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Dragon Stout - Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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BA SCORE
79
okay

378 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 378
Reviews: 225
rAvg: 3.46
pDev: 17.63%
Wants: 11
Gots: 12 | FT: 0
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Jamaica

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-30-2001)
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Photo of CuriousMonk
3.4/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz bottle into a sampler glass at a beer festival. From notes: Pours a clear dark brown color with a medium tan head. Decent head retention and lacing. Aroma of sweet dark malty notes, sweet coffee and a faint roastiness. The taste is very sweet and almost sugary, with notes of coffee and faint roasty notes. Very faint hops and nearly no bitterness at all. Sweet, almost to the point of being cloying. Medium bodied.

CuriousMonk, Apr 08, 2011
Photo of peensteen
3.55/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Black, deep ruby highlights in the light, light tan/off white head. Smell is malty, lactic notes, some coffee and baking chocolate and alcohol notes throughout. Taste is Roasted malt, faint alcohol, sweet milky notes, cocoa like notes and a bittersweet finish. Good feel and slightly high carbonation that works well here, full body and creamy at points. Drinks well, maybe a bit too sweet for me but would have one of these now and again though.

peensteen, Apr 04, 2011
Photo of clr231
3.15/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Very dark, pours with small head that vanishes quickly. Roasted malt is dominant with coffee and chocolate tones. Little carbonation and light mouthfeel. Flavor is nice, maybe too sweet for my tastes but a decent milk stout. The high alcohol content (7.5%) would make me come back to try it again.

clr231, Apr 01, 2011
Photo of kjyost
2.48/5  rDev -28.3%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle dated BB March 12, no year? Poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours with no head? Dark, though not opaque. Expecting way more for a 7.5%stout
S: Muted aroma. Some sweetness on the nose, though distinctly of corn.
T: Is this a stout? Really? Corn and a bit of earthy bitter are the dominant flavours. No real roasted grain character either. I really let it warm up to see if new character would develop. Nada.
M: Thin. Not enjoyable.
O: Never again. Not a stout, and barely a dark ale.

kjyost, Mar 28, 2011
Photo of Wattsox
3.88/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

284ml bottle, consumed Mar 2011, BBE Mar 2012.

A - Black bodied with ruby highlights, more like a Porter body than a full Stout. Loose-bubbled mocha head that dissipates fairly quickly, leaving very little head or lacing.

S - Mild aroma of chocolate and coffee, hint of bitterness in the nose.

T - A lot sweeter than I would normally expect of a Stout. Chocolate takes the lead, quite mild in the middle and finishes sweet with chocolate and coffee notes and some bitterness, with a little alcohol in the background.

M - Smooth, medium bodied, light carbonation.

O - Very drinkable, though that 7.5% ABV could get away on you if you weren't careful! ;)

Wattsox, Mar 16, 2011
Photo of SisuPride
4.13/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I recieved this bottle in a mix dark beer gift box..

A - The black color of this beer is how I like a beer to look. Once you go black you will never go back.

T - Good blend of chocolate/cinnamon flavor - not over powering.

M - Average - not going to wow you when it hits your tongue - kind of like a good friend you have always known is visiting.

D - Overall, a tasty stout. I'm surprised a stout this good is Jamaican - I guess it is my ignorance that thinks of Red Stripe and Ginger Beer when thinking of Jamaican Beers.

SisuPride, Mar 12, 2011
Photo of ZorPrime
2.42/5  rDev -30.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Thanks to liamt07 for sending me this one.

Black color beer. Quite dark too. Brown foamy head. Damn, the smell isn't good at all... surely not inviting... more strange but not in a good way. I get some chocolate and licorice with something else that make the smell bad. Taste is so light, it is sad. Some chocolate. No bitterness. This beer needs some work. Feels like water in the mouth.

ZorPrime, Mar 12, 2011
Photo of washburnkid
1.9/5  rDev -45.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Picked this out purely from the look of the label. I've never seen this beer before. And quite frankly, I don't care if I never see it again.

