Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter - Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen

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Ratings: 230
Reviews: 59
rAvg: 4.45
pDev: 7.42%
Wants: 238
Gots: 75 | FT: 6
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Gueuze |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 12-16-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Thorpe429
4.92/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Served side by side with the other three Armand'4 variants on is New Year's Eve. Served in a Drie Fonteinen tumbler.

Pours a light copper color with a huge white head and loads of lacing. The nose brings a fairly heavy funk with strong earth. Almost an "imperial" version of the standard 3F geuze. Some acidity in the background. Flavor is intense as well. Really hits the funk notes. Perhaps the first of the bunch. Acidity is low. Light body and heavy carbonation. Über solid. Love this series. Thank you, Armand. Boom.

Photo of sweemzander
4.78/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a tulip glass. Bottled in 2010
(A) - Pours a lovely golden straw yellow color with a nice fluffy white head with surprising retention.
(S)- Some awesome straw and barnyard funk meets lemon peel and a light slightly cheesy lactic acid component. Very earthy and welcoming.
(T)- Deep citrus of lemon peel with a soft acidity and plenty of straw-like funk sets the stage for a surprisingly soft body that balances the funk and sourness quite well
(M)- A superb carbonation level. The soft acidity in conjunction with a balanced yet complex funky profile really makes this one and easy drinker. Slightly sharp, but never overpowering.
(O)- First time having this one and it is superb. Each and every one of these seasonal geuzes are dynamic, complex, yet perfectly balanced. Should have bought more

Photo of EdKing
4.71/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Bottle shared with Josh (Maneliquor) at CBC Islington at Bruce’s birthday. Nice rich looking bright amber, huge white foam head in the glass which slowly dissipates to thin. Nose is probably the most beautiful gueuze I’ve tasted. I could just sit and smell this all day. It’s big sour, acidic, lots of horse blanket and funk, caramel, green apples, very tangy. Deep rich aromas. Taste is slightly more restrained but still a complex and full flavoured limbic. Green apples, sour, acidic, lots of funk and horse blanket, yeasty, grainy malt. Balance is about as good as it gets. Phenomenal beer.

Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.65/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Dan for this one. 750ml corked and caged bottle into a Cantillon Zwanze Day stemware. Shared with schen9303.

Pours a big, fluffy 4 finger frothy light cream colored head with great retention. Beer is a slightly cloudy dark orange/bronze. Lacing is patchy and thick with moderate cling. A great looking beer.

Nose is crazy aromatic. Rotting, acidic hay, wet wood, cheesy funk, lemon, and tart citrus fruit. Grassy. Real dank and musty. Incredible.

Opens tart. Apricot and citrus. Wet wood, cheesy funk, lemon tartness, and grass. Dried hay in the back tickles the tongue. Cobwebs and grassiness. Real carbonated and prickly. A very light peppery presence right at the end. Aftertaste of tart wet wood. Very good.

Light bodied with moderate to ample carbonation. Prickly and aggressive in the mouth and dry going down. Finishes dry with a lingering, sticky, puckering aftertaste. Nearly perfect.

Easily one of the best gueuzes I've ever come across and on par with the other Armand series beers. This will age with the best of them and I can't wait to see how it mellows out and what other flavors might evolve and develop.

Photo of bashiba
4.64/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a nice hazy golden orange with a thick and rocky white head.

Great nose, big and balsamic with a nice oaky head.

The flavor has a big bready and tart flavor up front. Very woody and oaky with a very clean herbal finish.

The mouthfeel is very long and dry.

Very nicely drinkable, great gueze.

Photo of Etan
4.63/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared side-by-side with Herfst by Willcarrera and Agold. Poured from a 750ml into a tulip.

A: Pours a darkish, murky gold with a nice tower of white foam. Great lacing.

S: Earthy funk and mildly fruity sourness in the nose. Gets a little more spicy and herbal as it warms.

T: Moderately sour with a good lactic base. Apricot, earthy mushroom, garlic, wet leaf. Much more funky and a little more complex than Herfst. Sweetness and a tiny bit of citric hoppiness comes out as it warms. Hay, grain, and more wet funk in the finish.

