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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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377 Ratings
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Ratings: 377
Reviews: 126
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 11.23%
Wants: 20
Gots: 34 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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Photo of tlazaroff
3.85/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Wonderful pumpkin aroma. I can pick out pumpkin predominantly, with nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon.

The beer looks dark brown to the naked eye, but highlights a deep ruby. The head is tan frothy layer that rests at about a quarter of a finger's height. Lacing is beyond generous.

Pumpkin is the first thing I get in the taste and it carries the beer through the finish. Other spices found in the aroma make appearances in the mid palate. The finish is a bit malty, like a nice toasted bread flavor, but the pumpkin still remains dominent.

Medium carbonation with a medium body. The finish is ever so slightly drying to the palate. It's a beer to enjoy, not a session beer, and I will treat it as such.

tlazaroff, Jul 07, 2012
Photo of AgentMunky
4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a brandy snifter. Release #2. Brewed on 3 October 2011. Bottled on 21 October 2011.

A: Mahogany brown, with a nut-brown creamy head. Good retention. Opaque and impressive. Scattered lace.

S: Excellent pumpkin and heavy spice. Yum. In fact the nutmeg, allspice, cinnamon, and clove (mostly nailed it, before looking it up!) might be a touch much, but I'm eating it up. Smells like canned pumpkin.

T/M: What? Great! Creamy, smooth, full-bodied, and with excellent balance between roasted, buttery-bitter malts and spiced-sweet pumpkin. Vanilla beans lend themselves to the creamy sweet side, whereas cacao beans lean to the darker, bitterer flavors. Complex and rewarding, the added spice isn't as obvious on the maintaste as the aftertaste, where it lingers.

O: A phenomenally interesting and excellent tasting pumpkin porter that has aged gracefully. In this incarnation, a must-try. Would drink again.

Notes
ABV: 7.9%
Hops: Nugget, Perle, Tettnang
Malts: Muntons Maris Otter, Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt, Muntons Crystal, Weyermann Munic Malt Type I (light), Briess 2-Row Chocolate Malt, Weyerman Carafa III
Spice: Pumpkin, Vanilla Bean, Allspice, Nutmeg, Cinnamon, Ginger, Cloves
Brewers' Commentary: "Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style."

AgentMunky, Jun 08, 2012
Photo of WVbeergeek
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A nice big glass of Pumpkin Porter, not really the season but damn it's interesting and a collaboration with DC Brau and Epic no less. Pours pitch black maybe light ruby highlights as it pours, dark tan head foaming thick. Aroma bright spice, big fleshy pumpkin gourds, with dark caramelized sugars coating the malts and vegetable additions. Beautiful beer I'm really enjoying the blend of flavors as it warms, fruity/gourd flesh...sugar coated dark roasts mix into a unique and wonderful beer along with light pumpkin spice enjoying every sip. Mouthfeel is a bit thin with even carbonation strong spices left behind between sips. Wonderful roasted malt pumpkin spice blended nicely with a moderate alcohol level, so interesting...I've never had anything else like this quite nice, something I will seek out again in the future.

WVbeergeek, May 27, 2012
Photo of im4beer
4/5  rDev +4.4%

im4beer, May 26, 2012
Photo of KalH
4.25/5  rDev +11%

KalH, Apr 27, 2012
Photo of zeledonia
4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Release 1, says the bottle. Bottled 17 October 2011, per their website.

Pours black, opaque, and dark chocolate brown at the edges. Two fingers of dense medium tan head. I can almost convince myself I see orange, but that's probably reading the label into the beer. Retention and lacing are okay, standard, you know. Except that as I drink it, the glass becomes more and more covered with gobs of foam. So maybe upgrade that lacing.

Smells rich, sweet, and pumpkiny. Smells like the roasted pumpkin puree I used to put into pies as a kid. There's beer behind it, but mostly I smell the pumpkin.

Taste is good - one of the better pumpkin beers that I've had. The porter behind it seems a little thin and light on the roast, present mostly as charry bitterness that comes on late. Pumpkin is present throughout, and it's good, pure, squashy, vegetabley pumpkin. Tasty.

Mouthfeel is, IMO, exceptional. Smooth, fluffy, and chewy without being fizzy or overly heavy. Has that creamy feel of an oatmeal stout. Simply lovely.

