Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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Reviews: 143
Hads: 497
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 6.01%
Wants: 20
Gots: 59 | FT: 0
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Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011

Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.
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Photo of kemoarps
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

4.25/3.5/4.25/4/4
#18
Body comes across a bit murky and more a darker shade of the creamy brown of the root beer in a rootbeer float after the ice cream is gone. But, like, almost no ice cream was there in the first place. Ruddy in the light around the edges. A good finger worth of creamy brown head -- still there as I fumble over words and check my voicemail, there's still about half a finger left. Great lacing as well.

I get almost no pumpkin whatsoever on the nose. This isn't the end of the world: pumpkin beers are alright by me, but I'm not a huge fan or anything, it just would seem that a pumpkin beer would have more, you know, pumpking to it. I get mostly kind of an ashy creamy unpronounced sweet. As I let it warm, the sweet coalesces into something akin to good chocolate with some generalized earthy notes that must be the great gourd itself. It continues to gently slope in this direction as the molecules start to move and stretch a little more.

The tongue offers significantly more going on than the aroma suggested. Whether this is good or not depends on what flavours you like. I happen to enjoy a cool creamy chocolate juxtaposed with bitter coffee, with just enough nutmeg and cinnamon to draw out the mild pumpkin underneath it all. Char and almost a milkstout like creamy sweetness prevail: a combination I really really like. Creamy and smoothe going down.
OH! I found the pumpkin! It was faint faint faint at the best, until I burped (eh, get over it). That was almost completely pumpkin meat, oddly enough, and after that I got more of the pumpkin in the finish and aftertaste each sip.

Ignoring the pumpkin aspect of this, I really like the milky charry chocolatey coffee and nutmeg that this offers. The pumpkin isn't pronounced enough for me to really think of this as pumpkin beer, or to distract from the above mentioned flavours that just so happen to be right up my alley. (1,914 characters)

Photo of JohnIrving
2.71/5  rDev -29.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Release 19. Poured from the bomber in to a stout/porter glass and allowed to warm considerably. Aroma of pumpkin with lesser notes of chocolate and roasty malts. Taste is the same, with some warming alcohol from the 8%+ abv. Medum-heavy mouthfeel that sticks around. By the end of the bomber, I was wishing I could try the base porter without the pumpkin spices. (363 characters)

Photo of 1sophrosyne1
3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Poured into my DC Brau can glass from a 22 ounce bottle sent by MNishCT77.

Pours thick syrup brown with a hint of rouge and a thin with a thin light-tan head that leaves foamy-cream sheets of lacing, despite falling rather fast. Maintained well by carbonation that's not visible through the mire.

The nose fits well with the stock description above...raw vegetal notes of squash sprayed with a fine resin jump up early. Vanilla dusted onto charred malt comes next. Cinnamon and nutmeg then usher in the chocolate, whose milky and grassy lightness are reflected in the taste profile. It's a complex bouquet that, for me, is the best part of the experience. With warmth, the milk chocolate and nutmeg notes strengthen in a pleasing way.

I had hoped for a spicier start to sips that would open up the pumpkin flavor early, but the namesake vegetable really only plays a role in the warm aftertaste. For me, it's more butternut squash-like early and through the mid taste. The back third is bitter, but not tied to the chocolate, so I get a milkier smoothness and fresh herbs from hops that create the most interesting part of the flavor profile. They don't last long, though. It ends sharply upturned and a bitter, smoked cucurbits lingers.

In the mouth it's almost clean when cold, and develops some chew with more gulps and warming. There's a thin veil of anesthetic buzz from essential oils that stick to the lips. Overall, it's got medium heft with a good match of carbonation, but there's nothing thrilling about how it feels...and it starts to become a drying epoxy about halfway through a glass.

This is a good beer to pair with fruit, like apples or pears...or even a peach would be good, I'd venture--if you can get one during the season of its release. I'll admit that I have rarely been thrilled with pumpkin beers, so my lukewarm perspective may be slanted. But, it's a creative brew, not cloying or out of balance, so I'll take it as an autumn accompaniment to football season. (1,992 characters)

Photo of Treyliff
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Release #9, poured into a snifter

A- pours an opaque dark brown color with a two-finger creamy and foamy light-tan head that retains nicely after the pour leaving some short-lasting lace behind

