Dragon Stout - Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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427 Ratings
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Ratings: 427
Reviews: 233
rAvg: 3.49
pDev: 16.91%
Wants: 16
Gots: 24 | FT: 0
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Jamaica

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-30-2001

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Photo of flyingpig
3.88/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

284ml bottle (£1.49, Costcutter, London):
Dark black colour with a thumb sized and foamy looking white head that holds incredibly well and looks rather thick. There was a nice amount of lacing too.

Sweet smelling beer with a pleasant dark chocolate and caramel aroma coupled with some darker fruits such as raisin and figs. There was a touch of plum as well and a sort of milky chocolate aroma towards the end along with a slight touch of alcohol coming through.

Milky chocolate base with some light coffee and some stronger caramel together with the same combination of darker fruits found in the nose, notably fig, plum and raisin along with some sugar sweetness from these.

A medium body with a smooth taste and a very sweet, alcohol laced mouthfeel that was slightly creamy on the finish.

Strong and sweet beer with good depth of flavour and a lot going on with it. A good beer to drink and one that despite the hints of alcohol also went down very easily. Probably not quite as good as Lion Stout but certainly a beer I would have again should the opportunity arise.

Photo of His_Royal_Hoppiness
3.75/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.75

A: Deep black with a small brown head.

S: Plums, raisins, chocolate, wood chippings.

T: Very sweet, but not sickly - strong malty flavour with lots of dark fruit.

M: Slightly over-carbonated, in a fizzy unappealling way - a bit like drinking coke.

This was much better than I'd anticipated - I definitely preferred it to Nigerian guinness which is probably the closest thing I've had - it didn't have the unpleasant lactic sourness of the guinness. Unfortunately the well-balanced flavour profile wasreally let down by excessive carbonation.

Photo of ErikaDriscool
4.68/5  rDev +34.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I have been searching for this beer for three years since I first tried it at a friend's party.
My search continues as I long for it's sweet intoxicating aroma and exotic buzz.
This is the beer that took my stout cherry!
If you are lucky enough to land your undeserving paws on some,
sit back and be prepared for a total mouth orgasm.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.45/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The Caribbean Isle beer drinking culture is a peculiar one. It's either feast or famine with either the grainy sweet lagers or robustly malted stouts. Many say it's the influence of light bodied German lagers for hot weather or the English influence wit the stouts. But where's the IPAs?

Dragon Stout pours with a creamy and viscous visual texture. As the beer settles in the glass, it releases a sandy tan head that's creamy, whipped, and lightly moussey. However short lived, the beer quickly dispels its carbonation and falls quite still barley half way through the session.

Malty sweet aromas of chocolate, molasses, coffee, and lesser notes of dark fruit. The balanced scents never allow one attribute to dictate the others.

Bold flavors of sweet malt keeps grounded the flavors of French press coffee, roasted walnuts, cocoa, licorice, and medium scorched caramel. After the roast and cocoa trail off, the sweetness is exposed with the taste of hard candy and cola soft drinks. Mild peppercorn and toast help to finish the beer with a linger of cola in aftertaste.

Full bodied, expecially as the early carbonation keeps the beer expansive and creamy. But the middle texture sheds its carbonation and allows a syrupy feel to linger indefinitely on the palate. Alcohol warmth and mild roast astringency are lasting trigamental memories.

The beer almost succeeds as a tropical version of stout. But its flimsy middle palate and finish allows the beer to fall apart and expose harsher and mild artificial taste. Still, it's the best product that I've yet to try from the makers of Red Stripe.

Photo of Kremlock
3.48/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Deep ruby colour with a frothy off brown head that laces the glace.

S: Hints of alcohol, sweetness, roatiness is far in the back and there is some chocolate milk aromas.

T: This is your tropical foreign stout at it's best. I do taste a lot of sweetness that it not malt (IMO). There is also a chocolate mile flavour that comes through.

M: Light mouthfeel but carbonation is very nice

O: For a tropical foreign stout this is on still. Sweet, estery and balanced.

Photo of rangerred
2.65/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

284ml bottle into a snifter.

Pours pitch black with a very tiny dark brown head. Nothing in the way of head retention and just a thin ring of lace around the top of the beer.

The aroma is pretty weak with some milk chocolate along with espresso and dark fruit. All are very weak, however.

Flavor is also somewhat weak. Lots of milk chocolate up front along with hints of dark fruit. I can definitely pick up some pipe tobacco flavors and faint coffee. There is an ever-present sweetness that is a bit of a turn off. Bitterness picks up towards the finish but not enough to balance out the sweetness. The finish isn't real sticky, though, which is nice.

Overall, not really the best foreign stout I have had. It is almost like it needs more hops to balance out the sweetness. Also, the flavors are just not very pronounced. Really not something worth seeking out.

