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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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very good

338 Ratings
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Ratings: 338
Reviews: 120
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 11.23%
Wants: 18
Gots: 24 | FT: 1
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Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Brown coloured body with little head. Just spice, perhaps a touch of pumpkin in the finish. Roasted coffee taste. Decent drinkability. Spiced out, pumpkined out. SOme chocolate malt, even more would be interesting but too odd for the style.
And the spices could have been betterMediumm mouthfeel. Liam's bottle.

Serving type: bottle

12-17-2012 02:54:23 | More by Sammy
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UCLABrewN84

California

3.98/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour at the bottle share hosted by Adam Fine Wine & Liquor held at Sophie’s Place in Redondo Beach, CA.

Release # 5.

Pours a clear dark brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, lots of pumpkin pie spices, and some cocoa aromas. Taste is much the same with a nice spice finish. There is a mild amount of roasty and spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some solid aromas and flavors that make it tasty and easy to drink.

Serving type: bottle

07-31-2012 03:33:46 | More by UCLABrewN84
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Thorpe429

Illinois

3.55/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle picked up from Rick's in Alexandria. Served in a Three Floyds / Intelligentsia mini-snifter.

Pours a nearly-black deep brown color with a thin light tan head and not much in the way of lacing. Thin tan collar as it goes down. The nose carries some light pumpkin spice and plenty of porter character. Fairly roasty with a bit of chocolate. Faint spice. Flavor has chocolate and a fair amount of roast. Medium body with light carbonation and a nice full mouthfeel. Not over the top in any direction. Well done.

Serving type: bottle

11-17-2011 02:17:36 | More by Thorpe429
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metter98

New York

3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear but very dark amber (near black) in color. It poured with a finger high tan head that died down, leaving lacing on the surface and a thin collar around the edge of the glass.
S: There are aromas of pumpkins in the nose.
T: The taste is much more complex than the smell, having flavors of chocolate and roasted malts along with pumpkins and notes of vanilla beans. This transitions to spicy flavors that linger through the finish—among these ginger stands out in particular.
M: It feels a bit shy of medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This is an interesting beer to have during the autumn. It's relatively easy to drink, except that I wasn't really a big fan of the ginger and think all of the flavors blended really well together except for it.

Note: Release #7

Serving type: bottle

10-21-2012 12:03:33 | More by metter98
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nmann08

District of Columbia

3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

01-20-2014 16:28:34 | More by nmann08
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

3.48/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Clashing of the heads between DC Brau and Epic brewing companies results in a bold-bodied Porter with threads of pumpkin pie, chocolate and spice running through.

Fermentation Without Representation pours with a hazy bronzen-brown hue that glows lightly at its edges with a tawny gold glow. As a fast rise of ivory foam builds, its staying power is limited as the froth folds back into the beer midway through the session, trickling with sparse lace intermittently.

Its porter-esque aromas are toasty, nutty and delicately of chocolate. Notions of coffee waft about as the spiciness take the stage- cinnamon, nutmeg and clove weave together with an allspice-type medley. Its light pumpkin and brownie aroma is well intact, except for the lacking pumpkin scent.

As the toast, coffee and chocolate character introduces to the palate, supportive caramel and toffee is semi-sweet earl but trails dry and toasty. Meanwhile, its middle is spicy with pie spices, coffee ground, pepper and toasted pecan. Glimpses of gourd give a creamy pie flavor, but also with squash and melon.

Semi-dry in mouthfeel, the imperial beer trends toasty, spicy, dry and lightened- somewhat off of the more decadent pie filling texture that's not only expected but is what's preferred. Somewhat acrid and astringent with the spices, the finish is warm and cola-like.

The beer purists that want ales to lead with more Porter character will enjoy the subtlties of the pumpkin influence found here. But the true pie flavors won't command the taste in the way that most modern pumpkin ales do.

Serving type: bottle

03-31-2014 17:19:46 | More by BEERchitect
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oberon

North Carolina

4.13/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

8%ABV. per bottle label.Poured a deep roasted chesnut brown with a thinner light tan colored had atop.Aromas were on the lighter side with some vanilla and mild roast mainly.The flavor of this beer makes it with its complexity and how good it is,lightly roasted with some pie spice but the pumpkin flavor really stands out,a lingering vanilla flavor over top of roast in the finish.I think this beer is vastly underrated,it's complex and flavorful.I think Epic makes some top notch beer,this is top notch for the fall season.Got get some.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2012 22:39:21 | More by oberon
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GRG1313

California

3/5  rDev -21.7%

08-27-2013 04:08:43 | More by GRG1313
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TMoney2591

Illinois

3.9/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a tumbler.