M: Perfect mouthfeel for a geuze. Sort of light with lively but not overpowering carbonation.

O: This was my favorite of the two. A bit more funky and complex. Thanks A and Will for the chance to try these fantastic blends.

Photo of WillCarrera
4.6/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

750 ml bottle, from box number 187/500, poured into a tulip. Drank this side-by-side with Herfst.

A- Pours a golden color with a few fingers of fluffy white head, leaves great lacing.

S- Very funky, has some citrus and fruit, as it warms up some herbal spiciness emerges.

T- Nice bracing tartness, some citrus, funk is earthy and as it warms up becomes herbal. Finish is bitter and tannic, with more notes of herbs and hay.

M- Medium-bodied, smooth and very creamy.

O- A really awesome gueuze. I liked this one more than Herfst, I've never had such an herbal gueuze before but it works really well and is sort of reminiscent of the idea of winter.

Photo of illidurit
4.59/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared at the RateBeer Gallery event in San Francisco. Pours orange with a light khaki head. Lovely aroma of meyer lemons, perfumey citrus, limes, chlorine, brett. Lemon and nectarine notes in flavor, sour stone fruit pits, absolutely divine all around.

Photo of hooliganlife
4.58/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

pour was a hazy golden orange, lovely white head, and bright colorful body.

very bright and colorful lemon and oak. vivid cheesy funk. i really tried hard to pick out what armand was going for here in his attempt to depict winter. the bright sharpness reminded me of old winter air.

flavor was very similar, very bright and vivid with sharp tart and our lemon. very dry oak and old musty malt to balance it all out.

mild to moderate carbonation and very dry and "cold".

only had about 2-3 ounces so i have a hard time really rating this against the others. i would have to say i still rate lente and herfst the best, this is about on level with zomer. still, simply amazing.

Photo of cpetrone84
4.58/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

pour is dark golden orange with tons of bubbly white head. The nose has some dustiness to it then some of the others with a nice cheese rind and juicy peach and apricot. The taste is juicier than the nose an lighter in the brett and cheese department. Some dry dusty Brett sets in mid to back palate with the juicy apricots behind. The body is a touch syrupy with a nice carbonation and light body. Interesting fruit component, strongest of the three (had next to zomer and lente).

Photo of mdfb79
4.57/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Sour Tasting. All 4 Armand'4 series beers were sampled side by side.

a - Pours a murky dark golden color with two inches of white head and moderate carbonation evident. Looks like the rest of them.

s - Smells of sour fruits, light funk, citrus, earthy notes, acidic.

t - Tastes of sour fruits, earthy notes, floral, notes, yeast, light funk, light space.

m - Medium body and moderate to high carbonation. Very easy to drink, like the rest of them.

o - Overall another fantastic gueuze in the Armand'4 series. I would rank them Lente, Zomer, Winter, than Herfst personally, but they are all winners.

Photo of JAXSON
4.55/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a bright peach orange, very lightly hazed, with an ever rising white head. As with the other Armand'4 bottles, the nose is super juicy, bright, citric, hay, grass. Mouth is quite sour and super dry up front, more dry than I remember Lente or Zomer. Signature wet pavement and mineral in that dry part of the palate. Oak and brett swell up on the back palate, along with a distinct lime juice on the finish. Interesting, way more mineral and citrus forward than the others I've had of this series. Carbonation is very sharp, feel is not unlike a very dry champagne.

When I open a special bottle like this recently I tend to drink it alongside a more commonplace beer in the same style. I opened a 2010 Girardin Black Label tonight to drink next to the Winter. The Girardin is an older blend which is evident, the feel is much softer. Main difference on the flavor profile is the back palate on the Winter really swelling up with tons of citrus, where the Girardin is softer and more balanced throughout. The Armand'4 Winter is an aggressive blend, complex, bright, I love the feel of it. Trying to be completely objective, the Winter beats this batch of Girardin easily, mostly in being so pronounced and complex in everything in does, as opposed to balanced and soft.

