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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter - Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen

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Reviews: 61
Hads: 234
rAvg: 4.3
pDev: 4.65%
Wants: 240
Gots: 77 | FT: 6
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Gueuze |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 12-16-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of TurdFurgison
2.56/5  rDev -40.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle graciously shared by dudeabide (thanks Nate!). Sampled side by side with the Lente and the Zomer. The winter suffered a bit by comparison, I'm sorry to say. I suspect this was just a bad bottle, but then again it costs a lot so it deserves whatever rating it gets.

Pours darker than its brethren, a light-medium copper with a solid several fingers of foam. It has a very OFF aroma at first, difficult to appreciate. Infection? Whatever, the aroma improves after 10 minutes of air time (while I focused on the Zomer).

Eventually drinkable, still some sweet malt flavors that don't feel right in a gueuze. Not quite sour, and while its funky its in a way I don't appreciate. Sort of some sweet tarts in the flavor. Hurts to say it, a very lackluster 3F offering. (770 characters)

Photo of AleWatcher
3.22/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Dudeabide shared this with us at an awesome tasting.

Little hazy toasted golden color with a light tan head. Good spotty lacin left behind.

Smells of tangerine peels and toasted malt. Aaaand some sulfer notes.
The flavor is sweeter than the others in the series... More malty. Some chalky mineral water vibe reminds me of candy.

This is no where near as sour as the others and it actually finishes kinda sweet. Rather full-bodied.

Overall-- on a random Tuesday night this would score higher, by compared to Lente and Zomer (which were opened side by side). (565 characters)

Photo of Urbancaver
3.51/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Opened at normyk's

Gusher... Way over carbonated.
Pours a slightly hazy pale orange. Nice white head. But overall nothing special.
Smells off... Raisiny... Sulphur. Weird... What's going on? Smells worse than zoomed and Lente by far
Tastes pretty solid but more malty than I'd like. over carbonated as well
Overall good... But not as good as the other 3 (355 characters)

Photo of rudzud
3.66/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Shared with JLindros and company at the last whale tasting. Reviewed from notes

A - Poured into my Kate the Great tulip a hazy orange hue with a one finger head that leaves some nice light lacing.

S - Deep forest here, earth, but then... light rubber and leather. Really not a fan of the rubber tree thing going on here.

T - Taste is same as the nose. Nice lightly sour and faint funk. Some hay and then it finishes with burnt rubber tones. Really disrupts whats going on with this beer.

M - Mouthfeel is good. Lightly tart though on the thinner side.

O - Overall, not a bad beer, but not sure if its age or handling or what but that burnt rubber really kills this. Doesnt taste like one of Armand's best. (710 characters)

Photo of Tnudish
3.69/5  rDev -14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.25

Reviewed from notes. Tried side by side with the rest of the Armand’4s in early 2012.

A-Winter pours a cloudy/hazy amber orange in color with a moderate amount of off-white head.

S-The nose on winter differs from the other Armand’4 we’ve had, it is more perfume-like in my opinion. The funkiness is still there, but this is definitely perfumey in nature.

T-The difference from the other Armand’4s continues in the taste. This is sweeter in comparison to the other 3. It is noticeably less acidic, sour and doesn’t have as much funky punch to it as the others either.

M-Mouthfeel is light and creamy, with fizzy carbonation, light acidity, and a long finish.

O-This is definitely the weakest of the 4 Armands. I would be hard pressed to buy this for any reason other than completing the set. In my eyes, this is a sufficient drop off in quality from the other 3. (881 characters)

Photo of jlindros
3.85/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to either rudzud or Duffy for this one.

Pours a creamy head with hazy golden orange color.

Nose has some funk, tart malts and fruit, lighter, light tart weird musty slight sulfury funk.

Taste is fairly sour, light funk and tart like fruits, bready yeast, juicy but syrupy fruit, little think but decent funk. Hint of hay and lemongrass. Finish is dry bready funk, long fairly bitter earthy tart funk with a light rubbery-ish thing in it.

body is thinner with good carb.