A: Good amount of tan head settling over a dark brew with mahogany edges. Minor retention and no lacing.

S: Aromas are faint. A few heavy breaths in hint at roasty chocolate malt characteristics. A little berry punch in there too.

T/M: Very very fruity, sweet and syrupy. Almost overwhelming. It takes a moment before I can extract a bitter background to the sugary sweetness. Overripe berries lightly dipped in milk chocolate. Mouthfeel is medium, with that syrup quality settling the sweet flavors all over my palate. Fizzy, and with some warmth more sugar comes out ... and now this beer is like an overly sweetened soda, and I can no longer drink it.

D: Two to four good sips and I've had enough of this one. This beer needs some lovin' from humulus lupulus. ie...stouts are best when balanced.

washburnkid, Mar 07, 2011
Photo of andrenaline
3.9/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This was supposed to be stocked on our resort, but they were "mysteriously" always out of stock. Managed to score a bottle in the city.

A - Pours pitch black with a finger of mocha head, solid retention which settles to some islands and leaves some sporadic sticky lacing.

S - Sweet milk chocolate, though some bitter coffee and espresso come through on the finish. Solid scent and a bit stronger than I was expecting.

T - Surprisingly tasty and full flavoured. The sweet chocolate malts come through nicely with a bit of a cinnamon toast flavour also present. The bitter espresso is dominant on the finish but mellows to chocolate and marshmallows.

M - A bit thin, and could use a little lift. If it were a bit creamier with a bit more carbonation it would've been perfect.

D - Overall, a tasty stout and a pleasant surprise. I'm glad I went out of my way to find a bottle locally and it is definitely worthy to any stout fan. Higher ABV is nicely hidden, and although not the most thirst quenching beer in the Caribbean, and a tad thin, it is still a full flavoured stout worthy of sourcing out.

andrenaline, Mar 04, 2011
Photo of THECPJ
3.1/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed from notes

Appearance: opaque black with a 1 finger mocha head that dissipates quickly

Smell: roasted malts, coffee, chocholate, and dark fruits (maybe figs/raisins)

Taste: sweet, chocolate and coffee, hints of dark fruits, maybe molasses

Mouthfeel: mild carbonation, sticky on the tongue, but thinner than expected

Drinkability: not a bad option, especially for after dinner imbibing

Cheers!
The CPJ

THECPJ, Mar 04, 2011
Photo of negroobserver
3.05/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

9.6oz bottle - 7.5% ABV

APPEARANCE/COLOR: Very rich dark color. I was drinking this in poor lighting, so decided to get a better look with a flashlight. Using a 9 bulb led flashlight, I was only able to get very little light to appear at the opposite end. The LED bulbs appeared to be like red fish eggs in the glass. Wish I could see this in daylight, because the color must have a strong reddish tone.

SMELL: Chocolate, Oats, Barley, Earthy and Woddy notes.

TASTE: The chocolatey notes are definitely at the front here. There's not much going on in the middle. The woody/chocolatey notes linger for a bit and finish with a mild bitterness.

MOUTHFEEL: Good light to medium Carbonation. The texture is not too rich or dense. It's pretty light compared to the standard that Guiness has established.

DRINKABILITY: I'm not very fond of Stouts. Having said that I could probably drink a few of these, but the strong chocolate and woody notes would get overbearing in the process.

OVERALL: B-/B

negroobserver, Feb 02, 2011
Photo of bventure
3.7/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Presentation: 284ml brown bottle. BBE Dec 2011

Appearance: Virtually black, almost opaque. Reddish highlights if swirled. 1 finger coffee-brown head with some large bubbles, dissipates quickly.

Smell: Roasted malt, coffee, Slight (but not unpleasant) mustiness..

Taste: Sweetish, chocolate, hint of bitterenss in finish. Thought I caught a hint of something herby and fragrant - thyme?

Mouthfeel: Medium to full bodied, smooth. Just the right amount of carbonation, a light tingle on the tongue.

