Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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Reviews: 145
Hads: 515
Avg: 3.83
pDev: 21.67%
Wants: 20
Gots: 65 | FT: 0
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Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011

Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.
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Photo of 303beer
4.16/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours a brown red brown color with some rocky off white head. The nose is bready with pumpkin. The taste is chocolate malt with a bit of pumpkin then a roasted dryness replaces the initial smooth feeling. Fine beer. Good job to epic. So glad the brewery is a couple miles from my house.

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Photo of cjgator3
3.79/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

22oz bottle poured into a tulip. This imperial pumpkin porter pours a dark black color with light tan colored head. The aroma is roasted malts and faint pumpkin and spices. The taste like the aroma is roasted malts and spices. I enjoy that this has a nice balance of pumpkin spices and the sweetness is kept in check and not too overpowering. Overall, a solid pumpkin brew for the season.

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Photo of Brutaltruth
3.74/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Enjoyed fro the 22oz bottle in a snifter. This brew pour a deep brownish black with a decent off white head of foam that dissipates to a moderate ring and thick lacing. Nose of the usual suspects....nutmeg, cinnamon, mild pumpkin, with a moderate dose of molasses. Flavors follow the nose with a medium brown molasses and pumpkin note, followed by cinnamon and nutmeg on the rear. Decent carbonation and smooth mouth feel finishes lightly dry and tart. Decent. Not my favorite from one of my favorite breweries.


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Photo of Franziskaner
3.79/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown in color with very little light seeping through. There's a fingernail of khaki colored head. Brussels lacing. Aroma of cinnamon and nutmeg are most prevalent. There's a faint whiff of pumpkin pie spice mixed in. The flavor is a blend of nutmeg, cinnamon, dark malt, plum, fig, and pumpkin. The mouth is a bit sticky and dry.

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Photo of Stingraystripe
4.52/5  rDev +18%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

My favorite seasonal ever. Perfect mix of spice and real beer flavor. Very roasty up front giving way to warm spice. The 2012 and 2014 releases were top notch. 2013 seemed to miss a lot of the spice finish, but it cellared really well, and a year later was just delicious. (Don't really know what all went on there - I'll let someone with some science hazard a guess at that ).

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Photo of GOBLIN
4.4/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Absolutely caught off guard by this beer ! I was not expecting the flavor assault I got from this one. Pours, looks, feels and tastes more towards the stout end of the spectrum rather than on the porter side of things. Categorized as a Pumpkin ale is sure to throw some off . . . it did me. The pumpkin is there for sure, don't misunderstand. But it is done in such a way that leaves most other pumpkin beers still sitting in the patch watching this beer flourish as far as the style goes. Thick, roasty with hints of vanilla, chocolate and coffee, it is a great addition to your fall beer lineup.

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Photo of Jeffreysan
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle, at the Aces and Ales, Las Vegas, poured into a goblet

Appearance: Pours a beautiful, completely opaque, pitch-black color with a half of a finger of caramel-colored head that dissolved away into a thin lacing of foam that completely covered the top of the beer.

Aroma: Very aromatic! Tons of roasted malt up front, imparting notes of freshly toasted pumpernickel bread, followed by tons of pumpkin and pumpkin pie spices, such as cinnamon, nutmeg, clove and brown sugar.

Taste: Strong flavors of roasted malt up front, imparting notes of freshly toasted pumpernickel bread, followed by some flavors of roasted pumpkin, which imparted a touch of smoke, followed by the pumpkin pie spices of cinnamon, nutmeg, clove, ginger and brown sugar-like sweetness. Delicious!

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied with some good, but not assertive carbonation. With an ABV of 7.5%, there is no alcohol on the palate.

Overall: This is very good beer! I love the strong flavors of malt, roasted pumpkin and pumpkin pie spices. I’d certainly get it again!

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Photo of BreweryRun
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a bottle into a tulip. This is the most pumpkin forward pumpkin beer I've had. Spices are there but very subtle. Very low carb. This is release #21 so some of the spices may have fallen out, also the bottle looked underfilled to my eye. Overall a very pumpkin foward beer with not a whole lots else going on. I enjoyed trying it but probably won't grab another unless it's super fresh for comparison.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Pours a dark and toasty blackish brown color with an off white head. The aroma is very roasted with some pumpkin and spice notes also coming forth. Upfront in the flavor there is plenty of roasted character followed up by the pumpkin pie taste and mocha even. Just a bit of spices mainly just pumpkin and roasted malt here but they definitely work well together. Full bodied well carbonated ale. The Pumpkin Stout is becoming a big trend in seasonal beer here in the states. With these flavor combinations, it can easily be understood why.

