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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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86
very good

350 Ratings
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Ratings: 350
Reviews: 122
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 11.23%
Wants: 20
Gots: 27 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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Travisnin

Idaho

3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

11-26-2011 06:55:40 | More by Travisnin
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rlettre

Maryland

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-25-2011 01:49:41 | More by rlettre
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CuriousMonk

Virginia

3.15/5  rDev -17.8%

Poured from bomber into tulip glass. Pours deeply ruby brown beer with light thin off-white head. Aroma of fresh cut squash, followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow, vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and dark chocolate bitter dryness. Medium to full bodied. Did not pick up very much pumpkin on this one though I did recognize some of Epic's and DC Brau's typical traits from their flagship brews. Quite disappointed with this interesting offering.

11-22-2011 22:32:32 | More by CuriousMonk
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fo5s

District of Columbia

3.13/5  rDev -18.3%

22oz bottle served into portsmouth tulip. Split with Chris during the Patriots / Chiefs game. Release #1 clearly printed on the bottle - per the website brewed 10/2/11, bottled 10/17/11.

A- pours a very deep brown, with a small, light brown head. Minimal lacing.

S- smells of dry pumpkin over a hefty porter base. Hint of chocolate.

T- malt forward with a solid backbone of smooth pumpkin. Finish is bakers chocolate. I'm struggling to pick up the 5 spices supposedly in the recipe. Lacks the roasty malts I'd look for in a porter.

M- body is very thin for an imperial porter...seems closer to a big scotch.

O- overall a decent brew, but didn't meet my expectation for an imperial pumpkin porter. I was hoping for more body and more spices.

11-22-2011 02:32:19 | More by fo5s
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Bierguy5

Ohio

3.95/5  rDev +3.1%

22 oz bottle, 7.5% abv. Batch #3. Very deep brown, bordering on black. Mocha head looks good, and remains in a thin layer for quite a while.

Some roasty malt, with milk chocolate notes up front. A raw, vegetable-like pumpkin feel next. Very faint hint of pumpkin pie spices.

Nice roasty feel up front, with some lingering sweetness. Pumpkin pie spices come in soft compared to other pumpkin beers. Slight raw pumpkin feel, but none of the bitterness. Dries out a bit at the finish.

Medium body, lighter carbonation leading to a nice creamy feel. A bit of warmth, but really seems to fit in well. Nice beer.

11-21-2011 01:13:15 | More by Bierguy5
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GreenPea

Ohio

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-20-2011 00:27:55 | More by GreenPea
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DoctorB2B

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-19-2011 05:44:40 | More by DoctorB2B
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shufon

New York

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-19-2011 04:56:18 | More by shufon
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pzrhsau

District of Columbia

4.03/5  rDev +5.2%

A: Nice deep brown color with ruby hues. It also has a rich tan head.
S: Rich and sweet combination of rich fleshy pumpkin, cinnamon and chocolate.
T: This beer has a nice rich burnt bitter chocolate flavor with a slight pumpkin spice flavor. It is mixed with a nice blend of cinnamon and all spice.
M/O: Very rich and drinkable beer. Good blend of flavor with some good carbonation and not overpowering alcohol.

11-19-2011 04:08:28 | More by pzrhsau
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mdfb79

New York

3.68/5  rDev -3.9%

Picked up a bomber of this art the Whole Foods in Clarendon, VA a few days ago. Poured from a 22 oz. bottle into my DFH glass.

a - Pours a dark brown, almost black color, with
one finger of light tan head and moderate carbonation evident. Looks pretty good.

s - Smells of roasted malts, light spices, chocolate, and light pumpkin, though not much. Ton of roasted porter notes here.

t - Tastes of roasted malts, chocolate, light spices, light pumpkin, and light cinnamon. Again, roasted malts and chocolate dominate here.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. Pretty smooth and easy to drink.

o - Overall a pretty good beer. Basically a good porter with very light hints of spice and pumpkin. Not a lot of pumpkin so it that is what you're looking for, just go with a normal pumpkin ale, but if you like porters, worth checking out.

11-19-2011 01:01:14 | More by mdfb79
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malloyca

District of Columbia

3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

Pours an opaque deep brown to black color. Some faint pumpkin and spice aromas, but these are not as dominant as in many other pumpkin beers and give way to roasted malt aromas. On the palate, the pumpkin flavors are very restrained, I'd say they take a back seat to more typical roasted malt flavors of a porter, with some stout-like bitterness. A very drinkable and not overpowering pumpkin ale.

11-18-2011 19:52:38 | More by malloyca
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rootbeerman

Virginia

3.83/5  rDev 0%

A: pours black with a thin cream and coffee colored head.
S: light pumpkin with some coffee and chocolate.
T: a mix upfront of pumpkin and coffee, followed by some pumpkin spice, and chocolate.
M: lightly thick, lingers around on the palate.
O: epic brewing continues to impress my taste buds.

11-18-2011 10:37:24 | More by rootbeerman
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drabmuh

Maryland

3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

I liked the DC Brau version slightly better. Served in a DC Brau pint glass because I don't have an Epic beer glass, get off my back.