Drinkability: Pleasant if undemanding, alcoholic strength not obvious. Would definitely drink this again.

bventure, Jan 31, 2011
Photo of biglite351
3.08/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - a good bit of red around the edges. Tall creamy tan head.

S - mild roasted malts, nut very light.

T - roasted malts, mild chocolate and a touch of fruit.

M - medium coating with just a touch of tingle on the sides of the tongue.

D - easily drinkable but I would probably go for something with a stronger flavor.

biglite351, Jan 29, 2011
Photo of liamt07
2.9/5  rDev -16.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Bottle from the LCBO, 330ml poured into a snifter. Bottled October 9, 2010.

Poured a viscous black, with a finger or so of reddish brown head which falls to a collar. Little retention. Nose is some milky, creamy chocolate, some light coffee and sweet coconut, albeit a lesser contribution than the other two. Taste is relatively uneventful, some chocolate with a lactic creaminess. Mild dark fruits linger in the background. Mouthfeel is a bit weird and chalky, with active carbonation that's a bit high in my eyes. Medium drinkability.

liamt07, Jan 21, 2011
Photo of JohnnyBarman
3.53/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Just one of those brews that's been at the LCBO for as long as I can remember, but I've yet to take a stab at it. Come to think of it, neither have any of my friends. Good thing? Bad thing? We'll soon see. Picked up a six pack of 300ml bottles.

Poured into a nonic. A soupy black concoction, that produces a fairly decent light tan head that survives as thin surface layer with a thick ring. Flecks of lacing here and there. Ruby when held to the light. Actually doesn't look half-bad.

Nose is chocolate, sugar, figs and raisins, perhaps a bit of alcohol and cream as well. Just realized that the bottle packs a 7.5% wallop. Oy...

A sweet stout, with rum/molasses, mild roasted malt and milk chocolate. When I was new on the beer drinking scene, this was what I had assumed a 'milk stout' would taste like - sweet and chocolatey, with a mild cream flavor. Almost a dessert in and of itself.

Mouthfeel is chewy, thick and creamy. Mild carbonation, goes down a bit like a root beer float: slightly flat, but creamy. Went down incredibly fast.

You win this round, Jamaica. Clearly I wasn't expecting such a sweet, drinkable stout, no less from the brewers that put forward Red Stripe, a passable but boring pale lager. Too sweet for everyday or session drinking, but if you're in the mood for something sweet to sip after dinner or to serve with dessert (and is cheap and regularly available), we've found your man. Despite the treatening name, this Dragon doesn't pose much of a threat - it's pretty tame, and just wants to like you and take you on cool adventures. Why not let it?

JohnnyBarman, Jan 11, 2011
Photo of ritzkiss
2.85/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

pours a dark cola brown with a finger of tan head which dies down to a few patches. Nose is an uninspiring mix of roasted malts, musty coffee and a hint of bakers chocolate. Taste follows suit with a healthy dose of dark fruits and a weird cola taste, chemical sugar sweetness, odd mineral dryness in the finish. Way too fizzy, too thin. I can imagine this is a welcome relief from all the light lagers in Jamaica but here there are too many other far superior beers to visit this one again.

ritzkiss, Nov 10, 2010
Photo of cpolking
3.43/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours dark black with a half inch of head that leaves lacing down the glass. The aroma is much lighter than I expected, sweet and aromatic. The flavor is also lighter than I would expect from a stout. It manages to be light and sweet at the same time, with just a hint of dark roasted malt, coffee and chocolate in the background. I would never guess from aroma and taste that this was 7.5% alcohol. I guess this is a good stout for a warm clime like Jamaica.

cpolking, Nov 04, 2010
Photo of jsprain1
3.6/5  rDev +4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A- Pours an almost solid black with a thin khaki head that dissapates into a ring.
S- smell is of roasted malt, some earthy and faint smoky qualities.
T- Dark malt, mostly chocolate. Plenty sweet, and a hint of what I can best describe as wood/sawdust.
M- A bit thin bodied. rather sticky from sweetness.
D- This was an interesting go, and it's probably worth a try, but it won't be a regular purchase.

