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Dragon Stout - Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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BA SCORE
79
okay

381 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 381
Reviews: 225
rAvg: 3.46
pDev: 17.63%
Wants: 11
Gots: 14 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Jamaica

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-30-2001)
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Photo of bonbini26
4/5  rDev +15.6%

bonbini26, Jan 10, 2012
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4/5  rDev +15.6%

KimenTshom, Jan 04, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev +1.2%

animal69, Jan 02, 2012
Photo of benbou17
3/5  rDev -13.3%

benbou17, Dec 29, 2011
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3.5/5  rDev +1.2%

stealth, Dec 20, 2011
Photo of erosier
4/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

L: Pours a nice black color with a medium sized and light bodied tan colored head that laces the glass nicely on the way down.
S: Smells of sweet roasted and toasted malts, a very sweet cane sugary smell to it that was pretty enticing.
T: Very sweet malt up front followed by a very sweet cane sugary taste to it, some chocolate, and then a hint of alcohol.
M: Smooth, rich, sweet, perfect amount of carbonation, medium bodied.
D: Pretty drinkable, this was a nice beer that had a lot of sweet flavors to it and a pretty decent abv. I liked it, I just wish the bottle was a full 12-16oz.

erosier, Dec 19, 2011
Photo of Beerandraiderfan
3.05/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Black and brown beer, thin tan head. Roasty aroma, a little bit of fusel alcohol, but otherwise just like your standard stout aroma.

Taste, bitter, roasty. Lacking a real semblance of chocolate flavor. Just tastes a lot like a substantial porter with a load of bitterness. Kinda gritty at times. Don't know where the sweetness is coming from, but it is downplayed in favor of the higher levels of bitterness. So weird, bitter, but not much in the way of hoppy flavor, sweet, but not much in the way of chocolate flavor.

The bitterness and the alcohol are too detectable and are considered flaws in this style. Perhaps a bigger malt presence would absorb these problems, or at least not make them as evident.

A decent option instead of Guinness, when you want something a little stronger and roastier (i.e. like a stout).

Beerandraiderfan, Dec 14, 2011
Photo of rab53
2.5/5  rDev -27.7%

rab53, Dec 01, 2011
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4/5  rDev +15.6%

kelvarnsen, Nov 30, 2011
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5/5  rDev +44.5%

cgise22, Nov 30, 2011
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5/5  rDev +44.5%

Rochefort10nh, Nov 28, 2011
Photo of sirdrinkwell
2.73/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: it's a stout, so it comes as no surprise as this brew pours a midnight black into my glass. 1/8 inch of creamy and quickly dissolving head.

Smell: underwhelming, a bit of malt and bit of milky sweetness.

Taste: very sweet, milky and a dryness that is vaguely chocolate.

M: the sweetness leaves a sticky coat on the palate and a candylike aftertaste. while not a dealbreaker it isn't the most pleasant.

O: chalk this one up on the "i tried it, now time to keep it moving" type of brew. nothing memorable here.

salud!

sirdrinkwell, Nov 28, 2011
Photo of Knapp85
3.8/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a deep brown color with a foamy tan head on top. The smell of the beer had some coffee notes to it with a light chocolate aroma as well. The taste of the beer had some brown sugar sweetness along with a roasted dry finish. The mouthfeel was thin, I felt it could have used a little more body. Overall this stout was interesting. I would try it again if the mood struck me.

Knapp85, Nov 27, 2011
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4/5  rDev +15.6%

mdillon86, Nov 26, 2011
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3/5  rDev -13.3%

deapokid, Nov 25, 2011
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4/5  rDev +15.6%

jmdrpi, Nov 23, 2011
Photo of NightINgale
3.85/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - This beer looks very attractive. Pours a very dark and opaque brown body with a fairly rich, caramel coloured head. Decent lacing, pretty good head retention.

S - Not a very intense or robust smell at first. Roasted chocolatey malts, maybe a faint hint of dark fruits and some toasted dark bread. As the beer warms up, I'm beginning to get some vanilla and more dark fruits.

