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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
86
very good

473 Ratings
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Ratings: 473
Reviews: 139
rAvg: 3.81
pDev: 11.81%
Wants: 20
Gots: 53 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.

(Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011)
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Photo of Sammy
3.6/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Brown coloured body with little head. Just spice, perhaps a touch of pumpkin in the finish. Roasted coffee taste. Decent drinkability. Spiced out, pumpkined out. SOme chocolate malt, even more would be interesting but too odd for the style.
And the spices could have been betterMediumm mouthfeel. Liam's bottle.

Photo of t420o
4.4/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Epic/DC Brau Fermentation Without Representation

A- pour produces a 1 finger tan head resting on a deep brown body. Head recedes somewhat quick leaving little in the way of lacing 3.5 

S- fresh pumpkin, pumpkin spice, chocolate malt, mollases. The pumpkin and spice is most prevalent but in a fresh way, not a fake or overly sweet way. Smells excellent 4.5

T- I really like this beer a lot. Pumpkin, pumpkin spice, chocolate, caramalized brown sugar, roasted malt, vanilla and slightly dry on the back end. I really like that it retains the porter character but is still a pumpin beer first and foremost. Excellent beer. 4.5 

M- nice silky mouthfeel. On the lighter side carbonation-wise 4

O- excellent. I'm going back to buy more immediately. I really like pumpkin beers and this is very close to the top of my list for pumpkin beers. 4.5

A

Photo of st9647v3
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of Chugs13
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of justintcoons
3.08/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Release #7, 7.7%
Poured into a pilsner glass. Why? because it was clean.

Appearance
Extremely dark brown with some red highlights. 1 finger of tan head that dissipates quickly. Looks pretty yeasty but it's hard to tell with the color. Weak lacing.

Nose
Roasted barley, pumpkin meat, chocolate and cinnamon.

Taste
Sweet pumpkin meatiness as well as a good dose of roasted barley. Coffee grounds and chocolate milk. A touch of cinnamon spice, nutmeg and earthy char on the end.

Mouthfeel
Medium-full bodied, smooth and creamy.

Overall
A decent beer in its own right, but Pumpkin Ales with Porter/Stout bases have never really done it for me. Pretty easy drinking at 7.7%. The alcohol is well hidden.

Photo of NilocRellim
4/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured cold from the bottle. This beer had a very dark brown/orange colour with minimal head. There smell is that of a subtle pumpkin pie: pumpkin, cinnamon, nutmeg, and spices. The smell was not as strong as many of the other pumpkin beers. The taste is similar to the smell as a subtle, but not overwhelming, pumpkin flavour hits right away. It then moves to a bitter/smokey aftertaste.

Would I buy it again? Yes.

Photo of hickmancase
4.5/5  rDev +18.1%

Photo of Onenote81
3.93/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Opened this bottle with a friend on Thanksgiving. Poured into a pint glass. Pours a dark brown with a small beige head. The aroma is pumpkin, bread, vanilla, and fresh cookies. Moderate carbonation bolsters this beer, but there's some slickness to it that detracts from it a bit. Finishes with a little snap of bubbles. Good flavor profile with obvious pumpkin, though it's not as bold as some in the style. It melds well with vanilla sweetness, milk chocolate, light coffee. Well-rounded flavors that aren't pronounced in any one area. A pleasant bounty of holiday flavors. A good pumpkin beer, that isn't a one-trick pony. A nice Thanksgiving treat.

Photo of TMoney2591
3.9/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a tumbler.

Thanks to my man Ryan for sharing this bottle!

Bitch, bitch, bitch, DC... Anyway, this stuff pours a clear tawny-orange topped by finger of khaki foam. The nose comprises mild roasted malts, light vanilla bean, light coffee, brown sugar, watered-down molasses, and a touch of dark greens. The taste brings in more of the same, with the spices coalescing into the roast, creating a full, rounded, thoroughly "dark" flavor combination. In the background lurks a bit of what seems like pumpkin seeds (never tell me there could be pumpkin involved...). The body is a limber medium, with a light moderate carbonation and a sorta/kinda drying finish. Overall, a very nice pumpkin porter, one that finds a way to not only not overdo it on the spices, but to have them actually augment the otherwise mild roastiness. Good times.

Photo of Teleweizen2
3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - pours a deep chocolate brown. Two fingers worth of tan foam leave some spotty lacing on the glass.

S - strong aromas of chocolate syrup waft from the glass. Pumpkin pie spices are bright as well. Notes of cinnamon, clove and allspice. A quick wiff of herbal hops elicits a vegetal stem sort of character.

T - sweet malt flavor up front. Mostly chocolate syrup. Spicy flavors build mid palate. Strong cinnamon flavor as well as a peppery note.

M - smooth creamy mouthfeel. Medium bodied with medium high carbonation.

O - Sort of reminds me of Hershey's chocolate milk spiked with spices. Which gives me other ideas obviously. Nice porter.

Photo of oriolesfan4
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%

Photo of duceswild
3.75/5  rDev -1.6%

Photo of johnnyboy76
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of gpawned
4.75/5  rDev +24.7%

Photo of Gregfalone
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on tap in a tulip glass at congregation ale house in Azusa California

Pours dark amber brown with some light showing through with one finger head that holds well, leaving a nice pattern behind as it goes down

Smells of baked pumpkin, with molasses and spices (mainly ginger)

Tastes like a fresh baked pumpkin pie, with cinnamon, brown sugar and all the other great spices that make a good pumpkin pie.

Mouthfeel is medium, with matching carbonation an a not so dry finish

Overall, this is a very good porter, I would drink again

Photo of Mister_Joshy
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of boonejag75
4/5  rDev +5%

Photo of RockyTopHeel
4.13/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle hand-stamped "Release #8, 7.7% ALC./VOL."

Cola-colored with a frothy beige head. Aroma of spice and roasted malts. Balanced, with hints of spice and pumpkin but also more traditional, roasted porter flavors. Vanilla, nutmeg, allspice, cinnamon, ginger and cloves according to the website, and I think I can pick up most of those (definitely the vanilla, allspice and cinnamon). Overall, though, really balanced -- as much porter as pumpkin, which I respect and appreciate. Spiced to enhance flavor, not overpower it. Just really well done and great for a chilly Saturday afternoon.

Photo of thebouch01
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of GilGarp
4.4/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch #1.

Bomber served cold into a pint glass.

Dark brown color with good clarity seen on the pour. Inch thick head is slow to settle and has nice lacing.

Aroma is rich and roasty like a nice porter should be with mild pumpkin pie spice added.

Flavor is very pleasant with just the right amount of spice. It would be good just as a traditional strong porter but the spice adds an additional layer making it a bit more interesting.

It has a creamy smooth mouthfeel and good balance.

Overall a really good imperial porter and a perfect beer for a chilly Halloween night.

Photo of travMI13
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%

Photo of Nightrain87
4.25/5  rDev +11.5%

Photo of HumphreyLee
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Photo of koes0024
3.5/5  rDev -8.1%

Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 473 ratings.