Mayan Mocha Stout - Odd Side Ales

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88
very good

386 Ratings
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Ratings: 386
Reviews: 56
rAvg: 3.9
pDev: 11.28%
Wants: 25
Gots: 73 | FT: 9
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Michigan, United States

Style | ABV
American Stout |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: emerge077 on 03-28-2012

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Photo of Trent
2.52/5  rDev -35.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Sorry, I just didn't like this beer. Two sips and an unfortunate drain pour.

There is definitely a habenero kick to it, which lingers. The other components work against each othe, IMO. The mouthfeel is oddly smooth for a beer with this type of bite on the back end.

Photo of tgates
2.76/5  rDev -29.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

A subpar stout infused with excessive heat to compensate.

Photo of kevanb
2.84/5  rDev -27.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.75

12oz bottle poured into a stemless wine glass.

The beer pours a deep jet black color, very opaque with a thick, foamy head, khaki in color, that rises about 3 fingers high that has moderate retention but leaves no lace behind. The aroma is peculiar, lots of chocolatey malt, rich and sweet, light coffee grounds behind it, the nutmeg and cinnamon are surprisingly potent, but don't really offer any balance to the grain and coffee with vegetal habañero sneaking up at the end, subtly so, but with enough force to push this aroma further off the weird cliff. The flavors are unbalanced, messy and rather unpleasant. Lots of rich, sweet chocolatey malt, stale coffee grounds hit first followed by the spicing, mostly nutmeg with light cinnamon and allspice flavors before the oniony, vegetal, habañero heats up the finish. I have to applaud the fact that the pepper is mild, subtle and adds only a light heat to the beer. The body is awful, thin, watery and lacks any finesse. It struggles to coat the mouth, despite the lively head, fails to dance on the tongue and finishes meekly.

Verdict: An ambitious beer that really misses the mark. I do have to say that I appreciate that all the adjuncts are notably represented in the beer, and that the habañero isn't too overpowering. However, the balance is poor, the body lacks any substance and it just all around fails to redeem in any way.

Photo of DeadWalkerAir
3.05/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

I thought this was thin and very spicy for my tastes. Someone else may like it

Photo of BrewUSA
3.07/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.25

Look 9/10
Smell 17/20
Taste 20/40
Feel 7/10
Drinkability 8/20

Overall 61/100

Summery: Not going to bash it... The spice just is NOT my style~

Photo of CMUbrew
3.34/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

A: Very dark brown-black with a fair dark brown head on top.

S: An inviting aroma of cinnamon, nutmeg, and coffee in that order.

T: Coffee comes in first and is followed by a nutmeg overload. Cinnamon comes next. Pepper heat is quite low by my taste, but it is noticeable. Aftertaste is a lingering spiciness (from the spices). Honestly, the coffee does not work overly well with the spices and pepper.

M: Could stand to have some more body.

O: If you're going to put mocha in the name of your beer, you need to have coffee and CHOCOLATE. Having chocolate in this beer would improve it by leaps and bounds, as it would compliment the coffee and pepper very well and keep the spices from being too cloying. Hopefully we will see another version of this from Oddside with chocolate. That would be a great beer.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.46/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Black body. Small khaki head. Very thin collar.

Smell - Graham cracker, which is clearly from the cinnamon. Chocolate. A little pepper.

Taste - Peppers are stronger. A faint burn, too. Chocolate and cinnamon, although the cinnamon is a bit overwhelmed by the pepper.

Mouthfeel - Medium body. Not a heavy stout at all.

Overall - Nice adjuncts, even if they overpower the beer.

Photo of NuckleDragger
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

The flavor on this beer is great. I found the spice from the habanero was hiding on the bottom with the settled yeast. The only thing holding this beer back was the mouthfeel. I found it very watery.

Photo of ThisWangsChung
3.53/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Another6Pack for this one! 12 oz bottle into a teku.