S- raw vegetal aromas of pumpkin/squash up front mix with robust porter notes with highlights of chocolate, charred/smoky malt, herbal/earthy hops. Cinnamon is most prominent of the pumpkin spice aromas with traces of nutmeg & allspice as well. Cinnamon & chocolaty porter aromas mix nicely

T- the base porter is nice and robust with notes of dark chocolate mixing with some smoky roasted malt, also a hint of coffee & some nutty notes. The raw vegetal flavor is more prominent than most pumpkin beers, with flavors of both raw pumpkin & squash. Cinnamon seems to stick out most, out of the spicing, with hints of nutmeg & allspice icing in as well. The finish is slightly sweet with more spicing and a vanilla cream linger

M- medium chewy body with moderate carbonation leads to a creamy mouthfeel and a silky smooth finish

O- a different take on a pumpkin ale that worked nicely with the robust porter. I'd like to see more pumpkin porters/stouts (1,155 characters)

Photo of DenverHopHead
3.65/5  rDev -4.7%

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into a pub glass.
Appearance - surprisingly dark; in fact this is black with just a touch of blood orange at the bottom of the glass. A thin, mocha head leaves a sticky curtain of lace down the glass!
Smell - sweet malts, molasses and spice; very little pumpkin.
Taste - initial sip is sweet with a flavorful rush of butter, cream and spice! I detect far more cherry than pumpkin.
Feel - sweet, creamy and flavorful! Medium body that has excellent drinkability for the 8.4% ABV!
Overall - an unexpected surprise; this may be one I seek out each Fall! (577 characters)

Photo of the_awesometeer
3.98/5  rDev +3.9%

Appearance - Pitch black. Thick foamy head which laces the glass.
Smell - smell of pumpkin spice comes strong, then the smells of coffee and a typical porter come in second.
Taste - porter with a hint of pumpkin, but a nice spice after taste. Taste very good
Mouthfeel- Smoothy, very creamy. I did get a flem in my throat after not sure if the beer caused it with the spices.
Overall - Great beer, very much a porter with a hint of pumpkin and spice. Not an overwhelming pumpkin flavor (490 characters)

Photo of dorianmarley
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Straightforward in body and flavor, with cola adding drinkability. Striking bitterness. Not dry for a porter. Pumpkin flavor is simple and smart. I appreciate the restraint on spice. Overall, a good beer, and a fun play on a porter, but the flavors are too restrained to be especially memorable. (295 characters)

Photo of Benish
4.25/5  rDev +11%

Batch # 18. Poured into snifter glass.

Appearance: nice creamy tan head presented which dissipated very slowly. Color was like any typical porter - brownish black.

Smell: Instantly picked up some pumpkin pie spices. Can also smell subtle pie crust and brown sugar and coffee. Smell is outstanding. Can't get enough of it.

Taste: not overly spiced like most pumpkin ales. Very mild pumpkin flavor. The flavor of the porter dominates with the pumpkin notes on the side. The porter itself is outstanding with its malty mellow sweetness. Also notes of coffee at the finish.

Mouthfeel: smooth and creamy

Overall: outstanding. It's not an overkill like other pumpkin beers are. It is well executed in a porter. The smell was truly outstanding. (747 characters)

Photo of Zorro
4/5  rDev +4.4%

Dark brown nearly black colored beer with a medium sized light brown colored head.

Smells mild with a strong caramel scent. Spice is mild with s stronger chocolate scent.

Starts sweet with a lots of chocolate and a mild bitterness. Very mild pumpkin pie spices other than that this is basically a Porter. Spice gets stronger as it warms.

Overall this is a pumpkin spice porter. (383 characters)

Photo of clayrock81
3.88/5  rDev +1.3%

Poured a almost black body with minimal head and no lace.
Aroma is dominated by pumpkin and spices like cinnamon and nutmeg, and just hints of sweet and roasted malts.
I like pumpkin beers so I enjoyed this beer but calling it a pumpkin porter is a stretch in my opinion.
Medium-bodied and pretty much dominated by pumpkin and pumpkin spice flavors, the roasted and chocolate malts in this beer at barely noticeable at their best.
Not really a complaint or criticism, I just feel that this a pumpkin beer with subtle porter qualities rather than a porter with pumpkin added to it.
Finishes easy and I enjoyed this beer. (619 characters)

Photo of challenja
4.5/5  rDev +17.5%

22oz bottle served into a Boulevard tulip glass

A: Black cafe body with no light permeability, mellow off orange white 2 finger head.

S: Pumpkin pie, cinnamon, allspice, vanilla bean.

