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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter - Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen

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Reviews: 61
Hads: 236
rAvg: 4.3
pDev: 9.07%
Wants: 240
Gots: 77 | FT: 6
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Gueuze |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

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Beer added by: MasterSki on 12-16-2011

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of jlindros
3.85/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to either rudzud or Duffy for this one.

Pours a creamy head with hazy golden orange color.

Nose has some funk, tart malts and fruit, lighter, light tart weird musty slight sulfury funk.

Taste is fairly sour, light funk and tart like fruits, bready yeast, juicy but syrupy fruit, little think but decent funk. Hint of hay and lemongrass. Finish is dry bready funk, long fairly bitter earthy tart funk with a light rubbery-ish thing in it.

body is thinner with good carb.

Overall eh, some funky off flavors and aromas I think, but still got some decent funk and tart fruits, so probably not Armand's best. (615 characters)

Photo of DefenCorps
4.11/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle at our Drie Fonteinen tasting last night

Orange, mildly hazy with a dense white head with excellent retention and gorgeous lacing, this looks perfect, as did the rest of the Armand' 4 lineup. The nose is minty and spicy with a little alcohol, candied oranges and lemons. Nice musty and earthy funk, there's a nice balance of brightness is must.

The palate opens sour and sharp, mildly metallic and sharp with a touch of solvent. A little musty, this is not very fruity but has a pleasant lactic sourness. Drying and sour on the finish, this is mildly sweet. Nice stuff. (578 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
4/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter. Bottled 4/22/2010. Reviewed from notes.

Appearance - Big head, orange body. Hazy. A little bit of lacing and brief retention.

Smell - Mild citrus. Acidic lemon and a medium funk. Less intense than the others.

Taste - Really tart. Similar to Zomer in it's acidity. A little vinegar. This one has the herbal notes again, but less so than the Zomer. Puckering finish.

Mouthfeel - Not as dry, but still quite sour. Less complex. Medium carbonation.

Overall - Still a good gueuze, but the least impressive of the four. Feels like the flavors could go wrong at any moment, but it stays the course. (633 characters)

Photo of thagr81us
4.3/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This one was a part of cmrillo’s 40 Beers* @ 40 Birthday Bash! Shared by cmrillo at his own party! Served from bottle into a Drie Fonteinen ‘3 Fountains’ gueuze glass. Poured a hazy yellow-orange with a three finger white head that subsided to one finger slowly. Maintained nice lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, lemon zest, citrus, and funk. The flavor was of sweet malt, lemon zest, lemon rine, citrus, funk, and sour. It had a light feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this was a fairly great brew. It was very similar to the Herfst we had prior, but not as citrusy. Still a very solid brew from a well recognized brewery. Definitely an absolute must try. (712 characters)

Photo of MasterSki
4.32/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared with Jason & Olga to celebrate Bella Canto's victory in the $500 GTT Burlesque 'Thing'. Served in plastic cups - how droll.

A - The cork rockets out, and foam quickly starts oozing out. Voluminous white foam settles to a thick cap, leaving behind splotchy lace. Murky dark amber body that is surprisingly tenebrous for a gueuze.

S - Very earthy, with hefty doses of musty basement, earthen floors, mushrooms, and old oak barrels. There's more malt character here than is found in the other Armand'4 offerings, with some light sugar mixed in with the expected under-ripe peach and apricot flavors.

T - Taste has significantly more lemon sourness than the aroma suggest, and it fills out the flavor profile a bit more. Again, quite mellow and earthy, with light oak, stone fruits, and lightly sugary malt sweetness.

M - Medium body, with pleasant carbonation. Super dry, with a hefty dose of tannic oak. The added heft supports the increased malt presence.

D - When I read the reviews I was worried this was going to be like the disgustingly sweet Oude Gueuze Vintage '06. Thankfully this was more like an 'imperial' Lente, with the same mellow and earthy flavors but even more malt presence. It's pretty amazing that Armand got such unique beers out of simply tweaking the blend ratios. That being said, I found this to be my least favorite of the series by a very small margin. (1,396 characters)

Photo of brystmar
4.3/5  rDev 0%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed alongside the other Armand'4 seasons at our Memorial Day tasting. As with the other Armands, this pour is gorgeous.

Winter was noticeably different from the other seasons. Oddly, it gave off my favorite aroma despite placing 4th in my overall rankings. It was also the most acidic of the four -- a characteristic I typically love. Something in the mix of flavors here doesn't resonate with me like it did with Lente & Zomer. Still a fantastic gueuze, though.

