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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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86
very good

336 Ratings
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Ratings: 336
Reviews: 119
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 11.23%
Wants: 18
Gots: 24 | FT: 1
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Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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Gueuzedude

Arizona

3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch #1; Sampled November 2011
A solid pour into my Lost Abbey Teku glass produces a three-finger thick, light tan colored head that leaves some light lacing on the sides of the glass as it slowly subsides. The beer is a concentrated brown color with suggestions of black to it; when held up to the light it shows a brilliantly clear, deep, concentrated ruby and plum color. The nose smells of brown toasted bread and an initial tartness that seems sort of pumpkin like; this last is surprising as I wasn’t expecting to notice any actual pumpkin in this beer. My second sniff has me noticing sweet spice notes of cinnamon and cardamom, some sweet clove and maybe some of the tartness is actually accentuated by a light ginger note. Ah, the sweetness is really accentuated by a smooth vanilla note that I am mistaking for an actual sweetness.

The beer is lightly sweet, even somewhat light bodied on the palate. It finishes with a roasted bitterness that is a bit like cold black coffee as well as a lingering spiciness and hint of tartness that also lingers on for quite some time in the finish. The spiciness contributes notes of nutmeg, cardamom, perhaps a touch of allspice, clove and a definite vanilla note. The body has a light prickliness to it from the carbonation and it does have a viscous texture to it up front, it finishes light though as the combination of roast, bitterness and spiciness lightens up the effect of this beer pretty quickly. The beer is certainly a bit colder than I would perhaps prefer right now, but that is easily remedied. This has a prominent astringency / bitterness to it, though I am not sure what all contributes to this; certainly roast malt and perhaps some hop bitterness does, but there seems to be more to it somehow. As the beer warms up the spices open up a bit more with the cardamom, a touch of ginger, some smooth clove notes and perhaps some of the sharpness comes from some peppercorn notes in the finish.

Interestingly enough, this beer does actually have some real pumpkin noticeable in both the aroma and flavor; it is light, but certainly adds some tartness and a bit of a squash / vegetal note to this beer. The spice character here is actually somewhat restrained compared to most pumpkin beers and it actually works pretty well. I am surprised that I am not getting an anise aroma or flavor from this beer though as that seems to be one of the more noticeable notes in beers that have had Five-Spice added to them; though perhaps this blend of Five-Spice is different. An interesting go at a Pumpkin Porter; it could really use a touch more body and rounded malt flavor to balance out the spiciness and the roast bitterness that can be a touch distracting in this beer.

Serving type: bottle

02-18-2012 02:07:05 | More by Gueuzedude
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JohnnyMc

Ohio

4.23/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

So far, this might be my favorite from Epic. The aroma has nice chocolate and coffee notes with some subtle spice. The flavor is a perfect blend of a traditional pumpkin spice beer combined with a great porter.

From the first sip pumpkin hits you, but then fades to chocolate and keeps you coming back for more. A great, great beer especially for the colder months.

Serving type: bottle

02-16-2012 01:43:49 | More by JohnnyMc
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MBrausen

Minnesota

2.95/5  rDev -23%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Reviewed from notes.

A. Pours a dark brown orange, 1 finger thick head, great lacing and rests at a 1mm head

S. Mild to no smell, pumpkin and a hint of light chocolate.

T. Tastes of sweet pumpkin,lots of orange and a hint of spices, but not too much.

M. Medium body, high carbonation, mildly chewy and coarse.

O. A pretty decent beer, but could use a more over the top pumpkin flavor. It was very blended and more simple than what you normally get from Epic.

Serving type: on-tap

02-01-2012 21:34:46 | More by MBrausen
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samie85

Illinois

3.18/5  rDev -17%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A-Pours a pitch black color with a few fingers of brown head.

S-Smells of cinnamon and other pumpkin pie spices with some slight vanilla and roasted notes.

