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Dragon Stout - Desnoes & Geddes Limited

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BA SCORE
80
good

398 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 398
Reviews: 225
rAvg: 3.48
pDev: 17.53%
Wants: 11
Gots: 16 | FT: 0
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Jamaica

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Bierman9 on 01-30-2001)
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Photo of auntfloyd
3.13/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Served from a 284 ml bottle into a standard pint glass. I tried this one once before -- it's readily available and pretty cheap (less than Guinness), especially in the neighborhoods where I used to live, which had large numbers of immigrants from Jamaica and the rest of the Caribbean.

Pours a dark, very slightly translucent red. This is noticeable right away; usually the best stouts are pitch black and nigh opaque.

The nose is very sweet, with a definite alcohol character. Not exactly a subtle beer.

The taste is is also quite sweet, with strong alcohol flavors over a somewhat dilute coffee/chocolate base. This is a beer that advertises its 7.5% abv, and I'm somewhat inclined to think that they take that far more seriously than the taste.

The mouthfeel is a sticky sweetness. I can see people enjoying these a great deal, but it's too much for me. I enjoy sweet stouts a great deal, but this level of the pure sweet/alcohol combination is just too much. That said, I have had far worse, and paid more for it.

As low cost beers go, this is probably one of your better options... it is cheaper than other stouts and widely available here in the heart of Brookyln. I would definitely not pass up a Rogue, Stone Imperial Russian, or Brooklyn Black Chocolate stout for one of these, but as far as bodega beers go, this one is not a bad choice. You probably won't get ripped off either.

Photo of BlackHaddock
3.3/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

very surprised to see this in Shropshire, so got it straight away.

It had been in the garage waiting for me to open for about 3 months, I couldn't put off any longer and i have drank it tonight while watching the rain fall onto my garden.

Dark, very dark, with an amber tan head which stayed, but originally a lot thicker and tighter, towards the end it was whispy and thining.

Initialy the aroma was strong, but it faded quickly, chocolate and coffee mostly.

Sweet, slightly sticky, but not unpleasant, not the sort of stout I would climb over a nude women to get at, but if offered another, I would drink it.

Photo of faubs
3.63/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Picked up a bottle of this stuff in Jamaica, and it couldn't have come a moment too soon. After six days in a resort where their idea of selection was wanbeer (redstripe) and wanlitebeer (redstripe lite) I couldn't take it anymore. This beer only cost me a quarter, it was plesently cool but not too cold. Sweet to the taste with a good thick consistancy and probably a decent head, but it was in a dark bottle. Well worth a shot if your stranded on an island.

Photo of Litterbean
3.63/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Black with a tan head. Yep, that's about right.

Alcohol is very prominent in the smell, with a very vinous character as well. Strange for a stout, I thought. I wish there were more chocolatey hints (I can say that about the flavor as well).

Saying that, the flavor is a bit simplistic. Smooth, but with a bit of an alcohol spice. Grape-y and medicinal flavors. No real roastedness and not bitter enough for my liking, which is a shame. That being said, I like it, but it's not a very good stout, but a decent enough beer.

Photo of headlessparrot
3.7/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

My stout craze has continued, much to my chagrin - so I headed to the LCBO to grab the only stout widely available in Ontario that I haven't yet tried. That would be Desnoes & Geddes Dragon Stout, a six-pack of which I picked up from the local store. At 7.5% ABV, it's probably a good thing that this brew is served in 300mL bottles, though the style of the bottle itself is rather cool.

In any case, this stout pours into my pint glass a jet/ink black, with only some very light hints of dark ruby around the very outer edge. An aggressive pour leaves a cap of about one-and-a-half fingers, but it dissapates quickly, leaving a couple of rings and some fairly thick lacing on the side of the glass. It's a stout; it looks great, and that's that.

Smell is where things start to get unusual. The most dominant odour for me is a sort of unusual leather-yness that's inexplicable, and is furthermore at times both pleasant (at which times it smells almost chocolatey) and revolting (at which times it smells like burnt plastic). Underneath that is a whole load of sweet. I smell some very sweet milk or cream (perhaps this is as much of a milk stout as it is a foreign/export stout), and even some hints of cane sugar. Faintly chocolatey roasted and toasted malts, but nothing really detectable in the way of hops. An ever so slight alcohol warmth that is best picked out by sniffing straight from the bottle, as well. If I could make up my mind about the leathery-ness, this would be a brew with a great nose, though remarkably sweet.

