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Dragon Stout - Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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BA SCORE
79
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411 Ratings
THE BROS
90
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Ratings: 411
Reviews: 230
rAvg: 3.48
pDev: 17.24%
Wants: 15
Gots: 23 | FT: 0
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Jamaica

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-30-2001

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Ratings: 411 | Reviews: 230
Photo of CaptJackHarkness
4.47/5  rDev +28.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Nice creamy but, short lasting head. A deep rich chocolate malt taste Crisper aftertaste than most Stouts. Since this is a foreign export Stout, I'd be curious to know what the Jamaicans keep for themselves! ( A Guinness for example tastes much different in Dublin than in New York; I know from experience!)Surprisingly smooth for 15 Proof! (I'm old school)(In fact, I'll explain for those who don't know... Proof is an older measure of ethanol in a beverage. In the U.S. Proof = 2x the ABV of a liquid.)

Photo of vfgccp
3.41/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A – Black with cola highlights. Medium/dark khaki head settles into a light dusting and a firm halo.

S – Booze soaked plums and raisins. Dark, tangy sweetness of molasses and teriyaki.

T - The profile is well pronounced, and impressively smooth, but a tad too sweet (even for the style imho). Opens with milk chocolate bars and dried plums with a drizzle of light booze. The middle brings out malted milk balls. Honey and burnt caramel in the finish.

M – Medium light body is soft and smooth. Low carbonation really hurts the beer; it could have helped to cut through some of the sweetness.

O – A nice example of the style balanced on the sweeter side of the spectrum.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.46/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

9.6 oz bottle poured into a Sierra Nevada imperial pint.
7.5% ABV, 13L10 5 on the neck. Ok.

Thanks to Beerwolf77 for the bottle from his stout's of the month deal.

A - Pitch black, the pint looks foreboding and is filled with dense tan foam. Effervescent, it doesn't last all that long but leaves good lace behind.

S - Grainy and raw in aroma, the acridly burnt malts give notes of dry cocoa but little depth beyond that. The crumbly dirt and minerally finish don't do it any favors.

T - Roasted black malt with coffee and cocoa notes overshadows the earthy soil thing going on. The finish is more crisp and clean that one might expect.

M - Creamy and full-bodied, this stout is somewhat dry and mildly acrid bitter but finishes surprisingly clean.

O - Not too bad at all, it's a fairly drinkable higher ABV stout that's incredibly roasted and earthy in nature.

Photo of Roke87
3.11/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

300 mL bottle, poured into a Duvel tulip at cellar temperature.
Best before date: July 2012

Appearance- Pours a nice black colour and pretty much completely opaque, average pour yielded a fluffy two fingers of tan mocha coloured head that slowly dissipates to a nice thick ring with a nice bubbly top that sticks around right till the end.

Smell- The nose is a little below average for a stout but the usual smells are hidden in there somewhere. You do get that rich roasted malt smell mixed with a bit of dark chocolate and slight hint of coffee thrown in there, and I do also detect a slight hint of alcohol as well although it is not an overly high ABV for the style.

Taste- Interesting tastes but not because there is a whole lot going on in this one, it is quite the contrary. I am trying to put a finger on the tastes here but there just is not a whole lot going on here. I do get a nice roasted malt aftertaste though and I can also taste some dark fruity flavours mixed with a hint of dark chocolate and an even slighter hint of coffee.

Mouthfeel- For a stout it is more on the light-medium bodied end of the scale, more watery than it is smooth and creamy and it does have a higher level of carbonation also for a stout.

Overall- Smell is lacking, and the taste is more than lacking as well not to mention the watered down mouth feel. This is just not a stout for me in any way shape or form. Probably would not get this one again and definitely would not go anywhere out of my way to acquire it, I mean if I’m ever in Jamaica I would drink it again over the other adjunct garbage that is probably served there but this one is just not for me with so many other great choices around.

Photo of marty21
3.04/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Pours pitch black with 1.5 fingers worth of creamy mocha head. Settles to a thin cap and left a lot of lacing.

S: The smell is pretty weak. There’s some roasted malt with a little bit of chocolate.

T: The taste is lacking as well. Faint roasted malt and a little chocolate. Finishes with an alcohol taste.

M: Medium to high carbonation with a medium body.