I really like this beer. It's got great pumpkin aroma and flavor, and the mouthfeel is exquisite. Main complaint is that the porter isn't more present (and since they bill it as an "imperial pumpkin porter", that's a problem).

zeledonia, Apr 25, 2012
Photo of wmrogers11
4.25/5  rDev +11%

wmrogers11, Apr 22, 2012
Photo of DrDemento456
4.15/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Picked up Batch 3 at Vintage Estate for a fair $6.99. Always wanted to try a pumpkin porter or stout!

A - Pretty dark with only a mild tint of brown as it poured and a 1/2 inch of sticky, pretty mocha colored head. Lacing is very nice.

S - I like how the pumpkin and spices lead in the smell, it's almost like a candied yam mixed with holiday cinnamon, camomile, and a touch of brown sugar. The porter aspect is in the finish where I can smell dry roasts and mild coffee's

T - Smooth, creamy, and damn balanced. What I enjoy most is how it's dry like a normal porter yet the edge is taken off a bit with the sweetness of the spice. Very mild overall pumpkin and even mild spices but it really just adds to the overall body making it an overall sweet porter. Tasty stuff.

M - Smooth, creamy, and crafted very well. Medium bodied tasty stuff.

Overall this is the first Epic Brewery beer I ever had and it lived up to everything the guys at Vintage Estate told me it would be. If they keep on brewing it I will have to pick up a second bottle eventually. Worth trying if you seek tasty, obscure beers.

DrDemento456, Apr 19, 2012
Photo of StonedTrippin
4.1/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

im a huge fan of pumpkin beers, so even out of season i was stoked to try this one. not sure ive had a pumpkin porter that wasnt made by a homebrewer before. pours a glowing ruby brown color quite dark but as much brown ale as porter in appearance. small tan head. smells quite sweet, chocolate, vanilla, candied yams. like thanksgiving dessert. flavor is complex as anything, fresh pumpkin takes over in the beginning and wanes to a chocolate coffee dark roasty malty finish. i really enjoy the flavor trip of this one, constantly changing. mouthfeel was nice, could use a bit more carbonation in my opinion to carry it forward, but its medium body make it plenty drinkable. maybe a little too sweet for me, but it works here. overall a fabulous pumpkin beer, i think the squashy flavors work very well in a dark fuller bodied brew. i hope to get my hands on more come autumn.

StonedTrippin, Apr 19, 2012
Photo of goblue3509
3.28/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours a dark brown color with a two finger khaki colored head which recedes to skim and leaves gobs of sticky lace on the glass. The aroma starts out with a chocolate and roasty character which then gives way to a vanilla and pumpkin. The aroma's seem to be fighting each other though and do not flow evenly into each other. The taste follows suit, with a the coffee and dark chocolate characters coming first along with a roasty backbone. The pumpkin then comes through at the middle and the back. Again it seems to be fighting itself just a little bit. The mouthfeel is moderately carbonated and sticky. Overall it was an okay beer, it seemed to get in the way of itself a little. The flavors were nice but it didn't seem to flow.

goblue3509, Apr 15, 2012
Photo of C20Percent
3.95/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Release #1

A: Dark black with a healthy, fluffy tan head. Healthy lace around the edges, which was probably retarded because I kept refilling my glass. But, it looked very appetizing.

S: In my opinion, the aroma was this beer's only real shortcoming. Not enough pumpkin -- might have been because it wasn't absolutely fresh. But, the beer smelled like a standard porter. Smoky, Roasty, Chocolaty. Nice but not great.

T: First taste impression wasn't great, but this beer really grew on me. For one thing, you can taste the pumpkin and spices, which is important since that's on the front of the bottle. As you continue to drink the spices really start to shine. At points, in the finish, it's almost like drinking a Pumpkin Ale. One thing that stands out about this beer is how drinkable it is. A very smooth Imperial beer -- not boozy at all.

M: Chewy caramel -- perfect carbonation. A medium-thick feel but not overwhelming. I thought the feel might have been the best feature of this beer. When I think of a Porter, this is what I expect the feel to be. Very nice.

O: A good offering from Epic Brewing / DC Brau. This was my first DC Brau, which is disappointing because I live right outside of DC, but their distribution is poor. At any rate, a nice Imperial Pumpkin Porter. Easy drinking brew. Would definitely drink again.