Photo of jethrodium
4.54/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle. Pours a clear golden copper with a small white head that has good retention and leaves a decent amount of lacing on the glass. The aroma is funky and earthy. There is lemon, apricot, tons of earthy funkiness, and some mushroom. The initial taste has a bit of sweetness and is a bit tart. The taste has some lemon, apricot, and grapefruit, an earthy funkiness, and some mushroom. The finish is earthy with a decent tartness. Medium body. Medium carbonation. This is just another great beer. It isn't as good as lente, but is still amazing. It could use a touch less sweetness and doesn't have the amazing fluffy mouthfeel that lente does, but it is still great.

Photo of drabmuh
4.53/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle poured into a Drie Fonteinen gueuze tumbler from the bottle on Christmas eve 2011, this is how I celebrate.

Beer is a little bit of a gusher, so beware. Beer is orangish, amber, hazy with a huge meringue head, lots of staying power, lots of lacing, high retention, stiff peaks in the head, at first the glass consisted mostly of head with little liquid but the liquid emerged slowly, revealing the high carbonated, aggressive looking beer, very awesome.

Aroma is strong, lemon, grass, lots of oak in this one, a little sulfur on the back end, the lactic seems subdued and the acetic is nearly absent, the level of "funk" / musty / mildew in this beer is higher than the other four, smells great.

The carbonic acid burns a little, as the aggressive carbonation runs over your palate, finishing quite dry with this strong basement woodiness on the end. By far the most oak in any of them so far. The forward of the beer is very earthy, a mild sulfur / rubber flavor jumps out at me early on and the finish is really nice. Overall, another huge winner in this series. One of my favorites of the group for sure. I think Zomer was the winner though. I love them all.

Photo of kevanb
4.51/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle poured into a Drie Fonteinen fountain tumbler glass. Enjoyed on 12.6.14, reviewed from Tasting Journal.


The beer pours a darker orange color, amber hues, hazy and cloudy with a nice finger plus of white head that has great retention and yields nice swatches of soapy lace. The aroma is really funky, plenty of wheat, lightly spiced, a nice dose of citrus with some bitter aged hops, earthy and floral, balanced with nice complexity. The flavors match well, lots of citrus, funk, wheat, bitter aged hops, definitely the most hop forward of the gueuzes, wildflower and pine come with it, a bit of a spice note that compliments the more earthy qualities of this beer. The mouthfeel is nice, crisp, lively, coating but prickly with very ample carbonation that still manages to finish easily.

Verdict: Well, yet again, Armand makes a great gueuze. Perhaps the least representative of the season, but with the almost piney and spicy character, I can almost envision a snowy winter scene, but I'll admit it's a reach. That being said, this beer is balanced super well, offers great complexity and cements itself as a world class gueuze, though easily overshadowed by the rest of the set.

Photo of jvillefan
4.51/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: The body is a dark yellow almost orange color with a quickly disappearing lacing of head that was an off white color.

S: Quintessential gueuze. It has the funk that gueuzes have along with a very earthy aroma. There was subtle citrus to go along with everything else.

T: Very crisp to start out. There was a pleasent souring along with some tart. The citrus flavors in the aroma match the flavors. Earth tones come in and finish the flavor off in a very pleasant way.

M: A little thin but to be expected from a gueuze. The carbonation bit was perfect.

O: A very well done gueuze. The dry finish makes this one of the best I've had to date.

Photo of stakem
4.5/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I contributed this bottle at a recent geuze tasting so all 4 of the seasons could be sampled back to back. Thanks to FooFaa for hosting and providing the rest of the "set."

Poured into a stemmed tasting glass, the brew appears a hazed copper with a finger of off-white head. As the cap fades, it leaves some patchy lace. A light swirl revives a finger of froth that retains quite well.

The smell of this brew is oaky with hints of must and cork akin to their other offerings. There is a grain inclusion that is straw-like, lightly reminiscent of barnyard hay/funk. As it warms up, some stinky cheese notes come out as well as a bit of sulfur.