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Photo of rlee1390
4/5  rDev +4.4%

A-Black in the glass with a one finger off white head and nice carbonation.

S-Chocolate, roasted malt, pumpkin, some cinnamon a tad bit of coffee.

T-More porter than pumpkin. Chocolate and roasted mat. Earthy spices and pumpkin flavor.

M-Lighter, tad watery but nice carbonation.

O-A good pumpkin beer, wish it leaned more pumpkin than porter.

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Photo of Omnium
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Bomber > 2x IPA Glass
Batch # 15 / 8.4% ABV

A - Dark rich brown black coffee color with two fingers of a nice light tan head, medium lacing.
S - Some really awesome dark chocolate roasts, fresh coffee, vanilla, pie crust, pumkin, cinnamon, nutmeg, rich toffee, toasted nuts.
T - Pumpkin doesnt really come through as much as you'd want, and thats the only reason I'm not giving it higher than a 4. Up front is the dark chocolate roasted malt, coffee, and vanilla, then you get some mild roasted pumkin flavor, vanilla, then the cinnamon and nutmeg kick in and ride till the end.
M - Up front its rich and very mild feeling, but then it fades rather fast, you definitely dont feel the alcohol though.
O - Really great complex brew, lots of different traits on this one that make it worth getting. Glad to have gotten it.

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Photo of rand
3.08/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

From 22oz bottle to pint glass

The bottle notes this was Epic's first collaborative brew, with DC Brau, which typically means they're 'special'. These pumpkin porters seem to be more popular than pumpkin beers themselves - perhaps because they're less labor-intensive - but they're not as exciting. Most of them, including this one, is basically an average porter with a hint of pumpkin spice.

The nose is roasty and oaky, but subdued - barely a hint of the pumpkin aspect here. A little more layered on the palate, with coffee and oak, and a touch of clove and nutmeg. Mouthfeel is a little thin as well, which doesn't help the relatively flat flavor profile.

Drinkable but uninspired, disappointing for a collab.

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Photo of kemoarps
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Body comes across a bit murky and more a darker shade of the creamy brown of the root beer in a rootbeer float after the ice cream is gone. But, like, almost no ice cream was there in the first place. Ruddy in the light around the edges. A good finger worth of creamy brown head -- still there as I fumble over words and check my voicemail, there's still about half a finger left. Great lacing as well.

I get almost no pumpkin whatsoever on the nose. This isn't the end of the world: pumpkin beers are alright by me, but I'm not a huge fan or anything, it just would seem that a pumpkin beer would have more, you know, pumpking to it. I get mostly kind of an ashy creamy unpronounced sweet. As I let it warm, the sweet coalesces into something akin to good chocolate with some generalized earthy notes that must be the great gourd itself. It continues to gently slope in this direction as the molecules start to move and stretch a little more.

The tongue offers significantly more going on than the aroma suggested. Whether this is good or not depends on what flavours you like. I happen to enjoy a cool creamy chocolate juxtaposed with bitter coffee, with just enough nutmeg and cinnamon to draw out the mild pumpkin underneath it all. Char and almost a milkstout like creamy sweetness prevail: a combination I really really like. Creamy and smoothe going down.
OH! I found the pumpkin! It was faint faint faint at the best, until I burped (eh, get over it). That was almost completely pumpkin meat, oddly enough, and after that I got more of the pumpkin in the finish and aftertaste each sip.

Ignoring the pumpkin aspect of this, I really like the milky charry chocolatey coffee and nutmeg that this offers. The pumpkin isn't pronounced enough for me to really think of this as pumpkin beer, or to distract from the above mentioned flavours that just so happen to be right up my alley.