O: This didn’t seem like a stout to me. Tasted more like a dark ale. It wasn’t bad but I probably won’t buy it again.

Photo of spinrsx
3.45/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz Bottle

Appearance - The beer pours an opaque black/brown colour with a large frothy light brown coloured head. I can't see much carbonation due the darkness of the beer and there is some fair lacing on the sides of the glass. The head lasted for 5 minutes before it began to dissipate.

Smell - chocolate, malts, grains, raisins, smoke

Taste & Mouth - The beer has an above average amount of carbonation and most of the taste consists of chocolate, breads/grains and malts. There is also a burnt flavour that causes the beer to have a smoky taste. The beer finishes with a chocolate and dark fruit malty aftertaste.

Overall – I found the levels of carbonation a little too high and that the beer was more like a dubbel than a stout. The alcohol was well hidden and it was fairly light on the palette. I’m happy I gave this one a try.

Photo of jgirotto
4.33/5  rDev +24.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dark rich color but a smell that is surprisingly sweet.

Taste is smooth and the sugar comes through here. Light on carbonation. I have served this almost as a desert, well certainly with desert (chocolate / cherry). This is almost a port replacement.

Photo of BasementBer
3.25/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Glad to see a dark from the Caribbean that is this pleasing on the palate, unlike most lite beach beers from the region.

A: A deep dark opaque brown. Lacing all around left by the cappuccino brown head made of large bubbles.

S: A terrible copper pennies smell. The roasted malt is there but the metallic smell is gag worthy, quite off putting.

T: Chocolaty. Has a nice roasted quality and a sweet brown sugar or molasses middle with chocolate at the rear. By far the best quality of this carribean dark.

M: Has a boozy finish on the tongue which is sensible due to the 7.5abv. Carbonation lasts making the froth coat the mouth.

D: Id go back to this beer after another as long as they get that copper taste out. Could have been a bad batch after not cleaning the lines or using that metal spoon. Also the Red Stripe style of a small bottle makes this easy to go back to back on.

Photo of AEK
4.33/5  rDev +24.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330ml brown bottle poured into a Delirium Tremens snifter.

A. Dark brown beer topped by a pillowy, bubbly yellow-brown mustard coloured head.

S. Black malt, slight coffee notes, pralines, hints of liquorice, caramelised sugar.

T. Coffee, jammy taste, juicy figs. Leaves a nice smoky and slightly bitter finish.

M. Medium.

D. A thoroughly enjoyable Caribbean stout. I particularly enjoyed the finish.

Photo of CuriousMonk
3.38/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz bottle into a sampler glass at a beer festival. From notes: Pours a clear dark brown color with a medium tan head. Decent head retention and lacing. Aroma of sweet dark malty notes, sweet coffee and a faint roastiness. The taste is very sweet and almost sugary, with notes of coffee and faint roasty notes. Very faint hops and nearly no bitterness at all. Sweet, almost to the point of being cloying. Medium bodied.

Photo of peensteen
3.55/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Black, deep ruby highlights in the light, light tan/off white head. Smell is malty, lactic notes, some coffee and baking chocolate and alcohol notes throughout. Taste is Roasted malt, faint alcohol, sweet milky notes, cocoa like notes and a bittersweet finish. Good feel and slightly high carbonation that works well here, full body and creamy at points. Drinks well, maybe a bit too sweet for me but would have one of these now and again though.

Photo of clr231
3.11/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Very dark, pours with small head that vanishes quickly. Roasted malt is dominant with coffee and chocolate tones. Little carbonation and light mouthfeel. Flavor is nice, maybe too sweet for my tastes but a decent milk stout. The high alcohol content (7.5%) would make me come back to try it again.

Photo of kjyost
2.47/5  rDev -29%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle dated BB March 12, no year? Poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours with no head? Dark, though not opaque. Expecting way more for a 7.5%stout
S: Muted aroma. Some sweetness on the nose, though distinctly of corn.
T: Is this a stout? Really? Corn and a bit of earthy bitter are the dominant flavours. No real roasted grain character either. I really let it warm up to see if new character would develop. Nada.
M: Thin. Not enjoyable.
O: Never again. Not a stout, and barely a dark ale.

Photo of Wattsox
3.85/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

284ml bottle, consumed Mar 2011, BBE Mar 2012.