The taste is mutually oaky as the aroma leads on. There is a hint of must and moist almost mildew like barrel inclusion. There is a bit of hoppy bitterness present that I didn't detect in the other blends, not bad by any stretch, just a little unique. The aftertaste includes some straw-like grain inclusion just like the aroma hints towards.

This is a medium bodied brew with lots of carbonation however the feel is spot on and I wouldn't change a thing about it. This brew is a bit sharp around the edges from the tartness but with seemingly no alcohol inclusion. This is another winner in the Armand series.

Photo of Slatetank
4.5/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

thanks to whoever shared this -I am guessing stakem. enjoyed chilled in a cervoise.

The color is medium amber with a light haze and thick 2 finger cream with tight bead, lace clings in a thick film. The smell is hay-like with wheat presence and spritely funk with it's jazzy light citric quality and mild toast with a lot of herbal hop presence and notes of lemon rind. The feel has a lot of citrus too with mild acedtic tinge and bitter element which i assume is hop derived with a mild drying astringency as it finishes.

The taste is aggressive and full of juicy sourness with a semi-dry malt w/ cracker like flavor and slightly spicy quality with a light grassy element. The complexity is there with a mild woody, peppery taste and bitter tinges in the background. The light lemony flavor is a nice augmenting element and returns in the finish with a nice subtle acidic taste. This is a bigger gueuze than most but has plenty to offer, one of the best of the seasonal series and was very drinkable from first sip to last, lots of aggressive flavors Thanks again Adam for sharing!

Photo of Agold
4.5/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

'This beer has a bit of a looser head than the herfst. Some nice lacing. Aroma is Funky woody citrus mildly sweet round tart. More cobwebby and musty. Flavor has a lot of rind pretty fruity sour with a touch of lactic vinegar. Very smooth flavors and very well integrated. Noticed some light maybe tropical note. Mouthfeel is effervescent and light with nice fine carbonation. Very extraordinary beer.

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.5/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Opened this up tonight because...well, it seemed like it needed opening.

The beer is golden orange with a thick, white head. The aroma offers classic 3F funk with some dank basement, barnyard, citrus, and classic gueze scents. The flavor is citrusy, sour, funky. Lasting sour funk on the palate. Another winner from Armand. Although this perhaps my least favorite of the series, it is nonetheless a phenomenal beer. Highly recommended.

Photo of Dreadnaught33
4.5/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

"this beer smells like my farts after I eat brazil nuts"- my friend Dave right when we open this beer.

Bottle shared thanks to Huhzubendah, thanks Matt!

The beer pours a great hazy orange with a semi fluffy white ring of head, some lacing.

The smell has that amazing dry funk that only drie Fontenein can produce, just so mouth watering. Some nice light fruit smells and wild yeast, great.

The taste follows the smell, with a nice dry funkiness and a mix of light skinned fruits and great semi sweet malt base. White grape cocktail, some citrus as well definitely plenty of lemon.

The feel is great, almost perfect with a bone dry finish and get carbonation.

Overall an outstanding beer once again in this series.

Photo of Thehuntmaster
4.48/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle 6,0% Abv.
Served chilled in an over sized wine glass.
Reviewed from rather old notes.

Appearance: Winter might just be the darkest geuze I have had, appearing a moderately hazed deep orange (verging on amber) in the glass. A rough pour yields a massive off white head that lasts very well for a sour and coats the glass in thick rings of lacing as it recedes.

Smell: As with the rest of the beers in the series Winter smells fantastic, though somewhat different from from what I had expected. The nose combines a very earthy funk profile (dry corn husk, old hay, dust, old leaves, musty basement and a little mushroom), with tart fruits (lemon and apricot), a fair amount of oak and a surprising underlying sweetness.
As the beer warms, a sweeter orange note emerges as well as a musty herbal quality.

Taste: The flavour is quite a lot tarter than I expected given the nose and offers decent amounts of lemon and apricot, as well as just a hint acidic cider vinegar. Other notes include: A fair amount of oak, dry grass, old leaves, some sweeter fruit notes (orange and peach), a touch of mushroom, old wood and musty basement.

