Smoked & Oaked Belgian-Style Ale - Epic Brewing Company
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1.68/5 rDev -56.7%
Unappealing appearance. Ugly mid-brown, opaque shade that looked cloudy, even muddy.
Smell was an even greater put-off.
The drinking buddy pulled it off the tip of my tongue when he said it smelled like meat. I didn't get meat in the smell, but I certainly do in the flavor - cured, sweet meat. Indeed, the flavor is not too far from Rogue's Voodoo Donut, in certain ways. The Belgian yeast certainly maintains a difference in flavor, but it ends up providing the factor of sweetness that brought the voodoo to mind (which contained maple).
In my opinion, it's not smoky enough. The smoked aspect seemed to be what came through as a bit of salt, and even more-so meat. Which I wouldn't choose as a flavor in any sort of beverage, save maybe bacon bloody marys. The oak was lacking as well, being completely overwhelmed by yeast and malt, and, if anything, contributing to the carnivorous off-flavors.
I was pretty excited about this - I tend to favor both smoked and oaked beers of various styles, but the Belgian sweetness and the weak oakysmokiness didn't pair well at all.
Could the bottle have gone bad?
12-27-2012 08:17:25 | More by TheBigLebrewski
2/5 rDev -48.5%
1800 Bottles Produced
Poured into a chalice a amber color, some carbonation, fizzy white head, which leaves pretty quickly, with some sticky lacing. The nose is, malty, with some yeast, caramel. The taste is malty, yeast note. Medium body. Barely Drinkable.
07-11-2010 21:09:10 | More by Wasatch
2.38/5 rDev -38.7%
22oz bottle from the brewery, into an old school NB globe. I think it was around $12. Release #2, 8.8% abv.
A: Pours a burnt sienna color with a stark white head, not quite an inch or so that recedes to a thin cap of bubbles and a few chunks of lacing. Fairly cloudy. A few spots of lacing as the head recedes. Not a bad looking beer.
S: I'm not sure if this is supposed to be infected, but I get some very distinct lacto sour/funky notes from the nose mixed with some yeasty esters and at the back a hint of peat smoke. Decent bit of booze here. Not pleasant.
T: Once again, not sure what the hell they were shooting for here. I get notes of caramel, barbequed pork, banana, cherries, smoke, whiskey, oak, and this odd out of place tart flavor way at the end. Fairly estery in there as well with a few additional notes of cloves and apples as well. Incredibly sweet. This is um...better than the nose leads on, but it is completely all over the place.
M: Medium body, light(er) carbonation, fairly boozey and warm, really really sticky on the finish, I don't think this quite got as dry as they wanted, and the oak aging definitely didn't help dry it out any either.
D: Really not for me, this beer is absolutely all over the place with caramel sweetness and a hint of smoke which work together, but the banana/cherry/tartness is odd expecially on top of massive sweetness in this beer. Maybe it is still a little on the young side, but I think they need to do some serious revisions to this one. Sorry, not a winner.
02-04-2011 02:56:40 | More by pokesbeerdude
2.45/5 rDev -36.9%
1 pint 6 fluid ounce brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into an EKU 28 snifter in me gaff in Los Angeles, California. Expectations are below average; I had a beer from this brewery before and I wasn't too keen on it.
Served a bit warmer than refrigerator cold and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.
A: Pours a somewhat pathetic head of a quarter finger, white colour, hardly any cream, decent thickness, and awful retention (even for the high ABV). Colour is a somewhat dark grapefruit-amber. Nontransparent but not opaque. Some floating yeast particles are visible.
Sm: Oak dominates the aroma, with yeast and hints of cherries. Some peat but not quite smoke. A strange off-the-wall aroma that is intriguing but not quite appealing. A mild strength aroma.
T: Some cherry juice notes that are far too strong and tart for the balance. Misplaced oak tones. Awkward peat. Vague fruit esters. A hint of alcohol. No yeast. The peat is too strong. Clean malts are backgrounded. Poorly constructed and badly balanced. The cherry feels artificial and is badly handled. Almost a bit vinegary. No layering, complexity, or subtlety. It's as though the brewers are using all these advanced brewing processes without having mastered the basics. Where's the balance?
Mf: Smooth and wet. Weak and thin. Not carbonated enough. Badly handled. Doesn't suit the flavour profile well at all.
Dr: What is with all the hype for this brewery? This is the second beer from them I've had that I haven't liked at all. Pricey for its limited quality. A big disappointment. I won't be purchasing another Epic Brewing beer unless it's recommended by a friend, has fantastic reviews, or is the only good option. Hard to drink because it's not good. Not quaffable. I wouldn't recommend this to friends or even to fans of the style. A terrible waste of advanced brewing methods and time.
