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Dragon Stout - Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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BA SCORE
80
good

390 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 390
Reviews: 225
rAvg: 3.47
pDev: 17.58%
Wants: 11
Gots: 15 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Jamaica

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-30-2001)
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4/5  rDev +15.3%

jmdrpi, Nov 23, 2011
Photo of NightINgale
3.85/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - This beer looks very attractive. Pours a very dark and opaque brown body with a fairly rich, caramel coloured head. Decent lacing, pretty good head retention.

S - Not a very intense or robust smell at first. Roasted chocolatey malts, maybe a faint hint of dark fruits and some toasted dark bread. As the beer warms up, I'm beginning to get some vanilla and more dark fruits.

T - If not served too cold, this beer really opens up and shines. Starts out very roasty and malty, then building up some milk chocolate and vanilla notes, leading into the finish. Hints of dark fruits (raisins, dates) and coffee. For a stout, this is smooth and not bitter. However, if you don't have a sweet tooth, you might find this beer a little too sweet.

M - Medium body to it; not too thick or chewy. Fairly high carbonation. As it warms up, this beer develops a smooth and creamy texture and acts soft and gentle on the pallate. It has some alcohol taste and definitely gives me a warming sensation.

O - This is my second time drinking this beer, and I can definitely say that it's a proper foreign stout! Rich and creamy, warming and delightful. I honestly wouldn't expect so much out of a Jamaican beer! Would make an excellent after-dinner drink!

NightINgale, Oct 21, 2011
Photo of thehyperduck
3.35/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

300 mL bottle from a six-pack picked up at the LCBO; best before January 2012. I have never heard much about this beyond that it existed, but I bought it on a whim because the idea of a Jamaican stout interested me.

Pours an essentially opaque black colour, topped with a finger of creamy tan head with poor retention. Soon there is only a thin collar left around the edge of the glass, with wisps of mocha-coloured foam on the surface. Malty aroma with notes of roasted grains and dark chocolate, coffee and ethanol.

Dark chocolate and roasted grain malts comprise most of the flavour, but there are some other things going on - a bit of coffee with cream, raisins, with dark rum and port wine notes. Not a lot of bitterness, except a bit of coffee in the finish. This is a strong-flavoured brew as one might expect from the ABV, but it manages to avoid cloying sweetness or serious booziness. Medium-bodied, and a bit syrupy. Light carbonation and a very smooth mouthfeel.

A decent sipper; a bit of roughness around the edges but overall nothing overtly awful (or great). The alcohol isn't especially well-hidden. The flavour is alright and honestly a bit more complex than I was expecting, but the booze raunches it up a bit, and combined with the sweetness the whole thing can be a bit much if you aren't in the mood for it.

[Updated July 4 2014]

A random single picked up at the LCBO, best before Oct 21 2015. I still have no strong feelings one way or another about this stout - it's a little boozy, and smells kind of gross, but it tastes just about the way I'd expect an export stout to. That is to say, sweet, roasty, and strong; but to be honest Sinha does the same thing much better IMO.

Final Grade: 3.35, a B-.

thehyperduck, Oct 02, 2011
Photo of hopsolutely
3.9/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A solid, pleasantly drinkable stout.

This pour is beautifully coffee coloured with limited carbonation, yet still maintains a pleasantly silky mouthfeel. Much molasses in the aroma, but a well balanced malt flavour profile with coffee highlights. The higher ABV is warming, but much less alcohol "burn" than I'd expected. In short, the finish is dry without any lingering bitterness.

Definitely the best Jamaican beer I have thus far enjoyed!

hopsolutely, Aug 26, 2011
Photo of CaptJackHarkness
4.47/5  rDev +28.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Nice creamy but, short lasting head. A deep rich chocolate malt taste Crisper aftertaste than most Stouts. Since this is a foreign export Stout, I'd be curious to know what the Jamaicans keep for themselves! ( A Guinness for example tastes much different in Dublin than in New York; I know from experience!)Surprisingly smooth for 15 Proof! (I'm old school)(In fact, I'll explain for those who don't know... Proof is an older measure of ethanol in a beverage. In the U.S. Proof = 2x the ABV of a liquid.)

CaptJackHarkness, Aug 20, 2011
Photo of vfgccp
3.48/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A – Black with cola highlights. Medium/dark khaki head settles into a light dusting and a firm halo.

S – Booze soaked plums and raisins. Dark, tangy sweetness of molasses and teriyaki.

