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Vanderghinste Oud Bruin - Brouwerij Bockor N.V.

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BA SCORE
90
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225 Reviews
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Reviews: 225
Hads: 787
Avg: 4.05
pDev: 20.49%
Wants: 54
Gots: 102 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij Bockor N.V.
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Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin | 5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 12-08-2000

Label also displays .VanderGhinste Oud Bruin'.
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Photo of VincentFrey
3.98/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pour / Appearance: Corked and Caged bottle poured into a Nepenthe Homebrew tulip. I thought my glass had not been properly cleaned, but it turned out to be carbonation running up the edges. No lasting head, but plenty effervescent in the glass. Beautiful dark red, which turns into a muddy brown outside of the light. Not the prettiest thing all around unless set against a white background and natural light, but hey.

Aroma: Light vinegar, cherry, lactic acid. There is a definite punch to the lactic, but it's mostly on the backend. Vinegar is to be expected, but there isn't a ton of that present. Good start! Cherry and other traditional lambic fruits. This says it's a blend of multiple lambics and young red ale, and I don't know if any of those are lambics were fruited. I doubt it, but it's certainly possible. Either way, it's very appropriate to the style and has a few possibly off notes that actually improve it once you move past stylistic approaches.

Taste: Sour. The lactic hit is giant, but doesn't stay around long, conceding to definite cherry and fruit notes. Oddly this is one of the few Flanders Reds I've had where malt seems to be a showcase as well. I don't know a ton of Belgian staple malts, but it reminds me of pils, vienna, and something slightly dark. It's a very interesting combination, particularly with how sour the beer itself is and how the fruit comes through. It'd probably be a bit too vinous without that malt character, so I'm glad for it.

Overall: A very nice, if non-traditional, Flanders red. I dig it a ton even if not perfectly to style.

Bottom Line: If you like sours or reds, must buy. Fruit beer loves should give it a shot too. It's not all that expensive either, so it might be a good transitory beer for folks not used to the style or sours in general.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.13/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I picked this bottle up at Brass Rail Deli in Campbelltown, enjoyed chilled in a teku.

The color is medium brown with light chill haze and thick three finger tan head with rocky surface. The retention is very good and bead is very fine. The smell has strong tart cherry aroma with mild sweet malt and gentle spice ester with nice fruity mix of wild yeast esters. The feel is tangy with moderately high carbonation with semi-dry feel with slight malt sweetness and medium light body with semi-dry finish.

The taste is very good with semi dry malt flavor with fruity tangy and almost sour/sweet flavor from yeast with slight malt sweetness with a light raisiny accent and mild caramel toward the middle with minimal spice in the finish and mild alcohol in the taste. This is a very good example of an Oud bruin, I would drink this again without hesitation.

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Photo of BVukelich
4.13/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Random pick off the shelf this week. Pours a tan, less than average head. About 25 on the SRM scale. Nice color! The lace stuck to the side of the glass like glue, very impressive. The label claimed aroma of cherry and raisins, honestly I didn't pick up the raisins but I don't have the best trained nose. Earthy and tart to me. Those same aromas were reflected in the taste. I like sour beers so I may be partial to this one. It was pretty good. Mouthfeel was smooth, lingering tartness that makes the back of your mouth pucker. I would recommend and think it would pair well with grilled pork chops.

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Photo of BarryMFBurton
4.32/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Damn, Sahara Mart in Bloomington, IN has just about everything. Cheers to aisles and aisles of beers!

Batch code 06; no other date on the bottle.

A: Auburn color with a noticeable haze. The head that forms is short and creamy, grayish-tan in color, which eventually ends up as nothing more than a quarter-inch of soft retention and several skinny strings of lacing.

S: A savory blend of bold lactic acid and sweet, luscious scents of strawberry pie – mouthwatering, nearly. Notes of raspberry purée, sugar cookie, and fresh lemon inhabit the back end.

T: Impressively, this turns out to be a sour with session ale character: the palate is centered strongly on a wheaty grain and grape profile with strawberry syrup flavor – sweet and tart – drizzled on top. At its heart, it’s like a fruit soda with a sour tinge, showing notes of cherry candy, Concord grape, balsamic vinegar, and lemon juice as it progresses. Finishes with a short, controlled aftertaste: subtle jam-on-biscuit flavors extend for a brief moment.

M: Sparkling and light, which helps add to the fruit soda character. Goes down effortlessly.

O: The label on this beer describes everything I could ever say about it – two guys, happily smiling, toasting with simple glasses full of fizzy beer. With a profile that’s light, approachable, and refreshing, this sour ale is the epitome of a no-frills, drinkable delight.

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Photo of Wobbly
4.82/5  rDev +19%

One of my two or three favorite examples of this classic Flemish style. Such a rounded flavor and an excellent body. Complex yet so refreshing you could guzzle it if you are not careful.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.12/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tried from a bottle at the Local Taphouse in Darlinghurst. And as a little piece of trivia: at the time of writing, this is my 2,500th review on BeerAdvocate.