Beer is dark brown and clear with a tan head with low retention, no lacing, low carbonation.

Aroma is sweet and spicy with only a hint of pumpkin.

Beer is not as pumpkiny as one might like, medium bodied, interesting but boring at the same time, mostly allspice coming through, it was fine but the Brau version was better.

11-18-2011 04:33:25 | More by drabmuh
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mrsdrabmuh

Maryland

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-18-2011 03:18:46 | More by mrsdrabmuh
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djre4orm

Virginia

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-17-2011 19:50:12 | More by djre4orm
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Thorpe429

Illinois

3.55/5  rDev -7.3%

Bottle picked up from Rick's in Alexandria. Served in a Three Floyds / Intelligentsia mini-snifter.

Pours a nearly-black deep brown color with a thin light tan head and not much in the way of lacing. Thin tan collar as it goes down. The nose carries some light pumpkin spice and plenty of porter character. Fairly roasty with a bit of chocolate. Faint spice. Flavor has chocolate and a fair amount of roast. Medium body with light carbonation and a nice full mouthfeel. Not over the top in any direction. Well done.

11-17-2011 02:17:36 | More by Thorpe429
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horrorspecialty

Virginia

4/5  rDev +4.4%

11-16-2011 21:23:40 | More by horrorspecialty
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Chaney

District of Columbia

4.18/5  rDev +9.1%

Release #1: Brewed on: October 2, 2011. Packaged on: October 17, 2011.

I poured this into my DuClaw Colossus snifter because Huzuhbendah still has my Cigar City one. Boo!!!

A: Poured a pitch black, with a soft, web-like mocha head that settled down into a small pile of sawdust. Porterific appearance!

S: I was really taken aback by the weirdness of the pumpkin spice mix in this setting and with Epic's/DC Brau's malt profile. Sort of a chocolate-squash compound with added vanilla beans, pumpkin pie spices (cloves, cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice, etc), and slight bit of stomach acid.

T: I actually got more gourd and bitter chocolate than actual pumpkin spices. I would call this more of a vegetable-chocolate creation... something akin to zucchini bread rather than pumpkin pie. I got squash/pumpkin and a mere dash of the spice on the front and mid part of this, followed by a nice bitter coffee-raw cacao wallop on the finish.

M: This was remarkable well-tempered in terms of its use of spicy and sweet elements, and definitely had a "homemade" feel to it. Thick, but far from syrupy. Chocolately, but far from candy-like... and the carbonation was slight, and played second fiddle to everything else, just like I like it.

O: I think a lot of the negative reviews have been as a result of unfulfilled expectations. If you're looking for a decadent dessert beer, look elsewhere. This is not "T.R.E.A.T," nor does it claim to be. This is "S.Q.U.A.S.H.O.L.A.T.E!"

Bravo Epic and DC Brau... you should be very proud of this one.

11-15-2011 07:35:16 | More by Chaney
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Rukasu

District of Columbia

3.18/5  rDev -17%

The DC Brau edition is better. Period.

Tried the DC Brau version last week on tap, and really enjoyed it, so I stocked up on Epic's bottled version (Whole Foods Fair Lakes).

Epic's version has a great scent, faint spices, with a slight smokiness.

Appearance is on par with DC Brau's, but the taste is a little off.

It's definitely much more bitter, with an almost a lemon pucker factor. The alcohol content also seems to add a bit more 'warmth' than the DC Brau version, which isn't entirely a negative.

Otherwise it's fairly similar and am overall pleased with it, I just think DC Brau might have the edge here.

11-14-2011 01:45:38 | More by Rukasu
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7ate9

Virginia

2.33/5  rDev -39.2%

Pours nice and black with an attractive small-bead foam tan head. The sniff is not attractive, what little of it there is. Even after warming there is barely a thing to snuff on. Mild roast, slight veggie pumkin-squashiness, but most prominent is a metallic taste. I can only smell spices if I try to imagine it really hard with my brain parts. Taste follows pretty closely to the smell. A metallic twang on the finish really makes it hard to swallow. A bit light on body but the carbonation helps lend a nice fluffy full feeling. It's just not there.

11-13-2011 20:56:18 | More by 7ate9
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Daniellobo

District of Columbia

4.03/5  rDev +5.2%

Pretty nice pumpkin porter, well rounded and a worthy collaboration.

Presentation: 22 oz brown capped bottle. Paper label with a simple light cream and soft orange range, with name of the brew and series/collaboration branding. I'm getting used to these labels and this is not one of the worst, still it feels a bit generic and trite design-wise (A bit of a pity to miss the opportunity to gain more visibility with the neat name of the brew). Side narrative offers a small note about the special and limited character of the brew. Notes release #2, and 7.9 % Alc. by Vol. Served in a tulip glass.

A - Black pour with deep brown edges, rich frothy head with nice retention and strong surface memory alongside pretty lacing. Quite a looker...

S - Pumpkin range, touch of spice and an emerging sense of roasted malts….

T - Nice roasted pumpkin sense, overall rich malty range with touches of chocolate and coffee under the flow of the pumpkin and spice. Small bitter spiced intensity in the finish, which is a bit unbalanced but nothing off-putting… Soft vanilla memory lingering in the aftertaste.