Taste is similar to the nose. The leathery characters continue a bit, though much more subdued. Both the lactose and cane sugar come through i heavy doses, making this a very sweet brew. There's a dark, roasted and toasted character that's a lot more subdued than most stouts I've tried before (mostly chocolate - both dark and milk, on account of the lactose notes - and some coffee and nuts). Brown sugar, and just a touch of alcohol (especially as it warms). Hints of cola and dark Carribbean rum, perhaps. Finishes faintly bitter, though it's accented by a residual sweetness. I must admit, my first bottle of this stuff tasted absolutely horrid, but I think I may be coming around to it.

Mouthfeel is a mixed bag - carbonation is a fair bit too heavy for a stout (in my opinion), but the body is quite substantial and rich. Drinkability is also a bit of a mixed bag. While this is a pretty good tasting brew, it's tremendous, cloying sweetness can be a bit overwhelming times; I could never drink more than two of these (at most) in a sitting.

In the end, though, Desnoes & Geddes Dragon Stout is a pretty good - and fairly unique - beer; a good stout that's probably a great compliment to a sweet dessert. There's something in the nose (and to a much lesser extent, the taste) that's a little "off," but it's a taste that grows on you. I hated my first, and fell in love with my second. Go figure.

Photo of CrazyMike
4.05/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Starting off, pitch black appearance. My ideal image of an excellent beer. The smell was very sweet, was a bit afraid seeing how it reminded me of strong beers like Colt 45.

The taste was excellent, first beer from Jamaica and tastes like it's from a Belgian microbrewery. Dark and bold, sweet and malty. Tastes almost like roasted nuts and chocolate, like a fine specialty coffee.

A mouthfull is very thick and full bodied, taste does not degenerate at all.

Would higly recommend a try, when it comes to high alcohol beer this is almost on the same pedistal as Duvel. If you are lucky enough to find a case, pick it up so it will last a while since it is very rare. At least around here.

Photo of crwills
3.4/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured this into an old fashioned glass beer stein that I got from my Dad. Made it look great, and was the perfect size for the smallish bottle. Poured a reddish brown with some brighter highlights. Small foamy head that sticks around and leaves quite a bit of lacing.

Aroma is somwhat weak... toffee, roasted malt, and sweetness.

Flavour is good, if a little bit cloying. Roasted malts, sugarcane or brown sugar, and mild chocolate. No hop presence to speak of. Definite alcohol presence as it warms up a bit, which is also noticeable in the aftertaste. Good, solid mouthfeel.

This is not a bad choice, since it's available locally (and you can't get very many foreign/export stouts (or stouts period) around here, especially in the summer). However, it's a little overly sweet for my tastes, and after a six-pack (this was the last one), I think I may hold off on getting any more for a while.

Photo of daliandragon
3.9/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The last time i had this beer was nine years ago and the evening ended at a crappy college bar here on LI with me way ahead in a Corona chugging contest that had the whole bar's attention, only to lose when the lime wedged in the longneck and cut off my beer. Then I went to go puke. It's funny the things you remember, but I remember this brew as an absolute buttkicker...
Pours solid black with healthy brown head into my pint glass. Nose is dominated by a vague oily/raisiny smell with malt and coffee also possibly in the mix. Lacing remains after the head retreats.
Initially strong, the heavy malt tinged alcohol flavor fades to a delicious coffee and mocha combo that could stand to lose a little sweetness if I'm going to be picky. Still, this is flavorfull, skilled beer craftsmanship from a non traditional supplier of quality brew that I'd go back to repeatedly.

Photo of PeatReek
2.68/5  rDev -23%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

A 10-oz bottle... how freakin' cool is that? Pours with a solid black body, thin brown head, rosy tinged, almost orange. Dissolves to a lace rim super-quick. Smells bready-sweet, like an English muffin with jam. Hoo-ah! Speaking of sweet, this beer is almost a cola it's so syrupy. Still manages to have a bit of an alcohol bite, for all that. Barely any roast, just a touch seemingly as a formality. Dragon stout is actually rather interesting as a potential summer/beach drink, but I'd definitely stick to one or a couple at most.

Photo of allergictomacros
2.53/5  rDev -27.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A - Dark, dark brown with red-brown edges. Opaque. Big creamy looking head with good retention and lacing.