Pours a deep brownish red in colour, very clear and with a solid weight that makes it feel like an uncut ruby. Head is white with a depth to the colour, head is firm and a little filmy. Lace forms in big rings around the edge of the glass. Carbonation is very solid making the beer look alive. Looks good.

Nose is great. Solid tartness and plenty of barrel characters giving oak and a slight vinous note. There's rounded malt underneath it giving it some heft. Characters of anise, muscatels, cherry stem and earth come through as well. It doesn't punch with intensity, but the complexity is great.

Taste is light on entry with a bright, clean crispness and some basso malt presence. Solid cherry characters come through the centre, but still rather sweet. At the back there's more barrel notes—a touch of oxidation and a clean, light tartness. Some sweetness sticks around towards the finish. Feel is light but smooth with some acid providing a bite.

Overall, this is tasty stuff. It's perhaps a little bit sweet, but it's well crafted with plenty of classic characters. Very tasty stuff.

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Photo of Swongler
3.95/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Recommended to me by the shopkeep at Healthy Spirits in San Francisco. Upon tasting I realized that I had this at on tap at another bar once before. Poured into a flute.

A - Dark red-brown. Even hard to see through when held up to light. A thick creamy head of light caramel color.

S - MMMmm smells delicious. Much like any darker sour. Slight metalic/brass smell to it, but that is hidden behind unripened cherries, and unripened apples.

T - Unlike some beers that overdo the sour, this one actually tastes like a beer. This is unmistakably a brown ale with sour properties. Almost like a fruity New Castle... but better. Cherries, slight earthiness, and a tang that makes it just sour enough.

M - The head is nice and creamy. Makes your tongue curl just enough for a sour. Slightly thick, but not overly thick.

O - A solid sour. I would recommend this to just about anyone that appreciates a high-quality sour. I really want to give this one another shot. I am tasting it as I write this review, and I can tell that my opinion of it may change with my mood or state of my palate.

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Photo of GarthDanielson
4.1/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a snifter, the beer is a dark, vibrant, ruby-amber coloring with a thin, filmy, off-white ring of surface head. Nose of fruit tart, with a blend of apple, cherry, and raisin with an earthy undertone. Flavors are tart and earthy forward, providing a very smooth blend of flavors. Tart cherry and apple lead the charge, with an earthy and woody backbone and some old world fruit rich and sweet to follow. Very well balanced, and the tart flavors are in the spotlight, but the beer remains drinkable and dynamic. The aftertaste is rich and tart, with a light, smooth, crisp feel and a slight effervescence into the finish. Very balanced and palatable for the style. Tasty brew.

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Photo of TMoney2591
3.77/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Served in a snifter at Bigby's Pour House.

Gotta be the only place in the area I can get this stuff on tap (unless Firkin wants to throw me for a loop some day). It pours a deep ruby-sienna topped by a half-finger of off-cream foam. The nose comprises spicy red wine grapes (I'm thinking a particularly peppery Tempranillo here), rich caramel, a hint of graham cracker, light plum, mild black cherry, and a feathers' touch of red wine vinegar. The taste brings in more of the same, but whatever tartness was present before has been sanded down to a strong occasional stab adrift in a sea of sweet malts, mild peppery spices, and oxidized sherry. The blend, though, seems to work, leading to a pleasant, easygoing drink that may have been less likely had the tartness retained its former strength. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a slick-ish feel. Overall, a nice bruin, something that doesn't wow or overwhelm, but something that delivers some interesting and unique flavor combinations and an enjoyable time.

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Photo of spoony
3.62/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

From an undated 750 ml bottle into a tulip.

A-A normal pour produces a decent initial head of about two-fingers. The foam is light tan and it fades quickly to a thick cap that hangs around for a bit. The beer is nearly opaque and reddish-brown in color. Pretty standard for the style, but better looking than some.

S-The smell is sort of dusty and earthy with a little bit of sweet/sour cherry and prune. I also detect a bit of saccharine-like artificial sweetness. Not terribly complex. Very little vinous character here.

T-The taste is also a bit one-dimensional with some cherry, stale prune, and a bit of earthy funk, but also a dull, saccharine/oxidized note that makes this brew taste somewhat artificial (or old).

M-The feel is pretty standard for the style with slightly chunky, soda-pop carbonation and a medium body.

O-I am pretty disappointed in this beer. Complexity is lacking and I could not get over the oxidized, saccharine flavors. Perhaps I got an old bottle? On the plus side, it is pretty good-looking for the style and the feel is well-suited for the style, too.