04-07-2012 07:05:02 | More by kojevergas
2.75/5 rDev -29.1%
Inflatablechair opened this one a while back.. Thanks Sammy.
Pours a hazed orange with a decent lite tan head.
Nose is a pretty standard Belgian strong ale... overly phenolic IMO... tons of clove and quite a bit of band-aid... the phenols go a good way to masking the smoke and the oak... in fact, I get no oak at all... the smoke is more of a bacon aroma.
Flavor is about the same.... sorta acrid bacon with a syrup sweet maltiness... again, the phenols seem stale and medicinal.. tastes like a medicine chest... the sweetness is accentuated by a brutal estery presence... thick apricot and overripe plum.... not digging this one at all.
body and carbonation are both about right... medium...
I need to revisit this one, but I hesitate given the $$$ price tag.
12-28-2011 07:20:24 | More by JohnGalt1
2.98/5 rDev -23.2%
Served in a Duvel tulip glass.
Thanks to JayQue for this bottle!
Perhaps this would reach pure perfection if it were also yolked...? Either way, it pours a mostly clear magenta-ruby topped by a finger of light tan foam. The nose comprises caramel, candi sugar, banana, clove, light Band-Aid, and a small wave of honey-glazed ham after a little bit o' time sniffing at things. The taste holds notes of caramel, clove, black pepper, banana peel, vanilla, orange peel, honey, and a sort of bitter Band-Aid. The smoke isn't exactly pervasive, and never really achieves any kind of smokiness, just elastic strips that are used to stem the tide of blood flowing from breaks in the skin. All I know is that it doesn't taste very pleasant. The body is a straight medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a lightly syrupy feel. Overall, an okay beer, but the smoke (if you can call it that) doesn't help anything, and the oak does very little, if anything. Not really a fan, here...just disappointed...
11-18-2011 04:04:04 | More by TMoney2591
3.38/5 rDev -12.9%
An interesting beer for sure.
Pours a cloudy, almost 'chunky' looking way--looks a bit similar to an apple cider (non alcoholic kind).
Aroma is prett nice - both the oak and smoke come through. Caramelly sweet too. Vanilla.
Taste is what kind of throws me - again, both the oak (taste of whisky barrel) and smokiness are there. I like both of those favors in my beers, but combined, my jury is still out: like they are competing for my affection. How does one choose a favorite child? alcohol is quite present too, which seems to go well with the aforementioned whisky oak.
A lot going on in this brew. Worth a try, for sure. Curious to see where YOUR jury nets out!
12-02-2011 02:14:26 | More by chadlebald
3.43/5 rDev -11.6%
Pours clear amber with a small bubbly beige head that recedes and leaves little lacing.
Aroma is ever-so-slightly smoked with lots of sweet Belgian yeast esters and caramelized sugar.
Taste is more of the same with the sweetness of the Belgian yeast and dark fruits melding with the lightly smoked malts.
Mouthfeel is light bodied for the style with soft carbonation.
This is a subtle beer all the way around. Light sweetness, light smokiness, easy drinking but nothing memorable.
03-29-2012 02:53:59 | More by gford217
District of Columbia
3.43/5 rDev -11.6%
I got this beer as a birthday gift, and was finally brave enough to try it the other night. I had a bad experience with scotch once, and just can't get past that taste and smell. Unfortunately, this beer was very scotch-like (which for most people is probably a good thing!), so I can't say I enjoyed it. I do think it's a well-crafted beer however, despite my aversion to it.
08-17-2012 17:53:13 | More by alysmith4
3.48/5 rDev -10.3%
A - Pours a hazy raisin chestnut brown color with a small amount of head retention and a fairly thin, cream colored lacing ring. Hazy when cold and clears as the beer warms.
S - Dark Belgian candy sugar, caramel toffee malt, figs, raisins, and bready thick aroma.
T - A mixture of of whisky/bourbon, sweet caramel and toffee bread-like malt, oak, vanilla, , some cherries, and prunes.
M - Thick, full bodied, slippery, and sticky with alcohol warming in the back of the the throat.
O - The first thing that comes to mind is "thick and boozy". The smoke character was completely gone but I'm reviewing Batch #9 and I believe the Batch # is now somewhere around 18 so it's to be expected. I'd like to try a newer batch because this is drinking more like a barleywine right now.
09-24-2013 01:18:27 | More by jzeilinger
Smoked & Oaked Belgian-Style Ale from Epic Brewing Company
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