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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter - Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen

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Reviews: 61
Hads: 236
rAvg: 4.3
pDev: 9.07%
Wants: 240
Gots: 77 | FT: 6
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Gueuze |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 12-16-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of cultclassic89
4.94/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Winter was pretty interesting. It started out with a weird nose, kind of alcoholic, but as it opened up it became incredible. I had it at #4 in the set at first, still not sure where I have it at now.

Very similar to Herfst, a bit darker than the first two season in flavor, very well balanced. (296 characters)

Photo of sjccmd
4.95/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Aroma of oranges, bright acidity, earthy funk, and surprisingly nutty toffee. Quite interesting and complex. Slightly cheesy, some acetic notes. Graham cracker, lots of oak character. Strawberries, grassy, honey, mushrooms, and tea. Woof.

Hazy orange with an off-white head that has surprisingly good retention. Not too much lacing.

Tart but happily not heavy on acetic acid. Apples and berries. Acidity is sharp initially but doesn't stick on the back of the tongue or cheeks. Almonds and wheat come in on the finish. Surprisingly very fresh tasting on the palate. Lots of oak. Lemon and hay. Funk reminiscent of pu erh tea. It only gets better as it warms.

Acidity fills the mouth but finishes relatively clean with lingering woody notes on the palate. High carbonation with medium light body. Lots of depth.

I haven't had a gueuze quite like this. I had a Herfst not too long ago that was a bit too heavy on the acetic acid. Not this. Plenty tart for sure, but very nice yogurt-y lactic acid. Age has served this beer quite well. (1,037 characters)

Photo of kevanb
4.51/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle poured into a Drie Fonteinen fountain tumbler glass. Enjoyed on 12.6.14, reviewed from Tasting Journal.


The beer pours a darker orange color, amber hues, hazy and cloudy with a nice finger plus of white head that has great retention and yields nice swatches of soapy lace. The aroma is really funky, plenty of wheat, lightly spiced, a nice dose of citrus with some bitter aged hops, earthy and floral, balanced with nice complexity. The flavors match well, lots of citrus, funk, wheat, bitter aged hops, definitely the most hop forward of the gueuzes, wildflower and pine come with it, a bit of a spice note that compliments the more earthy qualities of this beer. The mouthfeel is nice, crisp, lively, coating but prickly with very ample carbonation that still manages to finish easily.

Verdict: Well, yet again, Armand makes a great gueuze. Perhaps the least representative of the season, but with the almost piney and spicy character, I can almost envision a snowy winter scene, but I'll admit it's a reach. That being said, this beer is balanced super well, offers great complexity and cements itself as a world class gueuze, though easily overshadowed by the rest of the set. (1,197 characters)

Photo of sweemzander
4.78/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a tulip glass. Bottled in 2010
(A) - Pours a lovely golden straw yellow color with a nice fluffy white head with surprising retention.
(S)- Some awesome straw and barnyard funk meets lemon peel and a light slightly cheesy lactic acid component. Very earthy and welcoming.
(T)- Deep citrus of lemon peel with a soft acidity and plenty of straw-like funk sets the stage for a surprisingly soft body that balances the funk and sourness quite well
(M)- A superb carbonation level. The soft acidity in conjunction with a balanced yet complex funky profile really makes this one and easy drinker. Slightly sharp, but never overpowering.
(O)- First time having this one and it is superb. Each and every one of these seasonal geuzes are dynamic, complex, yet perfectly balanced. Should have bought more (836 characters)

Photo of EdKing
4.71/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Bottle shared with Josh (Maneliquor) at CBC Islington at Bruce’s birthday. Nice rich looking bright amber, huge white foam head in the glass which slowly dissipates to thin. Nose is probably the most beautiful gueuze I’ve tasted. I could just sit and smell this all day. It’s big sour, acidic, lots of horse blanket and funk, caramel, green apples, very tangy. Deep rich aromas. Taste is slightly more restrained but still a complex and full flavoured limbic. Green apples, sour, acidic, lots of funk and horse blanket, yeasty, grainy malt. Balance is about as good as it gets. Phenomenal beer. (600 characters)

Photo of Jonada
4.33/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First review of 2014

Presentation: 750 ml bottled 4/22/2010. Best before 4/2020. Poured into a Cantillon stemmed glass. Cork removed with relative ease, but did not shoot out, and the bottle was not a gusher as has been reported with some of these.