T - If not served too cold, this beer really opens up and shines. Starts out very roasty and malty, then building up some milk chocolate and vanilla notes, leading into the finish. Hints of dark fruits (raisins, dates) and coffee. For a stout, this is smooth and not bitter. However, if you don't have a sweet tooth, you might find this beer a little too sweet.

M - Medium body to it; not too thick or chewy. Fairly high carbonation. As it warms up, this beer develops a smooth and creamy texture and acts soft and gentle on the pallate. It has some alcohol taste and definitely gives me a warming sensation.

O - This is my second time drinking this beer, and I can definitely say that it's a proper foreign stout! Rich and creamy, warming and delightful. I honestly wouldn't expect so much out of a Jamaican beer! Would make an excellent after-dinner drink!

NightINgale, Oct 21, 2011
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3.35/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

300 mL bottle from a six-pack picked up at the LCBO; best before January 2012. I have never heard much about this beyond that it existed, but I bought it on a whim because the idea of a Jamaican stout interested me.

Pours an essentially opaque black colour, topped with a finger of creamy tan head with poor retention. Soon there is only a thin collar left around the edge of the glass, with wisps of mocha-coloured foam on the surface. Malty aroma with notes of roasted grains and dark chocolate, coffee and ethanol.

Dark chocolate and roasted grain malts comprise most of the flavour, but there are some other things going on - a bit of coffee with cream, raisins, with dark rum and port wine notes. Not a lot of bitterness, except a bit of coffee in the finish. This is a strong-flavoured brew as one might expect from the ABV, but it manages to avoid cloying sweetness or serious booziness. Medium-bodied, and a bit syrupy. Light carbonation and a very smooth mouthfeel.

A decent sipper; a bit of roughness around the edges but overall nothing overtly awful (or great). The alcohol isn't especially well-hidden. The flavour is alright and honestly a bit more complex than I was expecting, but the booze raunches it up a bit, and combined with the sweetness the whole thing can be a bit much if you aren't in the mood for it.

[Updated July 4 2014]

A random single picked up at the LCBO, best before Oct 21 2015. I still have no strong feelings one way or another about this stout - it's a little boozy, and smells kind of gross, but it tastes just about the way I'd expect an export stout to. That is to say, sweet, roasty, and strong; but to be honest Sinha does the same thing much better IMO.

Final Grade: 3.35, a B-.

thehyperduck, Oct 02, 2011
Photo of hopsolutely
3.9/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A solid, pleasantly drinkable stout.

This pour is beautifully coffee coloured with limited carbonation, yet still maintains a pleasantly silky mouthfeel. Much molasses in the aroma, but a well balanced malt flavour profile with coffee highlights. The higher ABV is warming, but much less alcohol "burn" than I'd expected. In short, the finish is dry without any lingering bitterness.

Definitely the best Jamaican beer I have thus far enjoyed!

hopsolutely, Aug 26, 2011
Photo of CaptJackHarkness
4.47/5  rDev +29.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Nice creamy but, short lasting head. A deep rich chocolate malt taste Crisper aftertaste than most Stouts. Since this is a foreign export Stout, I'd be curious to know what the Jamaicans keep for themselves! ( A Guinness for example tastes much different in Dublin than in New York; I know from experience!)Surprisingly smooth for 15 Proof! (I'm old school)(In fact, I'll explain for those who don't know... Proof is an older measure of ethanol in a beverage. In the U.S. Proof = 2x the ABV of a liquid.)

CaptJackHarkness, Aug 20, 2011
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3.48/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A – Black with cola highlights. Medium/dark khaki head settles into a light dusting and a firm halo.

S – Booze soaked plums and raisins. Dark, tangy sweetness of molasses and teriyaki.

T - The profile is well pronounced, and impressively smooth, but a tad too sweet (even for the style imho). Opens with milk chocolate bars and dried plums with a drizzle of light booze. The middle brings out malted milk balls. Honey and burnt caramel in the finish.