S - Slightly boozy. Touch of whiskey-like aromas and lots of roasted smells.

T - Quite sweet. Too sweet methinks, in an aspartame-like way. Toastiness is mostly in the aftertaste.

M - Zippy carbonation is too strong. Body is a bit thin for a stout.

D - Not that good. The sweetness is far too cloying.

Photo of BDTyre
3.8/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

My first true foray into foreign/export stouts...and I'm happy. Looks a little light for a stout, but still quite dark. Thin head. Looks almost like cola.

The smell is sweet, fruity and brings to the nose licorice and molasses. Almost too sweet, but intriguing.

The taste is also sweet, with cola notes and fruit hints. This is almost like a well-done blend Guinness extra stout and cola. Excellent taste; this is hard to put down.

While I quite enjoy this, the sweetness at times can be a bit overbearing and the carbonation a little bit too high.

Available periodically at the Reef in Victoria and Vancouver.

Photo of GreenCard
2.68/5  rDev -23%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: deep dark brown with ruby highlights, great clarity, thinnish layer of tan foam that shrinks to a narrow crown

Aroma: roast, root beer, hint of soy sauce

Flavor: mild sweetness with a flavor like that of a low alcohol table beer (strangely enough), hint of cola, finishes semisweet with a vapid aftertaste of the preceding flavors

Mouthfeel: full body, pert carbonation, smooth but with a hint of astringency

Other comments: An OK strong stout, but not very complex. Might be better with some age as that would add some oxidation flavors for a little more depth.

Photo of WesWes
3.63/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The beer pours a deep, dark black color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is good. It has a sweet chocolate and roasted malt scent that is rich and creamy with some alcohol notes. The taste is decent. It has a thin, yet quite malty flavor that goes down easy and finishes warm and smooth. It is intensely sweet with loads of crystal malts along with a slight roasted feel. It has a pronounced alcohol taste that hits you up front then fades as it goes down. The mouthfeel is decent also. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is an interesting beer. I like sweet beers, but this takes it a little too far. It's an easy drinker even at 7.5% abv. . I didn't hate this beer, but I wouldn't buy it again.

Photo of nomad
3.73/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From that fist-size bottle, a deep brown beer with requisite cocoa head, though fairly sustainable. Surprising nice speckled lace rings my snifter glass.

Smells vinous with strong notes of cherry and plum with a mix of alcohol and roast malts that build to an almost spicy impression of cinnamon and ginger. Opens to a sweetly malt backing with specks of dark and raspy chocolate.

Taste is largely fruity with a calm pale malt center and a slightly dark finish of bare roastiness and espresso tart-and-bitter flicks. Just like its aroma, the flavor opens to much sweeter expressions and a reminder of those ineffable baking spices on the nose.

A little thin on the mouth but balanced in flavors. Not the most punishingly roasty stout but far from lacking in dynamics. I think bottle conditioning would greatly help its storage as well as development of complexity. Regardless, a good beer - so what's the beef people? Knee jerk reaction to a Jamaican vacation? Are most bottles getting baked by Carribean heat to sugary flatness?

Photo of aforbes10
2.98/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Had this in Jamaica. Nice head on it after pouring that stuck around for a while. Smooth and soft in the mouth. Tasted like honey and chocolate. Didn't want more than one but probably only because it was hot and it's hard to drink a stout on a hot beach.

Photo of Gagnonsux
3.53/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dragon Stout is colored black with an average-sized head that is creamy and light brown. The retention is very weak. The aroma is pretty weak and contains only a vague, sweet roastiness. The taste is sweet, with malts that have a brown sugar-like taste. A mild roastiness is noted underneath. Towards the finish a mixture of dark fruit flavor and alcohol join the mix. The overall flavors are pretty good, but seem a bit underwhelming for a 7.5% abv stout. There a plenty of better choices than this beer, you need only pick this up if you're stuck in Jamaica.

Photo of trevorwideman
2.48/5  rDev -28.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

300 ML bottle bought at the LC.

Dark dark chocolatey thick pour. The head is also nice and brown looking, although it dosen't stay around for long, and ends up looking a bit weak.

