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Mayan Mocha Stout - Odd Side Ales

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Mayan Mocha StoutMayan Mocha Stout

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64 Reviews
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Reviews: 64
Hads: 446
Avg: 3.87
pDev: 11.37%
Wants: 27
Gots: 99 | FT: 11
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Stout |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: emerge077 on 03-28-2012

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Photo of Trent
2.52/5  rDev -34.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Sorry, I just didn't like this beer. Two sips and an unfortunate drain pour.

There is definitely a habenero kick to it, which lingers. The other components work against each othe, IMO. The mouthfeel is oddly smooth for a beer with this type of bite on the back end.

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Photo of kevanb
2.84/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.75

12oz bottle poured into a stemless wine glass.

The beer pours a deep jet black color, very opaque with a thick, foamy head, khaki in color, that rises about 3 fingers high that has moderate retention but leaves no lace behind. The aroma is peculiar, lots of chocolatey malt, rich and sweet, light coffee grounds behind it, the nutmeg and cinnamon are surprisingly potent, but don't really offer any balance to the grain and coffee with vegetal habañero sneaking up at the end, subtly so, but with enough force to push this aroma further off the weird cliff. The flavors are unbalanced, messy and rather unpleasant. Lots of rich, sweet chocolatey malt, stale coffee grounds hit first followed by the spicing, mostly nutmeg with light cinnamon and allspice flavors before the oniony, vegetal, habañero heats up the finish. I have to applaud the fact that the pepper is mild, subtle and adds only a light heat to the beer. The body is awful, thin, watery and lacks any finesse. It struggles to coat the mouth, despite the lively head, fails to dance on the tongue and finishes meekly.

Verdict: An ambitious beer that really misses the mark. I do have to say that I appreciate that all the adjuncts are notably represented in the beer, and that the habañero isn't too overpowering. However, the balance is poor, the body lacks any substance and it just all around fails to redeem in any way.

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Photo of bgold86
3/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Was really looking forward to this, boy what a disappointment. Bottles poured into two snifters and there was a crap ton, and I mean a crap ton ofover flowing head. Beer was supremely thin with a nice habanero kick but not much else, let it warm to make sure, no coffee, no cinnamon..what a waste of what should have been a tasty treat of a beer.

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Photo of BrewUSA
3.07/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.25

Look 9/10
Smell 17/20
Taste 20/40
Feel 7/10
Drinkability 8/20

Overall 61/100

Summery: Not going to bash it... The spice just is NOT my style~

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Photo of ThickNStout
3.24/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

12oz bottle from LambicPentameter (thanks!). No apparent bottling date. Served in a Burnt Hickory snifter.

Pours blackish brown, like cola, with a finger and a half cap of khaki head. The bubbles shrink to a thin veil and a substantial collar that leaves swaths of chunky lace.

Smells of cinnamon, nutmeg, mocha and cola. A tad mild for all the great adjuncts that went into this but still smells alright.

Tastes of nutmeg, habaneros, cinnamon, coffee, cocoa powder and caramel. It goes down quite easily but, as in the nose, it is rather mild.

Fairly light body with moderate carbonation. Aftertaste of some chili heat and spiced mochacinno.

OddSide seems to have made a semi "sessionable" version of the increasingly popular Mexican chocolate stout. For my tastes this lacks the oomph and character I prefer but Mayan Mocha Stout is pretty darn flavorful considering it has about half the alcohol found in many Mexican chocolate stouts.

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Photo of CMUbrew
3.34/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

A: Very dark brown-black with a fair dark brown head on top.

S: An inviting aroma of cinnamon, nutmeg, and coffee in that order.

T: Coffee comes in first and is followed by a nutmeg overload. Cinnamon comes next. Pepper heat is quite low by my taste, but it is noticeable. Aftertaste is a lingering spiciness (from the spices). Honestly, the coffee does not work overly well with the spices and pepper.

M: Could stand to have some more body.