Mouthfeel: The body is light-medium, with an exceptionally high level of carbonation.

Overall: Another delicious beer in the Armand '4 series - I will have to get another bottle or two to put in the cellar.

Photo of gueuzedreg
4.48/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Opened on a fridgid day.

A- Dark cider hue. Pours a very thick head, probably 4 fingers in a snifter. Retention is pretty good leaving 1/2 finger head after one minute with glue like legs to the glass.

S- Definitely more earthy malt coming out of this compared with Lente. More hay, etc. Lots of funk.

T- Going along with the S, less citrus and more of an earthy funk. Great to follow with the seasons.

M- Medium body, but lots of carb. Probably the weak point if there is one for this brew.

O- Very good gueuze. Love it.

Photo of Stevedore
4.46/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle from the Armand'4 set; generously contributed by Doug. Poured into an unlabeled snifter today, 12/8/2013.

Review #323.

Pours a hazy light brown-orange body, very effervescent with large volumes of fluffy white head that retains quite well. Not much lacing is left on these, and this beer eventually lost carbonation over the course of a half hour becoming a quite placid beer.

Smells phenomenal. Of the 3 non-Lente Seasons we had, this smelled by far the most intense and most peppery. It makes my brain yell freshly ground peppercorns, along with a nice tannic oak and a decent bit of funk. Very complex and intense, easily the best of the night. It holds the nose very well, even after the rest of the beer goes downhill as it warms up.

This was crisp, refreshing but not particularly complex. It's especially peppery and it does start out quite funky, earthy and tannic, but as the beer warms up, it simply loses whatever oomph it had. I see why this is the lowest rated of all the 4, but I maintain it is better than 99% of the geuzes out there.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, great carbonation at first. But, as it warms up, it simply loses all the carbonation and becomes flat. I've never had a geuze do that to me before, but that's what happened to it. Still, at first it's very crisp, dry and refreshing with a nice end-palate of peppercorn and earthy funk.

Even though we can all agree this is the least of the Seasons, this is still a fantastic geuze that is worth trying at least once. At the very least, it presents a different kind of flavour and nose than the others.

Re-review: Drank alongside the other 3 Seasons on 3/30/2015. Served in a 3F stemmed glass. It still smells fantastic and rivals Lente and Zomer in terms of the nose. Quite a bit of flavour, even if a bit subtle. However, as it warms up, the flavour profile falls off quite a bit. Not disappointing at all nevertheless. Still drinking well but I don't anticipate it getting better with age.

Photo of woosterbill
4.43/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle into a 3F wine glass, enjoyed at the brewery tasting room. Good times. Much like my last visit to 3F, this bottle (and others) was shared with a new friend - cheers to BA warnerry!

A: Clear orange-amber body crested by a tremendous, majestic tan head. Amazing retention, nice frothy lace. Perfect.

S: Crazy funky, with lots of feet, pumpkin, barnyard, urea, dirt, grass, cheese, and flint. Light acidity. Excellently disgusting.

T: Barnyard, mushroom, lemon, and distinct grapefruit on the long, dry aftertaste. Soem green apple hoppiness, some uric acid (but in a good way, I swear), and some hay. As it warms it becomes heavier and very pumpkin-forward. It's excellent, but I'd like more earthiness and depth of funk like the nose suggested.

M: Soft, fairly light body with matching carbonation. A little weak, actually - it doesn't match the heaviness of the flavors.

O: This was completely unlike the Lente we drank alongside it (the Lente was sheer perfection, as always), and struck me as being both heavier and funkier than the rest of the series. It reminded more of Doesjel than the other Armand'4s, but that wasn't entirely a bad thing. It was fascinating to note the differences between the first and last beers in this most amazing series. Winter was definitely my least favorite (I'd say Lente>Herfst>Zomer>Winter), but it was still one of the best beers I've ever had.

Cheers!

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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter from Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen
98 out of 100 based on 230 ratings.