M – Medium light body is soft and smooth. Low carbonation really hurts the beer; it could have helped to cut through some of the sweetness.

O – A nice example of the style balanced on the sweeter side of the spectrum.

vfgccp, Jul 31, 2011
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3.48/5  rDev +0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

9.6 oz bottle poured into a Sierra Nevada imperial pint.
7.5% ABV, 13L10 5 on the neck. Ok.

Thanks to Beerwolf77 for the bottle from his stout's of the month deal.

A - Pitch black, the pint looks foreboding and is filled with dense tan foam. Effervescent, it doesn't last all that long but leaves good lace behind.

S - Grainy and raw in aroma, the acridly burnt malts give notes of dry cocoa but little depth beyond that. The crumbly dirt and minerally finish don't do it any favors.

T - Roasted black malt with coffee and cocoa notes overshadows the earthy soil thing going on. The finish is more crisp and clean that one might expect.

M - Creamy and full-bodied, this stout is somewhat dry and mildly acrid bitter but finishes surprisingly clean.

O - Not too bad at all, it's a fairly drinkable higher ABV stout that's incredibly roasted and earthy in nature.

BeerFMAndy, Jul 09, 2011
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3.1/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

300 mL bottle, poured into a Duvel tulip at cellar temperature.
Best before date: July 2012

Appearance- Pours a nice black colour and pretty much completely opaque, average pour yielded a fluffy two fingers of tan mocha coloured head that slowly dissipates to a nice thick ring with a nice bubbly top that sticks around right till the end.

Smell- The nose is a little below average for a stout but the usual smells are hidden in there somewhere. You do get that rich roasted malt smell mixed with a bit of dark chocolate and slight hint of coffee thrown in there, and I do also detect a slight hint of alcohol as well although it is not an overly high ABV for the style.

Taste- Interesting tastes but not because there is a whole lot going on in this one, it is quite the contrary. I am trying to put a finger on the tastes here but there just is not a whole lot going on here. I do get a nice roasted malt aftertaste though and I can also taste some dark fruity flavours mixed with a hint of dark chocolate and an even slighter hint of coffee.

Mouthfeel- For a stout it is more on the light-medium bodied end of the scale, more watery than it is smooth and creamy and it does have a higher level of carbonation also for a stout.

Overall- Smell is lacking, and the taste is more than lacking as well not to mention the watered down mouth feel. This is just not a stout for me in any way shape or form. Probably would not get this one again and definitely would not go anywhere out of my way to acquire it, I mean if I’m ever in Jamaica I would drink it again over the other adjunct garbage that is probably served there but this one is just not for me with so many other great choices around.

Roke87, May 23, 2011
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3.05/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours pitch black with 1.5 fingers worth of creamy mocha head. Settles to a thin cap and left a lot of lacing.

S: The smell is pretty weak. There’s some roasted malt with a little bit of chocolate.

T: The taste is lacking as well. Faint roasted malt and a little chocolate. Finishes with an alcohol taste.

M: Medium to high carbonation with a medium body.

O: This didn’t seem like a stout to me. Tasted more like a dark ale. It wasn’t bad but I probably won’t buy it again.

marty21, May 04, 2011
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3.45/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz Bottle

Appearance - The beer pours an opaque black/brown colour with a large frothy light brown coloured head. I can't see much carbonation due the darkness of the beer and there is some fair lacing on the sides of the glass. The head lasted for 5 minutes before it began to dissipate.

Smell - chocolate, malts, grains, raisins, smoke

Taste & Mouth - The beer has an above average amount of carbonation and most of the taste consists of chocolate, breads/grains and malts. There is also a burnt flavour that causes the beer to have a smoky taste. The beer finishes with a chocolate and dark fruit malty aftertaste.

Overall – I found the levels of carbonation a little too high and that the beer was more like a dubbel than a stout. The alcohol was well hidden and it was fairly light on the palette. I’m happy I gave this one a try.

spinrsx, Apr 26, 2011
Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
79 out of 100 based on 381 ratings.