Overall eh, some funky off flavors and aromas I think, but still got some decent funk and tart fruits, so probably not Armand's best. (615 characters)

Photo of scottfrie
3.92/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks again Jared. Snifter, reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a cloudy dark golden color beneath a very fizzy short lived head that really bubbled up after the pour. Spotty lace down the glass.
S: Light funk on the nose alongside sweeter fruit notes. I get hints of straw, must, shitty funk, and lemon zest.
T: Follows the nose with gueuze flavors of hay, straw, basement must, lemon zest, citrus pith, oak and some sweet lemon candy. Tastes like a lemon drop dropped in the dirt. Good citrus tartness.
M: Frothy mouth, drying mouth but not as bad as I remember the others being, with a smooth medium body. On the sweeter side but not crazy.
O: Aside from the bubbles this is another amazing gueuze, but not my favorite of the series. Thankfully not too sweet, dominate lemon profile. Thanks Jared. (800 characters)

Photo of DavoleBomb
3.95/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Poured into a tasting glass. Bottle shared among six of us, so about 4 oz. for me. Consumed last of our four seasons tasting.

3.5 A: Moderately hazed yellow orange. A little darker than Zomer, which was a little darker than Lente. Looks like Herfst. Two and a half fingers of foamy white head. Retention is better than Herfst, but worse than the other two. Least lacing of all of them

3.5 S: Almost as earthy of Zomer with the "cleanest funk." By that I liken it more to a stream running through a forest than an enclosed dank basement. I'm picking up something along the lines of mustard seed as well. Least impressive nose and the least "gueuzy."

4.0 T: Lucky for me, this has some of the bleu cheesiness that was featured in Herfst. Mustard seed component is back again. Lightest mustiness with some of the typical players - basement, hay, rotting wood.

5.0 M: Lighter body. High gueuzy carbonation that is perfectly spritzy and creamy as well. The best mouthfeel is found in Winter.

4.0 D: I know that Herfst was my favorite and Zomer was my least favorite, but I can't figure out the other two. Lente was the most complex and better tasting, but Winter has the cheesy component that I love and the best mouthfeel. (1,223 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
4/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter. Bottled 4/22/2010. Reviewed from notes.

Appearance - Big head, orange body. Hazy. A little bit of lacing and brief retention.

Smell - Mild citrus. Acidic lemon and a medium funk. Less intense than the others.

Taste - Really tart. Similar to Zomer in it's acidity. A little vinegar. This one has the herbal notes again, but less so than the Zomer. Puckering finish.

Mouthfeel - Not as dry, but still quite sour. Less complex. Medium carbonation.

Overall - Still a good gueuze, but the least impressive of the four. Feels like the flavors could go wrong at any moment, but it stays the course. (633 characters)

Photo of srandycarter
4/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My last Armand...

A - Murky straw, big head. Slow to leave.

S - Sharp, malt undertow, barny.

T - Very sharp. Tangy, malt not so present.

M - Med to light body, great carb, good balance.

D - A very easy to drink beer. Sad that my Armands are gone. (251 characters)

Photo of islandboi8204
4.05/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Opened along side Lente, Zomer, Herfst, shared 4 ways.

Pours a hazy peach colored body, large white fluffy head with dense lacing.

Smells very complex, musty oak, earthy, lemon zest, and almost some metallic. Even some pumpkin pie and smokey meat... very interesting.

Tastes like lemon and grapefruit with a heavy dose of wood and funk. This one is a lot more earthy than the other 3 seasons. I thought from the first few sips that I would like this variation the best, but as it warmed, it became my least favorite. The pumpkin sausage pie flavors were too much after a while.

Light to medium body, smooth carbonation.

Overall, my least favorite of the Armand’4 series. Way too much earthiness and off flavors for me. I thought it would be the most interesting and unique variation at the beginning, in terms of flavor and smell, but as it warmed, the others were more drinkable with their balance. (907 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
4.1/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks again, Richard!

Pours a cloudy orange color with a tall white head. Smells quite similar to many of the Drie Fonteinen gueuzes. It's fairly funky with a nice grass and earthy aroma. There is a bit of tartness of lemon and green apple, too. The flavor is a bit sweeter than I expected. But other than that, it's a typically good and drinkable gueuze from Armand. Nice tartness and funk all around. Medium bodied with high carbonation. (441 characters)

Photo of DefenCorps
4.11/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle at our Drie Fonteinen tasting last night

Orange, mildly hazy with a dense white head with excellent retention and gorgeous lacing, this looks perfect, as did the rest of the Armand' 4 lineup. The nose is minty and spicy with a little alcohol, candied oranges and lemons. Nice musty and earthy funk, there's a nice balance of brightness is must.

The palate opens sour and sharp, mildly metallic and sharp with a touch of solvent. A little musty, this is not very fruity but has a pleasant lactic sourness. Drying and sour on the finish, this is mildly sweet. Nice stuff. (578 characters)

Photo of largadeer
4.16/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Shared by nick3. Thanks a ton, Nick.