T-Roasted malt notes with a myriad of spice notes and some vanilla.

M-Slick and mouth-coating with medium body with moderate carbonation.

D-I like this more than most pumpkin beers as I feel that a richer base beer really works in a spiced beer's favor. However, I think I prefer Summit's take on a Pumpkin Porter to this incarnation.

Serving type: bottle

01-31-2012 05:14:51 | More by samie85
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abraxel

Michigan

3.15/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Tasted blind as part of Blind BIF 6, courtesy of mdfb79. Poured into a snifter.

A - The stream looked like a light reddish brown, but is quite a bit darker in the glass. There's a little bit of off-white head, but it diminishes quickly (which helped it all fit into the snifter).

S - Christmas spicy, some cinnamon, clove, and nutmeg. Slightly sweet malt in the background. Not bad, but not great.

T - My out-loud reaction to the first sip: "...hmmm..." This seems like a christmas ale, with those same spices I picked up in the aroma, but there's also an odd sweetness that I'm having trouble describing (it reminds me of fake orange flavor) and which isn't very appealing.

M - Medium body, not bad. A little prickle of carbonation, a touch of alcohol in the back of my throat.

Overall, I could take it or leave it. This was an interesting blind beer, but I can't say I'd seek out more.

Serving type: bottle

01-25-2012 15:48:15 | More by abraxel
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ChadC12

Arizona

3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

01-20-2012 05:28:34 | More by ChadC12
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Brenden

Ohio

3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Release # 4.

This beer is dark brown with a big, rocky medium-brown head that's creamy and frothy yet very dense. Big, sticky lacing is left in pretty heavy deposits on the glass.
The aroma is light but not lacking. It's a good aroma diplaying great balance between the pumpkin and the spices without going too far or stopping too short on either. Spices seem to include the typical nutmeg and cinnamon with something a little leafier and gentler as well as something gently hot but not peppery.
The taste follows suit. It's a very nice, well-balanced and potent flavor, even adding a bit of hoppiness, until a strange thing happens: within just a short time, the pumpkin and spices fade out and I find I'm just drinking a regular porter. I like porters, and it's a good one, but this is not supposed to happen.
The mouthfeel is good, an appropriate medium body with moderate carbonation setting the stage for a fairly thick and creamy brew.

Serving type: bottle

01-16-2012 17:03:17 | More by Brenden
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TheBoozeTraveler

Tennessee

4.5/5  rDev +17.5%

01-12-2012 15:37:28 | More by TheBoozeTraveler
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csiewert

Oregon

4/5  rDev +4.4%

01-11-2012 18:49:26 | More by csiewert
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mntlover

Tennessee

4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a black deep walnut color when held to the light with a big fluffy tan head from an aggressive pour that falls slow and laces well. Defiantly a porter looking brew.

Aroma is nice mocha, chocolate mingled with light coffee notes that's lightly roasted as a base. On this base is spice nutmeg mainly with some light vanilla hints dashes of cinnamon and allspice. Pumpkin and porter notes go well together.

Taste is just like the aroma a pumpkin porter, roasted coffee and chocolate notes, with pumpkin beer added in spices all mingled together for something unique and enjoyable.

Mouthfeel is good for a porter medium with medium level of carbonation.

Overall a solid brew enjoyable and fun to drink surprised I haven't seen a pumpkin porter before.

Serving type: bottle

01-03-2012 02:02:51 | More by mntlover
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TechTriumph

Virginia

3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From notes on 12/03/11:
Release #1 w/ no freshness date; Poured in a pint glass.

