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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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very good

345 Ratings
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Ratings: 345
Reviews: 121
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 11.23%
Wants: 19
Gots: 27 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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dunix

Vermont

2/5  rDev -47.8%

03-19-2014 18:16:26 | More by dunix
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cofeeguru

Minnesota

2.25/5  rDev -41.3%

10-10-2012 02:37:03 | More by cofeeguru
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7ate9

Virginia

2.33/5  rDev -39.2%

Pours nice and black with an attractive small-bead foam tan head. The sniff is not attractive, what little of it there is. Even after warming there is barely a thing to snuff on. Mild roast, slight veggie pumkin-squashiness, but most prominent is a metallic taste. I can only smell spices if I try to imagine it really hard with my brain parts. Taste follows pretty closely to the smell. A metallic twang on the finish really makes it hard to swallow. A bit light on body but the carbonation helps lend a nice fluffy full feeling. It's just not there.

11-13-2011 20:56:18 | More by 7ate9
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DaGrizz

New Jersey

2.5/5  rDev -34.7%

10-10-2012 00:32:29 | More by DaGrizz
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xnicknj

Pennsylvania

2.65/5  rDev -30.8%

22oz bottle poured into taster - thanks rob

Pours a clearish, lightly hazed copper, burnt orange color with a thin layering of white head on top. Fades out into a slick of film with some spotty lacing on the glass.

Heavy pumpkin spice with cinnamon and clove, touches of vanilla and chocolate. Pumpkiny with acrid booze and burnt sugar.

Sharp, intense pumpkin-driven spice up front with an off-putting amount of cinnamon and nutmeg which seems to dry out the tongue. Chocolate malts mixed with cloyingly sweet vanilla and an avalanche of candy corn pumpkin. Finishes boozy and sweet.

Lighter medium body, decent carbonation, thin, watery and sticky on the tongue. I'm notorious in my group for hating on pumpkin beers, and stuff like this is exactly why. Simply too much in nearly every category - too sweet, too boozy, too spicy, too thin. I enjoy some of Epic's beers but this is a pretty large miss for me.

12-26-2012 14:02:11 | More by xnicknj
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Myst

District of Columbia

2.75/5  rDev -28.2%

09-30-2013 06:49:25 | More by Myst
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baconman91

Ohio

2.75/5  rDev -28.2%

10-10-2013 20:13:40 | More by baconman91
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SColl

District of Columbia

2.8/5  rDev -26.9%

Date Dec. 3, 2012
Type/ Style Pumpkin Ale
Package 22oz Bottle
Location Home
ABV 7.7%

Aroma: Strong Pumpkin, Sugary Sweetness

Appearance: Dark Black, Good Head Retention

Body/Texture: Smooth, Creamy, Medium Body, Didn't Quite Fill Mouth

Aftertaste: Pumpkin, Alcohol, Ginger, Cinnamon, Bitter

Overall: 3.0/5 Flavors weren't in balance, too much spice and bitter aftertaste turned me off.

12-21-2012 17:17:14 | More by SColl
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MBrausen

Minnesota

2.95/5  rDev -23%

Reviewed from notes.

A. Pours a dark brown orange, 1 finger thick head, great lacing and rests at a 1mm head

S. Mild to no smell, pumpkin and a hint of light chocolate.

T. Tastes of sweet pumpkin,lots of orange and a hint of spices, but not too much.

M. Medium body, high carbonation, mildly chewy and coarse.

O. A pretty decent beer, but could use a more over the top pumpkin flavor. It was very blended and more simple than what you normally get from Epic.

02-01-2012 21:34:46 | More by MBrausen
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TIsherwood

Maine

2.95/5  rDev -23%

Release #1 printed on bottle.

Picked up a bomber at Bier:Thirty Bistro in Boise on November 19th and cracked it open this evening.

Not sure how I felt about this one...

Poured a beautiful black into a simple glass mug. Lacing clung to the sides all the way down.