M - Medium body with medium/moderate carbonation. Pretty smooth flow with a nice lingering aftertaste.

O - Pretty nice brew, pleasing and well worth the try.

Notes: Glad to see a collaboration that tries something a touch unusual, and involving one of the best upcoming breweries in the region. EPIC on the other half of the equation is a nice surprise, this combo is among the best stuff I've tried from them.

11-13-2011 03:08:18 | More by Daniellobo
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loren01

Oregon

3.43/5  rDev -10.4%

A: Pours into snifter a black color, small sized tan head with no lacing.
S: Smells much like a porter would. Roasted grains, chocolate and a little bit of spices and pumpkin
T: Lots of roasted malts, chocolate, coffee followed by a little pumpkin and pumkin spice flavor
M: Medium bodied, seems a little under carbonated and flat
O: This is an interesting beer, I think its the 1st pumpkin beer ive had thats been a dark beer. I kinda like the balance between the roasted malts and pumpkin.

11-12-2011 20:33:21 | More by loren01
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billab914

Virginia

3.83/5  rDev 0%

22oz bottle poured into my Dogfish glass. It poured black in color with a thick, foamy tan head to it. Very good head retention and lacing as I drank it.

The aroma shows some pumpkin pie spices to it, but it's milder and smoother then most pumpkin spiced beers. I also get some raw pumpkin mixing with some chocolaty, cocoa like flavors. I liked that the spices were a little more reserved.

In the taste I get a little more of the porter character coming out. I get a little more chocolate to it with a moderate roasty, slight coffee like flavors. The pumpkin and spices come in more on the back end. Again the spices are pretty mild and I get more of a raw pumpkin, squash like flavor.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied and carbonation is moderate. Overall I thought it was a pretty good beer. I really liked that the spices were a little more reserved in it and some actual pumpkin seemed to come out. There are tons of spice bombs out there so it was a little refreshing for me that this was a little different. The porter characteristics were nice as well and the flavors worked pretty well together. Overall a pretty nice beer of the style.

11-12-2011 00:06:54 | More by billab914
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siege06nd

Virginia

3.7/5  rDev -3.4%

Alright, man I'm excited to try this one, a collaboration between Epic and one of my very favorite breweries, DC Brau. Poured into my Guinness British pint glass....

A: This thing is black. Pitch black. If I didn't know any better, I'd say I was having a stout. Four fingers of mocha colored head explode upon pouring, and slowly fade to a light tan color, but only recede to two fingers. The head on this is extremely thick and very bubbly: bonus points.

S: Lots of raw pumpkin, allspice, cinnamon and clove. Giving it a hard swirl allows some of the sweet chocolate and the lightest of roasted coffee bean aromas to escape. This is a very pumpkin forward beer, but the porter characteristics begin to come out more as it warms and as you swirl it. One of the few pumpkin beers where I actually get more raw pumpkin than I do pumpkin spice. Very well done.

T: Smooth, creamy chocolate on the front with raw pumpkin and some pumpkin pie spices on the mid. Hmmmm. If the nose was pumpkin forward, the taste is very porter forward. A little creamier than I expected. Chocolate is the dominant flavor, followed by pie spices and coffee roast. A little too much porter and not enough pumpkin for my taste. Not bad, but a little disappointed.

M: Curiously flat feel to this. It's extremely thick and chewy and reminds me quite a bit of Guinness. But it seems under-carbonated. The balance also seems off, as the chocolate and coffee from the porter really kind of overwhelm the pumpkin. I'm having a hard time discerning the two.

O: In all fairness, I've never had a Pumpkin Porter before. That being said, I was disappointed by this one. Maybe I just don't like the style, but I felt that the pumpkin/porter flavors could have been integrated better, as the porter side of this beer dominates the pumpkin. The smell gave me a lot of promise, but ultimately, the taste didn't live up to it. Also think the carbonation on this needs to be ratcheted up a touch. This one is slightly flat, sticky sweet, and really heavy. A decent brew and worth checking out, but I don't see myself revisiting this.

11-10-2011 21:09:27 | More by siege06nd
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JohnGalt1

Idaho

3.8/5  rDev -0.8%

Epic Collaboration with DC Brau.

From Epic's website:

"Brewed on: October 10, 2011. Packaged on: October 25, 2011.

Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style."

Poured into my new Cigar City snifter... pretty decent dark tan head... nice retention and lacing... the brew is deep dark brown that shows garnet highlights on the stem end of my glass.

Nose is a pretty good porter ... dry cocoa and then the spices come out swinging... clove.. ginger... nutmeg and cinnamon...

Flavor mirrors the nose with a sweet spice up front that gives way midpalate to a dry roasty malt and bittersweet chocolate... finish lingers with ginger and nutmeg.

Body is a solid medium with good small bubble carbonation.

I normally don't really appreciate beers with spices, but this one shows a judicious hand... nicely done, but finishing the bomber is going to be a chore for me.

4/3.5/4/4/3.5

11-06-2011 04:11:32 | More by JohnGalt1
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Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 350 ratings.