Vanderghinste Oud Bruin - Brouwerij Bockor N.V.

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BA SCORE
90
outstanding

707 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 707
Reviews: 217
rAvg: 4.04
pDev: 11.14%
Wants: 48
Gots: 77 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Flanders Oud Bruin |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 12-08-2000

Label also displays .VanderGhinste Oud Bruin'.
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Photo of TMoney2591
3.77/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Served in a snifter at Bigby's Pour House.

Gotta be the only place in the area I can get this stuff on tap (unless Firkin wants to throw me for a loop some day). It pours a deep ruby-sienna topped by a half-finger of off-cream foam. The nose comprises spicy red wine grapes (I'm thinking a particularly peppery Tempranillo here), rich caramel, a hint of graham cracker, light plum, mild black cherry, and a feathers' touch of red wine vinegar. The taste brings in more of the same, but whatever tartness was present before has been sanded down to a strong occasional stab adrift in a sea of sweet malts, mild peppery spices, and oxidized sherry. The blend, though, seems to work, leading to a pleasant, easygoing drink that may have been less likely had the tartness retained its former strength. The body is a light medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a slick-ish feel. Overall, a nice bruin, something that doesn't wow or overwhelm, but something that delivers some interesting and unique flavor combinations and an enjoyable time.

Photo of spoony
3.62/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

From an undated 750 ml bottle into a tulip.

A-A normal pour produces a decent initial head of about two-fingers. The foam is light tan and it fades quickly to a thick cap that hangs around for a bit. The beer is nearly opaque and reddish-brown in color. Pretty standard for the style, but better looking than some.

S-The smell is sort of dusty and earthy with a little bit of sweet/sour cherry and prune. I also detect a bit of saccharine-like artificial sweetness. Not terribly complex. Very little vinous character here.

T-The taste is also a bit one-dimensional with some cherry, stale prune, and a bit of earthy funk, but also a dull, saccharine/oxidized note that makes this brew taste somewhat artificial (or old).

M-The feel is pretty standard for the style with slightly chunky, soda-pop carbonation and a medium body.

O-I am pretty disappointed in this beer. Complexity is lacking and I could not get over the oxidized, saccharine flavors. Perhaps I got an old bottle? On the plus side, it is pretty good-looking for the style and the feel is well-suited for the style, too.

Photo of facesnorth
3.05/5  rDev -24.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Disappointingly bland. I had higher expectations having enjoyed Cuvee des Jacobins. I didn't get much tart or sour taste out of this. Fairly refreshing on this hot day, so I can't complain entirely. But I'd definitely rather be drinking something else.

Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle into tulip glass, best before 1/11/2014. Pours fairly crystal clear deep ruby red color with a 2 finger fairly dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty foamy lacing clings on the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of sour cherry, raspberry, cranberry, raisin, red wine vinegar, funk, light clove, oak, herbal, caramel, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity yeast notes; with good strength. Taste of tart cherry, raspberry, cranberry, red wine vinegar, oak, clove, light pepper, caramel, funk, herbal, and yeast earthiness. Light fruity tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of cherry, raspberry, cranberry, red wine vinegar, clove, herbal, pepper, caramel, funk, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Very nice balance and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast ester flavors; with a moderate malt balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium-high carbonation and medium bodied; with a smooth, crisp, and moderately prickly mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is an excellent Flanders brown ale. All around nice balance and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast esters with moderate oak presence; and very smooth and crisp to drink. A very enjoyable offering.

Photo of wedge
4.1/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

An attractive, deep coppery red colored body with a small, short-lived head. Sour dark fruit aromas give way to a rich, toasted caramel maltiness. Berries, cherries, and raisins...just a bit acetic. Full, smooth, tart fruity flavor - black cherry and grape - less malt, more vinous notes, and some very light sherry. Some breadiness is perceptible underneath. Medium bodied and tart. Good stuff.