jsprain1, Oct 30, 2010
Photo of bladesgolf
3.85/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I had this beer in Belize while on vacation, and was surprised to find it here in Mass. Clearly not a highly rated beer, but I was surprised by the wide range of reviews. For what it is, a Jamacian Stout, it is very sweet and drinkable. There is a nice alcohol finish mixed with a hint of malts. It certainly isn't a go to beer, but when compare to the beers available in Belize, its not a bad choice.

bladesgolf, Oct 29, 2010
Photo of tbeckett
2.25/5  rDev -35%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A - Black, completely opaque. Started with a one finger khaki head but faded fast to a flimy cap.

S - Deep chocolate aroma with some booze.

T - Same as the aroma. Very disapointing for the abv, I was expecting more. I get some cola sweetness but not enough roasted malts. Some booze is there in the finish too.

M - Light to medium bodied, a letdown again.

D - I don't want to have anything to do with this ever again. I'll have a root beer if I want flavours like this. What a let down. I expected a rich stout, I got an overly sweet, boozy drink.

tbeckett, Oct 23, 2010
Photo of Tilley4
2.95/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Picked up a single of this new addition to my area recently and popped it for breakfast this am...

Not quite black in the glass with a very small head... Not very viscous either....

Typical roasted malt aromas with hints of booze... Maybe a little cocoa but nothing overwhelming...

Faint roasted malts mix with some alcohol heat and a strange sweetness.. This one seems a bit rough around the edges to me... Wish the cocoa aspects would have been a little more prevalent...

Glad I tried this one but not something I will be revisiting unless I find it on tap or something...

Tilley4, Oct 14, 2010
Photo of StephenRich
3.23/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Certain beer styles have their own innate heritage that seems to follow them around everywhere. There are specific countries that are best known for this style or that. So who makes the rich and lush Dragon Stout... Jamaica? Yes, the 7.5%, robust and rich stout called Dragon Stout comes from the heat of the island. This has always been a peculiar stout to me. Its flavor is massively sweet showing barleywine like power, but it is not overly roasty or dry. In fact, it is very sugary showing a deep and lush caramel and brown sugar backbone. The bitterness is there to mellow only a touch and add some balance, but it shows very little hop aroma of flavor.

The Dragon Stout then fits a very specific place in the world of stouts, and I would go so far as to classify it specifically as a sweet stout (although I don't believe it is made with lactose as a typical sweet stout is). This is not a refreshingly dry stout, nor is it full of roast, chocolate, or coffee flavors. What it is filled with is big malt sensations. Huge caramel and molasses pours out of this beer in a thick and chewy wave. Look for it with vanilla ice cream.

The Dragon Stout comes in a 300ml bottle usually sold in 6 packs and is available at the LCBO, and widely now across North America. At 7.5% it is a fairly strong stout, but really fits right in between standard Stouts and Imperial Stouts. Its big rich flavors follow a smooth boozy character, making it a unique, and unmistakable beer.

I opened the Dragon Stout cool around 12C (54F) and poured it into a stemmed tulip glass. The pour was smooth and oily gentle gliding into the glass. It built up a densely black beer with rich garnet shades and hints of chocolate brown peering in the edges. The foam created was a good 2 to 3 inches high off the beer and also showed a densely packed array of tight carbonation. It rested at ease with a nice creamy cap showing me an almond brown color to contrast the beers blackness. Overall it is very pretty and hints at the beers power and depth.

The nose is sweet and rich billowing at you with deep roasted malts. Big rushes of caramel and brown sugar perfume into your nose, and then hints of leather, licorice, booze, toffee, and molasses. A touch of chocolate is soft in the boozy rich body, but mostly sugary sweet malt sensations play the biggest role here. There are notes of sweet fruit, and a hint of bitter, but once again, think lightly burnt brown sugar in its most desert-like form.