A - Black bodied with ruby highlights, more like a Porter body than a full Stout. Loose-bubbled mocha head that dissipates fairly quickly, leaving very little head or lacing.

S - Mild aroma of chocolate and coffee, hint of bitterness in the nose.

T - A lot sweeter than I would normally expect of a Stout. Chocolate takes the lead, quite mild in the middle and finishes sweet with chocolate and coffee notes and some bitterness, with a little alcohol in the background.

M - Smooth, medium bodied, light carbonation.

O - Very drinkable, though that 7.5% ABV could get away on you if you weren't careful! ;)

Photo of SisuPride
4.09/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I recieved this bottle in a mix dark beer gift box..

A - The black color of this beer is how I like a beer to look. Once you go black you will never go back.

T - Good blend of chocolate/cinnamon flavor - not over powering.

M - Average - not going to wow you when it hits your tongue - kind of like a good friend you have always known is visiting.

D - Overall, a tasty stout. I'm surprised a stout this good is Jamaican - I guess it is my ignorance that thinks of Red Stripe and Ginger Beer when thinking of Jamaican Beers.

Photo of ZorPrime
2.42/5  rDev -30.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Thanks to liamt07 for sending me this one.

Black color beer. Quite dark too. Brown foamy head. Damn, the smell isn't good at all... surely not inviting... more strange but not in a good way. I get some chocolate and licorice with something else that make the smell bad. Taste is so light, it is sad. Some chocolate. No bitterness. This beer needs some work. Feels like water in the mouth.

Photo of washburnkid
1.96/5  rDev -43.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Picked this out purely from the look of the label. I've never seen this beer before. And quite frankly, I don't care if I never see it again.

A: Good amount of tan head settling over a dark brew with mahogany edges. Minor retention and no lacing.

S: Aromas are faint. A few heavy breaths in hint at roasty chocolate malt characteristics. A little berry punch in there too.

T/M: Very very fruity, sweet and syrupy. Almost overwhelming. It takes a moment before I can extract a bitter background to the sugary sweetness. Overripe berries lightly dipped in milk chocolate. Mouthfeel is medium, with that syrup quality settling the sweet flavors all over my palate. Fizzy, and with some warmth more sugar comes out ... and now this beer is like an overly sweetened soda, and I can no longer drink it.

D: Two to four good sips and I've had enough of this one. This beer needs some lovin' from humulus lupulus. ie...stouts are best when balanced.

Photo of andrenaline
3.9/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

This was supposed to be stocked on our resort, but they were "mysteriously" always out of stock. Managed to score a bottle in the city.

A - Pours pitch black with a finger of mocha head, solid retention which settles to some islands and leaves some sporadic sticky lacing.

S - Sweet milk chocolate, though some bitter coffee and espresso come through on the finish. Solid scent and a bit stronger than I was expecting.

T - Surprisingly tasty and full flavoured. The sweet chocolate malts come through nicely with a bit of a cinnamon toast flavour also present. The bitter espresso is dominant on the finish but mellows to chocolate and marshmallows.

M - A bit thin, and could use a little lift. If it were a bit creamier with a bit more carbonation it would've been perfect.

D - Overall, a tasty stout and a pleasant surprise. I'm glad I went out of my way to find a bottle locally and it is definitely worthy to any stout fan. Higher ABV is nicely hidden, and although not the most thirst quenching beer in the Caribbean, and a tad thin, it is still a full flavoured stout worthy of sourcing out.

Photo of THECPJ
3.12/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed from notes

Appearance: opaque black with a 1 finger mocha head that dissipates quickly

Smell: roasted malts, coffee, chocholate, and dark fruits (maybe figs/raisins)

Taste: sweet, chocolate and coffee, hints of dark fruits, maybe molasses

Mouthfeel: mild carbonation, sticky on the tongue, but thinner than expected

Drinkability: not a bad option, especially for after dinner imbibing

Cheers!
The CPJ

Photo of negroobserver
3.06/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

9.6oz bottle - 7.5% ABV

APPEARANCE/COLOR: Very rich dark color. I was drinking this in poor lighting, so decided to get a better look with a flashlight. Using a 9 bulb led flashlight, I was only able to get very little light to appear at the opposite end. The LED bulbs appeared to be like red fish eggs in the glass. Wish I could see this in daylight, because the color must have a strong reddish tone.

