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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
86
very good

428 Ratings
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Ratings: 428
Reviews: 132
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 11.2%
Wants: 21
Gots: 46 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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2/5  rDev -47.9%

dunix, Mar 19, 2014
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2.25/5  rDev -41.4%

cofeeguru, Oct 10, 2012
Photo of 7ate9
2.33/5  rDev -39.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours nice and black with an attractive small-bead foam tan head. The sniff is not attractive, what little of it there is. Even after warming there is barely a thing to snuff on. Mild roast, slight veggie pumkin-squashiness, but most prominent is a metallic taste. I can only smell spices if I try to imagine it really hard with my brain parts. Taste follows pretty closely to the smell. A metallic twang on the finish really makes it hard to swallow. A bit light on body but the carbonation helps lend a nice fluffy full feeling. It's just not there.

7ate9, Nov 13, 2011
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2.5/5  rDev -34.9%

DaGrizz, Oct 10, 2012
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2.5/5  rDev -34.9%

Raziel313, Sep 20, 2014
Photo of xnicknj
2.65/5  rDev -31%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

22oz bottle poured into taster - thanks rob

Pours a clearish, lightly hazed copper, burnt orange color with a thin layering of white head on top. Fades out into a slick of film with some spotty lacing on the glass.

Heavy pumpkin spice with cinnamon and clove, touches of vanilla and chocolate. Pumpkiny with acrid booze and burnt sugar.

Sharp, intense pumpkin-driven spice up front with an off-putting amount of cinnamon and nutmeg which seems to dry out the tongue. Chocolate malts mixed with cloyingly sweet vanilla and an avalanche of candy corn pumpkin. Finishes boozy and sweet.

Lighter medium body, decent carbonation, thin, watery and sticky on the tongue. I'm notorious in my group for hating on pumpkin beers, and stuff like this is exactly why. Simply too much in nearly every category - too sweet, too boozy, too spicy, too thin. I enjoy some of Epic's beers but this is a pretty large miss for me.

xnicknj, Dec 26, 2012
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2.75/5  rDev -28.4%

damiandev, Sep 29, 2014
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2.75/5  rDev -28.4%

Myst, Sep 30, 2013
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2.75/5  rDev -28.4%

baconman91, Oct 10, 2013
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2.8/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Date Dec. 3, 2012
Type/ Style Pumpkin Ale
Package 22oz Bottle
Location Home
ABV 7.7%

Aroma: Strong Pumpkin, Sugary Sweetness

Appearance: Dark Black, Good Head Retention

Body/Texture: Smooth, Creamy, Medium Body, Didn't Quite Fill Mouth

Aftertaste: Pumpkin, Alcohol, Ginger, Cinnamon, Bitter

Overall: 3.0/5 Flavors weren't in balance, too much spice and bitter aftertaste turned me off.

SColl, Dec 21, 2012
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2.9/5  rDev -24.5%

Kramerbarthomer, Sep 11, 2014
Photo of MBrausen
2.95/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Reviewed from notes.

A. Pours a dark brown orange, 1 finger thick head, great lacing and rests at a 1mm head

S. Mild to no smell, pumpkin and a hint of light chocolate.

T. Tastes of sweet pumpkin,lots of orange and a hint of spices, but not too much.

M. Medium body, high carbonation, mildly chewy and coarse.

O. A pretty decent beer, but could use a more over the top pumpkin flavor. It was very blended and more simple than what you normally get from Epic.

MBrausen, Feb 01, 2012
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2.95/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2.5

Release #1 printed on bottle.

Picked up a bomber at Bier:Thirty Bistro in Boise on November 19th and cracked it open this evening.

Not sure how I felt about this one...

Poured a beautiful black into a simple glass mug. Lacing clung to the sides all the way down.

Smell was slightly off...no pumpkin on the nose whatsoever...

Taste: This is easily the most drinkable porter I've ever had, nevermind that it was an imperial porter. With that being said, I was sort of disappointed in the fact that it was gone in half an hour. Are you supposed to be able to down porters? I think not. If you are expecting a pumpkin taste on this prepare to be disappointed. Picked up some slight spice...but pumpkin? Where's the 200+ lbs. of pumpkin supposedly brewed into this batch?!


Mouthfeel was very smooth...not much carbonation at all...pretty deceptive for a 7.3%, no bite from the alcohol at all.

Overall...not a horrible beer but it wasn't what I was hoping. I bought it simply because it was a PUMPKIN porter...and it has no pumpkin taste to it at all. So if this was simply a porter it would be great, the label says otherwise. I know Epic makes some good brews and this probably just needs to be tweaked some more to perfection. I can't knock it, but can't say I'd recommend this batch.

TIsherwood, Nov 27, 2011
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

BubalooBrewMaster, Oct 08, 2014
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

GRG1313, Aug 27, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

NonicPanic, Dec 05, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

sparx1100, Sep 22, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

brez8791, Nov 13, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

kjkinsey, Oct 05, 2014
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

bwarren82, Nov 15, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

CTJman, Nov 24, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

NYR_Rob, Oct 26, 2013
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3/5  rDev -21.9%

JoelClark, Aug 03, 2014
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3.03/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Fermentation Without Representation has a mahogany colored body with a thin tan head that disappears almost immediately.

There are a lot of spices in the nose, with some sweet malt hiding underneath.

Spices come through up front, with what I think is a blend of cinnamon, nutmeg and allspice. A light touch of bitterness with some citrus from the hops is next. The malt has caramel and toasted flavors with a little bit of powdery chocolate flavor. Pretty short finish.

The body is a little bit light, with the carbonation being a little bit higher than I would expect.

This beer isn't bad, but it is fairly uninspiring and lacking any depth of flavor. As my buddy said, “if you're going to call a beer an imperial pumpkin porter, it better have pumpkin. Or at least taste like an imperial porter.”

Hojaminbag, Dec 28, 2011
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3.03/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottle Release #5

A: Pretty typical porter. Dark brown with some dark ruby red highlights. Nice khaki head that lingers for a while.

S: Underwhelming. Heavy on the clove. Some faint chocolate in there. Really no other spices detectable other than the clove.

T: Again, very heavy on the clove in the taste...too heavy. Minimal cinnamon present. Some definite chocolate and fleshy pumpkin present. Personally, I was hoping for a more well balanced/well represented array of spices (some cinnamon, nutmeg and allspice for example). Way too clove heavy for me. Sweetness/bitterness balance isn't bad overall though. Chocolate becomes more pronounced as it warms up a bit but still not nearly enough.

M: Pretty easy drinker. Not boozy at all. Decent body; not thin. Satisfying.

Overall, I would say that this is a very average (at best) pumpkin porter. I am not a huge fan of "clove forward" pumpkin ales and this one is definitely clove dominated. Wish there were a better representation of other spices and a heavier chocolate element personally. I actually ended up drinking about 2/3 of the bomber and pouring the rest of it out. Something about it just got very off-putting to me after a while. Too bad...I was looking forward to this one.

bcostner1, Oct 22, 2012
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Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 428 ratings.