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Dragon Stout - Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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BA SCORE
80
good

398 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 398
Reviews: 225
rAvg: 3.48
pDev: 17.53%
Wants: 11
Gots: 16 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Jamaica

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-30-2001)
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Photo of rab53
2.5/5  rDev -28.2%

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4/5  rDev +14.9%

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5/5  rDev +43.7%

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5/5  rDev +43.7%

Photo of sirdrinkwell
2.73/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: it's a stout, so it comes as no surprise as this brew pours a midnight black into my glass. 1/8 inch of creamy and quickly dissolving head.

Smell: underwhelming, a bit of malt and bit of milky sweetness.

Taste: very sweet, milky and a dryness that is vaguely chocolate.

M: the sweetness leaves a sticky coat on the palate and a candylike aftertaste. while not a dealbreaker it isn't the most pleasant.

O: chalk this one up on the "i tried it, now time to keep it moving" type of brew. nothing memorable here.

salud!

Photo of Knapp85
3.8/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a deep brown color with a foamy tan head on top. The smell of the beer had some coffee notes to it with a light chocolate aroma as well. The taste of the beer had some brown sugar sweetness along with a roasted dry finish. The mouthfeel was thin, I felt it could have used a little more body. Overall this stout was interesting. I would try it again if the mood struck me.

Photo of mdillon86
4/5  rDev +14.9%

Photo of deapokid
3/5  rDev -13.8%

Photo of jmdrpi
4/5  rDev +14.9%

Photo of NightINgale
3.85/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - This beer looks very attractive. Pours a very dark and opaque brown body with a fairly rich, caramel coloured head. Decent lacing, pretty good head retention.

S - Not a very intense or robust smell at first. Roasted chocolatey malts, maybe a faint hint of dark fruits and some toasted dark bread. As the beer warms up, I'm beginning to get some vanilla and more dark fruits.

T - If not served too cold, this beer really opens up and shines. Starts out very roasty and malty, then building up some milk chocolate and vanilla notes, leading into the finish. Hints of dark fruits (raisins, dates) and coffee. For a stout, this is smooth and not bitter. However, if you don't have a sweet tooth, you might find this beer a little too sweet.

M - Medium body to it; not too thick or chewy. Fairly high carbonation. As it warms up, this beer develops a smooth and creamy texture and acts soft and gentle on the pallate. It has some alcohol taste and definitely gives me a warming sensation.

O - This is my second time drinking this beer, and I can definitely say that it's a proper foreign stout! Rich and creamy, warming and delightful. I honestly wouldn't expect so much out of a Jamaican beer! Would make an excellent after-dinner drink!

Photo of thehyperduck
3.35/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

300 mL bottle from a six-pack picked up at the LCBO; best before January 2012. I have never heard much about this beyond that it existed, but I bought it on a whim because the idea of a Jamaican stout interested me.

Pours an essentially opaque black colour, topped with a finger of creamy tan head with poor retention. Soon there is only a thin collar left around the edge of the glass, with wisps of mocha-coloured foam on the surface. Malty aroma with notes of roasted grains and dark chocolate, coffee and ethanol.

Dark chocolate and roasted grain malts comprise most of the flavour, but there are some other things going on - a bit of coffee with cream, raisins, with dark rum and port wine notes. Not a lot of bitterness, except a bit of coffee in the finish. This is a strong-flavoured brew as one might expect from the ABV, but it manages to avoid cloying sweetness or serious booziness. Medium-bodied, and a bit syrupy. Light carbonation and a very smooth mouthfeel.

A decent sipper; a bit of roughness around the edges but overall nothing overtly awful (or great). The alcohol isn't especially well-hidden. The flavour is alright and honestly a bit more complex than I was expecting, but the booze raunches it up a bit, and combined with the sweetness the whole thing can be a bit much if you aren't in the mood for it.

[Updated July 4 2014]

A random single picked up at the LCBO, best before Oct 21 2015. I still have no strong feelings one way or another about this stout - it's a little boozy, and smells kind of gross, but it tastes just about the way I'd expect an export stout to. That is to say, sweet, roasty, and strong; but to be honest Sinha does the same thing much better IMO.

Final Grade: 3.35, a B-.

Photo of hopsolutely
3.9/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A solid, pleasantly drinkable stout.