Appearance: Pours a dark sunset orange color with 2+ fingers of an eggshell colored head. Great retention and lots of lacing. Body is very hazy with tons of visible carbonation streaming throughout the glass.

Smell: Barnyard funk, horseblanket, rotting fruit, green apple, basement, orange, hay. Super funky and inviting.

Taste: Tart, funky and sour all the way through to the finish. Orchard fruit, lemon, earthy, herbal with a noticeable malt character that provides a slight sweetness.

Mouthfeel: Medium/light bodied, slightly creamy mouthfeel. Carbonation is high but works for the style. Finishes dry.

Overall: As with the other Armand'4 beers this is a world glass gueuze. To me this is the most "different" beer in the series, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Put aside the fact that this is part of a set, and this is worth seeking out on it's own. (1,121 characters)

Photo of Stevedore
4.46/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle from the Armand'4 set; generously contributed by Doug. Poured into an unlabeled snifter today, 12/8/2013.

Review #323.

Pours a hazy light brown-orange body, very effervescent with large volumes of fluffy white head that retains quite well. Not much lacing is left on these, and this beer eventually lost carbonation over the course of a half hour becoming a quite placid beer.

Smells phenomenal. Of the 3 non-Lente Seasons we had, this smelled by far the most intense and most peppery. It makes my brain yell freshly ground peppercorns, along with a nice tannic oak and a decent bit of funk. Very complex and intense, easily the best of the night. It holds the nose very well, even after the rest of the beer goes downhill as it warms up.

This was crisp, refreshing but not particularly complex. It's especially peppery and it does start out quite funky, earthy and tannic, but as the beer warms up, it simply loses whatever oomph it had. I see why this is the lowest rated of all the 4, but I maintain it is better than 99% of the geuzes out there.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, great carbonation at first. But, as it warms up, it simply loses all the carbonation and becomes flat. I've never had a geuze do that to me before, but that's what happened to it. Still, at first it's very crisp, dry and refreshing with a nice end-palate of peppercorn and earthy funk.

Even though we can all agree this is the least of the Seasons, this is still a fantastic geuze that is worth trying at least once. At the very least, it presents a different kind of flavour and nose than the others.

Re-review: Drank alongside the other 3 Seasons on 3/30/2015. Served in a 3F stemmed glass. It still smells fantastic and rivals Lente and Zomer in terms of the nose. Quite a bit of flavour, even if a bit subtle. However, as it warms up, the flavour profile falls off quite a bit. Not disappointing at all nevertheless. Still drinking well but I don't anticipate it getting better with age. (1,990 characters)

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.29/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottle opened on 8.20.13

A - Pours a murky, very light brown with a huge cream-colored head that never fades.

S - Very, very funky, lots of woody, slightly citrus, and tons of horseblanket funk.

T - Funky, wood-very earthy and dirty.

D - Dry, Good carbonation with a light body.

O - Very funky and dry, but not overly complex. Still stellar, but not as good as the other seasons in my opinion. (398 characters)

Photo of Thehuntmaster
4.48/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle 6,0% Abv.
Served chilled in an over sized wine glass.
Reviewed from rather old notes.

Appearance: Winter might just be the darkest geuze I have had, appearing a moderately hazed deep orange (verging on amber) in the glass. A rough pour yields a massive off white head that lasts very well for a sour and coats the glass in thick rings of lacing as it recedes.

Smell: As with the rest of the beers in the series Winter smells fantastic, though somewhat different from from what I had expected. The nose combines a very earthy funk profile (dry corn husk, old hay, dust, old leaves, musty basement and a little mushroom), with tart fruits (lemon and apricot), a fair amount of oak and a surprising underlying sweetness.
As the beer warms, a sweeter orange note emerges as well as a musty herbal quality.