O: If you're going to put mocha in the name of your beer, you need to have coffee and CHOCOLATE. Having chocolate in this beer would improve it by leaps and bounds, as it would compliment the coffee and pepper very well and keep the spices from being too cloying. Hopefully we will see another version of this from Oddside with chocolate. That would be a great beer.

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Photo of SometimesIfart
3.34/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

OddSide Ales Mayan Mocha Stout.

Been getting into these peppered beer more and more lately. Saw " Habaneros " on the list of ingredients so I'm hoping it has a good level of heat. More or leas I was curious to see how they balance the flavors in this beer. Picked up a single for $2.79 at Jake's Liquor in Monroe, Michigan as part of a mix a six. Enough chit chat shit shat, let's dive in.

Look - From the twelve ounce bottle into a pint glass. Pours a deep and impenetrable black with a finger and a half of moderately mocha colored head that doesn't stick around long, quickly dying down to a moderately thick cloud formation upon the top of the swill and a thicker ring around the glass. Carbonation is impossible to read due to how dark the beer is. No lacing remains after the beer is gone.

Smell - The cinnamon and nutmeg are HUGE in the nose. I really don't get much in the way of any stout qualities here at all. Smells a lot more like a winter warmer than a stout. The heat from the peppers cab be felt through the nostrils but it isn't enough to make you contemplate for a moment on taking a sip. aside from the heat there is no vegetative pepper smell that sometimes comes through in these types of beers.

Taste - Once again cinnamon and nutmeg dominant. The coffee becomes present though it isn't very pronounced. The heat comes through stronger than in the scent but it is a very quick shot and dies down almost immediately after the swallow though lingers around the mouth mildly. Once again this beer tastes more like a peppered winter warmer than any kind of stout I've ever had.

Feel - Body is somehow thick and coating or watery and thin seemingly depending on the sip you take. Once again the cinnamon dominates heavily in the mouth with the heat coming through upon the swallow but not being nearly habanero in strenght. Beer swallows with a lower amount of heavyness and the cinnamon sits around the mouth for what seems like an eternity.

Overall - They went way too heavy on the cinnamon with this beer. Not many stout qualities to be noticed. The heat wasn't as much as I had expected seeing as it was brewed with habanero peppers. Much closer to a winter warmer than a stout, and even then the cinnamon needs to be toned down. Not a bad beer overall, but not something I will return to. I'd like to see them drop the christmas spices and brew a more traditional stout with habaneroes and actually ensure they come through. Maybe it's just the fact I love ultra hot foods that makes these seem very tame to me. Who knows..

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Photo of moonboogie_n8
3.39/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

oh my, those habaneros are a little too much.
a little bit UNbalanced in my opinion. it takes away from every other flavor and experience.
I like spicy foods, but not spicy drinks, so there ya go.
when the other flavors do come through, its immediately taken away with pepper.
i bet it would be a nice chocolate stout if it wanted.
never again.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.46/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Black body. Small khaki head. Very thin collar.

Smell - Graham cracker, which is clearly from the cinnamon. Chocolate. A little pepper.

Taste - Peppers are stronger. A faint burn, too. Chocolate and cinnamon, although the cinnamon is a bit overwhelmed by the pepper.

Mouthfeel - Medium body. Not a heavy stout at all.

Overall - Nice adjuncts, even if they overpower the beer.

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Photo of NolaHopHead
3.48/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle. Pours dark root beer brown, thick tan head fades quickly. Aroma is cocoa and spice. Many different flavors in this stout, chocolate coffee, vanilla, burnt notes, but the pepper heat is what stands out to me the most. Mouthfeel is thin. Tasty Mexican stout, a bit too much heat I think. Still enjoyed it though.

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Photo of NuckleDragger
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

The flavor on this beer is great. I found the spice from the habanero was hiding on the bottom with the settled yeast. The only thing holding this beer back was the mouthfeel. I found it very watery.

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
3.53/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Another6Pack for this one! 12 oz bottle into a teku.