Thanks to my man Ryan for sharing this bottle!

Bitch, bitch, bitch, DC... Anyway, this stuff pours a clear tawny-orange topped by finger of khaki foam. The nose comprises mild roasted malts, light vanilla bean, light coffee, brown sugar, watered-down molasses, and a touch of dark greens. The taste brings in more of the same, with the spices coalescing into the roast, creating a full, rounded, thoroughly "dark" flavor combination. In the background lurks a bit of what seems like pumpkin seeds (never tell me there could be pumpkin involved...). The body is a limber medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a sorta/kinda drying finish. Overall, a very nice pumpkin porter, one that finds a way to not only not overdo it on the spices, but to have them actually augment the otherwise mild roastiness. Good times.

Serving type: bottle

11-22-2012 03:39:03 | More by TMoney2591
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WVbeergeek

West Virginia

4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A nice big glass of Pumpkin Porter, not really the season but damn it's interesting and a collaboration with DC Brau and Epic no less. Pours pitch black maybe light ruby highlights as it pours, dark tan head foaming thick. Aroma bright spice, big fleshy pumpkin gourds, with dark caramelized sugars coating the malts and vegetable additions. Beautiful beer I'm really enjoying the blend of flavors as it warms, fruity/gourd flesh...sugar coated dark roasts mix into a unique and wonderful beer along with light pumpkin spice enjoying every sip. Mouthfeel is a bit thin with even carbonation strong spices left behind between sips. Wonderful roasted malt pumpkin spice blended nicely with a moderate alcohol level, so interesting...I've never had anything else like this quite nice, something I will seek out again in the future.

Serving type: bottle

05-27-2012 05:23:50 | More by WVbeergeek
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Kegatron

Pennsylvania

3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle into a couple of tulip glasses.

Pours black with a ½ finger of light mocha head. This maintains some rich edges, with robust lacing that clings to the sides of the glass in sticky swathes. The aroma smells of green pumpkin, vanilla, spices, a bit of brown sugar, and some roasted coffee notes along the back. This is pleasant in the nose, with a nice mix of different characters at work here.

The taste is cocoa, roast, and ripe pumpkin flavor, with sweeter notes of vanilla and dark sugars working their way in as well. Earthy hops give this a green and raw feel at times and while not overly aggressive, it does linger a bit on the tongue along with a dry finish of spices and burnt malt. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a lively and sharp feel up front that then gets a bit smoother along the back. There is some alcohol present but it mostly adds fullness and intensity to the flavors without interfering with them in any way. This one is definitely more of a sipper.

This was solid, being an Imperial Porter with a nice range of flavors and enough of an ABV to help take the chill off a bit. This was a tasty sipper.

Serving type: bottle

03-06-2012 15:28:26 | More by Kegatron
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drabmuh

Maryland

3.75/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I liked the DC Brau version slightly better. Served in a DC Brau pint glass because I don't have an Epic beer glass, get off my back.

Beer is dark brown and clear with a tan head with low retention, no lacing, low carbonation.

Aroma is sweet and spicy with only a hint of pumpkin.

Beer is not as pumpkiny as one might like, medium bodied, interesting but boring at the same time, mostly allspice coming through, it was fine but the Brau version was better.

Serving type: bottle

11-18-2011 04:33:25 | More by drabmuh
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SocalKicks

California

4/5  rDev +4.4%

09-08-2013 14:36:59 | More by SocalKicks
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StonedTrippin

Colorado

4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

im a huge fan of pumpkin beers, so even out of season i was stoked to try this one. not sure ive had a pumpkin porter that wasnt made by a homebrewer before. pours a glowing ruby brown color quite dark but as much brown ale as porter in appearance. small tan head. smells quite sweet, chocolate, vanilla, candied yams. like thanksgiving dessert. flavor is complex as anything, fresh pumpkin takes over in the beginning and wanes to a chocolate coffee dark roasty malty finish. i really enjoy the flavor trip of this one, constantly changing. mouthfeel was nice, could use a bit more carbonation in my opinion to carry it forward, but its medium body make it plenty drinkable. maybe a little too sweet for me, but it works here. overall a fabulous pumpkin beer, i think the squashy flavors work very well in a dark fuller bodied brew. i hope to get my hands on more come autumn.