Taste: The flavour is quite a lot tarter than I expected given the nose and offers decent amounts of lemon and apricot, as well as just a hint acidic cider vinegar. Other notes include: A fair amount of oak, dry grass, old leaves, some sweeter fruit notes (orange and peach), a touch of mushroom, old wood and musty basement.

Mouthfeel: The body is light-medium, with an exceptionally high level of carbonation.

Overall: Another delicious beer in the Armand '4 series - I will have to get another bottle or two to put in the cellar. (1,359 characters)

Photo of illidurit
4.59/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared at the RateBeer Gallery event in San Francisco. Pours orange with a light khaki head. Lovely aroma of meyer lemons, perfumey citrus, limes, chlorine, brett. Lemon and nectarine notes in flavor, sour stone fruit pits, absolutely divine all around. (260 characters)

Photo of KickInTheChalice
4.18/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

From notes. Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a tulip. Compared with Lente, Zomer, and Herfst side by side.

Winter is a little bit lighter than the others of the series, still with a nice bubbly carbonation on the pour that rests gently as a small cap for the duration of the glass.

The aroma has a much stronger earthy and musty aroma than the other three. There are notes of mushrooms and funky cheese to go along with a tart lemon character and a bit of hay.

The flavor really follows the aroma. There is actually a bit of sweetness up front, with the tartness taking its time to come in. The flavor is more earthy and mellow, with lemon zest providing more support and balance than a true dominating flavor. Winter is definitely less fruity than the other seasons as well.

The body is slightly lighter than the other seasons, with a creamy and smooth carbonation that matches what I have seen from the other three. It is also fairly dry, with a fairly strong oak presence.

Even though I did not prefer Winter to the others of the series, this is still a strong offering. (1,078 characters)

Photo of gueuzedreg
4.48/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Opened on a fridgid day.

A- Dark cider hue. Pours a very thick head, probably 4 fingers in a snifter. Retention is pretty good leaving 1/2 finger head after one minute with glue like legs to the glass.

S- Definitely more earthy malt coming out of this compared with Lente. More hay, etc. Lots of funk.

T- Going along with the S, less citrus and more of an earthy funk. Great to follow with the seasons.

M- Medium body, but lots of carb. Probably the weak point if there is one for this brew.

O- Very good gueuze. Love it. (530 characters)

Photo of SpeedwayJim
4.65/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Dan for this one. 750ml corked and caged bottle into a Cantillon Zwanze Day stemware. Shared with schen9303.

Pours a big, fluffy 4 finger frothy light cream colored head with great retention. Beer is a slightly cloudy dark orange/bronze. Lacing is patchy and thick with moderate cling. A great looking beer.

Nose is crazy aromatic. Rotting, acidic hay, wet wood, cheesy funk, lemon, and tart citrus fruit. Grassy. Real dank and musty. Incredible.

Opens tart. Apricot and citrus. Wet wood, cheesy funk, lemon tartness, and grass. Dried hay in the back tickles the tongue. Cobwebs and grassiness. Real carbonated and prickly. A very light peppery presence right at the end. Aftertaste of tart wet wood. Very good.

Light bodied with moderate to ample carbonation. Prickly and aggressive in the mouth and dry going down. Finishes dry with a lingering, sticky, puckering aftertaste. Nearly perfect.

Easily one of the best gueuzes I've ever come across and on par with the other Armand series beers. This will age with the best of them and I can't wait to see how it mellows out and what other flavors might evolve and develop. (1,138 characters)

Photo of jvillefan
4.51/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: The body is a dark yellow almost orange color with a quickly disappearing lacing of head that was an off white color.

S: Quintessential gueuze. It has the funk that gueuzes have along with a very earthy aroma. There was subtle citrus to go along with everything else.

T: Very crisp to start out. There was a pleasent souring along with some tart. The citrus flavors in the aroma match the flavors. Earth tones come in and finish the flavor off in a very pleasant way.

