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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
86
very good

428 Ratings
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Ratings: 428
Reviews: 132
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 11.2%
Wants: 21
Gots: 46 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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Photo of XmnwildX12
3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

XmnwildX12, Nov 25, 2013
Photo of oriolesfan4
4.25/5  rDev +10.7%

oriolesfan4, Nov 16, 2012
Photo of Halcyondays
4.03/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle, it's nice to see another pumpkin beer in the Southland besides Sam Adams and Punkin', as much as I like those beers, we need some variety,

A: Pours black with a medium tan head, good lace, thick, nice look.

S: Pumpkin flesh, dark chocolate, fragrant, nice.

T: Real heavy porter flavour upfront, charcoal, dark chocolate, vanilla beans. The pumpkin really comes out in the finish. Great pumpkin flesh flavour, with a hint of dark anise style spice.

M: Medium-bodied, creamy, rich, nice deep finish.

O: The close to $9 price tag for the bomber is not making me happy, but if this is going to be a regular offering in Southern CA in the pumpkin beer style, I'll certainly buy it because it is a good beer in the end, and frankly it doesn't get much better than this in the pumpkin beers offered in the Southland. We don't get Pumking of course. Epic continues to make good stuff.

Halcyondays, Sep 11, 2012
Photo of Gavage
3.13/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: pours a dark brown color with a 3" head that slowly falls to a thick surface foam. Thick lace paints the glass.

Smell: roasted malts and vanilla really come through to the nose.

Taste: roasted malts, vanilla, molasses, and a hint of chocolate arrives late. Bitterness is mild at best, and there is a hint of allspice. A bit sweet overall.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Lightly crisp throughout. Long lasting aftertaste as the flavors stick to the tongue.

Overall: a bit dissappointed with this as the vanilla beans really show through here without the woody tones a bourbon barrel beer may have. I really didn't taste any pumkin here as to me this was more of a vanilla porter.

Gavage, Mar 03, 2012
Photo of imperialking
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

imperialking, Oct 22, 2012
Photo of InspectorBob
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

InspectorBob, Oct 22, 2013
Photo of drewone
3.25/5  rDev -15.4%

drewone, Oct 27, 2013
Photo of corby112
3.6/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Release #1.

Pours a dark caramel brown color with mahogany edges and a frothy, two finger beige head. Excellent retention, only slowly fading into a lasting cap that coats the glass with chunks of soapy lacing.

Slightly smokey dark malt aroma with an earthy, vegetal presence balancing out the roasted quality. Hints of chocolate, oatmeal and coffee bean countered by autumnal spice and pumpkin.

Medium bodied with a blast of autumnal spices up front that lingers over the roasted malt and sweet pumpkin into a dry finish. Lots of clove, cinnamon and brown sugar followed by the toasted dark malt notes. Hints of coffee, toast and oatmeal along with some silky chocolate malt before finishing with pumpkin and some nutmeg.

Overall this was an interesting experiment that is somewhat successful. It still has the roasted dark malt qualities of a porter with a subtle pumpkin presence. The spices are what really give it a seasonal feel. They are a bit heavy for my liking, overpowering the other notes a bit but this is still a pretty solid beer.

corby112, Dec 21, 2011
Photo of dbrauneis
3.85/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Release #7

A: Pours an opaque but clear very dark amber (almost black) in color with dark brown highlights when held up to the light and light amounts of visible carbonation near the surface of the beer. The beer has a finger tall light tan head that quickly reduces to a medium sized patch of large bubbles, a thin film covering the majority the surface of the beer, and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate to significant amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Light to moderate aromas of roasted malts, chocolate, pumpkin, and vanilla. This is followed by much lighter notes of spices - nutmeg, cinnamon, allspice, and ginger.

T: Moderate flavors of roasted malts and chocolate upfront, followed by the flavor of the pumpkin and the vanilla. There are spicy notes in the finish with nutmeg, cinnamon, and ginger standing out.