T - The profile is well pronounced, and impressively smooth, but a tad too sweet (even for the style imho). Opens with milk chocolate bars and dried plums with a drizzle of light booze. The middle brings out malted milk balls. Honey and burnt caramel in the finish.

M – Medium light body is soft and smooth. Low carbonation really hurts the beer; it could have helped to cut through some of the sweetness.

O – A nice example of the style balanced on the sweeter side of the spectrum.

vfgccp, Jul 31, 2011
Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.48/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

9.6 oz bottle poured into a Sierra Nevada imperial pint.
7.5% ABV, 13L10 5 on the neck. Ok.

Thanks to Beerwolf77 for the bottle from his stout's of the month deal.

A - Pitch black, the pint looks foreboding and is filled with dense tan foam. Effervescent, it doesn't last all that long but leaves good lace behind.

S - Grainy and raw in aroma, the acridly burnt malts give notes of dry cocoa but little depth beyond that. The crumbly dirt and minerally finish don't do it any favors.

T - Roasted black malt with coffee and cocoa notes overshadows the earthy soil thing going on. The finish is more crisp and clean that one might expect.

M - Creamy and full-bodied, this stout is somewhat dry and mildly acrid bitter but finishes surprisingly clean.

O - Not too bad at all, it's a fairly drinkable higher ABV stout that's incredibly roasted and earthy in nature.

BeerFMAndy, Jul 09, 2011
Photo of Roke87
3.1/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

300 mL bottle, poured into a Duvel tulip at cellar temperature.
Best before date: July 2012

Appearance- Pours a nice black colour and pretty much completely opaque, average pour yielded a fluffy two fingers of tan mocha coloured head that slowly dissipates to a nice thick ring with a nice bubbly top that sticks around right till the end.

Smell- The nose is a little below average for a stout but the usual smells are hidden in there somewhere. You do get that rich roasted malt smell mixed with a bit of dark chocolate and slight hint of coffee thrown in there, and I do also detect a slight hint of alcohol as well although it is not an overly high ABV for the style.

Taste- Interesting tastes but not because there is a whole lot going on in this one, it is quite the contrary. I am trying to put a finger on the tastes here but there just is not a whole lot going on here. I do get a nice roasted malt aftertaste though and I can also taste some dark fruity flavours mixed with a hint of dark chocolate and an even slighter hint of coffee.

Mouthfeel- For a stout it is more on the light-medium bodied end of the scale, more watery than it is smooth and creamy and it does have a higher level of carbonation also for a stout.

Overall- Smell is lacking, and the taste is more than lacking as well not to mention the watered down mouth feel. This is just not a stout for me in any way shape or form. Probably would not get this one again and definitely would not go anywhere out of my way to acquire it, I mean if I’m ever in Jamaica I would drink it again over the other adjunct garbage that is probably served there but this one is just not for me with so many other great choices around.

Roke87, May 23, 2011
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3.05/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours pitch black with 1.5 fingers worth of creamy mocha head. Settles to a thin cap and left a lot of lacing.

S: The smell is pretty weak. There’s some roasted malt with a little bit of chocolate.

T: The taste is lacking as well. Faint roasted malt and a little chocolate. Finishes with an alcohol taste.

M: Medium to high carbonation with a medium body.

O: This didn’t seem like a stout to me. Tasted more like a dark ale. It wasn’t bad but I probably won’t buy it again.

marty21, May 04, 2011
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3.45/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz Bottle

Appearance - The beer pours an opaque black/brown colour with a large frothy light brown coloured head. I can't see much carbonation due the darkness of the beer and there is some fair lacing on the sides of the glass. The head lasted for 5 minutes before it began to dissipate.

Smell - chocolate, malts, grains, raisins, smoke

Taste & Mouth - The beer has an above average amount of carbonation and most of the taste consists of chocolate, breads/grains and malts. There is also a burnt flavour that causes the beer to have a smoky taste. The beer finishes with a chocolate and dark fruit malty aftertaste.

Overall – I found the levels of carbonation a little too high and that the beer was more like a dubbel than a stout. The alcohol was well hidden and it was fairly light on the palette. I’m happy I gave this one a try.

spinrsx, Apr 26, 2011
Photo of jgirotto
4.35/5  rDev +25.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dark rich color but a smell that is surprisingly sweet.

Taste is smooth and the sugar comes through here. Light on carbonation. I have served this almost as a desert, well certainly with desert (chocolate / cherry). This is almost a port replacement.

jgirotto, Apr 16, 2011
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3.4/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Glad to see a dark from the Caribbean that is this pleasing on the palate, unlike most lite beach beers from the region.