Appearance: Pours a dark brown color that's almost pitch black. The head is a finger high, and khaki in shade. Retention is unimpressive, and the texture doesn't leave much lacing behind. (3)

Smell: Wow, there's a lot going on here. Mostly, it's the cinnamon and nutmeg I'm picking up - these spice notes could have been harsh, yet they're nicely ballasted by the pleasant chocolate elements. I'm getting the lighest hint of habanero pepper when this opens up. One niggle: I wanted the base stout to come through a little better. At least it nails the Mexican chocolate character extremely well. (3.75)

Taste: The first flavor I pick up is light habanero pepper flesh - it's quite fruity in particular. Subtle spicing transitions into a spicy finish, with hints of chocolate throughout. Only thing to complain about is that it needs more roast from the base stout. Whatever, I enjoy this a lot. (3.75)

Mouthfeel: I think this is too thin, and not nearly creamy enough for my tastes. It doesn't finish dry enough, either. This is where the beer lets down - the general mouthfeel doesn't do the unique flavor profile any justice. Carbonation is slightly above average for the style. (2.5)

Overall: Warts and all, I really enjoy this beer's unusual character. It might be too spicy for some, however. Apart from the lacking mouthfeel, this is a rock-solid beer that's hits my habanero craving right on the bulls-eye. Recommended. (3.5)

3.53/5: Good chocolate, really good hot peppers...not-so-good mouthfeel

Photo of jzeilinger
3.54/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a dark chocolate color with a two fingered toffee colored head.

S - Dark roasted chocolate, some coffee beans, and hot peppers to give it a slight amount of sting in the nose.

T - Follows the nose with dark sweet chocolate malt, dark roasted cocoa, light toffee, and a peppery burn at the very end of the sip.

M - Medium to light medium body with minimal bubble pricklies on the tongue and a hot pepper burn in the back of the throat.

O - Needs more body but dig the hot pepper burn.

Photo of andrewjraab
3.54/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

A - Black velvet, with a back drop of reddish glow. Big creamy mocha head that weaves a web of lace after each drink.

S - Coffee beans, vanilla extract, licorice, syrup, bananas.

T - Opens with a rich chocolate, followed by root beer, vanilla, coffee, and finishes with with some heat. Bitter and a bit of an odd after taste.

O - This is a very unique stout with some heat in the back end. Very impressive look to this along with an inviting smell that works into a really solid tasting brew. Loses points with a bad aftertaste and mouthfeel. I will not get this again.

Photo of snoopy5023
3.6/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Nice smell. Not a fan of the habanero. The heat of the habanero on the tonsils detracts the taste of the cinnamon, nutmeg and coffee.

Photo of JohnZupan
3.62/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A - dark black with a rich, tan head. Head dissipated quickly, leaving a ring of bubbles.

S - chocolate with a hint of cinnamon; ripened fruit.

T - very chocolaty upfront with a lingering coffee taste

M - oily, light and slightly chewy

O - very rich, chocolate and coffee overwhelm

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.62/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours an opaque black with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, cocoa, and cinnamon aromas. Taste is much the same with cocoa, cinnamon, and pepper flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with nice cocoa and cinnamon qualities all around.

Photo of SerialTicker
3.62/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

$4.50 for a 16oz draft at Boat Works in St. Clair Shores, Michigan.

Alright, this isn't what I was expecting. I saw this on the menu and hadn't heard of it ... BeerAdvocate let me know that this was by Odd Side, so I knew I had to try it out. Well, hm. Alright, so it comes pitch black with a dark tan head -- about what you'd expect from a stout. There's a nice little head on it, but no lacing lasts throughout the glass. The smell on this is quite a bit of chocolate with some traces of cinnamon/nutmeg. The taste is like the smell... but far more pungent. There's a significant cinnamon and nutmeg sort of taste on top of the chocolate... to the point where there's a spicy burn in the back of the throat. It's not bad, but I feel like this should really be a Winter seasonal. I was expecting a chocolate/coffee sort of stout, but Odd Side threw this curve at me, which I should have been sitting on.

Mayan Mocha Stout is a pretty good beer, but I'd appreciate it more if it were winter. Sorry, but I don't like much (especially THIS much) cinnamon/nutmeg and/or similar tastes in my stouts during the summer. For what it's worth, I'd only bump my score *slightly* either way. Definitely a unique stout, so give it a whirl.

Photo of Stevedore
3.64/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle, thanks to Nesto114. Thanks David. Poured into an unlabeled snifter today, 1/21/2014.

App- Dark black body, opaque, 1cm mocha head, fair retention, bits of lacing.