Photo of pkalix
4.21/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

nice dark, copper-red color with a thin layer of foam on top.
smells like vinegar, of course. i wonder what that 10% double ipa at the pub is going to taste like after this....?
tastes.... like vinegar.... of course. i love this stuff. yes, like vinegar, but i love vinegar.
what can i say? if you like the sours, then there are some good brews out there done well.
since i cannot mix my beers well with a sour in the mix, then i give it a lower score. if i'm doing all sours, then i may be inclined to give it a higher score. unfair, maybe? actually, it's not all that sour, but it does still have the sour properties which makes it difficult to enjoy other 'normal' brews. i have to give the an 85 on that criteria.
and i love the laurel and hardy characters on the front label...

Photo of SLeffler27
4.34/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark copper (SRM23) with a short-lived, one-inch, fine, beige, creamy foam that drops to a thin film, leaving a creamy lace over a clear beer in a Bellegems Flute glass.

Strong up-front sour cherry, followed by cranberry juice, while warming brings out plum.

Quite fresh, with a pronounced, sour pucker. Raspberry and cranberry are in the forefront, while sweetness is discovered after the tongue adjusts to the sour flavors. Light spices come out in the middle, lasting long into a subtle finish. Overall, there is some acidity.

A medium body with satin texture and high, fine carbonation.

This is a sophisticated beer, suitable for conversation with friends. Despite strong sourness and flavor in the aroma, the various interrelationships within this beer are quite delicate. Warmth brings out a contemplative character.

Photo of macher0
4.15/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a snifter.

A: Dark brown/amber. Huge head that retreats to a frothy amber rim. Frothy and stable lacing.

S: Sour fruit. Malts. Mildly fragrant, but works well.

T: Mildly sour. Malts. Raw oak. Dry fruits. Rustic.

M: Moderate bodied. Smooth. Not jaw-clinching. Moderate carbonation.

O: A very good, mild sour. Not near as tart as others, and for that reason, this ale could be recommended to folks who do not like extremely tart sours. This was a gift, so I'm not sure of the price, but I would likely buy this in replace of other Belgian Flanders.

Photo of silverking
3.81/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A- Bright, clear red with a light tan head. Lots of active carbonation. Head retention isn't great, but the lacing is nice and a thin ring of foam remains throughout the life of the glass.

S- Balsamic vinegar, lemon. Some darker fruits in there as well, cherry, blackberry. vinous.

T- Balsamic vinegar...it's thoroughly sour. The finish rounds out a bit and shows some tart cherry and under-ripe raspberry.

M- medium bodied with moderate carbonation. As a whole it comes across refreshing, probably because of teh acidity.

O- My first flanders ale, I have mixed feelings on this one. On one side, it's better than I expected. On the other, it's like drinking sour wine.

Photo of Blindpigbiz
4.3/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Smell: balsamic vinegar with hints of lemon zest

Taste: balsamic vinegar, very very tart balsamic vinegar, with hints of lemon and effervescence; incredibly tart and refreshing

This is another outstanding Flanders red to try. Although, as most of them are within this style tend to be very sour, this beer leaves a refreshing taste in your mouth; this beer is great

Pair this beer with BBQ or, some Mexican street tacos with extra grease, cilantro, onion, and jalapeño. And if your feeling especially adventurous, pair this beer with vanilla bean ice cream and boysenberry pie

Photo of Flounder57
4/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz beer was poured into a wine glass.

Appearance: This beer poured a one finger pink head that reduced to nothing. It is a crimson color with some clarity when held up to the light and bubbles coming up through the glass too.

Smell: Sour, tart, lactic acid, bready, malty, cherries, and raspberries.

Taste: Same as above. Tart, sweet fruits, and a bit of sour lactic.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, a little pucker, low to medium bodied, medium carbonation, and very drinkable.

Overall: A nice Flanders Oud Bruin that stands up with the best of them.

A nice beer my 500th review too.

Photo of avalon07
4.29/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured from a bottle to a tulip glass. Had a brown color with ruby tints and a thick consistency. There was a small amount of tan-colored, foamy, fairly long-lasting head. Below average lacing.

S: A good aroma of dark fruit, sugar, and malt.

T: Tasted of malt, dark fruit (raisins), apples, and a sugary components. A very well-rounded, complex and likeable flavor. Maltier than I would have expected, but it's not a bad thing.

M: A decent amount of carbonation with a super creamy-smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

O: A superior example of a Bruin. Very much a drinkable beer.