Serving type: bottle

04-19-2012 17:24:59 | More by StonedTrippin
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oline73

Maryland

3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

12-21-2013 16:25:10 | More by oline73
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mdfb79

New York

3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up a bomber of this art the Whole Foods in Clarendon, VA a few days ago. Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into my DFH glass.

a - Pours a dark brown, almost black color, with
one finger of light tan head and moderate carbonation evident. Looks pretty good.

s - Smells of roasted malts, light spices, chocolate, and light pumpkin, though not much. Ton of roasted porter notes here.

t - Tastes of roasted malts, chocolate, light spices, light pumpkin, and light cinnamon. Again, roasted malts and chocolate dominate here.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. Pretty smooth and easy to drink.

o - Overall a pretty good beer. Basically a good porter with very light hints of spice and pumpkin. Not a lot of pumpkin so it that is what you're looking for, just go with a normal pumpkin ale, but if you like porters, worth checking out.

Serving type: bottle

11-19-2011 01:01:14 | More by mdfb79
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mactrail

Washington

3.85/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Dark chestnut color in the chalice. Decent foam and lively on the tongue.

The spice is pleasant rather than flamboyant. Cloves and a little cinnamon. Starts out sweet with warm malt flavors but changes to a dry finish. A substantial burnt sugar and bark taste. The squash shows up as a yammy quality. Ends on a bitter note, so it does have some hoppy underpinnings. Quite drinkable. Also it's a nice strength-- stronger than average but not a ten percenter. This would be one to watch for during the holidays.

From the 22 oz bottle bought at Bine and Vine in San Diego. This is Batch #8 and 7.7% ABV.

Serving type: bottle

04-06-2013 05:35:30 | More by mactrail
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Gueuzedude

Arizona

3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch #1; Sampled November 2011
A solid pour into my Lost Abbey Teku glass produces a three-finger thick, light tan colored head that leaves some light lacing on the sides of the glass as it slowly subsides. The beer is a concentrated brown color with suggestions of black to it; when held up to the light it shows a brilliantly clear, deep, concentrated ruby and plum color. The nose smells of brown toasted bread and an initial tartness that seems sort of pumpkin like; this last is surprising as I wasn’t expecting to notice any actual pumpkin in this beer. My second sniff has me noticing sweet spice notes of cinnamon and cardamom, some sweet clove and maybe some of the tartness is actually accentuated by a light ginger note. Ah, the sweetness is really accentuated by a smooth vanilla note that I am mistaking for an actual sweetness.

The beer is lightly sweet, even somewhat light bodied on the palate. It finishes with a roasted bitterness that is a bit like cold black coffee as well as a lingering spiciness and hint of tartness that also lingers on for quite some time in the finish. The spiciness contributes notes of nutmeg, cardamom, perhaps a touch of allspice, clove and a definite vanilla note. The body has a light prickliness to it from the carbonation and it does have a viscous texture to it up front, it finishes light though as the combination of roast, bitterness and spiciness lightens up the effect of this beer pretty quickly. The beer is certainly a bit colder than I would perhaps prefer right now, but that is easily remedied. This has a prominent astringency / bitterness to it, though I am not sure what all contributes to this; certainly roast malt and perhaps some hop bitterness does, but there seems to be more to it somehow. As the beer warms up the spices open up a bit more with the cardamom, a touch of ginger, some smooth clove notes and perhaps some of the sharpness comes from some peppercorn notes in the finish.

Interestingly enough, this beer does actually have some real pumpkin noticeable in both the aroma and flavor; it is light, but certainly adds some tartness and a bit of a squash / vegetal note to this beer. The spice character here is actually somewhat restrained compared to most pumpkin beers and it actually works pretty well. I am surprised that I am not getting an anise aroma or flavor from this beer though as that seems to be one of the more noticeable notes in beers that have had Five-Spice added to them; though perhaps this blend of Five-Spice is different. An interesting go at a Pumpkin Porter; it could really use a touch more body and rounded malt flavor to balance out the spiciness and the roast bitterness that can be a touch distracting in this beer.

Serving type: bottle

02-18-2012 02:07:05 | More by Gueuzedude
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XmnwildX12

Minnesota

3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

11-25-2013 01:08:18 | More by XmnwildX12
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Halcyondays

California

4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle, it's nice to see another pumpkin beer in the Southland besides Sam Adams and Punkin', as much as I like those beers, we need some variety,

A: Pours black with a medium tan head, good lace, thick, nice look.

S: Pumpkin flesh, dark chocolate, fragrant, nice.

T: Real heavy porter flavour upfront, charcoal, dark chocolate, vanilla beans. The pumpkin really comes out in the finish. Great pumpkin flesh flavour, with a hint of dark anise style spice.

M: Medium-bodied, creamy, rich, nice deep finish.

O: The close to $9 price tag for the bomber is not making me happy, but if this is going to be a regular offering in Southern CA in the pumpkin beer style, I'll certainly buy it because it is a good beer in the end, and frankly it doesn't get much better than this in the pumpkin beers offered in the Southland. We don't get Pumking of course. Epic continues to make good stuff.

