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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
86
very good

422 Ratings
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Ratings: 422
Reviews: 131
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 11.2%
Wants: 21
Gots: 46 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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Photo of jsanto
4.33/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

relese #7, had in a three philosophers little glass.

appearance: brown, nice light brown head,

smell: vanella, and a little cocoa

taste: light alcohol, cocoa wood, not bad for a porter, and a finish of sweet soda pop.funny huh.

mouthfeel: tangy but tasteful, i lika dat mouthfeel a lot.

overall: one of the better pumkins i have had, would buy again next year, and enjoy the epic fermentation eithout representation series of beers throughout the year.

jsanto, Oct 27, 2012
Photo of MarkyMOD
4/5  rDev +4.2%

MarkyMOD, Oct 26, 2012
Photo of ROBSTARR
5/5  rDev +30.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This has to be the best if not a close second best pumpkin beer I've ever had. It poured dark brown with light head into a snifter. The smell is of cocoa, pumpkin, cinnamon, nutmeg and peanut butter. The taste of this beer I only can describe as a peanut butter cup made with pumpkin spice. This beer goes down extremely smooth and creamy. Overall I loved this beer, of course I love peanut butter cups and pumpkin spice stuff. So if you like both those things just imagine them combined.

ROBSTARR, Oct 25, 2012
Photo of ThaApricot
4.25/5  rDev +10.7%

ThaApricot, Oct 24, 2012
Photo of jamesDaExMoBeerGuy
3.88/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a pilsner glass, dark roasted amber color with just a bit of head but persistent lacing.

Smell was a bit underwhelming, expected more character here, just a bit of toasted malt and grain and nothing given away to the squash itself.

Taste is malty, subtle peppery but PUMPKIN comes through rich and well balanced with hop. Feels a bit thin in the middle, but left with a wonderful pumpkin aftertaste.

Finishes well, aside from a bit thin mid-mouth taste this beer just hit me right on a fall night with a real chill in the brisk wind. Seemed just about perfect for the occasion and the best pumpkin styled porter I have had.

jamesDaExMoBeerGuy, Oct 24, 2012
Photo of jjanega08
4.2/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Release #8
7.7% ALC./VOL.

A= Pours a nice deep brown color with dark ruby highlights as well as a little half fnger of head on top with little lacing and retention.

S= Smells interesting. You don't see many pumpkin porters but this has a nice mix of roast as well as a nice spice aroma to it. A nice pumpkin aroma to it and a little bit of a plain squashy aroma.

T= The taste is again a great mix of porter roast to it as well as a nice spice to it. The pumpkin flavor is outragously great. This is easily the most squashy pumpkiny beer I've had so far as far as flavor goes. There is a nice flavor to this.

M= The mouth is silky smooth. A little more carbonation might be nice.

O= This is a great beer. Super nice pumpkin flavor to it and a great overall beer. This is the second great Epic beer I've had in as many days. They are winning me back.

jjanega08, Oct 24, 2012
Photo of imperialking
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

imperialking, Oct 22, 2012
Photo of bcostner1
3.03/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottle Release #5

A: Pretty typical porter. Dark brown with some dark ruby red highlights. Nice khaki head that lingers for a while.

S: Underwhelming. Heavy on the clove. Some faint chocolate in there. Really no other spices detectable other than the clove.

T: Again, very heavy on the clove in the taste...too heavy. Minimal cinnamon present. Some definite chocolate and fleshy pumpkin present. Personally, I was hoping for a more well balanced/well represented array of spices (some cinnamon, nutmeg and allspice for example). Way too clove heavy for me. Sweetness/bitterness balance isn't bad overall though. Chocolate becomes more pronounced as it warms up a bit but still not nearly enough.

M: Pretty easy drinker. Not boozy at all. Decent body; not thin. Satisfying.

Overall, I would say that this is a very average (at best) pumpkin porter. I am not a huge fan of "clove forward" pumpkin ales and this one is definitely clove dominated. Wish there were a better representation of other spices and a heavier chocolate element personally. I actually ended up drinking about 2/3 of the bomber and pouring the rest of it out. Something about it just got very off-putting to me after a while. Too bad...I was looking forward to this one.

bcostner1, Oct 22, 2012
Photo of metter98
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear but very dark amber (near black) in color. It poured with a finger high tan head that died down, leaving lacing on the surface and a thin collar around the edge of the glass.
S: There are aromas of pumpkins in the nose.
T: The taste is much more complex than the smell, having flavors of chocolate and roasted malts along with pumpkins and notes of vanilla beans. This transitions to spicy flavors that linger through the finish—among these ginger stands out in particular.
M: It feels a bit shy of medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This is an interesting beer to have during the autumn. It's relatively easy to drink, except that I wasn't really a big fan of the ginger and think all of the flavors blended really well together except for it.