M: Just shy of medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Slightly thin with a bit of dryness in the finish.

O: A very interesting take on a pumpkin beer, the pumpkin and pumpkin pie spices really add to the depth of flavor of the porter. Enjoyable and pretty easy to drink - the alcohol is well hidden.

dbrauneis, Oct 20, 2012
Photo of duceswild
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

duceswild, Nov 16, 2012
Photo of superspak
4.23/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass; release #12 bottled 7/22/2012. Pours nearly opaque clear dark reddish brown color with a 1-2 finger dense khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of chocolate, pumpkin, caramel, cocoa, roasted malt, cinnamon, nutmeg, clove, toast, vanilla, dark bread, ginger, and roasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of dark/roasted malt, pumpkin, and spice notes; with great strength. Taste of big chocolate, cocoa, roasted malt, pumpkin, caramel, cinnamon, toast, clove, nutmeg, vanilla, ginger, dark bread, and roasted earthiness. Lingering notes of chocolate, cocoa, roasted malt, toast, pumpkin, cinnamon, clove, nutmeg, ginger, dark bread, and roasted earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Fantastic balance, complexity, and robustness of dark malt, pumpkin, and spice flavors; with a great malt/spice balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light-medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a very creamy and moderately slick mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a highly excellent pumpkin porter! All around great balance, robustness, and complexity of dark malt, pumpkin, and spice flavors; and very smooth to sip on for the ABV. A highly enjoyable offering.

superspak, Oct 01, 2013
Photo of Zorro
4/5  rDev +4.2%

Dark brown nearly black colored beer with a medium sized light brown colored head.

Smells mild with a strong caramel scent. Spice is mild with s stronger chocolate scent.

Starts sweet with a lots of chocolate and a mild bitterness. Very mild pumpkin pie spices other than that this is basically a Porter. Spice gets stronger as it warms.

Overall this is a pumpkin spice porter.

Zorro, Sep 01, 2014
Photo of LXIXME
4/5  rDev +4.2%

LXIXME, Sep 10, 2014
Photo of afsdan
4/5  rDev +4.2%

afsdan, May 22, 2014
Photo of smakawhat
4/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Did you have pumpkin beer? You had pumkin beer. Dude what is wrong with you? Oh. It's a porter, ok well chalk this one up to different, plus I'll go see if I can cheer for the hometeam here (sort of). Poured on tap at Pizza Paradiso Dupont into a tumbler.

A nice light tan colored head, slightly creamy with tiny foam. Body is a dark brown walnut not much else. Looks fine from the start.

Nose is soft, squash, nutmeg, some mild sweet vanilla and clove, with mild sense of crust.

Taste brings nice roasting char and pumpkin spice mix. Mild burnt vanilla and warm brown spices of sweet nutmeg with a simple good body. Mild carbonation, good malt density to go with the spice as well.

Overall perhaps porter and pumpkin equals success! Quite suprised with this one, neat take and another good brew.

smakawhat, Nov 30, 2011
Photo of rab53
4/5  rDev +4.2%

rab53, Sep 14, 2013
Photo of billab914
3.83/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into my Dogfish glass. It poured black in color with a thick, foamy tan head to it. Very good head retention and lacing as I drank it.

The aroma shows some pumpkin pie spices to it, but it's milder and smoother then most pumpkin spiced beers. I also get some raw pumpkin mixing with some chocolaty, cocoa like flavors. I liked that the spices were a little more reserved.

In the taste I get a little more of the porter character coming out. I get a little more chocolate to it with a moderate roasty, slight coffee like flavors. The pumpkin and spices come in more on the back end. Again the spices are pretty mild and I get more of a raw pumpkin, squash like flavor.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied and carbonation is moderate. Overall I thought it was a pretty good beer. I really liked that the spices were a little more reserved in it and some actual pumpkin seemed to come out. There are tons of spice bombs out there so it was a little refreshing for me that this was a little different. The porter characteristics were nice as well and the flavors worked pretty well together. Overall a pretty nice beer of the style.

billab914, Nov 12, 2011
Photo of Kelp
3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

Kelp, Oct 12, 2013
Photo of beerthulhu
3.73/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Release #4.