M: A little thin but to be expected from a gueuze. The carbonation bit was perfect.

O: A very well done gueuze. The dry finish makes this one of the best I've had to date. (647 characters)

Photo of rudzud
3.66/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Shared with JLindros and company at the last whale tasting. Reviewed from notes

A - Poured into my Kate the Great tulip a hazy orange hue with a one finger head that leaves some nice light lacing.

S - Deep forest here, earth, but then... light rubber and leather. Really not a fan of the rubber tree thing going on here.

T - Taste is same as the nose. Nice lightly sour and faint funk. Some hay and then it finishes with burnt rubber tones. Really disrupts whats going on with this beer.

M - Mouthfeel is good. Lightly tart though on the thinner side.

O - Overall, not a bad beer, but not sure if its age or handling or what but that burnt rubber really kills this. Doesnt taste like one of Armand's best. (710 characters)

Photo of Tnudish
3.69/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Reviewed from notes. Tried side by side with the rest of the Armand’4s in early 2012.

A-Winter pours a cloudy/hazy amber orange in color with a moderate amount of off-white head.

S-The nose on winter differs from the other Armand’4 we’ve had, it is more perfume-like in my opinion. The funkiness is still there, but this is definitely perfumey in nature.

T-The difference from the other Armand’4s continues in the taste. This is sweeter in comparison to the other 3. It is noticeably less acidic, sour and doesn’t have as much funky punch to it as the others either.

M-Mouthfeel is light and creamy, with fizzy carbonation, light acidity, and a long finish.

O-This is definitely the weakest of the 4 Armands. I would be hard pressed to buy this for any reason other than completing the set. In my eyes, this is a sufficient drop off in quality from the other 3. (881 characters)

Photo of starrdogg
4.34/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours an orange-gold with a fluffy white head. It's much darker than your typical gueuze. Smell is really impressive, a fantastic mix of oak, funk, sour and a bit of cereal-like malt. Flavor is a bit of a letdown after the amazing aroma, it's quite good, but doesn't quite rise to the heights of Lente. It's not as complex as I thought it would be, but it's rather drinkable. It's sour and woody with a nice malt character, but it's lacking the funky depth I expected. Mouthfeel is light with high carbonation. Overall, this is a really nice gueuze but doesn't blow me away like some of 3F's have in the past. (609 characters)

Photo of FosterJM
4.17/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1653rd Review on BA
Bottle to Tulip
75cl

2010 Bottling
Thanks Jazz for landing me a bottle

Split with GuruDel

App- A very dark orange without a lot of highlighting colors behind it. Had a very small formation of bubbles and was gone quickly. Didnt leave any stick behind. Looks almost identical to Hefst.

Smell- A great smelling beer. Not on par with Lente but quite nice. Didnt have as much of the citrus on the nose but had a touch more tart behind it witout being overly done. The flavors seemed a bit thicker on this one.

Taste- A very well done beer. I enjoyed this for the full crisp slightly sour citrus flavors. This was a bit more full than the others and am adjusting as so. More

Mouth- A small light body almost a good solid medium with a lighter medium carbonation level. Wasnt a fresh and popping. Lacking a bit of pop on residual flavors.

Drink- A very well done beer. This series is really something magical. Glad I was able to try all 4 of them. (970 characters)

Photo of spdyfire83
4.17/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

302nd Review
75cl bottle poured into 3F geuze glass
Bottled: 22/04/2010
BB: April 2020

Winter is after Autumn; as such, I enjoyed these two beers in that order.

A: Medium amber. Only 5 (off-white) fingernail head on gentle pour. This one is carbonated too!

S: Earthy notes along with classic funk and must. Touch of hop character here as well.

T: Earthy hops with soft lemon, funk, and dull cracked hay. Crisp.

M: Light body with medium carbonation.

O: Nice and earthy beer. Very distinct and good. As mentioned in my review of Herfst, this bee could stand some age a bit. The earthiness grew on me a bit as the beer warmed, but this is the "worst" of the four of the "Four Seasons" series, IMO. Haha - laughable to say that, but one has to bring up the back. (766 characters)

Photo of JoEBoBpr
4.36/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a tulip glass from a 750ml bottle.