Photo of MRsojourner
3.96/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

aroma: nice caramel malt & vinegar

Appearance: wonderfully clear brown and red hues with a tan head that persist but no lacing

Taste: sweet malts with a tang/lactic sourness with little vinegar. raspberry fruits with a hint of cherries and plum.

mouthfeel is medium bodied and silky and carbonated quit well.

very enjoyable and a great sipper

Photo of cradke
4.33/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: Dark Ruby. Plume hues. An extremely fluffy, fine head with lacing. Pours a finger thick then dissolves to a thin covering over the beer.

Smell: Tart cherry's. A little bit of black currant and fig. Notes of acidity and bitter vinegar but not pungent or overpowering. A little bit of wood at the end

Taste: Acidic tart up front. Tart pre ripe cherry. Oak through the middle. The taste is pretty big up front but fades quickly with a very clean aftertaste. Refreshing.

Mouthfeel: Wonderful carbonation. Tossing the beer across the palate really brings out the complex wood and cherry tart.

Overall: I dig. Very refreshing with good fruit flavors. Their is good tartness to it that doesn't yell at you at ever sip but move it across the palate and it shows up. Very enjoyable beer.

Photo of JamesMN
4.29/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

No date on the bottle but I'm assuming it's pretty old since I've seen it at the store for a long time before deciding to check it out. Was stored on the shelf at room temperature.

Appearance: Very dark red and almost black when not held near light. Fizzy light tan head that is being constantly replenished by the rush of effervescence from the bottom of the glass. Good clarity as well considering it's bottle-conditioned.

Aroma: Quite a balanced mix of sour cherry and sweet raisin. Mellow yet aromatic.

Taste: Starts with a nice jab from the sour yeast strain. Tart cherry sticks out to me as the main fruit flavor. The sour aspect of the beer is mostly in the first half and right when it is about to alarm the palate with its tart flavor, the mood shifts and the brown lambic aspects take over. Sweet raisin and hearty fruits take over, immediately balancing out the sour flavor and giving a rich finish. The only giveaway that this beer is only 5.5% ABV is that there is no heat or any warming sensation. It is surprisingly full of flavor. The oak-aging has definitely done it's job and made this one mellow brew.

Mouthfeel: About medium in body with lots of carbonation that keeps it feeling light and airy. Great drinkability and possibly sessionable if you like this style. Definitely easy enough to finish a large format bottle with a friend or on your own.

Final Thoughts: I've only had a handful of sour ales but Bellegems Bruin will definitely stick out in my mind as one of the most drinker-friendly. While it's not quite as tart as I had hoped for, its smooth and mellow nature makes up for that. Would I drink it again? Yes, especially if sharing with someone who is curious to try the style.

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.94/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap 4/26/2013 at Track 84 in Warwick, RI, served in a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark reddish brown color, with a short off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains Belgian yeast, esters, tart fruit and light caramelized malts.

T: The taste starts with tart dark fruits. Then some light Belgian yeast breadiness comes in along with a touch of hops to create a good balance for the style. The after-taste is slightly tart.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is dry.

O: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, mild kick, good representation of style, this is a solid beer to drink for a while if you’re in the mood for the style.

Photo of notchucknorris
4.29/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours a deep brown color with a huge fizzing and foamy tan head. Pretty good retention.

S: Toasted oak, vanilla, juicy red delicious apple, and a touch of funk. Not a funk bomb, but it's there. Smells pretty nice.

T: Really well made. The sweetness and tartness are very well balanced, leaving a beer that sour and non-sour fans alike should really like. A nice mix of red grapes, slightly tart cherries, velvety smooth malt, red and green apple and some raisin. Tart but not overly sour. Very nice.

Photo of tjsdomer2
4.33/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: Amber with white foam and great lacing in a goblet.

Smell: Wild yeast and strawberries. Balsamic vinegar.

Taste/Mouthfeel: More wild yeast, strawberries, and balsamic. Cheese-like. Definitely some funky fermentation involved in this. Clean mouthfeel that is a bit too thin.

Overall: Like a wild ale, I would love to try more of this style.