This pour is beautifully coffee coloured with limited carbonation, yet still maintains a pleasantly silky mouthfeel. Much molasses in the aroma, but a well balanced malt flavour profile with coffee highlights. The higher ABV is warming, but much less alcohol "burn" than I'd expected. In short, the finish is dry without any lingering bitterness.

Definitely the best Jamaican beer I have thus far enjoyed!

Photo of CaptJackHarkness
4.47/5  rDev +28.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Nice creamy but, short lasting head. A deep rich chocolate malt taste Crisper aftertaste than most Stouts. Since this is a foreign export Stout, I'd be curious to know what the Jamaicans keep for themselves! ( A Guinness for example tastes much different in Dublin than in New York; I know from experience!)Surprisingly smooth for 15 Proof! (I'm old school)(In fact, I'll explain for those who don't know... Proof is an older measure of ethanol in a beverage. In the U.S. Proof = 2x the ABV of a liquid.)

Photo of vfgccp
3.48/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A – Black with cola highlights. Medium/dark khaki head settles into a light dusting and a firm halo.

S – Booze soaked plums and raisins. Dark, tangy sweetness of molasses and teriyaki.

T - The profile is well pronounced, and impressively smooth, but a tad too sweet (even for the style imho). Opens with milk chocolate bars and dried plums with a drizzle of light booze. The middle brings out malted milk balls. Honey and burnt caramel in the finish.

M – Medium light body is soft and smooth. Low carbonation really hurts the beer; it could have helped to cut through some of the sweetness.

O – A nice example of the style balanced on the sweeter side of the spectrum.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.48/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

9.6 oz bottle poured into a Sierra Nevada imperial pint.
7.5% ABV, 13L10 5 on the neck. Ok.

Thanks to Beerwolf77 for the bottle from his stout's of the month deal.

A - Pitch black, the pint looks foreboding and is filled with dense tan foam. Effervescent, it doesn't last all that long but leaves good lace behind.

S - Grainy and raw in aroma, the acridly burnt malts give notes of dry cocoa but little depth beyond that. The crumbly dirt and minerally finish don't do it any favors.

T - Roasted black malt with coffee and cocoa notes overshadows the earthy soil thing going on. The finish is more crisp and clean that one might expect.

M - Creamy and full-bodied, this stout is somewhat dry and mildly acrid bitter but finishes surprisingly clean.

O - Not too bad at all, it's a fairly drinkable higher ABV stout that's incredibly roasted and earthy in nature.

Photo of Roke87
3.1/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

300 mL bottle, poured into a Duvel tulip at cellar temperature.
Best before date: July 2012

Appearance- Pours a nice black colour and pretty much completely opaque, average pour yielded a fluffy two fingers of tan mocha coloured head that slowly dissipates to a nice thick ring with a nice bubbly top that sticks around right till the end.

Smell- The nose is a little below average for a stout but the usual smells are hidden in there somewhere. You do get that rich roasted malt smell mixed with a bit of dark chocolate and slight hint of coffee thrown in there, and I do also detect a slight hint of alcohol as well although it is not an overly high ABV for the style.

Taste- Interesting tastes but not because there is a whole lot going on in this one, it is quite the contrary. I am trying to put a finger on the tastes here but there just is not a whole lot going on here. I do get a nice roasted malt aftertaste though and I can also taste some dark fruity flavours mixed with a hint of dark chocolate and an even slighter hint of coffee.

Mouthfeel- For a stout it is more on the light-medium bodied end of the scale, more watery than it is smooth and creamy and it does have a higher level of carbonation also for a stout.

Overall- Smell is lacking, and the taste is more than lacking as well not to mention the watered down mouth feel. This is just not a stout for me in any way shape or form. Probably would not get this one again and definitely would not go anywhere out of my way to acquire it, I mean if I’m ever in Jamaica I would drink it again over the other adjunct garbage that is probably served there but this one is just not for me with so many other great choices around.

Photo of marty21
3.05/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours pitch black with 1.5 fingers worth of creamy mocha head. Settles to a thin cap and left a lot of lacing.

S: The smell is pretty weak. There’s some roasted malt with a little bit of chocolate.

T: The taste is lacking as well. Faint roasted malt and a little chocolate. Finishes with an alcohol taste.