T: Dominican medium roast coffee, alcohol estringent, vanilla bean, pumpkin gourd, allspice, hop bitters and nutmeg.

M: Medium to full body, smooth velvet, with no burnt characteristics.

O: This is a very well made porter/ pumpkin ale hybrid. Not as smoky as a great porters go, not as overpowering and robust as most great pumpkin ales go, but a damn solid hybrid beer made by two great beer companies that I will introduce friends to. (628 characters)

Photo of darthvohn
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Glass Used: snifter

Appearance: Poured dark brown, which looks opaque at first but once you hold it up to the light you see hues of deep garnet around the edges and bottom of the glass. The head foamed to a quarter inch and subsides slowly, leaving patches of residue floating on top.

Smell: Roasty, Chocolatety with vanilla & caramel notes followed by the stronger pumpkin pie spices. A wiff of booze lingers at the end.

Taste: Roast & Chocolate rolls first, then comes the vanilla, allspice, nutmeg and hints of cinnamon. The gourd flavors and creaminess are present before the low bitter hop finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-light, on the thinner side with decent carbonation. Somewhat dry finish.

Overall: I really enjoyed this as for me it was a porter first, with support from the pumpkin and pie flavors. If you're looking for a pumpkin beer that isn't overly sweet, or heavy this is for you. (898 characters)

Photo of Rhettbuck
4/5  rDev +4.4%

Got this at my local liquor store in the Fall of 2013, drank it recently in the late Summer of 2014. So keep in mind that my bottle was aged.

Appearance: Dark like a stout, but the head is foamy and takes a couple of minutes to dissipate. Good lacing around the glass

Taste:Sweet, not overwhelming pumpkin flavor. A lingering carmel note after finish.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, and clean.

Smell: Vanilla and carmel notes, really a great smelling beer.

I would absolutely buy this again. IN FACT I WILL (502 characters)

Photo of Phelps
3.71/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle into a wine glass.

Thick, heavy black, a midnight cloak. Head is well-formed and very retentive, a good inch and a half tall and khaki in color. It hangs out for several minutes and paints the glass in full, thick sheets.

Sweet roasted pumpkin and milk chocolate lead the nose. A splash of nutmeg and clove, a little caramel, some toasted biscuits. Toasty, malty nose.

Fresher pumpkin in the flavor, brighter. More clove, lots of alcohol. Cinnamon and allspice ring through upon the swallow. Interestingly, not much from the malts. Maybe a dash of cocoa. Lingering burnt roast.

Velvety, medium body, silky. Spices seem to provide more bitterness than hops. Some peppery alcohol heat. Silky smooth. Very mild, tingly carbonation.

Not outstanding, but very smooth. Goes down easily for its strength, which is substantial. It's all about smoothness with this one. Flavors are well blended, body is gentle. (919 characters)

Photo of fgmiele
3.96/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Release #13...slc#1169. Pours dark deep mahogany with some ruby tones when held up to the light with a nice white foamy head. Smell is pumpkin pie spice, malt, chocolate. Taste is bitter and sour, sweet pumpkin pie flavor followed up by a sourness that leaves a lingering allspice/cocoa flavor on the back of the palate. Mouthfeel is bubbly and thin, unlike a true porter in my eyes. Not as thick as a stout should feel. Overall.. Combined with aroma and flavor this type of beer is ideal for me, just wish the sweetness of the aroma permeated through the taste into something creamier and bitier. The sourness of the after taste, and almost acridness takes away from what the aroma promises, but overall decent. (712 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.48/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Clashing of the heads between DC Brau and Epic brewing companies results in a bold-bodied Porter with threads of pumpkin pie, chocolate and spice running through.

Fermentation Without Representation pours with a hazy bronzen-brown hue that glows lightly at its edges with a tawny gold glow. As a fast rise of ivory foam builds, its staying power is limited as the froth folds back into the beer midway through the session, trickling with sparse lace intermittently.

Its porter-esque aromas are toasty, nutty and delicately of chocolate. Notions of coffee waft about as the spiciness take the stage- cinnamon, nutmeg and clove weave together with an allspice-type medley. Its light pumpkin and brownie aroma is well intact, except for the lacking pumpkin scent.

As the toast, coffee and chocolate character introduces to the palate, supportive caramel and toffee is semi-sweet earl but trails dry and toasty. Meanwhile, its middle is spicy with pie spices, coffee ground, pepper and toasted pecan. Glimpses of gourd give a creamy pie flavor, but also with squash and melon.