Appearance: Pours a dark brown color that's almost pitch black. The head is a finger high, and khaki in shade. Retention is unimpressive, and the texture doesn't leave much lacing behind. (3)

Smell: Wow, there's a lot going on here. Mostly, it's the cinnamon and nutmeg I'm picking up - these spice notes could have been harsh, yet they're nicely ballasted by the pleasant chocolate elements. I'm getting the lighest hint of habanero pepper when this opens up. One niggle: I wanted the base stout to come through a little better. At least it nails the Mexican chocolate character extremely well. (3.75)

Taste: The first flavor I pick up is light habanero pepper flesh - it's quite fruity in particular. Subtle spicing transitions into a spicy finish, with hints of chocolate throughout. Only thing to complain about is that it needs more roast from the base stout. Whatever, I enjoy this a lot. (3.75)

Mouthfeel: I think this is too thin, and not nearly creamy enough for my tastes. It doesn't finish dry enough, either. This is where the beer lets down - the general mouthfeel doesn't do the unique flavor profile any justice. Carbonation is slightly above average for the style. (2.5)

Overall: Warts and all, I really enjoy this beer's unusual character. It might be too spicy for some, however. Apart from the lacking mouthfeel, this is a rock-solid beer that's hits my habanero craving right on the bulls-eye. Recommended. (3.5)

3.53/5: Good chocolate, really good hot peppers...not-so-good mouthfeel

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Photo of jzeilinger
3.54/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a dark chocolate color with a two fingered toffee colored head.

S - Dark roasted chocolate, some coffee beans, and hot peppers to give it a slight amount of sting in the nose.

T - Follows the nose with dark sweet chocolate malt, dark roasted cocoa, light toffee, and a peppery burn at the very end of the sip.

M - Medium to light medium body with minimal bubble pricklies on the tongue and a hot pepper burn in the back of the throat.

O - Needs more body but dig the hot pepper burn.

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Photo of andrewjraab
3.54/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

A - Black velvet, with a back drop of reddish glow. Big creamy mocha head that weaves a web of lace after each drink.

S - Coffee beans, vanilla extract, licorice, syrup, bananas.

T - Opens with a rich chocolate, followed by root beer, vanilla, coffee, and finishes with with some heat. Bitter and a bit of an odd after taste.

O - This is a very unique stout with some heat in the back end. Very impressive look to this along with an inviting smell that works into a really solid tasting brew. Loses points with a bad aftertaste and mouthfeel. I will not get this again.

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Photo of JohnZupan
3.62/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A - dark black with a rich, tan head. Head dissipated quickly, leaving a ring of bubbles.

S - chocolate with a hint of cinnamon; ripened fruit.

T - very chocolaty upfront with a lingering coffee taste

M - oily, light and slightly chewy

O - very rich, chocolate and coffee overwhelm

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.62/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours an opaque black with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, cocoa, and cinnamon aromas. Taste is much the same with cocoa, cinnamon, and pepper flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with nice cocoa and cinnamon qualities all around.

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Photo of SerialTicker
3.62/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

$4.50 for a 16oz draft at Boat Works in St. Clair Shores, Michigan.

Alright, this isn't what I was expecting. I saw this on the menu and hadn't heard of it ... BeerAdvocate let me know that this was by Odd Side, so I knew I had to try it out. Well, hm. Alright, so it comes pitch black with a dark tan head -- about what you'd expect from a stout. There's a nice little head on it, but no lacing lasts throughout the glass. The smell on this is quite a bit of chocolate with some traces of cinnamon/nutmeg. The taste is like the smell... but far more pungent. There's a significant cinnamon and nutmeg sort of taste on top of the chocolate... to the point where there's a spicy burn in the back of the throat. It's not bad, but I feel like this should really be a Winter seasonal. I was expecting a chocolate/coffee sort of stout, but Odd Side threw this curve at me, which I should have been sitting on.