A - One inch tan, soft head; Deep, dark brownish, ruby red color that approaches black; Pretty good lacing around the glass

S - Soft notes of pumpkin, ginger spice, cinnamon, dark chocolate, and roasted coffee beans

T - Begins with light vanilla and chocolate accompanied by subtle spices and a dash of pumpkin; Marshmallow and vanilla flavors come in the finish; A little bitterness is present throughout the taste; No hint of alcohol

M - Low to moderate carbonation; Smooth, velvet-like texture; Medium to full bodied; Finishes moderately dry, leaving a soft marshmallow-like coat on the tongue

O - This was a pretty good porter overall, though there was a bit too much ginger and vanilla flavor that pushed the pumpkin back into the background. The mouthfeel was nice and smooth, and the best overall feature of this beer. It was nice to try a mix of pumpkin and porter flavors, but this wasn't a brew that stood out for me.

Serving type: bottle

01-01-2012 15:21:26 | More by TechTriumph
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ColForbinBC

New Jersey

4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a goblet; batch #4

Pours a ruddy dark brown with a less than one finger beige cap. The head falls to form a thin powdered sugar coating. Rings of lace show each sip mark.

Nutmeg, ginger, cinnamon and allspice in a nice balance greet the nostrils. A layer of cocoa, roast and a touch of ethanol round out the aroma.

This is a pleasant little surprise. The spices take a bit of a back seat while roast and cocoa hit you first. Then nutmeg, ginger, cinnamon and allspice carry through the middle. The finish is a pretty nice balance of roast and spice. A little bit of fleshy pumpkin comes through in the finish.

Medium body, creamy and well-balanced. This is a nice porter with a lingering cocoa bitterness and a touch of spice.

I enjoyed this offering. A light porter, but full on the spice and pumpkin to make this a solid offering. I appreciate non-traditional takes on the pumpkin ale. Not every one has to be an amber or brown base.

Serving type: bottle

12-31-2011 02:57:12 | More by ColForbinBC
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TasteTester

Ohio

4/5  rDev +4.4%

12-31-2011 01:04:24 | More by TasteTester
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Pencible

Virginia

4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: This poured a clear black ruby with thick light tan head.
S: It smelled like bitter dark chocolate with roasted coffee and whole grain bread, and a bit of mulled spices.
T: It tasted like bitter dark chocolate and coffee, with pumpkin and a bit of whole grain bread and mulled spices. It had a clean and bitter aftertaste.
M: It was somewhat thick with moderate carbonation. Nice full body.
D: This was a surprisingly good pumpkin porter. The scent was generic, but the taste was unique and well balanced. It had nice body too, with well hidden alcohol, so it was easy to drink. Recommended to at least try.

Serving type: bottle

12-30-2011 20:02:50 | More by Pencible
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kagent777

Utah

4.35/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I got this one as a work Christmas present (I kind of asked for it :-)) Poured into my beer goblet for tasting on a cool winter's night in SLC. Release #5 and 7.6% ABV.

Appearance: Brown in the glass but a really nice crystal clear garnet when held up to the light. This one poured with a nice fluffy tan head that settled after a little bit to a thick film on the beer. It did leave some lacing on my glass. Really a fine looking beer.

Smell: All sorts of autumn spices. I think I can pick out nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon. I nice mild pumpkin is in the background also. All of this combined with a nice roasty malt character to be expected with a porter. A touch of solvent alcohol is present as well.

Taste: The taste is very nice. Up front, there is some bitterness combining with a autumn spices. The pumpkin is pretty subtle, but noticeable. After the bitterness is gone, the porter semisweetness comes along, but never in a cloying sort of way. While this is called an "Imperial porter" the taste is not overwhelming at any point. The subtle chocolate roastiness from the malts really blends nicely with the autumn spices. A strong offering from Epic.

Mouthfeel: No problems the beer is medium bodied and carbonation is on the low side. The finish is also medium.

Overall: I really enjoyed this beer. A nice seasonal offering from Epic and one of my favorite autumn seasonals this year. This could be one offered to newbies, if they enjoy porters in the first place.

Serving type: bottle

12-30-2011 04:48:12 | More by kagent777
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Hojaminbag

Colorado

3.03/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Fermentation Without Representation has a mahogany colored body with a thin tan head that disappears almost immediately.