Photo of erickehoe
4.52/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark ruby red with excellent lacing.

A elegant, lemony smell.

Beautiful sour yeast! The Belgiany yeast is great. Starts with nice mix of fruit and light malty flavor. Finishes with a cleansing yeast, subtle hop dryness.

Light and bubbly carbonation on the mouthfeel. Rolling, gentle, sweet.

One of my favorite beers.

Photo of GuzzLah
3.19/5  rDev -21%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A - pours a clear brown with a touch of red. Short tan head with some lace. No bubbles.

S - mild aroma of prunes, malt and maybe some cherry. A swirl wakes it up and it becomes more like Merlot.

T - like the aroma with soft dark malt and a sweet red grape note. Low acidity and tartness for the style.

M - medium body. Low-medium carbonation. Fairly sweet with a little bit of tartness.

O - nothing offensive here and nothing spectacular. Conservative flavor and aroma that didn't do much for me.

Photo of snaotheus
4.5/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

12 (or 11.2) oz bottle poured into a large snifter

Pours medium brown with a medium amount of pale white head. Plenty of fine active carbonation. Smell is a pretty sour, tartness of cherries and plums with a slight hint of lemon. My wife, who loves sours but is currently pregnant, won't give it back because she wants to keep smelling it.

Taste matches the smell. It's a nice pretty bright sour, fruity and summery. Really, really nice.

Mouthfeel is light but slightly filmy. Overall, I'm sold on Bockor beers at this point. I like this a lot.

Photo of Beelzebeer
4.44/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

8oz bottle, served in tulip. No dates, just Batch 02. I bought it 2-3 years ago.

A - Quick dissipating head, beautiful brown-red body.

S - Sour and tart. Some fruit, but mostly sour.

T - Tart, some cherries, vinegar, a little biscuit.

M - Beautiful! I think the age has eliminated some of the carbonation, but beautiful feel. I'd really like to see how this is fresh.

Photo of mclynch
4.28/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Described as a blend of a brown ale & an 18 month old lambic. A nice refreshing sour. Good carbonation and assertive tartness at first but then drops off quickly. Thin mouthfeel... leaves you wanting more. Successive sips build the mouthfeel. Nice almost sour cherry taste without being mediciny at all. A bit pricey but a very nice flanders brown. I will buy this again, but probably for special occasions.

Photo of The3rdbeer
4.38/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 Oz bottle poured into a Ridel beer glass right down the center which produced a finger and a half of fine thick head which stuck around for 45 seconds which faded into a centimeter thick of reddish tan lacing.

A- Love the color of the head, almost a reddish tan, so far after 2 mintes the lacing still remains thick and nice while sticking to the glass. The color of the beer itself is the same hue as the red trim around the label on the bottle. Ruby red that you can see through with very fine effervescence.

S- Flanders for sure, tart popery bouquet, bing cherry, dried raspberry, yeasty. Had to really aerate the beer to get the nose in, not very detectable otherwise hence the low score in this category.

T- Flanders for sure, I really appreciate how mellow this beer is tart cranberry which rolls wet for a long time down the palate to later show the cherry and grape skin hinting at the dry finish. Great session beer.

M- Starts wet with lite carbonation and ends dry. lite body, very user friendly. First step on the ladder to Flanders style beers.

O- Very pleased, not only does it have that signature Flanders nose and flavor profile but its also low in ABV and would be a great session or first beer in a Flanders Flight!
Will buy again.

Photo of ccrida
4.71/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

33cl bottle (batch code 04) poured into my large Gulden Draak tulip, Bellegems Bruin is a dark amber with a tan head leaving heavy, foamy brussels lace - textbook really.

Smell is first sweet than sour, cider vinegar, with a touch of must.

Taste is very bright cherry, abruptly cut by a moderately acidic, dry finish. A touch of caramel, apple cider. Really spot on with the style, a nice quick shock with a fairly clean, modestly malty finish.

Mouthfeel is slippery, light and dry.

Drinkability is phenomenal, this is a close to perfect as it gets, a benchmark example of the style.

Vanderghinste Oud Bruin from Brouwerij Bockor N.V.
90 out of 100 based on 707 ratings.