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Photo of facesnorth
3.05/5  rDev -24.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Disappointingly bland. I had higher expectations having enjoyed Cuvee des Jacobins. I didn't get much tart or sour taste out of this. Fairly refreshing on this hot day, so I can't complain entirely. But I'd definitely rather be drinking something else.

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Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, best before 1/11/2014. Pours fairly crystal clear deep ruby red color with a 2 finger fairly dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty foamy lacing clings on the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of sour cherry, raspberry, cranberry, raisin, red wine vinegar, funk, light clove, oak, herbal, caramel, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity yeast notes; with good strength. Taste of tart cherry, raspberry, cranberry, red wine vinegar, oak, clove, light pepper, caramel, funk, herbal, and yeast earthiness. Light fruity tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of cherry, raspberry, cranberry, red wine vinegar, clove, herbal, pepper, caramel, funk, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast ester flavors; with a moderate malt balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium-high carbonation and medium bodied; with a smooth, crisp, and moderately prickly mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is an excellent Flanders brown ale. All around nice balance and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast esters with moderate oak presence; and very smooth and crisp to drink. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of wedge
4.1/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

An attractive, deep coppery red colored body with a small, short-lived head. Sour dark fruit aromas give way to a rich, toasted caramel maltiness. Berries, cherries, and raisins...just a bit acetic. Full, smooth, tart fruity flavor - black cherry and grape - less malt, more vinous notes, and some very light sherry. Some breadiness is perceptible underneath. Medium bodied and tart. Good stuff.

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Photo of pkalix
4.21/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

nice dark, copper-red color with a thin layer of foam on top.
smells like vinegar, of course. i wonder what that 10% double ipa at the pub is going to taste like after this....?
tastes.... like vinegar.... of course. i love this stuff. yes, like vinegar, but i love vinegar.
what can i say? if you like the sours, then there are some good brews out there done well.
since i cannot mix my beers well with a sour in the mix, then i give it a lower score. if i'm doing all sours, then i may be inclined to give it a higher score. unfair, maybe? actually, it's not all that sour, but it does still have the sour properties which makes it difficult to enjoy other 'normal' brews. i have to give the an 85 on that criteria.
and i love the laurel and hardy characters on the front label...

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Photo of SLeffler27
4.34/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark copper (SRM23) with a short-lived, one-inch, fine, beige, creamy foam that drops to a thin film, leaving a creamy lace over a clear beer in a Bellegems Flute glass.

Strong up-front sour cherry, followed by cranberry juice, while warming brings out plum.

Quite fresh, with a pronounced, sour pucker. Raspberry and cranberry are in the forefront, while sweetness is discovered after the tongue adjusts to the sour flavors. Light spices come out in the middle, lasting long into a subtle finish. Overall, there is some acidity.

A medium body with satin texture and high, fine carbonation.

This is a sophisticated beer, suitable for conversation with friends. Despite strong sourness and flavor in the aroma, the various interrelationships within this beer are quite delicate. Warmth brings out a contemplative character.

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Photo of macher0
4.15/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a snifter.

A: Dark brown/amber. Huge head that retreats to a frothy amber rim. Frothy and stable lacing.

S: Sour fruit. Malts. Mildly fragrant, but works well.

T: Mildly sour. Malts. Raw oak. Dry fruits. Rustic.

M: Moderate bodied. Smooth. Not jaw-clinching. Moderate carbonation.

O: A very good, mild sour. Not near as tart as others, and for that reason, this ale could be recommended to folks who do not like extremely tart sours. This was a gift, so I'm not sure of the price, but I would likely buy this in replace of other Belgian Flanders.

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Photo of silverking
3.81/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A- Bright, clear red with a light tan head. Lots of active carbonation. Head retention isn't great, but the lacing is nice and a thin ring of foam remains throughout the life of the glass.

S- Balsamic vinegar, lemon. Some darker fruits in there as well, cherry, blackberry. vinous.

T- Balsamic vinegar...it's thoroughly sour. The finish rounds out a bit and shows some tart cherry and under-ripe raspberry.

M- medium bodied with moderate carbonation. As a whole it comes across refreshing, probably because of teh acidity.

O- My first flanders ale, I have mixed feelings on this one. On one side, it's better than I expected. On the other, it's like drinking sour wine.

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Photo of Blindpigbiz
4.3/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Smell: balsamic vinegar with hints of lemon zest

Taste: balsamic vinegar, very very tart balsamic vinegar, with hints of lemon and effervescence; incredibly tart and refreshing

This is another outstanding Flanders red to try. Although, as most of them are within this style tend to be very sour, this beer leaves a refreshing taste in your mouth; this beer is great

Pair this beer with BBQ or, some Mexican street tacos with extra grease, cilantro, onion, and jalapeño. And if your feeling especially adventurous, pair this beer with vanilla bean ice cream and boysenberry pie

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Photo of Flounder57
4/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz beer was poured into a wine glass.