Note: Release #7

metter98, Oct 21, 2012
Photo of ShemRahBoo
4.25/5  rDev +10.7%

ShemRahBoo, Oct 21, 2012
Photo of dbrauneis
3.85/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Release #7

A: Pours an opaque but clear very dark amber (almost black) in color with dark brown highlights when held up to the light and light amounts of visible carbonation near the surface of the beer. The beer has a finger tall light tan head that quickly reduces to a medium sized patch of large bubbles, a thin film covering the majority the surface of the beer, and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate to significant amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Light to moderate aromas of roasted malts, chocolate, pumpkin, and vanilla. This is followed by much lighter notes of spices - nutmeg, cinnamon, allspice, and ginger.

T: Moderate flavors of roasted malts and chocolate upfront, followed by the flavor of the pumpkin and the vanilla. There are spicy notes in the finish with nutmeg, cinnamon, and ginger standing out.

M: Just shy of medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Slightly thin with a bit of dryness in the finish.

O: A very interesting take on a pumpkin beer, the pumpkin and pumpkin pie spices really add to the depth of flavor of the porter. Enjoyable and pretty easy to drink - the alcohol is well hidden.

dbrauneis, Oct 20, 2012
Photo of Gehrig13
4/5  rDev +4.2%

Gehrig13, Oct 20, 2012
Photo of muchloveforhops3
4.25/5  rDev +10.7%

muchloveforhops3, Oct 19, 2012
Photo of Supergenious
4/5  rDev +4.2%

Supergenious, Oct 19, 2012
Photo of CoolGuy42
4.75/5  rDev +23.7%

CoolGuy42, Oct 17, 2012
Photo of warnerry
4/5  rDev +4.2%

warnerry, Oct 16, 2012
Photo of murraymj
3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

murraymj, Oct 14, 2012
Photo of FosterJM
3.93/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1564th Review on BA
Bottle to Snifter
22oz

Batch #6 (I can't really tell, but looks more like a 6)
Purchased at Total Wine, Brea, CA

App-Its a very nice dark brown pour with a bit of a red tinge behind it. That caught me off guard. A nice 2 finger head with a bit of a whipped egg look. A great amount of cling down the sides. A good density behind the beer as well. Really nice looking.

Smell- First wave wasnt all that impressive. The spices were a bit small and didnt really awaken any good aromatics for me. The 2nd pour brought out more of the pumpkin and that vanilla aroma I was looking for. A little tinge of bitter as well from the hops.

Taste- Its a nice porter blended with some nice flavors. The pumpkin additions added a nice depth of flavor and then the spices tied together nicely. Mostly the nutmeg comes through with a touch of clove but I couldve been thinking that was a hop note. A small amount of chocolate comes on the finish.

Mouth- A solid medium body with a medium creamy carbonation. The residual flavors are of a bit vegetal pumpkin with a bit of that vanilla and a little bit of a cocoa powder and nutmeg mixture.

Drink- I was sitting watching the 1st episode of the new season of the League with this beer and it was really tasty. Had a good amount of flavor and was a nice beer to sip on really.

FosterJM, Oct 13, 2012
Photo of IMSPEAKNOENGLISH
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

IMSPEAKNOENGLISH, Oct 13, 2012
Photo of iL0VEbeer
4.5/5  rDev +17.2%

iL0VEbeer, Oct 13, 2012
Photo of benjaminahudson
4.5/5  rDev +17.2%

benjaminahudson, Oct 13, 2012
Photo of beer2day
4.18/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From Bottle Rev in Raleigh ...

Dark brown pour with light orange tint. 1+ finger of dark cream head. Not much retention. Thin strands of lace all around the glass, even at the end.

Nose is a lot of nutmeg, pumpkin pie spice, chocolate malt, and pumpkin muffin. Lighter than I expected, but a nice mix of spice and chocolate.

Less spice in the taste than in the nose with more moderate pumpkin and nutmeg. Chocolate malt comes out stronger and balances well against the spice. Spice creeps back in the finish and lingers for a bit.

Feel is actually a bit thin for me. Wish there was a bit more body here.

Overall, a nice pumpkin porter.

beer2day, Oct 13, 2012
Photo of cofeeguru
2.25/5  rDev -41.4%

cofeeguru, Oct 10, 2012
Photo of rbrefbeerman
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

rbrefbeerman, Oct 10, 2012
Photo of DaGrizz
2.5/5  rDev -34.9%

DaGrizz, Oct 10, 2012
Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 422 ratings.