Photo of TheHammer
3.63/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Produced a finger of head that retained like crazy, but sadly did not lace. The body is as black as night, as a good stout should be.

Smell: Lots of chocolate and almost a sweet coconut smell to it. I'm also catching some coffee and malt notes in the background. It's good, but I'm left expecting more.

Taste: Starts out sweet, creamy and milky as the malt then makes an appearance as it comes forward with a raw sugar and mild chocolate taste that then finally ends with a bitter kick that is far milder then most stouts but comes out with a bit of a mineral note.

Mouthfeel: Chocolate aftertaste which I like as well as a surreal creaminess. The transitioning is a little awkward and the carbonation falls flat near the end, but all in all sold stuff here. Tastes a little thin though.

Drinkability: Very mild for a stout as it is fairly light bodied, which is odd for a stout but it seems to have a surreal smoothness to it.

Final Thoughts: When I first looked at this beer, I thought that a stout from Jamaica would be awful. However, Desnoes & Geddes seem to me to be the best of Caribbean beer. I wouldn't say it's epicly good, but it's certainly worth seeking out.

Photo of mick303
4/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours three fingers of light tan brown head, goes down in a minute or two, leaving a nice film and lace. Colour is jet black.

Aroma has a definite roast character, some fruity grapefruit esters, fresh coffee notes. Also dark chocolate/cocoa, maybe tobacco as well. Quite thick, but pretty good balance.

Flavour follows the nose, plenty of roast coffee, dark chocolate, some cherries. Fair bit of sweetness on the malt. Pretty good complexity and not much in the way of faults. Something of a metallic note on the aftertaste.

Great full mouthfeel, surprisingly smooth and creamy with just enough of a bitter bite, a bit syrupy and plenty dry on the finish. Big body but quite nice drinkability on this.

Pretty nice and enjoyable stout. Traditional profile, and does that quite well. Dryness on the end is good. Not the best I've had, but still a really good brew that deserves a try.

Photo of RonaldTheriot
3.83/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dragon Stout has a thick, tan head, a very dark brown appearance, and a bit of lacing left behind. The aroma is of extremely faint grain husk and just maybe a bit of sweetness. The flavor is unusual- sweetness, sugar, slightly sour grain, malt, and a dash of hop bitterness, but that is low. The mouthfeel is thick and Dragon Stout finishes heavy and filling. One can really feel the alcohol creep into the head with this beer- no alcohol in the flavor, but then, suddenly, "Bam!" Overall, this is a very good beer, and I suggest giving it a try.

RJT

Photo of kylehay2004
3.06/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: very black body with a two finger light tan head.

S: coconut, milk and cream. Little else.

T: very milky and sweet. Cream, coconut and chocolate. Not very beer like and fairly sweet. Very subtle hop bitterness late in the aftertaste.

M: medium body and moderate to high carbonation.

Overall: typical milk stout however the malts are especially hidden here.

Photo of anichols70
4/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First review, so bear with me...

Just returned from a trip to Jamaica. A friendly resort employee picked some up for me. 284ml bottle poured into a tumbler (not many options in the minibar). Best before date of Dec. 2013.

Appearance - Extremely dark, almost black. Minimal light tan head which didn't last long.

Smell - This is my weakest point, but I got molasses and caramel. Maybe a very light burnt coffee.

Taste - Hints of chocolate and maybe a little coffee. Creamy, with a medium mouthfeel. Sweet, like a milk stout. No real bitterness. Slight alcohol on the finish, but not overpowering. At 7.5%, this beer could be dangerous.

Overall - Sweet, but not overly so for me. I was skeptical about a stout in the tropics, but I found it to be actually very refreshing. Much more so than I would have imagined it could be. One of those beers that I think directly represents where it is brewed. Might seem too sweet or unbalanced if I were drinking it at home in New England, but perfect for the location and climate of Jamaica.

Photo of schoolboy
4/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I have a pretty good tasting story for this one. The bottom line is: don't visit Jamaica without drinking some, and be sure to sample some of the other tastey treats for which Jamaica is well known.

I had one day in Jamaica on our cruise last month. Our ship docked in Falmouth and we had hoped to do a shopping/beach/private drive excursion towards Montego Bay, but we ended up with just a beach excursion (keeping in mind that Caribbean beaches are absolutely wonderful). The bar at our beach had Red Stripe tasting better than I had ever remembered but no Dragon Stout. Prevously I've found Dragon imported to the US to be too sweet to drink more than a couple.

The beach boss asked if he could be of assistance - he sent someone to get me some Dragon (and more later). I ended up drinking three, all completely warm. It is as I remembered it, good but too sweet to drink very much of. Still, it was a very pleasant day and I recommend Dragon for Jamaican beach goers.

During the afternoon I wandered down the beach and sampled other very tasty Jamaican products in a beach shack with some locals. Very nice and also recommended for visitors. All in all, Dragon was part of my perfect Jamaican buzz.