Semi-dry in mouthfeel, the imperial beer trends toasty, spicy, dry and lightened- somewhat off of the more decadent pie filling texture that's not only expected but is what's preferred. Somewhat acrid and astringent with the spices, the finish is warm and cola-like.

The beer purists that want ales to lead with more Porter character will enjoy the subtlties of the pumpkin influence found here. But the true pie flavors won't command the taste in the way that most modern pumpkin ales do. (1,567 characters)

Photo of thegodfather1076
3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Presentation: Very classy label with really nice colors an a very attractive layout. Label states “Collaboration with DC Brau”, “Exceptional Series”, “Release #9”, give a bit of brewery info, ABV info, and web info.

Appearance: An aggressive pour from its 22oz brown bomber into a 20oz imperial pint led to a 3 finger tightly packed tan head atop a deep dark brown if not black beer. Head retention was a phenomenal 5min 14sec with no signs of dissipating fully. Head faded to a thick rocky cap and ring with phenomenal lacing.

Smell/Aroma: Smells of deep toasted chocolate and coffee malts with hints of vanilla, very light pumpkin and just barely any spices.

Flavor/Taste: Tastes of fresh pumpkin and a slight bit of nutmeg and cinnamon on the front end with the pumpkin a bit more subdued than I expected. Mid point has a vanilla sweetness with a nice toasted chocolate maltiness detectable. Back end is dominated by a deep roast coffee malt flavor with a slight hint of pumpkin and a roasty aftertaste.

MouthFeel/Drinkability: Medium bodied with a smooth mouthfeel. Very drinkable and tasty.

Overall/Comments: I was expecting a bit more out of this offering but I will say that it was still a pretty good overall beer that was very drinkable. I would have like to see a bit more prominent pumpkin flavor. Classified as a Pumpkin Ale @ 8% ABV. Consumed 10/27/2013. (1,399 characters)

Photo of dacrza1
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

DATE TASTED: October 26, 2013... GLASSWARE: HopDevil nonick... OCCASION: offering PSU some comeback inspiration... APPEARANCE: jet black body; oatmeal-thick brown head; lacing is uneven but thick as well... AROMA: crisp, candied flavor; toasted nut and oat undergird thee spiciness that is as much holiday as mischief night...PALATE: slightly warming, medium-bodied and drinkable--the IMPERIAL aspect is so subtle one quickly/nervously sips...TASTE: pumpkin, apple, peat and an odd funk of medicinal/plastic bottle vodka that takes the rating down a click--still big and old...OVERALL: of the handful of fall bombers I bought, this dares to blend the fall and winter seasons, and it does so deftly; a powerful punch of alcohol by the bottle's end only endears the drink more...more the Galloping Hessian than the Great Pumpkin, in terms of its substance and strength... (869 characters)

Photo of Jackofallbrews
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Aroma: Milk chocolate, nutmeg and cinnamon aromas. Some sweet malty notes. I get a subtle roastiness to the aroma as it warms, followed by some vanilla.

Appearance: Deep black in color with ruby highlights when held up to light. Dark tan head with fine and persistent bubbles.

Flavor: Initially this tastes a bit firm and astringent, but then it fades off to a sweeter coffee and cream later in the taste. The nutmeg, cinnamon and vanilla arrive as an afterthought on the back of the tongue. The body is medium, but actually feels lighter than expected with the high alcohol. A somewhat bitter and off-dry finish.

Overall: Not a bad beer. This had better balance than many of the pumpkin beers I've had so far. I think the darker malts add complexity, and play well with the spices. Not a lot of actual pumpkin character comes through though. Just like most of the prior examples this has an astringent note--I'm starting to wonder if that is from the spices or from pumpkin itself... (988 characters)

Photo of mattkoon
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

i have never had a pumpkin porter- so i was excited to try this one. it pours a deep brown- basically black, (held up to the light you can tell it is actually brown). the smell is filled with chocolate roasted malts. there are also hints of vanilla and spices riding along but the chocolate malt is the main force here. the taste is it rich and dark, after the 3rd sip i can start to taste the spices come through. this is a pretty good beer. i like the idea of the pumpkin porter and this one is good- if i ever see anymore like this ill give them a try. (555 characters)