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Photo of JohnIrving
2.71/5  rDev -29.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Release 19. Poured from the bomber in to a stout/porter glass and allowed to warm considerably. Aroma of pumpkin with lesser notes of chocolate and roasty malts. Taste is the same, with some warming alcohol from the 8%+ abv. Medum-heavy mouthfeel that sticks around. By the end of the bomber, I was wishing I could try the base porter without the pumpkin spices.

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Photo of 1sophrosyne1
3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Poured into my DC Brau can glass from a 22 ounce bottle sent by MNishCT77.

Pours thick syrup brown with a hint of rouge and a thin with a thin light-tan head that leaves foamy-cream sheets of lacing, despite falling rather fast. Maintained well by carbonation that's not visible through the mire.

The nose fits well with the stock description above...raw vegetal notes of squash sprayed with a fine resin jump up early. Vanilla dusted onto charred malt comes next. Cinnamon and nutmeg then usher in the chocolate, whose milky and grassy lightness are reflected in the taste profile. It's a complex bouquet that, for me, is the best part of the experience. With warmth, the milk chocolate and nutmeg notes strengthen in a pleasing way.

I had hoped for a spicier start to sips that would open up the pumpkin flavor early, but the namesake vegetable really only plays a role in the warm aftertaste. For me, it's more butternut squash-like early and through the mid taste. The back third is bitter, but not tied to the chocolate, so I get a milkier smoothness and fresh herbs from hops that create the most interesting part of the flavor profile. They don't last long, though. It ends sharply upturned and a bitter, smoked cucurbits lingers.

In the mouth it's almost clean when cold, and develops some chew with more gulps and warming. There's a thin veil of anesthetic buzz from essential oils that stick to the lips. Overall, it's got medium heft with a good match of carbonation, but there's nothing thrilling about how it feels...and it starts to become a drying epoxy about halfway through a glass.

This is a good beer to pair with fruit, like apples or pears...or even a peach would be good, I'd venture--if you can get one during the season of its release. I'll admit that I have rarely been thrilled with pumpkin beers, so my lukewarm perspective may be slanted. But, it's a creative brew, not cloying or out of balance, so I'll take it as an autumn accompaniment to football season.

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Photo of Treyliff
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Release #9, poured into a snifter

A- pours an opaque dark brown color with a two-finger creamy and foamy light-tan head that retains nicely after the pour leaving some short-lasting lace behind

S- raw vegetal aromas of pumpkin/squash up front mix with robust porter notes with highlights of chocolate, charred/smoky malt, herbal/earthy hops. Cinnamon is most prominent of the pumpkin spice aromas with traces of nutmeg & allspice as well. Cinnamon & chocolaty porter aromas mix nicely

T- the base porter is nice and robust with notes of dark chocolate mixing with some smoky roasted malt, also a hint of coffee & some nutty notes. The raw vegetal flavor is more prominent than most pumpkin beers, with flavors of both raw pumpkin & squash. Cinnamon seems to stick out most, out of the spicing, with hints of nutmeg & allspice icing in as well. The finish is slightly sweet with more spicing and a vanilla cream linger

M- medium chewy body with moderate carbonation leads to a creamy mouthfeel and a silky smooth finish

O- a different take on a pumpkin ale that worked nicely with the robust porter. I'd like to see more pumpkin porters/stouts

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Photo of DenverHopHead
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a pub glass.
Appearance - surprisingly dark; in fact this is black with just a touch of blood orange at the bottom of the glass. A thin, mocha head leaves a sticky curtain of lace down the glass!
Smell - sweet malts, molasses and spice; very little pumpkin.
Taste - initial sip is sweet with a flavorful rush of butter, cream and spice! I detect far more cherry than pumpkin.
Feel - sweet, creamy and flavorful! Medium body that has excellent drinkability for the 8.4% ABV!
Overall - an unexpected surprise; this may be one I seek out each Fall!

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Photo of the_awesometeer
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%

Appearance - Pitch black. Thick foamy head which laces the glass.
Smell - smell of pumpkin spice comes strong, then the smells of coffee and a typical porter come in second.
Taste - porter with a hint of pumpkin, but a nice spice after taste. Taste very good
Mouthfeel- Smoothy, very creamy. I did get a flem in my throat after not sure if the beer caused it with the spices.
Overall - Great beer, very much a porter with a hint of pumpkin and spice. Not an overwhelming pumpkin flavor

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Photo of dorianmarley
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Straightforward in body and flavor, with cola adding drinkability. Striking bitterness. Not dry for a porter. Pumpkin flavor is simple and smart. I appreciate the restraint on spice. Overall, a good beer, and a fun play on a porter, but the flavors are too restrained to be especially memorable.

