that flame. Not to be overly repetitive but the sweetness is left unchecked. Nevertheless, this type of character is only befitting for the style and saving graces of anise star and candied cherries ensure the drinkability isn't too hindered. Like with the aroma, I was apprehensive at first, but the beer certainly deserves a passing grade.

Judges say to think of this style as either an amped-up sweet stout or a scaled-down Imperial stout. I don't get either of those from this particular example but I do sense a great likeness to a Baltic Porter. In appearance and strength, this shares as much resemblance to the stale coffee and debittered chocolate tasting lager-like dark beers of the Baltic as it does to anything else I've tried from the Caribbean.

I have my fair share of critiques of the Dragon Stout - the exaggerated sweetness, the unmasked alcohol - but I've always felt to really know a beer and truly experience it at its best you must try it fresh in its native land. Unless Desnoes & Geddes want to pay my way to Jamaica I'll have to believe this is just an average foreign stout; it's not something I see myself drinking again here in Canada.

Photo of liamt07
2.9/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Bottle from the LCBO, 330ml poured into a snifter. Bottled October 9, 2010.

Poured a viscous black, with a finger or so of reddish brown head which falls to a collar. Little retention. Nose is some milky, creamy chocolate, some light coffee and sweet coconut, albeit a lesser contribution than the other two. Taste is relatively uneventful, some chocolate with a lactic creaminess. Mild dark fruits linger in the background. Mouthfeel is a bit weird and chalky, with active carbonation that's a bit high in my eyes. Medium drinkability.

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Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
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