Appearance: This beer poured a one finger pink head that reduced to nothing. It is a crimson color with some clarity when held up to the light and bubbles coming up through the glass too.

Smell: Sour, tart, lactic acid, bready, malty, cherries, and raspberries.

Taste: Same as above. Tart, sweet fruits, and a bit of sour lactic.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, a little pucker, low to medium bodied, medium carbonation, and very drinkable.

Overall: A nice Flanders Oud Bruin that stands up with the best of them.

A nice beer my 500th review too.

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Photo of avalon07
4.29/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a tulip glass. Had a brown color with ruby tints and a thick consistency. There was a small amount of tan-colored, foamy, fairly long-lasting head. Below average lacing.

S: A good aroma of dark fruit, sugar, and malt.

T: Tasted of malt, dark fruit (raisins), apples, and a sugary components. A very well-rounded, complex and likeable flavor. Maltier than I would have expected, but it's not a bad thing.

M: A decent amount of carbonation with a super creamy-smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

O: A superior example of a Bruin. Very much a drinkable beer.

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Photo of MRsojourner
3.96/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

aroma: nice caramel malt & vinegar

Appearance: wonderfully clear brown and red hues with a tan head that persist but no lacing

Taste: sweet malts with a tang/lactic sourness with little vinegar. raspberry fruits with a hint of cherries and plum.

mouthfeel is medium bodied and silky and carbonated quit well.

very enjoyable and a great sipper

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Photo of cradke
4.33/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: Dark Ruby. Plume hues. An extremely fluffy, fine head with lacing. Pours a finger thick then dissolves to a thin covering over the beer.

Smell: Tart cherry's. A little bit of black currant and fig. Notes of acidity and bitter vinegar but not pungent or overpowering. A little bit of wood at the end

Taste: Acidic tart up front. Tart pre ripe cherry. Oak through the middle. The taste is pretty big up front but fades quickly with a very clean aftertaste. Refreshing.

Mouthfeel: Wonderful carbonation. Tossing the beer across the palate really brings out the complex wood and cherry tart.

Overall: I dig. Very refreshing with good fruit flavors. Their is good tartness to it that doesn't yell at you at ever sip but move it across the palate and it shows up. Very enjoyable beer.

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Photo of JamesMN
4.29/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

No date on the bottle but I'm assuming it's pretty old since I've seen it at the store for a long time before deciding to check it out. Was stored on the shelf at room temperature.

Appearance: Very dark red and almost black when not held near light. Fizzy light tan head that is being constantly replenished by the rush of effervescence from the bottom of the glass. Good clarity as well considering it's bottle-conditioned.

Aroma: Quite a balanced mix of sour cherry and sweet raisin. Mellow yet aromatic.

Taste: Starts with a nice jab from the sour yeast strain. Tart cherry sticks out to me as the main fruit flavor. The sour aspect of the beer is mostly in the first half and right when it is about to alarm the palate with its tart flavor, the mood shifts and the brown lambic aspects take over. Sweet raisin and hearty fruits take over, immediately balancing out the sour flavor and giving a rich finish. The only giveaway that this beer is only 5.5% ABV is that there is no heat or any warming sensation. It is surprisingly full of flavor. The oak-aging has definitely done it's job and made this one mellow brew.

Mouthfeel: About medium in body with lots of carbonation that keeps it feeling light and airy. Great drinkability and possibly sessionable if you like this style. Definitely easy enough to finish a large format bottle with a friend or on your own.

Final Thoughts: I've only had a handful of sour ales but Bellegems Bruin will definitely stick out in my mind as one of the most drinker-friendly. While it's not quite as tart as I had hoped for, its smooth and mellow nature makes up for that. Would I drink it again? Yes, especially if sharing with someone who is curious to try the style.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.94/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap 4/26/2013 at Track 84 in Warwick, RI, served in a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark reddish brown color, with a short off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains Belgian yeast, esters, tart fruit and light caramelized malts.

T: The taste starts with tart dark fruits. Then some light Belgian yeast breadiness comes in along with a touch of hops to create a good balance for the style. The after-taste is slightly tart.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is dry.

O: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, mild kick, good representation of style, this is a solid beer to drink for a while if you’re in the mood for the style.

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Photo of notchucknorris
4.29/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours a deep brown color with a huge fizzing and foamy tan head. Pretty good retention.

S: Toasted oak, vanilla, juicy red delicious apple, and a touch of funk. Not a funk bomb, but it's there. Smells pretty nice.

T: Really well made. The sweetness and tartness are very well balanced, leaving a beer that sour and non-sour fans alike should really like. A nice mix of red grapes, slightly tart cherries, velvety smooth malt, red and green apple and some raisin. Tart but not overly sour. Very nice.

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Vanderghinste Oud Bruin from Brouwerij Bockor N.V.
90 out of 100 based on 225 ratings.