In our group of 6, we had at least one person who thought each season was the best of the bunch. Goes to show how individual palates prefer different flavor profiles. (635 characters)

Photo of WillCarrera
4.6/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

750 ml bottle, from box number 187/500, poured into a tulip. Drank this side-by-side with Herfst.

A- Pours a golden color with a few fingers of fluffy white head, leaves great lacing.

S- Very funky, has some citrus and fruit, as it warms up some herbal spiciness emerges.

T- Nice bracing tartness, some citrus, funk is earthy and as it warms up becomes herbal. Finish is bitter and tannic, with more notes of herbs and hay.

M- Medium-bodied, smooth and very creamy.

O- A really awesome gueuze. I liked this one more than Herfst, I've never had such an herbal gueuze before but it works really well and is sort of reminiscent of the idea of winter. (653 characters)

Photo of Etan
4.63/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared side-by-side with Herfst by Willcarrera and Agold. Poured from a 750ml into a tulip.

A: Pours a darkish, murky gold with a nice tower of white foam. Great lacing.

S: Earthy funk and mildly fruity sourness in the nose. Gets a little more spicy and herbal as it warms.

T: Moderately sour with a good lactic base. Apricot, earthy mushroom, garlic, wet leaf. Much more funky and a little more complex than Herfst. Sweetness and a tiny bit of citric hoppiness comes out as it warms. Hay, grain, and more wet funk in the finish.

M: Perfect mouthfeel for a geuze. Sort of light with lively but not overpowering carbonation.

O: This was my favorite of the two. A bit more funky and complex. Thanks A and Will for the chance to try these fantastic blends. (765 characters)

Photo of Agold
4.5/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

'This beer has a bit of a looser head than the herfst. Some nice lacing. Aroma is Funky woody citrus mildly sweet round tart. More cobwebby and musty. Flavor has a lot of rind pretty fruity sour with a touch of lactic vinegar. Very smooth flavors and very well integrated. Noticed some light maybe tropical note. Mouthfeel is effervescent and light with nice fine carbonation. Very extraordinary beer. (401 characters)

Photo of oline73
4.25/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Sour and Bitter. Poured into my stemless wine glass.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy amber with a golden hue. There is a finger of off white head that sticks around pretty well.

Smell: Somewhat sweet right off the bat. There is a lemon juice tartness along with a mild funk to back it up.

Taste: More funk/mineral notes than I found in the smell. Some lemon juice notes as well. Light and quite tart with some hops showing up in the finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tingly carbonation and a finish that is a tad dry.

Overall: This beer had a lot going on and was very good. Tart and refreshing, I am glad I have a bottle of my own to open in the future. (670 characters)

Photo of jethrodium
4.54/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle. Pours a clear golden copper with a small white head that has good retention and leaves a decent amount of lacing on the glass. The aroma is funky and earthy. There is lemon, apricot, tons of earthy funkiness, and some mushroom. The initial taste has a bit of sweetness and is a bit tart. The taste has some lemon, apricot, and grapefruit, an earthy funkiness, and some mushroom. The finish is earthy with a decent tartness. Medium body. Medium carbonation. This is just another great beer. It isn't as good as lente, but is still amazing. It could use a touch less sweetness and doesn't have the amazing fluffy mouthfeel that lente does, but it is still great. (675 characters)

Photo of cpetrone84
4.58/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

pour is dark golden orange with tons of bubbly white head. The nose has some dustiness to it then some of the others with a nice cheese rind and juicy peach and apricot. The taste is juicier than the nose an lighter in the brett and cheese department. Some dry dusty Brett sets in mid to back palate with the juicy apricots behind. The body is a touch syrupy with a nice carbonation and light body. Interesting fruit component, strongest of the three (had next to zomer and lente). (481 characters)

Photo of mdfb79
4.57/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Sour Tasting. All 4 Armand'4 series beers were sampled side by side.

a - Pours a murky dark golden color with two inches of white head and moderate carbonation evident. Looks like the rest of them.

s - Smells of sour fruits, light funk, citrus, earthy notes, acidic.

t - Tastes of sour fruits, earthy notes, floral, notes, yeast, light funk, light space.

m - Medium body and moderate to high carbonation. Very easy to drink, like the rest of them.

o - Overall another fantastic gueuze in the Armand'4 series. I would rank them Lente, Zomer, Winter, than Herfst personally, but they are all winners. (603 characters)

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.31/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle pour sampled at mrbubbler's tasting.