M: Medium to high carbonation with a medium body.

O: This didn’t seem like a stout to me. Tasted more like a dark ale. It wasn’t bad but I probably won’t buy it again.

Photo of spinrsx
3.45/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz Bottle

Appearance - The beer pours an opaque black/brown colour with a large frothy light brown coloured head. I can't see much carbonation due the darkness of the beer and there is some fair lacing on the sides of the glass. The head lasted for 5 minutes before it began to dissipate.

Smell - chocolate, malts, grains, raisins, smoke

Taste & Mouth - The beer has an above average amount of carbonation and most of the taste consists of chocolate, breads/grains and malts. There is also a burnt flavour that causes the beer to have a smoky taste. The beer finishes with a chocolate and dark fruit malty aftertaste.

Overall – I found the levels of carbonation a little too high and that the beer was more like a dubbel than a stout. The alcohol was well hidden and it was fairly light on the palette. I’m happy I gave this one a try.

Photo of jgirotto
4.35/5  rDev +25%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dark rich color but a smell that is surprisingly sweet.

Taste is smooth and the sugar comes through here. Light on carbonation. I have served this almost as a desert, well certainly with desert (chocolate / cherry). This is almost a port replacement.

Photo of BasementBer
3.4/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Glad to see a dark from the Caribbean that is this pleasing on the palate, unlike most lite beach beers from the region.

A: A deep dark opaque brown. Lacing all around left by the cappuccino brown head made of large bubbles.

S: A terrible copper pennies smell. The roasted malt is there but the metallic smell is gag worthy, quite off putting.

T: Chocolaty. Has a nice roasted quality and a sweet brown sugar or molasses middle with chocolate at the rear. By far the best quality of this carribean dark.

M: Has a boozy finish on the tongue which is sensible due to the 7.5abv. Carbonation lasts making the froth coat the mouth.

D: Id go back to this beer after another as long as they get that copper taste out. Could have been a bad batch after not cleaning the lines or using that metal spoon. Also the Red Stripe style of a small bottle makes this easy to go back to back on.

Photo of AEK
4.35/5  rDev +25%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330ml brown bottle poured into a Delirium Tremens snifter.

A. Dark brown beer topped by a pillowy, bubbly yellow-brown mustard coloured head.

S. Black malt, slight coffee notes, pralines, hints of liquorice, caramelised sugar.

T. Coffee, jammy taste, juicy figs. Leaves a nice smoky and slightly bitter finish.

M. Medium.

D. A thoroughly enjoyable Caribbean stout. I particularly enjoyed the finish.

Photo of CuriousMonk
3.4/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz bottle into a sampler glass at a beer festival. From notes: Pours a clear dark brown color with a medium tan head. Decent head retention and lacing. Aroma of sweet dark malty notes, sweet coffee and a faint roastiness. The taste is very sweet and almost sugary, with notes of coffee and faint roasty notes. Very faint hops and nearly no bitterness at all. Sweet, almost to the point of being cloying. Medium bodied.

Photo of peensteen
3.55/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Black, deep ruby highlights in the light, light tan/off white head. Smell is malty, lactic notes, some coffee and baking chocolate and alcohol notes throughout. Taste is Roasted malt, faint alcohol, sweet milky notes, cocoa like notes and a bittersweet finish. Good feel and slightly high carbonation that works well here, full body and creamy at points. Drinks well, maybe a bit too sweet for me but would have one of these now and again though.

Photo of clr231
3.15/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Very dark, pours with small head that vanishes quickly. Roasted malt is dominant with coffee and chocolate tones. Little carbonation and light mouthfeel. Flavor is nice, maybe too sweet for my tastes but a decent milk stout. The high alcohol content (7.5%) would make me come back to try it again.

Photo of kjyost
2.48/5  rDev -28.7%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle dated BB March 12, no year? Poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours with no head? Dark, though not opaque. Expecting way more for a 7.5%stout
S: Muted aroma. Some sweetness on the nose, though distinctly of corn.
T: Is this a stout? Really? Corn and a bit of earthy bitter are the dominant flavours. No real roasted grain character either. I really let it warm up to see if new character would develop. Nada.
M: Thin. Not enjoyable.
O: Never again. Not a stout, and barely a dark ale.

Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
80 out of 100 based on 398 ratings.