Clear, bright amber body with a tall frothy head that shows great retention and lacing. Malty, grainy nose with honey, stonefruit, restrained acidity at this point. Smells completely different than the other Armand'4 beers, decidedly more malty and somewhat sweet. The palate has a big grain and barrel tannin character, very biting and pleasantly astringent. Flavors of tart green apple, grapefruit, pale malt, bitter herbs. Sourness is present but mild, though it should intensify with age. Body is pretty big for gueuze, and the finish has a surprising bitter kick along with lemon rind-like tannins. Good stuff, very different than the other beers in this series, perhaps less good but still thoroughly enjoyable. (755 characters)

Photo of FosterJM
4.17/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1653rd Review on BA
Bottle to Tulip
75cl

2010 Bottling
Thanks Jazz for landing me a bottle

Split with GuruDel

App- A very dark orange without a lot of highlighting colors behind it. Had a very small formation of bubbles and was gone quickly. Didnt leave any stick behind. Looks almost identical to Hefst.

Smell- A great smelling beer. Not on par with Lente but quite nice. Didnt have as much of the citrus on the nose but had a touch more tart behind it witout being overly done. The flavors seemed a bit thicker on this one.

Taste- A very well done beer. I enjoyed this for the full crisp slightly sour citrus flavors. This was a bit more full than the others and am adjusting as so. More

Mouth- A small light body almost a good solid medium with a lighter medium carbonation level. Wasnt a fresh and popping. Lacking a bit of pop on residual flavors.

Drink- A very well done beer. This series is really something magical. Glad I was able to try all 4 of them. (970 characters)

Photo of orangesol
4.17/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to stakem for bringing this one to our recent gueuze tasting, providing the last of the four to complete the series.

A - Pours golden amber orange with a creamy one finger tall white head leaving sticky trails of lace down the glass.

S - Smells of lemons, apples, wet hay, light barnyard funk, minerals and a surprising amount of oak. A bit more funk, less sourness, than I was expecting. Very nice nose.

T - Starts off with a bit of acidic fruit - mostly lemons - quickly giving way to hints of dry oak, wet earth, hay and some musty basement funk. The funk is pretty strong, not as sour as I was expecting it to be, leaving the pallet dry after the finish.

M - Medium body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Smooth, tart feel with quite a bit of dry oak tannin in the finish, the most of any of the beers in the series. All things considered, a very nice feel.

O - My least favorite of the series yet still an enjoyable gueuze. I think this one is a little rough around the edges at this point in time. I hope to try this one again in the future. (1,064 characters)

Photo of spdyfire83
4.17/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

302nd Review
75cl bottle poured into 3F geuze glass
Bottled: 22/04/2010
BB: April 2020

Winter is after Autumn; as such, I enjoyed these two beers in that order.

A: Medium amber. Only 5 (off-white) fingernail head on gentle pour. This one is carbonated too!

S: Earthy notes along with classic funk and must. Touch of hop character here as well.

T: Earthy hops with soft lemon, funk, and dull cracked hay. Crisp.

M: Light body with medium carbonation.

O: Nice and earthy beer. Very distinct and good. As mentioned in my review of Herfst, this bee could stand some age a bit. The earthiness grew on me a bit as the beer warmed, but this is the "worst" of the four of the "Four Seasons" series, IMO. Haha - laughable to say that, but one has to bring up the back. (766 characters)

Photo of KickInTheChalice
4.18/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

From notes. Poured from a 750 mL bottle into a tulip. Compared with Lente, Zomer, and Herfst side by side.

Winter is a little bit lighter than the others of the series, still with a nice bubbly carbonation on the pour that rests gently as a small cap for the duration of the glass.

The aroma has a much stronger earthy and musty aroma than the other three. There are notes of mushrooms and funky cheese to go along with a tart lemon character and a bit of hay.

The flavor really follows the aroma. There is actually a bit of sweetness up front, with the tartness taking its time to come in. The flavor is more earthy and mellow, with lemon zest providing more support and balance than a true dominating flavor. Winter is definitely less fruity than the other seasons as well.

The body is slightly lighter than the other seasons, with a creamy and smooth carbonation that matches what I have seen from the other three. It is also fairly dry, with a fairly strong oak presence.

Even though I did not prefer Winter to the others of the series, this is still a strong offering. (1,078 characters)

Photo of Verecund
4.22/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

December 20, 2011. Couldn't quite wait until Winter Solstice.