Pours a murky orange with a beige head that fades to nothing. No lacing on this one. Smell is sour/tart with funk and some citrus-like aromas. Taste is the same with a nice tart finish. This beer has a very high level of carbonation with a super crisp and prickly mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good gueuze but I think the amount of carbonation on this one is a bit too high. (424 characters)

Photo of warnerry
4.33/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle served by Armand's wife at the 3F lambikOdroom and shared during a great day of tasting with new friend BA woosterbill and others.

A - Pours clear golden deep brown with three fingers of off-white head. Head has great retention and leaves bits of lacing.

S - Heavy funk with faint citrus notes. Slight aroma of feet and nice musty cheese. Faint earthy/bitter aromas round things out.

T - Has bitter notes very reminiscent of chewing a 1000 mg vitamin C tablet. Taste is mildly acidic but mostly earthy and funky. Lots of grapefruit rind in the finish and some lemon midway through.

M - Medium light crisp mouthfeel has a lingering earthiness and slight bitterness.

O - Not the most acidic geuze, definitely more focused on earthy funk. Still, very enjoyable all around. (781 characters)

Photo of woosterbill
4.43/5  rDev +3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle into a 3F wine glass, enjoyed at the brewery tasting room. Good times. Much like my last visit to 3F, this bottle (and others) was shared with a new friend - cheers to BA warnerry!

A: Clear orange-amber body crested by a tremendous, majestic tan head. Amazing retention, nice frothy lace. Perfect.

S: Crazy funky, with lots of feet, pumpkin, barnyard, urea, dirt, grass, cheese, and flint. Light acidity. Excellently disgusting.

T: Barnyard, mushroom, lemon, and distinct grapefruit on the long, dry aftertaste. Soem green apple hoppiness, some uric acid (but in a good way, I swear), and some hay. As it warms it becomes heavier and very pumpkin-forward. It's excellent, but I'd like more earthiness and depth of funk like the nose suggested.

M: Soft, fairly light body with matching carbonation. A little weak, actually - it doesn't match the heaviness of the flavors.

O: This was completely unlike the Lente we drank alongside it (the Lente was sheer perfection, as always), and struck me as being both heavier and funkier than the rest of the series. It reminded more of Doesjel than the other Armand'4s, but that wasn't entirely a bad thing. It was fascinating to note the differences between the first and last beers in this most amazing series. Winter was definitely my least favorite (I'd say Lente>Herfst>Zomer>Winter), but it was still one of the best beers I've ever had.

Cheers! (1,419 characters)

Photo of srandycarter
4/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My last Armand...

A - Murky straw, big head. Slow to leave.

S - Sharp, malt undertow, barny.

T - Very sharp. Tangy, malt not so present.

M - Med to light body, great carb, good balance.

D - A very easy to drink beer. Sad that my Armands are gone. (251 characters)

Photo of DavoleBomb
3.95/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Poured into a tasting glass. Bottle shared among six of us, so about 4 oz. for me. Consumed last of our four seasons tasting.

3.5 A: Moderately hazed yellow orange. A little darker than Zomer, which was a little darker than Lente. Looks like Herfst. Two and a half fingers of foamy white head. Retention is better than Herfst, but worse than the other two. Least lacing of all of them

3.5 S: Almost as earthy of Zomer with the "cleanest funk." By that I liken it more to a stream running through a forest than an enclosed dank basement. I'm picking up something along the lines of mustard seed as well. Least impressive nose and the least "gueuzy."

4.0 T: Lucky for me, this has some of the bleu cheesiness that was featured in Herfst. Mustard seed component is back again. Lightest mustiness with some of the typical players - basement, hay, rotting wood.

5.0 M: Lighter body. High gueuzy carbonation that is perfectly spritzy and creamy as well. The best mouthfeel is found in Winter.

4.0 D: I know that Herfst was my favorite and Zomer was my least favorite, but I can't figure out the other two. Lente was the most complex and better tasting, but Winter has the cheesy component that I love and the best mouthfeel. (1,223 characters)

Photo of jmarsh123
4.25/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours murky orange with a big slightly off-white head that fades down to less than a finger after a few minutes and spotty lacing down the glass.

Aroma: Lemons, pears, apples, oak and a ton of earthy funk. Seems like a lot more than previous seasons.

Sour apple right off the bat. There's a little creaminess and some oak shines through. Taken over by that earthy "dirt" presence before finishing with some more sour apple and pear.

Creamy mouthfeel and good carbonation. Maybe a bit higher than the others.

Definitely not as good as the Lente. I'd had to have them side by side again to find the order, but it seems like this is the weakest although it's still a tasty beer. The earthy component is just a bit too much after a while although it's still a great beer. (771 characters)

Photo of largadeer
4.16/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Shared by nick3. Thanks a ton, Nick.