Smell is sweet and a bit cloying. Only a hint of dark chocolatey goodness.
One sip and...wow..is this ever a sweet beer. May need a dentist visit after this one.... More hoppy than I thought, and it has a much less syrupy feel than what it poured like. Alcohol isn't hidden much, and has a very creamy mouthfeel. I just can't get over how sweet this beer is, it's a bit of a turnoff for me. I like a slight sweetness, but... A bit thin in the mouth too. For some people this would be highly quaffable, me, I just get a toothache...

Photo of Naes
2.55/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Another beer that is black in color with a small tan head.

Aroma is malty, a bit spicy and contains traces of alcohol.

The flavor is a bit creamy followed by maltiness then alcohol taste.

Its mouth feel is medium bodied and a bit syrupy.

It’s also a bit low on the drinkability scale. It is not a very pleasing flavor in my opinion, but if you like creamy / sweet stouts with 7.5% ABV, go nuts.

Photo of wl0307
3.48/5  rDev 0%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

BBE date March 06. This beer pours an opaque, nearly black hue with a fast-disappearing brownish head. On the nose, the mixed aroma has roated malts, black-plum's tartly sweetness, slightly sweet-chocolatey note, an implicit caramel flavour, against a mildly perfumy hoppy backdrop. The taste is sweetish, roasted-malty with relatively high alcoholic feel to it, followed by a tinge of sweet note of ripe black-fruits at the back. Pretty straight-forward roasted-malty and slightly toffeeish sweet in the aftertaste, with a very mild, refreshing bitter kick-back. The mouthfeel is quite soft but overall too sweet and the body is overly thin (at times even watery) for a Stout. Would need to think twice before buying and trying this beer again.

Photo of canucklehead
3.55/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had one of these at the excellent Reef restaurant in vancouver and I must say that it would be great if this beer was readily available at our liqour stores. The beer pours jet black with a decent tan head. The nose is toffeish with caramel malts. The first taste was slightly metallic but that blew off after 4 or 5 sips. The beer has a solid mid body with a slightly sweet finish. I like this stout but the Trinidadian Royal extra gets the nod.

Photo of Hibernator
3.9/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A friend in NYC just happened to have a couple of these in his fridge during a recent visit. It's been a few years since I've had this stout and all of my memories are fond. The 7.5% ABV has always been a motivating factor in this beer's appeal.

284 ml bottle served in a glass. It pours a dark jet black color with a nice light brown colored head.

Whiffs of roasted malt and sugary sweetness.

A very smooth and sugary mouthfeel. Sugar cane reference is all over this. Makes me think of rum. Not in alcohol by any means, but in the sugary sweet trait. The alcohol in this beer is very well hidden. Major flavors of dark roasted coffee beans and liquid sugar.

This is one solid foreign stout that borders a cream stout in many respects. Nice drinkability and a pure joy to drink. This could easily be one dangerous session strong stout.

Photo of HappyHourHero
4.03/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Short lived, foamy, dark cocoa colored head. Opaque oil colored beer. Toasted malt aroma. Rich, roasted malt flavor, a bit of cocoa, mildly sweet. Becomes a bit drier towards the end, but the sweet malt lingers. Very drinkable 7/5% beer, even on a hot Jamaican evening.

Photo of CAMRAhardliner
3.68/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an opaque black with a big long lasting tan head that leaves a patchwork of lace. The aroma is of mollasses, cocoa, and cane sugar. The taste is very sweet with very little roastyness, or even chocolate flavor. The finish is treacly and one dimensional. The mouthfeel is thick and syrupy with minimal carbonation. The drinkability of this beer is hurt by its strong sweetness. Still a decent stout though.

Photo of baiser
3.9/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured deep black, with a dark tan head with reddish hints. Good lacing. Aroma of sweet roasted malt, coffee, prunes.

Taste was very sweet. Caramel, coffee, a fruitlike sourness, and alcohol in the back. Slight roastedness, body is medium and mouthfeel is smooth and carbonation is just right.

A decent stout from Jamaica.

Photo of Billolick
3.8/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Smallish bottle, pours black with a dark tan tiny bubble head with decent retention. Roasted malty nose. Roasted malts, chocolate malts prominant, also licorish, dark chocolate, burnt fruit and vanilla. Smooth mouthfeel, heavy body. This brew is semi sweet and also warming. Exerts a chalky dryness in the finish. Nice sweet stout , worth a try.

Dragon Stout from Desnoes & Geddes Limited
80 out of 100 based on 398 ratings.