There are a lot of spices in the nose, with some sweet malt hiding underneath.

Spices come through up front, with what I think is a blend of cinnamon, nutmeg and allspice. A light touch of bitterness with some citrus from the hops is next. The malt has caramel and toasted flavors with a little bit of powdery chocolate flavor. Pretty short finish.

The body is a little bit light, with the carbonation being a little bit higher than I would expect.

This beer isn't bad, but it is fairly uninspiring and lacking any depth of flavor. As my buddy said, “if you're going to call a beer an imperial pumpkin porter, it better have pumpkin. Or at least taste like an imperial porter.”

Serving type: bottle

12-28-2011 18:08:37 | More by Hojaminbag
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mater

Ohio

4/5  rDev +4.4%

12-27-2011 08:58:08 | More by mater
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andrewm190

North Carolina

4.38/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is a fantastic beer! I'm surprised it hasn't received higher reviews thus far. I'm typically not a fan of the pumpkin infused brews, but I could drink this at any gathering. It is very sweet, certainly there is the flavor of pumpkin but it isn't overwhelming in any sense and it feels mush less cheap that the typical Sam Adams entry. It pours a good frothy head that dissipates relatively quickly. The aroma is pleasant. The mouthfeel is smooth and agreeable without an overriding sense of alcohol or sweetener. I drank at about room temperature and was only disappointed when the bottle was empty. The brew is flying off the shelves in the D.C. area and I haven't met anyone not thrilled with the product.

Serving type: bottle

12-27-2011 07:18:05 | More by andrewm190
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stimulus

New Jersey

3.88/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Release #4. 7.7%abv.

A: Pours a dark brown with ruby edges and a 1/2 finger beige head.
S: Lots of vanilla bean and a bit of cinnamon.
T: Similar to the taste, but other spices come out here, especially cloves. Some bitter chocolate is present on the finish to balance out the sweetness and spice from the adjuncts used in this beer.
M: Good carbonation, medium bodied, and no alcohol bite at all.
O: I think this is a good spiced winter porter, but could have used more flavor of the pumpkin. Otherwise, I think the brewery should go a little lighter on the vanilla bean, cinnamon, clove, and whatever else was used in this beer, if they would like to market it as a pumpkin porter.

Serving type: bottle

12-24-2011 19:03:23 | More by stimulus
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guild337

Virginia

4/5  rDev +4.4%

12-22-2011 03:14:01 | More by guild337
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Rhettroactive

District of Columbia

4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

From 22oz bomber to Bruges hybrid glass on 11/21/11
*From notes

A: Really? We're calling this a Porter? It looks more like a drab brown ale. A decent pour yields a loose two finger head. with minor, unspectacular lacing.

S: Pretty solid. Hints of all spice, toasted pumpkin seed and cinnamon.

T: A bit toasty and charry up front. The mid showcases all spice and a touch of cinammon. The pumpkin's there too, yet it's more of a kiss, which is actually quite nice. The finish comes off like a chocolately pumpkin cinnamon candy, sans the residual sugar. Quite a robust beer for a "pumpkin ale".

M: Really on point. Rich and voluptous in the mouth. Regardless of the flavors it's packing, this is one of the better mouthfeels for a porter I've come across of recent.

O: This one really surprised me. I was in no way expecting this to be as charming as it is. DC Brau & Epic have assembled one of the better pumpkin beers of 2011, and one I could actually stomach more then 5oz of. I hope this sees the shelves again next year. Well done, gents.

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2011 23:18:23 | More by Rhettroactive
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corby112

Pennsylvania

3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Release #1.

Pours a dark caramel brown color with mahogany edges and a frothy, two finger beige head. Excellent retention, only slowly fading into a lasting cap that coats the glass with chunks of soapy lacing.

Slightly smokey dark malt aroma with an earthy, vegetal presence balancing out the roasted quality. Hints of chocolate, oatmeal and coffee bean countered by autumnal spice and pumpkin.