C20Percent, Apr 14, 2012
Photo of DerwinWentworth
4.25/5  rDev +11%

DerwinWentworth, Mar 27, 2012
Photo of beerthulhu
3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Release #4.

A: Corkboard tinted head is slight but shows a moderate rate of retention atop a standard issue black porter coloring. Generous lace coverage.

S: The aroma is sweet of chocolate and cocoa most noticeably. Pumpkin spiced coffee with ginger and cinnamon come through along with some vanilla and pie crust.

T: The flavor is pumpkin spicing of cinnamon and ginger once again, sweet coffee roast. Pumpkin, sweet toffee and milky chocolate support as well vanilla. The finish finds a light chalky fade of creamer powder on the close out.

M: Thick oily roast mouthful with a lively carbonation factor.

O: Overall a nice pumpkin influence and spicing with a decent imperial porter malt base. Worthy a try.

beerthulhu, Mar 19, 2012
Photo of Kegatron
3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle into a couple of tulip glasses.

Pours black with a ½ finger of light mocha head. This maintains some rich edges, with robust lacing that clings to the sides of the glass in sticky swathes. The aroma smells of green pumpkin, vanilla, spices, a bit of brown sugar, and some roasted coffee notes along the back. This is pleasant in the nose, with a nice mix of different characters at work here.

The taste is cocoa, roast, and ripe pumpkin flavor, with sweeter notes of vanilla and dark sugars working their way in as well. Earthy hops give this a green and raw feel at times and while not overly aggressive, it does linger a bit on the tongue along with a dry finish of spices and burnt malt. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a lively and sharp feel up front that then gets a bit smoother along the back. There is some alcohol present but it mostly adds fullness and intensity to the flavors without interfering with them in any way. This one is definitely more of a sipper.

This was solid, being an Imperial Porter with a nice range of flavors and enough of an ABV to help take the chill off a bit. This was a tasty sipper.

Kegatron, Mar 06, 2012
Photo of Gavage
3.13/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: pours a dark brown color with a 3" head that slowly falls to a thick surface foam. Thick lace paints the glass.

Smell: roasted malts and vanilla really come through to the nose.

Taste: roasted malts, vanilla, molasses, and a hint of chocolate arrives late. Bitterness is mild at best, and there is a hint of allspice. A bit sweet overall.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Lightly crisp throughout. Long lasting aftertaste as the flavors stick to the tongue.

Overall: a bit dissappointed with this as the vanilla beans really show through here without the woody tones a bourbon barrel beer may have. I really didn't taste any pumkin here as to me this was more of a vanilla porter.

Gavage, Mar 03, 2012
Photo of BMart
4/5  rDev +4.4%

BMart, Feb 20, 2012
Photo of Gueuzedude
3.63/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch #1; Sampled November 2011
A solid pour into my Lost Abbey Teku glass produces a three-finger thick, light tan colored head that leaves some light lacing on the sides of the glass as it slowly subsides. The beer is a concentrated brown color with suggestions of black to it; when held up to the light it shows a brilliantly clear, deep, concentrated ruby and plum color. The nose smells of brown toasted bread and an initial tartness that seems sort of pumpkin like; this last is surprising as I wasn’t expecting to notice any actual pumpkin in this beer. My second sniff has me noticing sweet spice notes of cinnamon and cardamom, some sweet clove and maybe some of the tartness is actually accentuated by a light ginger note. Ah, the sweetness is really accentuated by a smooth vanilla note that I am mistaking for an actual sweetness.

The beer is lightly sweet, even somewhat light bodied on the palate. It finishes with a roasted bitterness that is a bit like cold black coffee as well as a lingering spiciness and hint of tartness that also lingers on for quite some time in the finish. The spiciness contributes notes of nutmeg, cardamom, perhaps a touch of allspice, clove and a definite vanilla note. The body has a light prickliness to it from the carbonation and it does have a viscous texture to it up front, it finishes light though as the combination of roast, bitterness and spiciness lightens up the effect of this beer pretty quickly. The beer is certainly a bit colder than I would perhaps prefer right now, but that is easily remedied. This has a prominent astringency / bitterness to it, though I am not sure what all contributes to this; certainly roast malt and perhaps some hop bitterness does, but there seems to be more to it somehow. As the beer warms up the spices open up a bit more with the cardamom, a touch of ginger, some smooth clove notes and perhaps some of the sharpness comes from some peppercorn notes in the finish.