Mayan Mocha Stout is a pretty good beer, but I'd appreciate it more if it were winter. Sorry, but I don't like much (especially THIS much) cinnamon/nutmeg and/or similar tastes in my stouts during the summer. For what it's worth, I'd only bump my score *slightly* either way. Definitely a unique stout, so give it a whirl.

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Photo of woodchip
3.64/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Has potential, nose and look are solid, but the taste and feel are disappointing. Drinks more like a porter than a stout, lacking viscosity. Like the touch of spice though.

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Photo of Stevedore
3.64/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, thanks to Nesto114. Thanks David. Poured into an unlabeled snifter today, 1/21/2014.

App- Dark black body, opaque, 1cm mocha head, fair retention, bits of lacing.

Smell- Dark chocolate, coffee, cocoa, faint cinnamon, hint of vanilla.

Flavour- Cocoa, chocolate, a little bit of cinnamon on the back end, other spices. Slightly vegetal, faint pepper warmth on the back end.

Mouthfeel- Thin, watery body with ok carbonation. Aftertaste is a vegetal heat likely from peppers. Not strongly hot in terms of spiciness.

Overall- The smell got me interested, flavour kept me interested but the mouthfeel absolutely derailed this beer. It wouldn't hurt to get some more body in there.

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Photo of morimech
3.68/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Dense black in the glass with a solid two finger head that was slow to settle. A thick cap remains and a lot of sticky lacing is left down the glass. Definitely smell cinnamon and nutmeg. Notes of smoke, roasted malt, and a faint trace of mocha. After the first sip you realize this is not subtly spiced. Blast of cinnamon and nutmeg. Not getting much of the coffee or mocha but I am getting some habanero heat in the finish. Pleasant but not the least bit punishing heat. Does not really taste like a very good stout is laying a very good foundation for the other flavors for it to get overpowered so easily. Pleasant body and carbonation gives a full, creamy mouthfeel. Maybe this example was a little old and the coffee faded but who is to know when there is no bottle date.

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Photo of kawilliams81
3.7/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from growler into pint glass.

A- Pours black with a 1 finger tan head. Minimal lacing.

S- Chocolate, cinnamon, slight pepper aroma.

T- Sweet chocolate, cinnamon, big pepper flavors with some heat, slight lactose taste.

M- Medium body and low carbonation. Smooth and easy drinking besides the spice.

O- Nice and different stout. Lacks some body but has a nice peppery kick.

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Photo of brutusmuktuk
3.71/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown beer with a brown head. Smells like chocolate and coffee. Has a strong coffee flavor, with a hint of nutmeg and cinnamon, and has a nice burn from the habanero at the end. A little harsh, but still enjoyable. Surprisingly, the bourbon barrel aged version seems a little sweeter and has less of a bite than this. I really enjoy the concept, and beers like this is the reason I admire Odd Side Ales for their creativity.

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Photo of DragonzBreath
3.74/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Had this beer at Slows Barbecue.
Was pleasantly surprised. Big smell Huge taste. Served in a brandy snifter this beer hits your lips with vanilla and chocolate. as it move to the back of your throat you start to feel the heat. Oh yes and wait for it..BAM..cloves(?) chilies (?) wow -lingering heat.. Went superb with my Brisket..I will be looking for this in bottles (i Hope)

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Photo of Wolvmar
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

My first review so this will be brief and echo others....pours with a thin head which was a little surprising. Great chocolate and spice flavors with a perfect amount, for me, of Habanero on the back end. Very interesting drink that grows on you. Only negative, as others have noted, is the watery mouthfeel. Maybe not a go to beer that you always have on hand but certainly one to try and to savor on occasion.

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Photo of docoman
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

I like spicy beers and was very curious how a coffee, spice and Habanero pepper flavored beer would come together... overall a good beer, definitely drinkable, but you must like spicy things to enjoy... I could see myself drinking 1-2 at a time, but no more than that in single evening.

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Mayan Mocha Stout from Odd Side Ales
87 out of 100 based on 64 ratings.