Serving type: bottle

09-11-2012 04:58:53 | More by Halcyondays
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Gavage

New Jersey

3.13/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: pours a dark brown color with a 3" head that slowly falls to a thick surface foam. Thick lace paints the glass.

Smell: roasted malts and vanilla really come through to the nose.

Taste: roasted malts, vanilla, molasses, and a hint of chocolate arrives late. Bitterness is mild at best, and there is a hint of allspice. A bit sweet overall.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Lightly crisp throughout. Long lasting aftertaste as the flavors stick to the tongue.

Overall: a bit dissappointed with this as the vanilla beans really show through here without the woody tones a bourbon barrel beer may have. I really didn't taste any pumkin here as to me this was more of a vanilla porter.

Serving type: bottle

03-03-2012 18:45:41 | More by Gavage
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kojevergas

Texas

3.23/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I gained confidence in Epic after trying Big Bad Baptist, which really impressed me. So I picked this one up for $8.99 at a local shop. 1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a New Belgium stem-goblet in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are high given the style, hype, and brewery.

Exponential series. DC Brau collaboration. Release #8. 7.7% ABV according to my label.

Served straight from the fridge and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: Pours a two finger gorgeous frothy khaki colour head of very good cream and thickness, and good (~3 minute) retention for the high ABV. Body colour is a solid nontransparent opaque black. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Par for the style, but with a nice appealing head. So far so good. There's nothing unique or special about it.

Sm: Pumpkin gourd and some spice: nutmeg, cinnamon, maybe rosemary. Dark malts, cream, a hint of coffee. Timid underlying caramelization. Maybe a fleeting tinge of vanilla. A well executed aroma for a pumpkin porter. Evocative and appealing. Moderate in strength. I'm excited to try it. Little hopping here. Good aromatics.

T: Pumpkin notes are delightful; it's not just the meaty gourd but also the fruit aspect (yes, pumpkin is a fruit). Light spicing; mainly nutmeg but also some rosemary. Dark malts fill out the foundation with little caramelization. Some light milky cream lends the body character. It's simply executed, but effectively so. There's not a great deal of subtlety to it, but it hits the right notes for the style. No yeast character comes through, nor does any alcohol. I don't get any roasted barley, which is a damn shame. Coffee is also missing. There's maybe some chocolate malt here, but no true chocolate. Well layered and definitely balanced, but it does leave something to be desired. This isn't unique or special.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Some creamy quality. Good carbonation, if a touch too high. Good palate presence. Too thin; it flirts with weakness. This is by far its main flaw. Suits the flavours generally.

Dr: I like it, but it doesn't bring anything truly remarkable to the table. It's decently priced for what it is, and it isn't as messy as many collaboration beers. Hides its ABV well. Quite drinkable. I might try it on-draught (I'm told the DC Brau variant was draught only) but I wouldn't get the bottled version again. A likable pumpkin porter that will meet your expectations but not surpass them.

High C+

Beers to compare with: Alpine Ichabod

A poor candidate for aging. Drink within 1-6 months.

Drank fine from a goblet. A snifter or teku is probably ideal.

Pair with chocolate or marmalade on bread.

Serving type: bottle

01-25-2013 04:44:03 | More by kojevergas
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imperialking

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

10-22-2012 17:29:18 | More by imperialking
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corby112

Pennsylvania

3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Release #1.

Pours a dark caramel brown color with mahogany edges and a frothy, two finger beige head. Excellent retention, only slowly fading into a lasting cap that coats the glass with chunks of soapy lacing.

Slightly smokey dark malt aroma with an earthy, vegetal presence balancing out the roasted quality. Hints of chocolate, oatmeal and coffee bean countered by autumnal spice and pumpkin.

Medium bodied with a blast of autumnal spices up front that lingers over the roasted malt and sweet pumpkin into a dry finish. Lots of clove, cinnamon and brown sugar followed by the toasted dark malt notes. Hints of coffee, toast and oatmeal along with some silky chocolate malt before finishing with pumpkin and some nutmeg.

Overall this was an interesting experiment that is somewhat successful. It still has the roasted dark malt qualities of a porter with a subtle pumpkin presence. The spices are what really give it a seasonal feel. They are a bit heavy for my liking, overpowering the other notes a bit but this is still a pretty solid beer.

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2011 07:27:36 | More by corby112
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MarkyMOD

Colorado

4/5  rDev +4.4%

10-26-2012 03:11:32 | More by MarkyMOD
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Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 338 ratings.