Clear, bright amber body with a tall frothy head that shows great retention and lacing. Malty, grainy nose with honey, stonefruit, restrained acidity at this point. Smells completely different than the other Armand'4 beers, decidedly more malty and somewhat sweet. The palate has a big grain and barrel tannin character, very biting and pleasantly astringent. Flavors of tart green apple, grapefruit, pale malt, bitter herbs. Sourness is present but mild, though it should intensify with age. Body is pretty big for gueuze, and the finish has a surprising bitter kick along with lemon rind-like tannins. Good stuff, very different than the other beers in this series, perhaps less good but still thoroughly enjoyable. (755 characters)

Photo of islandboi8204
4.05/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Opened along side Lente, Zomer, Herfst, shared 4 ways.

Pours a hazy peach colored body, large white fluffy head with dense lacing.

Smells very complex, musty oak, earthy, lemon zest, and almost some metallic. Even some pumpkin pie and smokey meat... very interesting.

Tastes like lemon and grapefruit with a heavy dose of wood and funk. This one is a lot more earthy than the other 3 seasons. I thought from the first few sips that I would like this variation the best, but as it warmed, it became my least favorite. The pumpkin sausage pie flavors were too much after a while.

Light to medium body, smooth carbonation.

Overall, my least favorite of the Armand’4 series. Way too much earthiness and off flavors for me. I thought it would be the most interesting and unique variation at the beginning, in terms of flavor and smell, but as it warmed, the others were more drinkable with their balance. (907 characters)

Photo of orangesol
4.17/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to stakem for bringing this one to our recent gueuze tasting, providing the last of the four to complete the series.

A - Pours golden amber orange with a creamy one finger tall white head leaving sticky trails of lace down the glass.

S - Smells of lemons, apples, wet hay, light barnyard funk, minerals and a surprising amount of oak. A bit more funk, less sourness, than I was expecting. Very nice nose.

T - Starts off with a bit of acidic fruit - mostly lemons - quickly giving way to hints of dry oak, wet earth, hay and some musty basement funk. The funk is pretty strong, not as sour as I was expecting it to be, leaving the pallet dry after the finish.

M - Medium body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Smooth, tart feel with quite a bit of dry oak tannin in the finish, the most of any of the beers in the series. All things considered, a very nice feel.

O - My least favorite of the series yet still an enjoyable gueuze. I think this one is a little rough around the edges at this point in time. I hope to try this one again in the future. (1,064 characters)

Photo of callmemickey
4.33/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opened 2/14/2012 with the wife.

A: Hazy peach colored body. Large off-white frothy head. Dense lacing.

S: Musty oak and minerals. Light underlying lemon acidity.

T: Surprisingly fruity -- lemon and grapefruit -- given the predominantly woody and musty nose. A bit of bready malt also comes through. It still has a bit of that signature Drie Fonteinen earthyness to it though.

M: Mildly tart, smooth-even carbonation, light to medium bodied.

O: The weakest of the Armand’4 series -- but that shouldn’t be taken as too much of a knock. (542 characters)

Photo of AleWatcher
3.22/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Dudeabide shared this with us at an awesome tasting.

Little hazy toasted golden color with a light tan head. Good spotty lacin left behind.

Smells of tangerine peels and toasted malt. Aaaand some sulfer notes.
The flavor is sweeter than the others in the series... More malty. Some chalky mineral water vibe reminds me of candy.

This is no where near as sour as the others and it actually finishes kinda sweet. Rather full-bodied.

Overall-- on a random Tuesday night this would score higher, by compared to Lente and Zomer (which were opened side by side). (565 characters)

Photo of TurdFurgison
2.56/5  rDev -40.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottle graciously shared by dudeabide (thanks Nate!). Sampled side by side with the Lente and the Zomer. The winter suffered a bit by comparison, I'm sorry to say. I suspect this was just a bad bottle, but then again it costs a lot so it deserves whatever rating it gets.

Pours darker than its brethren, a light-medium copper with a solid several fingers of foam. It has a very OFF aroma at first, difficult to appreciate. Infection? Whatever, the aroma improves after 10 minutes of air time (while I focused on the Zomer).

Eventually drinkable, still some sweet malt flavors that don't feel right in a gueuze. Not quite sour, and while its funky its in a way I don't appreciate. Sort of some sweet tarts in the flavor. Hurts to say it, a very lackluster 3F offering. (770 characters)

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Armand'4 Oude Geuze Winter from Brouwerij Drie Fonteinen
94 out of 100 based on 61 ratings.