Photo of GavDomDadGH
3.49/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - rich black coloring. One finger caramel head that dissipated quickly. No lacing at all.

S - heavy fruit and peat smells. You can smell the malts but they are hidden by sweetness. Hint of chocolate.

T - very deep fruits. Malts are there but ate hidden by sugars. Sweet but not sugary. Not overly sweet either, expected coming from the cane sugar capital.

M - creamy. Medium bodied for a stout but still very good! Low carbonation which I love.

O - better than average but below great. I would say gaverage!

Photo of Stocean1
3.63/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured a two finger cocoa head upon a near black body, little retention or lacing.

Smell is burnt malt, molasses, earthy hops.

Taste follows the nose, very sweet almost cloying, mineral note (iron), not bad at all.

Medium bodied with not a lot of carbonation, very drinkable and not much in the way of bitterness.

Not a bad brew and better than I anticipated. Very low hop profile and sweet yet it works somehow.

Photo of jazzyjeff13
3.58/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A 284ml bottle with a BB of Dec 2012. Picked up cheap from my local off-licence. I've had this before but it's been quite a while.

Poured into a Duvel chalice. An exceptionally deep brown - appears black unless held to a klieg light. Produces a good head of creamy, light-brown foam that lasts for a minute or so before subsiding. Aroma of sweet dark malt with notes of caramel, dried fruit, brown sugar, yeast esters and a considerable whiff of alcohol.

Tastes of sweet, syrupy malt with a sugary, alcoholic finish. Notes of brown sugar, caramel, dried fruit and yeast. A strong alcohol note on the finish; hot and solvent-like. No bitterness to speak of. Mouthfeel is velvet smooth and creamy, with light tingling and mild astringency. Aftertaste of lingering sweet malt and booze.

Decent but very sweet. It has no roasted malt character or hop bitterness. Easy drinking, and has a pleasing texture. I probably wouldn't want more than one in a sitting, as it's a little cloying, but quite drinkable and makes a change from your typical strong stout.

Photo of erosier
4/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

L: Pours a nice black color with a medium sized and light bodied tan colored head that laces the glass nicely on the way down.
S: Smells of sweet roasted and toasted malts, a very sweet cane sugary smell to it that was pretty enticing.
T: Very sweet malt up front followed by a very sweet cane sugary taste to it, some chocolate, and then a hint of alcohol.
M: Smooth, rich, sweet, perfect amount of carbonation, medium bodied.
D: Pretty drinkable, this was a nice beer that had a lot of sweet flavors to it and a pretty decent abv. I liked it, I just wish the bottle was a full 12-16oz.

Photo of Beerandraiderfan
3.05/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Black and brown beer, thin tan head. Roasty aroma, a little bit of fusel alcohol, but otherwise just like your standard stout aroma.

Taste, bitter, roasty. Lacking a real semblance of chocolate flavor. Just tastes a lot like a substantial porter with a load of bitterness. Kinda gritty at times. Don't know where the sweetness is coming from, but it is downplayed in favor of the higher levels of bitterness. So weird, bitter, but not much in the way of hoppy flavor, sweet, but not much in the way of chocolate flavor.

The bitterness and the alcohol are too detectable and are considered flaws in this style. Perhaps a bigger malt presence would absorb these problems, or at least not make them as evident.

A decent option instead of Guinness, when you want something a little stronger and roastier (i.e. like a stout).

Photo of sirdrinkwell
2.75/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: it's a stout, so it comes as no surprise as this brew pours a midnight black into my glass. 1/8 inch of creamy and quickly dissolving head.

Smell: underwhelming, a bit of malt and bit of milky sweetness.

Taste: very sweet, milky and a dryness that is vaguely chocolate.

M: the sweetness leaves a sticky coat on the palate and a candylike aftertaste. while not a dealbreaker it isn't the most pleasant.

O: chalk this one up on the "i tried it, now time to keep it moving" type of brew. nothing memorable here.

salud!

Photo of Knapp85
3.8/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a deep brown color with a foamy tan head on top. The smell of the beer had some coffee notes to it with a light chocolate aroma as well. The taste of the beer had some brown sugar sweetness along with a roasted dry finish. The mouthfeel was thin, I felt it could have used a little more body. Overall this stout was interesting. I would try it again if the mood struck me.

Photo of NightINgale
3.83/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - This beer looks very attractive. Pours a very dark and opaque brown body with a fairly rich, caramel coloured head. Decent lacing, pretty good head retention.

S - Not a very intense or robust smell at first. Roasted chocolatey malts, maybe a faint hint of dark fruits and some toasted dark bread. As the beer warms up, I'm beginning to get some vanilla and more dark fruits.