Pours a gorgeous deep orange/amber with some nice haze and some copper edges. A nice off-white medium dense head forms that is about 1.5 inch tall. Very sticky and good retention.

Aroma starts off with hay and corn husk notes. Some nice barnyard funk in there. There is some nice sharp tartness that come up quick but doesn't linger too long. Nice sour apple notes and some lemon with slight vinegar hints. More citrusy than vinegary. There is some nice grain notes in the nose as well.

Taste follows the nose. Nice hay and husky funk. Then some sharp citrusy acidity and tartness. There is some slight sugary and fruity sweetness that comes up. There is nice sour apple hints with some mild vinegar notes. Then more of the grainy notes mixed in with the yeasty funk. Nice and dry. Mouthfeel is dry and tart with some nice citrus notes. A dry and bubbly finish.

Great Gueuze! Tasty, with some nice funky notes and sourness mixed in with slight sweet notes. As it warms its very nice and the sour notes blend in very well with some slight fruity notes. (1,103 characters)

Photo of ArrogantB
4.3/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This was my second favorite of the Armand '4 series just behind Lente. Standard gueuze appearance, maybe a little orange. Smells like citrus rind, acid, old gueuze. Flavor is delicious old gueuze with note of honey and then followed by an acidic kick. Quite the top notch gueuze and these Armand '4 blends are a tastier selection than the standard gueuzes from 3F which are already superb. (389 characters)

Photo of scottfrie
3.92/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks again Jared. Snifter, reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a cloudy dark golden color beneath a very fizzy short lived head that really bubbled up after the pour. Spotty lace down the glass.
S: Light funk on the nose alongside sweeter fruit notes. I get hints of straw, must, shitty funk, and lemon zest.
T: Follows the nose with gueuze flavors of hay, straw, basement must, lemon zest, citrus pith, oak and some sweet lemon candy. Tastes like a lemon drop dropped in the dirt. Good citrus tartness.
M: Frothy mouth, drying mouth but not as bad as I remember the others being, with a smooth medium body. On the sweeter side but not crazy.
O: Aside from the bubbles this is another amazing gueuze, but not my favorite of the series. Thankfully not too sweet, dominate lemon profile. Thanks Jared. (800 characters)

Photo of Luk13
4.41/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

First Armand to crack. Beautiful dark amber with rocky head. Very dark for such a young lambic. Classic 3F funk with more fruits. Aroma is more tame than the regular 3F, very classy. Ireally like the taste with definite sour cherries along with the funk. Very sour but somewhat sweet reminiscent of cherries. Full bodied but a little drier. I prefer this one to the regular, I can't wait to taste the rest of the series. (420 characters)

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.5/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Opened this up tonight because...well, it seemed like it needed opening.

The beer is golden orange with a thick, white head. The aroma offers classic 3F funk with some dank basement, barnyard, citrus, and classic gueze scents. The flavor is citrusy, sour, funky. Lasting sour funk on the palate. Another winner from Armand. Although this perhaps my least favorite of the series, it is nonetheless a phenomenal beer. Highly recommended. (436 characters)

Photo of Dreadnaught33
4.5/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

"this beer smells like my farts after I eat brazil nuts"- my friend Dave right when we open this beer.

Bottle shared thanks to Huhzubendah, thanks Matt!

The beer pours a great hazy orange with a semi fluffy white ring of head, some lacing.

The smell has that amazing dry funk that only drie Fontenein can produce, just so mouth watering. Some nice light fruit smells and wild yeast, great.

The taste follows the smell, with a nice dry funkiness and a mix of light skinned fruits and great semi sweet malt base. White grape cocktail, some citrus as well definitely plenty of lemon.

The feel is great, almost perfect with a bone dry finish and get carbonation.

Overall an outstanding beer once again in this series. (722 characters)

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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter from Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen
94 out of 100 based on 61 ratings.