A: A deep dark opaque brown. Lacing all around left by the cappuccino brown head made of large bubbles.

S: A terrible copper pennies smell. The roasted malt is there but the metallic smell is gag worthy, quite off putting.

T: Chocolaty. Has a nice roasted quality and a sweet brown sugar or molasses middle with chocolate at the rear. By far the best quality of this carribean dark.

M: Has a boozy finish on the tongue which is sensible due to the 7.5abv. Carbonation lasts making the froth coat the mouth.

D: Id go back to this beer after another as long as they get that copper taste out. Could have been a bad batch after not cleaning the lines or using that metal spoon. Also the Red Stripe style of a small bottle makes this easy to go back to back on.

BasementBer, Apr 10, 2011
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4.35/5  rDev +25.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330ml brown bottle poured into a Delirium Tremens snifter.

A. Dark brown beer topped by a pillowy, bubbly yellow-brown mustard coloured head.

S. Black malt, slight coffee notes, pralines, hints of liquorice, caramelised sugar.

T. Coffee, jammy taste, juicy figs. Leaves a nice smoky and slightly bitter finish.

M. Medium.

D. A thoroughly enjoyable Caribbean stout. I particularly enjoyed the finish.

AEK, Apr 08, 2011
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3.4/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz bottle into a sampler glass at a beer festival. From notes: Pours a clear dark brown color with a medium tan head. Decent head retention and lacing. Aroma of sweet dark malty notes, sweet coffee and a faint roastiness. The taste is very sweet and almost sugary, with notes of coffee and faint roasty notes. Very faint hops and nearly no bitterness at all. Sweet, almost to the point of being cloying. Medium bodied.

CuriousMonk, Apr 08, 2011
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3.55/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Black, deep ruby highlights in the light, light tan/off white head. Smell is malty, lactic notes, some coffee and baking chocolate and alcohol notes throughout. Taste is Roasted malt, faint alcohol, sweet milky notes, cocoa like notes and a bittersweet finish. Good feel and slightly high carbonation that works well here, full body and creamy at points. Drinks well, maybe a bit too sweet for me but would have one of these now and again though.

peensteen, Apr 04, 2011
Photo of clr231
3.15/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Very dark, pours with small head that vanishes quickly. Roasted malt is dominant with coffee and chocolate tones. Little carbonation and light mouthfeel. Flavor is nice, maybe too sweet for my tastes but a decent milk stout. The high alcohol content (7.5%) would make me come back to try it again.

clr231, Apr 01, 2011
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2.48/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle dated BB March 12, no year? Poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours with no head? Dark, though not opaque. Expecting way more for a 7.5%stout
S: Muted aroma. Some sweetness on the nose, though distinctly of corn.
T: Is this a stout? Really? Corn and a bit of earthy bitter are the dominant flavours. No real roasted grain character either. I really let it warm up to see if new character would develop. Nada.
M: Thin. Not enjoyable.
O: Never again. Not a stout, and barely a dark ale.

kjyost, Mar 28, 2011
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3.88/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

284ml bottle, consumed Mar 2011, BBE Mar 2012.

A - Black bodied with ruby highlights, more like a Porter body than a full Stout. Loose-bubbled mocha head that dissipates fairly quickly, leaving very little head or lacing.

S - Mild aroma of chocolate and coffee, hint of bitterness in the nose.

T - A lot sweeter than I would normally expect of a Stout. Chocolate takes the lead, quite mild in the middle and finishes sweet with chocolate and coffee notes and some bitterness, with a little alcohol in the background.

M - Smooth, medium bodied, light carbonation.

O - Very drinkable, though that 7.5% ABV could get away on you if you weren't careful! ;)

Wattsox, Mar 16, 2011
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4.13/5  rDev +19%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I recieved this bottle in a mix dark beer gift box..

A - The black color of this beer is how I like a beer to look. Once you go black you will never go back.

T - Good blend of chocolate/cinnamon flavor - not over powering.

M - Average - not going to wow you when it hits your tongue - kind of like a good friend you have always known is visiting.

D - Overall, a tasty stout. I'm surprised a stout this good is Jamaican - I guess it is my ignorance that thinks of Red Stripe and Ginger Beer when thinking of Jamaican Beers.

SisuPride, Mar 12, 2011
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2.42/5  rDev -30.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Thanks to liamt07 for sending me this one.