Smell- Dark chocolate, coffee, cocoa, faint cinnamon, hint of vanilla.

Flavour- Cocoa, chocolate, a little bit of cinnamon on the back end, other spices. Slightly vegetal, faint pepper warmth on the back end.

Mouthfeel- Thin, watery body with ok carbonation. Aftertaste is a vegetal heat likely from peppers. Not strongly hot in terms of spiciness.

Overall- The smell got me interested, flavour kept me interested but the mouthfeel absolutely derailed this beer. It wouldn't hurt to get some more body in there.

Photo of finlayj
3.65/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pretty odd combination of flavors. Not a fan of the spice at all. Taste matches the smell then the spice lingers...too long. Try it, once.

Photo of kawilliams81
3.7/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from growler into pint glass.

A- Pours black with a 1 finger tan head. Minimal lacing.

S- Chocolate, cinnamon, slight pepper aroma.

T- Sweet chocolate, cinnamon, big pepper flavors with some heat, slight lactose taste.

M- Medium body and low carbonation. Smooth and easy drinking besides the spice.

O- Nice and different stout. Lacks some body but has a nice peppery kick.

Photo of brutusmuktuk
3.71/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown beer with a brown head. Smells like chocolate and coffee. Has a strong coffee flavor, with a hint of nutmeg and cinnamon, and has a nice burn from the habanero at the end. A little harsh, but still enjoyable. Surprisingly, the bourbon barrel aged version seems a little sweeter and has less of a bite than this. I really enjoy the concept, and beers like this is the reason I admire Odd Side Ales for their creativity.

Photo of DragonzBreath
3.74/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Had this beer at Slows Barbecue.
Was pleasantly surprised. Big smell Huge taste. Served in a brandy snifter this beer hits your lips with vanilla and chocolate. as it move to the back of your throat you start to feel the heat. Oh yes and wait for it..BAM..cloves(?) chilies (?) wow -lingering heat.. Went superb with my Brisket..I will be looking for this in bottles (i Hope)

Photo of Wolvmar
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

My first review so this will be brief and echo others....pours with a thin head which was a little surprising. Great chocolate and spice flavors with a perfect amount, for me, of Habanero on the back end. Very interesting drink that grows on you. Only negative, as others have noted, is the watery mouthfeel. Maybe not a go to beer that you always have on hand but certainly one to try and to savor on occasion.

Photo of docoman
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

I like spicy beers and was very curious how a coffee, spice and Habanero pepper flavored beer would come together... overall a good beer, definitely drinkable, but you must like spicy things to enjoy... I could see myself drinking 1-2 at a time, but no more than that in single evening.

Photo of wingman14
3.8/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Pours a thick black with little mocha head. The smell is sweet with heavy chocolate and coffee notes, with a few hints of cinnamon as well. The taste starts sweet and heavy, with the spices coming on then finishing very spicy with some heat. Almost like a chili pepper beer. It has a heavy thick mouthfeel, smooth, with very little carbonation. Overall a drinkable beer but the spicy finish deters me from liking it.

Photo of jlindros
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to rudzud for sharing.

9/17/14

Nice creamy darker head fades very slowly, decent lacing and nice legs, pitch black beer thick dark.

Nose nice thick fudgey cocoa and dark chocolate, nougat chocolate, bakers choc, caramel, hint of licorice, bit of pepper like smoked or cayenne pepper.

Taste brings lots of fluffy fudgey cocoa, fluffy nougat, caramel, lactose milk chocolate, little coffee milk, etc. Mild pepper heat, more like chili pepper than habanero as I don't really get the habanero flavor. Finish is dry slightly sticky, more pepper heat esp on the back of the throat, little fudgey cocoa and caramel.

Mouth is thick and fudgey, little creamy and milky, no real booze but decent pepper heat, nice carb.

Overall good, nice pepper but not really habanero flavor, nice dark fluffy nougat chocolate, enjoyable.

Photo of AnchorDrops
3.97/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Smells like chocolate and the taste follows up front, some coffee and creamy smoothness in the middle. It then leaves you with mild lingering pepper. By far the best pepper infused beer I have tried, the pepper is there but never overbearing. I will definitely buy this again.

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Mayan Mocha Stout from Odd Side Ales
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