A slow pour yields a clear, pumpkin-bodied beer with a massive four to five finger, rocky head. Thick, patchy lacing, but somewhat overcarbonated at first glance.

Strong leathery, musty, and wet hay/pine funk nose. Lightly nutty, with tangerine, grapefruit, and citrus acidity peeking through. (As it warms, the acidity brightens on the nose.) A whiff of old wood on the finish. Satisfyingly old and barny, but still cleanly fruity.

Sour white flesh fruits and lemon with a lingering dry and dusty flavor profile, especially on the mid and late palate. Lots of woodiness and leathery (young) funk. The fruit notes are hidden to some extent beneath the rest of the flavor profile. Tasty, but a little abrupt/short on the mid palate, with only a hint of that leaves-you-wanting-more pucker.

Just under medium bodied with medium carbonation. Fairly dry finish, offset just slightly with a briefly lingering bitterness (and acidity).

As with the other iterations of Armand'4, this is tasty and delightful. It strikes me as older/dustier than its siblings, but it still tastes young. I'm not sure it's as immediately successful to my palate as Lente or Zomer, but I'll update the review after trying the four seasons alongside each other. (1,303 characters)

Photo of jmarsh123
4.25/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours murky orange with a big slightly off-white head that fades down to less than a finger after a few minutes and spotty lacing down the glass.

Aroma: Lemons, pears, apples, oak and a ton of earthy funk. Seems like a lot more than previous seasons.

Sour apple right off the bat. There's a little creaminess and some oak shines through. Taken over by that earthy "dirt" presence before finishing with some more sour apple and pear.

Creamy mouthfeel and good carbonation. Maybe a bit higher than the others.

Definitely not as good as the Lente. I'd had to have them side by side again to find the order, but it seems like this is the weakest although it's still a tasty beer. The earthy component is just a bit too much after a while although it's still a great beer. (771 characters)

Photo of oline73
4.25/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Sour and Bitter. Poured into my stemless wine glass.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy amber with a golden hue. There is a finger of off white head that sticks around pretty well.

Smell: Somewhat sweet right off the bat. There is a lemon juice tartness along with a mild funk to back it up.

Taste: More funk/mineral notes than I found in the smell. Some lemon juice notes as well. Light and quite tart with some hops showing up in the finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tingly carbonation and a finish that is a tad dry.

Overall: This beer had a lot going on and was very good. Tart and refreshing, I am glad I have a bottle of my own to open in the future. (670 characters)

Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.29/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Bottle opened on 8.20.13

A - Pours a murky, very light brown with a huge cream-colored head that never fades.

S - Very, very funky, lots of woody, slightly citrus, and tons of horseblanket funk.

T - Funky, wood-very earthy and dirty.

D - Dry, Good carbonation with a light body.

O - Very funky and dry, but not overly complex. Still stellar, but not as good as the other seasons in my opinion. (398 characters)

Photo of thagr81us
4.3/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This one was a part of cmrillo’s 40 Beers* @ 40 Birthday Bash! Shared by cmrillo at his own party! Served from bottle into a Drie Fonteinen ‘3 Fountains’ gueuze glass. Poured a hazy yellow-orange with a three finger white head that subsided to one finger slowly. Maintained nice lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, lemon zest, citrus, and funk. The flavor was of sweet malt, lemon zest, lemon rine, citrus, funk, and sour. It had a light feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this was a fairly great brew. It was very similar to the Herfst we had prior, but not as citrusy. Still a very solid brew from a well recognized brewery. Definitely an absolute must try. (712 characters)

Photo of brystmar
4.3/5  rDev 0%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed alongside the other Armand'4 seasons at our Memorial Day tasting. As with the other Armands, this pour is gorgeous.

Winter was noticeably different from the other seasons. Oddly, it gave off my favorite aroma despite placing 4th in my overall rankings. It was also the most acidic of the four -- a characteristic I typically love. Something in the mix of flavors here doesn't resonate with me like it did with Lente & Zomer. Still a fantastic gueuze, though.

In our group of 6, we had at least one person who thought each season was the best of the bunch. Goes to show how individual palates prefer different flavor profiles. (635 characters)

Photo of ArrogantB
4.3/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This was my second favorite of the Armand '4 series just behind Lente. Standard gueuze appearance, maybe a little orange. Smells like citrus rind, acid, old gueuze. Flavor is delicious old gueuze with note of honey and then followed by an acidic kick. Quite the top notch gueuze and these Armand '4 blends are a tastier selection than the standard gueuzes from 3F which are already superb. (389 characters)

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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter from Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen
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