T - If not served too cold, this beer really opens up and shines. Starts out very roasty and malty, then building up some milk chocolate and vanilla notes, leading into the finish. Hints of dark fruits (raisins, dates) and coffee. For a stout, this is smooth and not bitter. However, if you don't have a sweet tooth, you might find this beer a little too sweet.

M - Medium body to it; not too thick or chewy. Fairly high carbonation. As it warms up, this beer develops a smooth and creamy texture and acts soft and gentle on the pallate. It has some alcohol taste and definitely gives me a warming sensation.

O - This is my second time drinking this beer, and I can definitely say that it's a proper foreign stout! Rich and creamy, warming and delightful. I honestly wouldn't expect so much out of a Jamaican beer! Would make an excellent after-dinner drink!

Photo of thehyperduck
3.31/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

300 mL bottle from a six-pack picked up at the LCBO; best before January 2012. I have never heard much about this beyond that it existed, but I bought it on a whim because the idea of a Jamaican stout interested me.

Pours an essentially opaque black colour, topped with a finger of creamy tan head with poor retention. Soon there is only a thin collar left around the edge of the glass, with wisps of mocha-coloured foam on the surface. Malty aroma with notes of roasted grains and dark chocolate, coffee and ethanol.

Dark chocolate and roasted grain malts comprise most of the flavour, but there are some other things going on - a bit of coffee with cream, raisins, with dark rum and port wine notes. Not a lot of bitterness, except a bit of coffee in the finish. This is a strong-flavoured brew as one might expect from the ABV, but it manages to avoid cloying sweetness or serious booziness. Medium-bodied, and a bit syrupy. Light carbonation and a very smooth mouthfeel.

A decent sipper; a bit of roughness around the edges but overall nothing overtly awful (or great). The alcohol isn't especially well-hidden. The flavour is alright and honestly a bit more complex than I was expecting, but the booze raunches it up a bit, and combined with the sweetness the whole thing can be a bit much if you aren't in the mood for it.

[Updated July 4 2014]

A random single picked up at the LCBO, best before Oct 21 2015. I still have no strong feelings one way or another about this stout - it's a little boozy, and smells kind of gross, but it tastes just about the way I'd expect an export stout to. That is to say, sweet, roasty, and strong; but to be honest Sinha does the same thing much better IMO.

Final Grade: 3.31, a B-.

Photo of hopsolutely
3.9/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A solid, pleasantly drinkable stout.

This pour is beautifully coffee coloured with limited carbonation, yet still maintains a pleasantly silky mouthfeel. Much molasses in the aroma, but a well balanced malt flavour profile with coffee highlights. The higher ABV is warming, but much less alcohol "burn" than I'd expected. In short, the finish is dry without any lingering bitterness.

Definitely the best Jamaican beer I have thus far enjoyed!

Photo of CaptJackHarkness
4.47/5  rDev +28.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Nice creamy but, short lasting head. A deep rich chocolate malt taste Crisper aftertaste than most Stouts. Since this is a foreign export Stout, I'd be curious to know what the Jamaicans keep for themselves! ( A Guinness for example tastes much different in Dublin than in New York; I know from experience!)Surprisingly smooth for 15 Proof! (I'm old school)(In fact, I'll explain for those who don't know... Proof is an older measure of ethanol in a beverage. In the U.S. Proof = 2x the ABV of a liquid.)

Photo of vfgccp
3.41/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A – Black with cola highlights. Medium/dark khaki head settles into a light dusting and a firm halo.

S – Booze soaked plums and raisins. Dark, tangy sweetness of molasses and teriyaki.

T - The profile is well pronounced, and impressively smooth, but a tad too sweet (even for the style imho). Opens with milk chocolate bars and dried plums with a drizzle of light booze. The middle brings out malted milk balls. Honey and burnt caramel in the finish.

M – Medium light body is soft and smooth. Low carbonation really hurts the beer; it could have helped to cut through some of the sweetness.

O – A nice example of the style balanced on the sweeter side of the spectrum.

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.46/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

9.6 oz bottle poured into a Sierra Nevada imperial pint.
7.5% ABV, 13L10 5 on the neck. Ok.

Thanks to Beerwolf77 for the bottle from his stout's of the month deal.

A - Pitch black, the pint looks foreboding and is filled with dense tan foam. Effervescent, it doesn't last all that long but leaves good lace behind.

S - Grainy and raw in aroma, the acridly burnt malts give notes of dry cocoa but little depth beyond that. The crumbly dirt and minerally finish don't do it any favors.

T - Roasted black malt with coffee and cocoa notes overshadows the earthy soil thing going on. The finish is more crisp and clean that one might expect.

M - Creamy and full-bodied, this stout is somewhat dry and mildly acrid bitter but finishes surprisingly clean.

O - Not too bad at all, it's a fairly drinkable higher ABV stout that's incredibly roasted and earthy in nature.

Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
79 out of 100 based on 427 ratings.