Black color beer. Quite dark too. Brown foamy head. Damn, the smell isn't good at all... surely not inviting... more strange but not in a good way. I get some chocolate and licorice with something else that make the smell bad. Taste is so light, it is sad. Some chocolate. No bitterness. This beer needs some work. Feels like water in the mouth.

ZorPrime, Mar 12, 2011
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1.9/5  rDev -45.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Picked this out purely from the look of the label. I've never seen this beer before. And quite frankly, I don't care if I never see it again.

A: Good amount of tan head settling over a dark brew with mahogany edges. Minor retention and no lacing.

S: Aromas are faint. A few heavy breaths in hint at roasty chocolate malt characteristics. A little berry punch in there too.

T/M: Very very fruity, sweet and syrupy. Almost overwhelming. It takes a moment before I can extract a bitter background to the sugary sweetness. Overripe berries lightly dipped in milk chocolate. Mouthfeel is medium, with that syrup quality settling the sweet flavors all over my palate. Fizzy, and with some warmth more sugar comes out ... and now this beer is like an overly sweetened soda, and I can no longer drink it.

D: Two to four good sips and I've had enough of this one. This beer needs some lovin' from humulus lupulus. ie...stouts are best when balanced.

washburnkid, Mar 07, 2011
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3.9/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This was supposed to be stocked on our resort, but they were "mysteriously" always out of stock. Managed to score a bottle in the city.

A - Pours pitch black with a finger of mocha head, solid retention which settles to some islands and leaves some sporadic sticky lacing.

S - Sweet milk chocolate, though some bitter coffee and espresso come through on the finish. Solid scent and a bit stronger than I was expecting.

T - Surprisingly tasty and full flavoured. The sweet chocolate malts come through nicely with a bit of a cinnamon toast flavour also present. The bitter espresso is dominant on the finish but mellows to chocolate and marshmallows.

M - A bit thin, and could use a little lift. If it were a bit creamier with a bit more carbonation it would've been perfect.

D - Overall, a tasty stout and a pleasant surprise. I'm glad I went out of my way to find a bottle locally and it is definitely worthy to any stout fan. Higher ABV is nicely hidden, and although not the most thirst quenching beer in the Caribbean, and a tad thin, it is still a full flavoured stout worthy of sourcing out.

andrenaline, Mar 04, 2011
Photo of THECPJ
3.1/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed from notes

Appearance: opaque black with a 1 finger mocha head that dissipates quickly

Smell: roasted malts, coffee, chocholate, and dark fruits (maybe figs/raisins)

Taste: sweet, chocolate and coffee, hints of dark fruits, maybe molasses

Mouthfeel: mild carbonation, sticky on the tongue, but thinner than expected

Drinkability: not a bad option, especially for after dinner imbibing

Cheers!
The CPJ

THECPJ, Mar 04, 2011
Photo of negroobserver
3.05/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

9.6oz bottle - 7.5% ABV

APPEARANCE/COLOR: Very rich dark color. I was drinking this in poor lighting, so decided to get a better look with a flashlight. Using a 9 bulb led flashlight, I was only able to get very little light to appear at the opposite end. The LED bulbs appeared to be like red fish eggs in the glass. Wish I could see this in daylight, because the color must have a strong reddish tone.

SMELL: Chocolate, Oats, Barley, Earthy and Woddy notes.

TASTE: The chocolatey notes are definitely at the front here. There's not much going on in the middle. The woody/chocolatey notes linger for a bit and finish with a mild bitterness.

MOUTHFEEL: Good light to medium Carbonation. The texture is not too rich or dense. It's pretty light compared to the standard that Guiness has established.

DRINKABILITY: I'm not very fond of Stouts. Having said that I could probably drink a few of these, but the strong chocolate and woody notes would get overbearing in the process.

OVERALL: B-/B

negroobserver, Feb 02, 2011
Photo of bventure
3.7/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Presentation: 284ml brown bottle. BBE Dec 2011

Appearance: Virtually black, almost opaque. Reddish highlights if swirled. 1 finger coffee-brown head with some large bubbles, dissipates quickly.

Smell: Roasted malt, coffee, Slight (but not unpleasant) mustiness..

Taste: Sweetish, chocolate, hint of bitterenss in finish. Thought I caught a hint of something herby and fragrant - thyme?

Mouthfeel: Medium to full bodied, smooth. Just the right amount of carbonation, a light tingle on the tongue.

Drinkability: Pleasant if undemanding, alcoholic strength not obvious. Would definitely drink this again.

bventure, Jan 31, 2011
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