SMELL: Chocolate, Oats, Barley, Earthy and Woddy notes.

TASTE: The chocolatey notes are definitely at the front here. There's not much going on in the middle. The woody/chocolatey notes linger for a bit and finish with a mild bitterness.

MOUTHFEEL: Good light to medium Carbonation. The texture is not too rich or dense. It's pretty light compared to the standard that Guiness has established.

DRINKABILITY: I'm not very fond of Stouts. Having said that I could probably drink a few of these, but the strong chocolate and woody notes would get overbearing in the process.

OVERALL: B-/B

Photo of bventure
3.66/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Presentation: 284ml brown bottle. BBE Dec 2011

Appearance: Virtually black, almost opaque. Reddish highlights if swirled. 1 finger coffee-brown head with some large bubbles, dissipates quickly.

Smell: Roasted malt, coffee, Slight (but not unpleasant) mustiness..

Taste: Sweetish, chocolate, hint of bitterenss in finish. Thought I caught a hint of something herby and fragrant - thyme?

Mouthfeel: Medium to full bodied, smooth. Just the right amount of carbonation, a light tingle on the tongue.

Drinkability: Pleasant if undemanding, alcoholic strength not obvious. Would definitely drink this again.

Photo of biglite351
3.06/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - a good bit of red around the edges. Tall creamy tan head.

S - mild roasted malts, nut very light.

T - roasted malts, mild chocolate and a touch of fruit.

M - medium coating with just a touch of tingle on the sides of the tongue.

D - easily drinkable but I would probably go for something with a stronger flavor.

Photo of liamt07
2.9/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Bottle from the LCBO, 330ml poured into a snifter. Bottled October 9, 2010.

Poured a viscous black, with a finger or so of reddish brown head which falls to a collar. Little retention. Nose is some milky, creamy chocolate, some light coffee and sweet coconut, albeit a lesser contribution than the other two. Taste is relatively uneventful, some chocolate with a lactic creaminess. Mild dark fruits linger in the background. Mouthfeel is a bit weird and chalky, with active carbonation that's a bit high in my eyes. Medium drinkability.

Photo of JohnnyBarman
3.53/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Just one of those brews that's been at the LCBO for as long as I can remember, but I've yet to take a stab at it. Come to think of it, neither have any of my friends. Good thing? Bad thing? We'll soon see. Picked up a six pack of 300ml bottles.

Poured into a nonic. A soupy black concoction, that produces a fairly decent light tan head that survives as thin surface layer with a thick ring. Flecks of lacing here and there. Ruby when held to the light. Actually doesn't look half-bad.

Nose is chocolate, sugar, figs and raisins, perhaps a bit of alcohol and cream as well. Just realized that the bottle packs a 7.5% wallop. Oy...

A sweet stout, with rum/molasses, mild roasted malt and milk chocolate. When I was new on the beer drinking scene, this was what I had assumed a 'milk stout' would taste like - sweet and chocolatey, with a mild cream flavor. Almost a dessert in and of itself.

Mouthfeel is chewy, thick and creamy. Mild carbonation, goes down a bit like a root beer float: slightly flat, but creamy. Went down incredibly fast.

You win this round, Jamaica. Clearly I wasn't expecting such a sweet, drinkable stout, no less from the brewers that put forward Red Stripe, a passable but boring pale lager. Too sweet for everyday or session drinking, but if you're in the mood for something sweet to sip after dinner or to serve with dessert (and is cheap and regularly available), we've found your man. Despite the treatening name, this Dragon doesn't pose much of a threat - it's pretty tame, and just wants to like you and take you on cool adventures. Why not let it?

Photo of ritzkiss
2.9/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

pours a dark cola brown with a finger of tan head which dies down to a few patches. Nose is an uninspiring mix of roasted malts, musty coffee and a hint of bakers chocolate. Taste follows suit with a healthy dose of dark fruits and a weird cola taste, chemical sugar sweetness, odd mineral dryness in the finish. Way too fizzy, too thin. I can imagine this is a welcome relief from all the light lagers in Jamaica but here there are too many other far superior beers to visit this one again.

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Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
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