A: Corkboard tinted head is slight but shows a moderate rate of retention atop a standard issue black porter coloring. Generous lace coverage.

S: The aroma is sweet of chocolate and cocoa most noticeably. Pumpkin spiced coffee with ginger and cinnamon come through along with some vanilla and pie crust.

T: The flavor is pumpkin spicing of cinnamon and ginger once again, sweet coffee roast. Pumpkin, sweet toffee and milky chocolate support as well vanilla. The finish finds a light chalky fade of creamer powder on the close out.

M: Thick oily roast mouthful with a lively carbonation factor.

O: Overall a nice pumpkin influence and spicing with a decent imperial porter malt base. Worthy a try.

beerthulhu, Mar 19, 2012
Photo of sendbeer
4/5  rDev +4.2%

sendbeer, Oct 23, 2013
Photo of JohnGalt1
3.8/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Epic Collaboration with DC Brau.

From Epic's website:

"Brewed on: October 10, 2011. Packaged on: October 25, 2011.

Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style."

Poured into my new Cigar City snifter... pretty decent dark tan head... nice retention and lacing... the brew is deep dark brown that shows garnet highlights on the stem end of my glass.

Nose is a pretty good porter ... dry cocoa and then the spices come out swinging... clove.. ginger... nutmeg and cinnamon...

Flavor mirrors the nose with a sweet spice up front that gives way midpalate to a dry roasty malt and bittersweet chocolate... finish lingers with ginger and nutmeg.

Body is a solid medium with good small bubble carbonation.

I normally don't really appreciate beers with spices, but this one shows a judicious hand... nicely done, but finishing the bomber is going to be a chore for me.

4/3.5/4/4/3.5

JohnGalt1, Nov 06, 2011
Photo of liamt07
3.85/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Steve, 650ml into a tulip. Release #8.

Black body with a light brown head. Good retention and spots of lace. Nose has some light pumpkin pie spicing, some roast, smoke and some peripheral vegetal and anise. Taste is roasty and drying, cocoa, pumpkin pie spicing midpalate and into the finish. Creamy thinner medium body and medium low carbonation. A nice pumpkin spiced porter, much nicer as it warms.

liamt07, Dec 24, 2012
Photo of iL0VEbeer
4.5/5  rDev +17.2%

iL0VEbeer, Oct 13, 2012
Photo of Rhettroactive
4/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

From 22oz bomber to Bruges hybrid glass on 11/21/11
*From notes

A: Really? We're calling this a Porter? It looks more like a drab brown ale. A decent pour yields a loose two finger head. with minor, unspectacular lacing.

S: Pretty solid. Hints of all spice, toasted pumpkin seed and cinnamon.

T: A bit toasty and charry up front. The mid showcases all spice and a touch of cinammon. The pumpkin's there too, yet it's more of a kiss, which is actually quite nice. The finish comes off like a chocolately pumpkin cinnamon candy, sans the residual sugar. Quite a robust beer for a "pumpkin ale".

M: Really on point. Rich and voluptous in the mouth. Regardless of the flavors it's packing, this is one of the better mouthfeels for a porter I've come across of recent.

O: This one really surprised me. I was in no way expecting this to be as charming as it is. DC Brau & Epic have assembled one of the better pumpkin beers of 2011, and one I could actually stomach more then 5oz of. I hope this sees the shelves again next year. Well done, gents.

Rhettroactive, Dec 21, 2011
Photo of Cynic-ale
4/5  rDev +4.2%

Cynic-ale, Jul 30, 2013
Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 428 ratings.