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Fermentation Without Representation - Epic Brewing Company

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Fermentation Without RepresentationFermentation Without Representation

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147 Reviews
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Reviews: 147
Hads: 529
Avg: 3.83
pDev: 21.67%
Wants: 22
Gots: 69 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Epic Brewing Company visit their website
Utah, United States

Style | ABV
Pumpkin Ale |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: JohnGalt1 on 11-06-2011

Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style.
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Photo of metter98
3.73/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is clear but very dark amber (near black) in color. It poured with a finger high tan head that died down, leaving lacing on the surface and a thin collar around the edge of the glass.
S: There are aromas of pumpkins in the nose.
T: The taste is much more complex than the smell, having flavors of chocolate and roasted malts along with pumpkins and notes of vanilla beans. This transitions to spicy flavors that linger through the finish—among these ginger stands out in particular.
M: It feels a bit shy of medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This is an interesting beer to have during the autumn. It's relatively easy to drink, except that I wasn't really a big fan of the ginger and think all of the flavors blended really well together except for it.

Note: Release #7

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Photo of dbrauneis
3.83/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Release #7

A: Pours an opaque but clear very dark amber (almost black) in color with dark brown highlights when held up to the light and light amounts of visible carbonation near the surface of the beer. The beer has a finger tall light tan head that quickly reduces to a medium sized patch of large bubbles, a thin film covering the majority the surface of the beer, and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate to significant amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Light to moderate aromas of roasted malts, chocolate, pumpkin, and vanilla. This is followed by much lighter notes of spices - nutmeg, cinnamon, allspice, and ginger.

T: Moderate flavors of roasted malts and chocolate upfront, followed by the flavor of the pumpkin and the vanilla. There are spicy notes in the finish with nutmeg, cinnamon, and ginger standing out.

M: Just shy of medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Slightly thin with a bit of dryness in the finish.

O: A very interesting take on a pumpkin beer, the pumpkin and pumpkin pie spices really add to the depth of flavor of the porter. Enjoyable and pretty easy to drink - the alcohol is well hidden.

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Photo of FosterJM
3.91/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1564th Review on BA
Bottle to Snifter

Batch #6 (I can't really tell, but looks more like a 6)
Purchased at Total Wine, Brea, CA

App-Its a very nice dark brown pour with a bit of a red tinge behind it. That caught me off guard. A nice 2 finger head with a bit of a whipped egg look. A great amount of cling down the sides. A good density behind the beer as well. Really nice looking.

Smell- First wave wasnt all that impressive. The spices were a bit small and didnt really awaken any good aromatics for me. The 2nd pour brought out more of the pumpkin and that vanilla aroma I was looking for. A little tinge of bitter as well from the hops.

Taste- Its a nice porter blended with some nice flavors. The pumpkin additions added a nice depth of flavor and then the spices tied together nicely. Mostly the nutmeg comes through with a touch of clove but I couldve been thinking that was a hop note. A small amount of chocolate comes on the finish.

Mouth- A solid medium body with a medium creamy carbonation. The residual flavors are of a bit vegetal pumpkin with a bit of that vanilla and a little bit of a cocoa powder and nutmeg mixture.

Drink- I was sitting watching the 1st episode of the new season of the League with this beer and it was really tasty. Had a good amount of flavor and was a nice beer to sip on really.

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Photo of beer2day
4.15/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From Bottle Rev in Raleigh ...

Dark brown pour with light orange tint. 1+ finger of dark cream head. Not much retention. Thin strands of lace all around the glass, even at the end.

Nose is a lot of nutmeg, pumpkin pie spice, chocolate malt, and pumpkin muffin. Lighter than I expected, but a nice mix of spice and chocolate.

Less spice in the taste than in the nose with more moderate pumpkin and nutmeg. Chocolate malt comes out stronger and balances well against the spice. Spice creeps back in the finish and lingers for a bit.

Feel is actually a bit thin for me. Wish there was a bit more body here.

Overall, a nice pumpkin porter.