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Photo of Benish
4.25/5  rDev +11%

Batch # 18. Poured into snifter glass.

Appearance: nice creamy tan head presented which dissipated very slowly. Color was like any typical porter - brownish black.

Smell: Instantly picked up some pumpkin pie spices. Can also smell subtle pie crust and brown sugar and coffee. Smell is outstanding. Can't get enough of it.

Taste: not overly spiced like most pumpkin ales. Very mild pumpkin flavor. The flavor of the porter dominates with the pumpkin notes on the side. The porter itself is outstanding with its malty mellow sweetness. Also notes of coffee at the finish.

Mouthfeel: smooth and creamy

Overall: outstanding. It's not an overkill like other pumpkin beers are. It is well executed in a porter. The smell was truly outstanding.

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Photo of Zorro
4/5  rDev +4.4%

Dark brown nearly black colored beer with a medium sized light brown colored head.

Smells mild with a strong caramel scent. Spice is mild with s stronger chocolate scent.

Starts sweet with a lots of chocolate and a mild bitterness. Very mild pumpkin pie spices other than that this is basically a Porter. Spice gets stronger as it warms.

Overall this is a pumpkin spice porter.

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Photo of clayrock81
3.88/5  rDev +1.3%

Poured a almost black body with minimal head and no lace.
Aroma is dominated by pumpkin and spices like cinnamon and nutmeg, and just hints of sweet and roasted malts.
I like pumpkin beers so I enjoyed this beer but calling it a pumpkin porter is a stretch in my opinion.
Medium-bodied and pretty much dominated by pumpkin and pumpkin spice flavors, the roasted and chocolate malts in this beer at barely noticeable at their best.
Not really a complaint or criticism, I just feel that this a pumpkin beer with subtle porter qualities rather than a porter with pumpkin added to it.
Finishes easy and I enjoyed this beer.

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Photo of challenja
4.5/5  rDev +17.5%

22oz bottle served into a Boulevard tulip glass

A: Black cafe body with no light permeability, mellow off orange white 2 finger head.

S: Pumpkin pie, cinnamon, allspice, vanilla bean.

T: Dominican medium roast coffee, alcohol estringent, vanilla bean, pumpkin gourd, allspice, hop bitters and nutmeg.

M: Medium to full body, smooth velvet, with no burnt characteristics.

O: This is a very well made porter/ pumpkin ale hybrid. Not as smoky as a great porters go, not as overpowering and robust as most great pumpkin ales go, but a damn solid hybrid beer made by two great beer companies that I will introduce friends to.

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Photo of darthvohn
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Glass Used: snifter

Appearance: Poured dark brown, which looks opaque at first but once you hold it up to the light you see hues of deep garnet around the edges and bottom of the glass. The head foamed to a quarter inch and subsides slowly, leaving patches of residue floating on top.

Smell: Roasty, Chocolatety with vanilla & caramel notes followed by the stronger pumpkin pie spices. A wiff of booze lingers at the end.

Taste: Roast & Chocolate rolls first, then comes the vanilla, allspice, nutmeg and hints of cinnamon. The gourd flavors and creaminess are present before the low bitter hop finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-light, on the thinner side with decent carbonation. Somewhat dry finish.

Overall: I really enjoyed this as for me it was a porter first, with support from the pumpkin and pie flavors. If you're looking for a pumpkin beer that isn't overly sweet, or heavy this is for you.

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Photo of Rhettbuck
4/5  rDev +4.4%

Got this at my local liquor store in the Fall of 2013, drank it recently in the late Summer of 2014. So keep in mind that my bottle was aged.

Appearance: Dark like a stout, but the head is foamy and takes a couple of minutes to dissipate. Good lacing around the glass

Taste:Sweet, not overwhelming pumpkin flavor. A lingering carmel note after finish.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, and clean.

Smell: Vanilla and carmel notes, really a great smelling beer.

I would absolutely buy this again. IN FACT I WILL

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Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
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