Smell was slightly off...no pumpkin on the nose whatsoever...

Taste: This is easily the most drinkable porter I've ever had, nevermind that it was an imperial porter. With that being said, I was sort of disappointed in the fact that it was gone in half an hour. Are you supposed to be able to down porters? I think not. If you are expecting a pumpkin taste on this prepare to be disappointed. Picked up some slight spice...but pumpkin? Where's the 200+ lbs. of pumpkin supposedly brewed into this batch?!


Mouthfeel was very smooth...not much carbonation at all...pretty deceptive for a 7.3%, no bite from the alcohol at all.

Overall...not a horrible beer but it wasn't what I was hoping. I bought it simply because it was a PUMPKIN porter...and it has no pumpkin taste to it at all. So if this was simply a porter it would be great, the label says otherwise. I know Epic makes some good brews and this probably just needs to be tweaked some more to perfection. I can't knock it, but can't say I'd recommend this batch.

11-27-2011 03:53:39 | More by TIsherwood
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GRG1313

California

3/5  rDev -21.7%

08-27-2013 04:08:43 | More by GRG1313
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NonicPanic

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -21.7%

12-05-2013 15:17:42 | More by NonicPanic
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sparx1100

Minnesota

3/5  rDev -21.7%

09-22-2013 06:26:01 | More by sparx1100
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brez8791

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -21.7%

11-13-2013 19:17:15 | More by brez8791
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bwarren82

Illinois

3/5  rDev -21.7%

11-15-2013 00:08:41 | More by bwarren82
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CTJman

Connecticut

3/5  rDev -21.7%

11-24-2013 20:15:49 | More by CTJman
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NYR_Rob

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -21.7%

10-26-2013 02:59:06 | More by NYR_Rob
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JoelClark

Idaho

3/5  rDev -21.7%

08-03-2014 17:52:54 | More by JoelClark
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Hojaminbag

Colorado

3.03/5  rDev -20.9%

Fermentation Without Representation has a mahogany colored body with a thin tan head that disappears almost immediately.

There are a lot of spices in the nose, with some sweet malt hiding underneath.

Spices come through up front, with what I think is a blend of cinnamon, nutmeg and allspice. A light touch of bitterness with some citrus from the hops is next. The malt has caramel and toasted flavors with a little bit of powdery chocolate flavor. Pretty short finish.

The body is a little bit light, with the carbonation being a little bit higher than I would expect.

This beer isn't bad, but it is fairly uninspiring and lacking any depth of flavor. As my buddy said, “if you're going to call a beer an imperial pumpkin porter, it better have pumpkin. Or at least taste like an imperial porter.”

12-28-2011 18:08:37 | More by Hojaminbag
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bcostner1

Tennessee

3.03/5  rDev -20.9%

Bottle Release #5

A: Pretty typical porter. Dark brown with some dark ruby red highlights. Nice khaki head that lingers for a while.

S: Underwhelming. Heavy on the clove. Some faint chocolate in there. Really no other spices detectable other than the clove.

T: Again, very heavy on the clove in the taste...too heavy. Minimal cinnamon present. Some definite chocolate and fleshy pumpkin present. Personally, I was hoping for a more well balanced/well represented array of spices (some cinnamon, nutmeg and allspice for example). Way too clove heavy for me. Sweetness/bitterness balance isn't bad overall though. Chocolate becomes more pronounced as it warms up a bit but still not nearly enough.

M: Pretty easy drinker. Not boozy at all. Decent body; not thin. Satisfying.

Overall, I would say that this is a very average (at best) pumpkin porter. I am not a huge fan of "clove forward" pumpkin ales and this one is definitely clove dominated. Wish there were a better representation of other spices and a heavier chocolate element personally. I actually ended up drinking about 2/3 of the bomber and pouring the rest of it out. Something about it just got very off-putting to me after a while. Too bad...I was looking forward to this one.