Sipping the Dragon Stout rather than gulping it is a good idea. It is big and rich from head to toe. The first sip reveals all the potency of candied prunes, plums, figs, cherries and freshly bubbling caramel. Big black flavors of malt evolve from the depths of the beer bringing forth crushing flavors of licorice, molasses, charr and tobacco. Sugar is heavy and syrupy the whole time and sort of engulf your palate.

The mouthfeel is thick and creamy, but also somewhat sticky. It helps bring big warm waves of toffee candies into your senses and shows its way to a boozy warmth which is now present the whole time. Very little bitter is there to balance this beer. Touches of chocolate and roast ad a subtle hint of bitterness, but more actuall hops would be needed here.

The finish is thick and sweet like an ice cream sunday. That really is where this beer belongs, with refreshing deserts to cool it down. It is richly packed with flavor, and thus vanilla ice cream would do it well. With better balance and a more elegant array of flavors this stout would be world class. But it is just too over the top for me to enjoy more than once a year or so. Nonetheless, it is worth a try, and is excellent to work into deserts when baking.

Pics at: http://definitionale.com/2010/10/12/tasting-the-dragon-stout/

StephenRich, Oct 13, 2010
Photo of u2carew
4.03/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

9.6oz bottle. Brought to me by a buddy.
A) Pours with a two finger head tan in color. Opaque. Tight and sticky lacing.
S) Bready. Hints of alcohol, roasted grain and coffee.
T) Sweet malty base, yet still robust in flavors. Chocolate. Smoky. Alcohol in the finish.
M) Smooth. Full body. Alcohol effervescence.
D) A delicious stout. I'd definitely have another one.

u2carew, Oct 12, 2010
Photo of jampics2
4.03/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

One of several 12oz bottles enjoyed on my Honeymoon in Montego Bay. Poured into a goblet with a smile by Garth, ya mon, respekt! This is BY FAR the best beer available in Jah Make Ya!

This beer is black with some brown, mahogany, and brilliant red highlights. The tan head is nice and sticks around for a while. It also leaves decent lace.

The aroma is a tale of two levels of scent. You have a nice roasted malt characteristic, lending impressions of chocolate and coffee. There's also a level of sweetness that comes across like sugarcane. Some caramel, molasses, and toffee are also apparent.

The taste is wonderful for a foreign export stout, and picks up where the scents left off. A heafty dose of caramel and sugarcane is joined my roasty chocolate and coffee, with just a touch of molasses as well. It's not the most flavorful stout I've ever had, but it does produce a nice flavor albeit a bit sweet. Not even in the same camp as Guinness or the excellent American take on the style by Left Hand called Fade to Black. But for a stout that is primarily drank on the island of Jamaica, you need to respect how clean and refreshing this is.

The mouthfeel is a bit thin, but the carbonation is perfect to make the beer just a bit lively. There's a nice, sweet aftertaste with minimal hops or lingering roast. I can't wait to get back to Montego Bay again to have some Dragon. Just a fantastic beer, the taste of paradise for me.

jampics2, Oct 11, 2010
Photo of r0nyn
4/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into my trusty Troegs pint glass.

A vigorous pour yields a nice thick dark tan head that quickly dissipates, leaving a lot of sticky lacing. The brew itself is very dark, only letting light through once you hold it up to a bright source. A good looking stout by any standard. Smell is... wow. Definitely full of dark chocolate and malts. Probably one of the most chocolatey smelling beers I've ever sampled.

Lots of maltiness in the initial sip, followed by the sweet, creamy chocolate flavoring from the nose. Just a hint of bitterness, along with some mild astringency. It finishes off with a light aftertaste that's more malts and sweet chocolate. Can't really detect the ABV at all. Surprisingly delicious. The mouthfeel is pretty chewy and coats the tongue well with a nice creamy quality.

Drinkability is pretty damn good. A sweet, pleasing taste coupled with a great smell and a creamy feel make this brew eminently quaffable. Very well done and something I will keep a lookout for in the future.

r0nyn, Sep 30, 2010
Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
79 out of 100 based on 378 ratings.