Interestingly enough, this beer does actually have some real pumpkin noticeable in both the aroma and flavor; it is light, but certainly adds some tartness and a bit of a squash / vegetal note to this beer. The spice character here is actually somewhat restrained compared to most pumpkin beers and it actually works pretty well. I am surprised that I am not getting an anise aroma or flavor from this beer though as that seems to be one of the more noticeable notes in beers that have had Five-Spice added to them; though perhaps this blend of Five-Spice is different. An interesting go at a Pumpkin Porter; it could really use a touch more body and rounded malt flavor to balance out the spiciness and the roast bitterness that can be a touch distracting in this beer.

Gueuzedude, Feb 18, 2012
Photo of JohnnyMc
4.23/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

So far, this might be my favorite from Epic. The aroma has nice chocolate and coffee notes with some subtle spice. The flavor is a perfect blend of a traditional pumpkin spice beer combined with a great porter.

From the first sip pumpkin hits you, but then fades to chocolate and keeps you coming back for more. A great, great beer especially for the colder months.

JohnnyMc, Feb 16, 2012
Photo of MBrausen
2.95/5  rDev -23%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Reviewed from notes.

A. Pours a dark brown orange, 1 finger thick head, great lacing and rests at a 1mm head

S. Mild to no smell, pumpkin and a hint of light chocolate.

T. Tastes of sweet pumpkin,lots of orange and a hint of spices, but not too much.

M. Medium body, high carbonation, mildly chewy and coarse.

O. A pretty decent beer, but could use a more over the top pumpkin flavor. It was very blended and more simple than what you normally get from Epic.

MBrausen, Feb 01, 2012
Photo of samie85
3.18/5  rDev -17%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A-Pours a pitch black color with a few fingers of brown head.

S-Smells of cinnamon and other pumpkin pie spices with some slight vanilla and roasted notes.

T-Roasted malt notes with a myriad of spice notes and some vanilla.

M-Slick and mouth-coating with medium body with moderate carbonation.

D-I like this more than most pumpkin beers as I feel that a richer base beer really works in a spiced beer's favor. However, I think I prefer Summit's take on a Pumpkin Porter to this incarnation.

samie85, Jan 31, 2012
Photo of abraxel
3.15/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Tasted blind as part of Blind BIF 6, courtesy of mdfb79. Poured into a snifter.

A - The stream looked like a light reddish brown, but is quite a bit darker in the glass. There's a little bit of off-white head, but it diminishes quickly (which helped it all fit into the snifter).

S - Christmas spicy, some cinnamon, clove, and nutmeg. Slightly sweet malt in the background. Not bad, but not great.

T - My out-loud reaction to the first sip: "...hmmm..." This seems like a christmas ale, with those same spices I picked up in the aroma, but there's also an odd sweetness that I'm having trouble describing (it reminds me of fake orange flavor) and which isn't very appealing.

M - Medium body, not bad. A little prickle of carbonation, a touch of alcohol in the back of my throat.

Overall, I could take it or leave it. This was an interesting blind beer, but I can't say I'd seek out more.

abraxel, Jan 25, 2012
Photo of ChadC12
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

ChadC12, Jan 20, 2012
Photo of Brenden
3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Release # 4.

This beer is dark brown with a big, rocky medium-brown head that's creamy and frothy yet very dense. Big, sticky lacing is left in pretty heavy deposits on the glass.
The aroma is light but not lacking. It's a good aroma diplaying great balance between the pumpkin and the spices without going too far or stopping too short on either. Spices seem to include the typical nutmeg and cinnamon with something a little leafier and gentler as well as something gently hot but not peppery.
The taste follows suit. It's a very nice, well-balanced and potent flavor, even adding a bit of hoppiness, until a strange thing happens: within just a short time, the pumpkin and spices fade out and I find I'm just drinking a regular porter. I like porters, and it's a good one, but this is not supposed to happen.
The mouthfeel is good, an appropriate medium body with moderate carbonation setting the stage for a fairly thick and creamy brew.

Brenden, Jan 16, 2012
Photo of TheBoozeTraveler
4.5/5  rDev +17.5%

TheBoozeTraveler, Jan 12, 2012
Photo of csiewert
4/5  rDev +4.4%

csiewert, Jan 11, 2012
Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 377 ratings.