10-22-2012 00:05:54 | More by bcostner1
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justintcoons

Pennsylvania

3.08/5  rDev -19.6%

Release #7, 7.7%
Poured into a pilsner glass. Why? because it was clean.

Appearance
Extremely dark brown with some red highlights. 1 finger of tan head that dissipates quickly. Looks pretty yeasty but it's hard to tell with the color. Weak lacing.

Nose
Roasted barley, pumpkin meat, chocolate and cinnamon.

Taste
Sweet pumpkin meatiness as well as a good dose of roasted barley. Coffee grounds and chocolate milk. A touch of cinnamon spice, nutmeg and earthy char on the end.

Mouthfeel
Medium-full bodied, smooth and creamy.

Overall
A decent beer in its own right, but Pumpkin Ales with Porter/Stout bases have never really done it for me. Pretty easy drinking at 7.7%. The alcohol is well hidden.

12-01-2012 23:25:39 | More by justintcoons
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Beerlover

Minnesota

3.1/5  rDev -19.1%

taste like all the other pumpkin ales I've had...at least the ones I didn't drain pour....
has the same aroma and taste as your typical pumpkin beer, nothing different or special. I'm starting to think these for the most part all taste the same with the exception of the really gross ones which I pour.

a: perfect, dark brown, cant see threw unless held to the light. has an excellent light khaki brown foamy head
s: burnt malts or barley and some typical nutmeggy/cinnamoness.not getting the vanilla or marshmellowness...? smells the same as a half dozen others I've had except a little more burnt.
taste: meh. same boring pumpkin ale.
o.a. nothing special.

08-10-2013 02:07:50 | More by Beerlover
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frenchblood21

Ohio

3.13/5  rDev -18.3%

Appearance- As brown as a beer can get without being black. Great lacing throughout.

Smell- This is the weak link in the beer. coffee and butterscotch, which is to be expected from a porter. None of the pumpkin or spice comes out.

Taste- The smallest amount of fall spices, but if you didn't know it was a pumpkin porter, you would never tell. Mostly stout-like tastes.

Mouthfeel- Great mouthfeel! A thick and creamy beer that stays on the tongue for about 15 seconds.

Overall- A great tasting beer, but a big let down for being an imperial pumpkin porter. Its worth trying, but don't rush for this one.

12-10-2011 01:23:35 | More by frenchblood21
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Gavage

New Jersey

3.13/5  rDev -18.3%

Appearance: pours a dark brown color with a 3" head that slowly falls to a thick surface foam. Thick lace paints the glass.

Smell: roasted malts and vanilla really come through to the nose.

Taste: roasted malts, vanilla, molasses, and a hint of chocolate arrives late. Bitterness is mild at best, and there is a hint of allspice. A bit sweet overall.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Lightly crisp throughout. Long lasting aftertaste as the flavors stick to the tongue.

Overall: a bit dissappointed with this as the vanilla beans really show through here without the woody tones a bourbon barrel beer may have. I really didn't taste any pumkin here as to me this was more of a vanilla porter.

03-03-2012 18:45:41 | More by Gavage
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fo5s

District of Columbia

3.13/5  rDev -18.3%

22oz bottle served into portsmouth tulip. Split with Chris during the Patriots / Chiefs game. Release #1 clearly printed on the bottle - per the website brewed 10/2/11, bottled 10/17/11.

A- pours a very deep brown, with a small, light brown head. Minimal lacing.

S- smells of dry pumpkin over a hefty porter base. Hint of chocolate.

T- malt forward with a solid backbone of smooth pumpkin. Finish is bakers chocolate. I'm struggling to pick up the 5 spices supposedly in the recipe. Lacks the roasty malts I'd look for in a porter.

M- body is very thin for an imperial porter...seems closer to a big scotch.

O- overall a decent brew, but didn't meet my expectation for an imperial pumpkin porter. I was hoping for more body and more spices.

11-22-2011 02:32:19 | More by fo5s
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Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 345 ratings.