Medium bodied with a blast of autumnal spices up front that lingers over the roasted malt and sweet pumpkin into a dry finish. Lots of clove, cinnamon and brown sugar followed by the toasted dark malt notes. Hints of coffee, toast and oatmeal along with some silky chocolate malt before finishing with pumpkin and some nutmeg.

Overall this was an interesting experiment that is somewhat successful. It still has the roasted dark malt qualities of a porter with a subtle pumpkin presence. The spices are what really give it a seasonal feel. They are a bit heavy for my liking, overpowering the other notes a bit but this is still a pretty solid beer.

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2011 07:27:36 | More by corby112
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claspada

New Jersey

3.65/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Release #4, 7.7%ABV

Pours a dark brown, almost black color, with a small tan head that recedes rather rapidly with moderate carbonation evident. Leaves a little bit of soapy, spotty lacing.

Aromas begin and immediately remind me of the Midnight Sun TREAT I had a couple months back which is a great start, though not as powerful. Starts with dry cocoa and the spices, then you get more roasted malts, chocolate and light baked pumpkin flesh. Light brown sugar notes emerge as it warms as well.

The tastes begin with much more dominant porter flavors; roasted malts and light baker's cocoa. On the back end you get a little of the spicing (mainly cinnamon) but really not much. Flavor falls short of the aroma's expectations.

The mouthfeel is medium to light bodied with medium to low carbonation. Finish is fairly dry, crisp, smooth and easy to drink.

Overall this was a pretty good beer, but fell short of my expectations. It's basically a good porter with very light hints of spice and pumpkin. The aromas got my hopes up thinking I found a Mid Sun TREAT replacement but the flavor profile fell miles short. Not bad, just not amazing. I wouldn't turn it down if someone gave it to me for free but I don't plan to revisit anytime soon.

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2011 00:20:20 | More by claspada
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psuKinger

Pennsylvania

4.22/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 ounce bomber, picked up at Vintage Estate as a recommendation from one of the staff, poured into one of my New Belgium Globes.

A: Pours a murky deep deep dark brown with a thin off-white head.

S: Roasted coffee grounds and a touch of pumpkin come through at a muted volume. I think this beer may be a shade too cold, hopefully it opens up a little as it warms.

T: Big bold flavors of coffee, pumpkin, and spice. What I like about this beer is that there's plenty of fantastic, rich, pumpkin flavor, and it's in no way overly-sweet. The roasty coffee flavors strike a harmonious chord with the pumpkin, and there's just a touch of cinnamon and perhaps some other spice on the back end to really give this beer a zing.

It finishes with just the appropriate amount of hops of the back end, which add a touch of dry bitterness and a touch of grapefruit that works well with the spice.

M: Carbonation bubbles are very "fine" here; no large bubbles. That "fizz" affect is still present, but I'd prefer just a touch more carbonation. Plenty of good roast/spice/hop flavors left behind on the finish, though.

D/O: I genuinely enjoyed this brew. It didn't seem like "novelty beer" to me, as most pumpkin's do. Repeatable.

Serving type: bottle

12-19-2011 12:28:43 | More by psuKinger
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nrbw23

Ohio

3.55/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A- Pours a really dark brown color if not black. Has a bit of an odd colored whiteish colored head not at all what I expected here. Head turns into a layer of bubbles and leaves a few spots of lacing.

S- Smells of roasted malts, pumpkin, spice, light chocolate and smoke.

T- Follows the nose pretty well. Taste is roasted malts, chocolate, pumpkin and spice. A good mixture of pumpkin, spice and roasted malts.

M- Lighter side of medium in body and carbonation was pretty nice.

O- Surprisingly impressed. Probably not something I would drink often but solid.

Serving type: bottle

12-19-2011 04:18:33 | More by nrbw23
Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 336 ratings.