Photo of hopsputin
3.87/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Release #12. bottles 2012, drank 2013

a: dark black with hints of purple towards the bottom of the glass. large 3-4 finger beige head that seems to be hanging around. gets a little rocky on the top as it dissipates

s: its loaded with toasted and roasted malts. lots of milk chocolate and vanilla fill the nose. there is a nice creamy malt sweetness that helps blend everything as well. no hint of pumpkin or spices though...I assume the year has faded them

t: more pumpkin than the nose indicated, but not much - again a year old bottle may have something to do with that. its not strong, but you do get that pumpkin pulp flavor in here, which provides some initial sweetness. its then followed by a quick spice (clove/graham..i know thats not a spice) jolt, which fades to the roasted malty porter flavor - full of roasted malts and bittersweet chocolate, with the slightest hint of lactose to add some nice creaminess. finishes with some alcohol

m: medium mouthfeel. quite a bit of carbonation though

o: again - this is a year old. its an alright porter, however the pumpkin qualities (while there) are nowhere as present as i'd like them to be. perhaps they're stronger in fresher bottles. it can stand on its own as a porter, but if you're looking for a pumpkin porter - this year old bottle won't give you what you're searching for (1,342 characters)

Photo of Danimals_Beard
4.65/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Good thick head. A solid rich dark color, moderate lacing. Carbonating Is on the lighter side, but not weak or flat. Smells strongly of nutmeg, vanilla bean, but not so much pumpkin. The taste however taste like pumpkin and vanilla. I definitely have the urge to make a pumpkin porter shake with this one. It's got a pleasant mouthfeel, has a good crispness to it for a porter. Very drinkable, overall, my favorite Pumpkin Porter next to Four Peaks. (449 characters)

Photo of ONovoMexicano
3.77/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from the bomber into a snifter. 2012 offering.

The beer pours pitch black and glugs out healthily, leaving a moderate, creamy, khaki colored head. The head appears chewy and persists for quite a while.

The smell is roasted malt, toffee, and hints of bourbon. There is also a strong sweetness, somewhat like molasses or black licorice. The taste is an extension of these aromas, as the sweetness persists, as do the deep roasty malts and toffee. The pumpkin is entirely subtle and only emerges at the end of the palate.

Finally, the beer drinks smoothly with a creamy quality and the alcohol is pretty well masked. A good beer, yet something seems to be missing. I can't place my finger on it, but this beer certainly doesn't quite compete with the best in the business. Good but not great. (800 characters)

Photo of superspak
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass; release #12 bottled 7/22/2012. Pours nearly opaque clear dark reddish brown color with a 1-2 finger dense khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass. Aromas of chocolate, pumpkin, caramel, cocoa, roasted malt, cinnamon, nutmeg, clove, toast, vanilla, dark bread, ginger, and roasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of dark/roasted malt, pumpkin, and spice notes; with great strength. Taste of big chocolate, cocoa, roasted malt, pumpkin, caramel, cinnamon, toast, clove, nutmeg, vanilla, ginger, dark bread, and roasted earthiness. Lingering notes of chocolate, cocoa, roasted malt, toast, pumpkin, cinnamon, clove, nutmeg, ginger, dark bread, and roasted earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Fantastic balance, complexity, and robustness of dark malt, pumpkin, and spice flavors; with a great malt/spice balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light-medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a very creamy and moderately slick mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a slight warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is a highly excellent pumpkin porter! All around great balance, robustness, and complexity of dark malt, pumpkin, and spice flavors; and very smooth to sip on for the ABV. A highly enjoyable offering. (1,409 characters)

Photo of bluejacket74
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bottle, Release #9, 8.1% ABV. I checked Epic's website, and it says it was brewed on 6/26/2012, packaged on 7/8/2012. Looks like our local beer stores are still selling last year's bottles since I just picked this up a few weeks ago, kinda surprised since I didn't see it around last year. Oh well, this should still be good. Served in a Sam Adams Perfect Pint glass, the beer pours dark brown with about an inch tan head that stayed around for a long time. There's also a good amount of lacing. The brew smells like roasted/grainy malt, pumpkin, nutmeg, cloves, bittersweet chocolate and cinnamon. Taste is similar to the aroma, but with the addition of some ginger. Nice mix between pumpkin and porter. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's coating, smooth and easy to drink with moderate carbonation. I liked this brew a lot, although I would like to try a fresher bottle of this at some point. Definitely worth a try. $5.99 a bomber. (939 characters)

Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 143 ratings.