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Photo of Beaver13
3.55/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle. Pours brown with a medium creamy tan head that quickly diminishes to a thin collar that leaves some lacing.

The aroma is a bit subdued - sweet chocolate malts and some pumpkin and pumpkin spices (cinnamon, nutmeg, all spice).

The flavor is sweet chocolate malts with a little roast and a lot of pumpkin spice (cinnamon, nutmeg, all spice). The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with smooth carbonation.

Overall, a nice pumpkin porter.

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Photo of BrianOhio
3.88/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The pour is dark cola-like with an extremely thick 2 finger, fluffy head. Great retention as well.

The aroma leans heavily towards nutmeg, which concerned me a bit.

Tasting, the nutmeg is more muted (thankfully) and balanced with pumpkin spice. You get a real creaminess that almost makes you think lactose was added as well. In the finish, a nice smokiness cuts through the sweetness and reminds you this is a porter.

I am not a pumpkin beer fan. I always feel like I want to be, and then I find myself overwhelmed with cinnamon and nutmeg. This one gets it right, and in my opinion is the best pumpkin seasonal out there. I will be buying more tomorrow.

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Photo of jtierney89
4.65/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Deep Deep brown color with auburn colors with what looks like pretty good clarity. Sticky crystal like tan head. Smells of fresh pumpkin, cinnamon sticks, and fresh vanilla.

This beer literally tastes like pumpkin pie with a scoop with a whipped cream on top. Rich creamy mouthfeel with a bold pumpkin flavor up front. Sweet biscuit malts are followed by big pumpkin flavor and fresh vanilla. Semi-smoked dark malts with an earthy hop bitterness. The Balance in this beer is impeccable. Cinnamon, allspice, cardamon and clove make an appearance on the back end of tongue while the beer finishes with big whipped cream and chocolate flavor. As much as every pumpkin beer wants to be "pumpkin pie in a glass" this is the only beer that has truly pulled it off while still having a big beer flavor.

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Photo of alexgash
4.06/5  rDev +6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle. Release #7. 7.7% abv.

Dark cola brown body. Finger of very creamy, thick, light peanut brown head. Great lacing. Nose is a nice mix of porter and pumpkin. Roasted malts, cocoa, and coffee blend with squash, brown sugar, and spices (ginger, vanilla, and nutmeg).

Taste starts with bitter cocoa nibs and coffee. Slightly sharp and almost astringent. Milk chocolate and roasted barley settle in. Some gourdy sweetness as well. Vanilla and ginger show up in the finish with lingering roasted bitterness. Medium-full body with a slightly slick feel. Tasty and well done.

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Photo of BeerNutz324
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bomber into an oversized wine glass (live review)

Ap- a dark dark brown that barely see through. Nice light tan head has pretty good retention.

Ar- some sweet and dark malt, chocolate, lots of pumpkin and spice scent. Smells like pumpkin pie

T- has a great roasty malt backbone with a cocoa flavor and hints of nutmeg, cinnamon, and pumpkin puree

M- medium bodied, good carbonation and a bit sticky

O- a nice pumpkin ale. Very smooth and tasty, for me this one is better than the ever-famous pumking.

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Photo of Bung
4.02/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

22oz. A very dark brown pour, just a wispy ring of off white.

Aroma, Lots of toasted malt, caramel and cocoa. Some milk chocolate. Just some faint pumpkin, not so much the allspice and nutmeg, but pumpkin.

Taste, not overdone with the spice rack like some. Some of the spices up front, along with some caramel and roast malt. Earthy and dry later with a heavy cocoa finish.

Solid medium body, ample carbonation. Comes off nearly creamy, coats pretty well, alcohol hides pretty well.

Pretty good, I have yet to be disappointed by these guys.

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Photo of RodneyFarva
4.47/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz bomber poured into a snifter

a: pours a deep chocolate black with a finger of creamy and bubbly tan head. nice lacing.

s: cinnamon, nutmeg, pumpkin meat, vanilla, cardamon, and a strong hint of deep roasted malts. very nice.

t: deep roasted malts, chocolate with a definite creaminess to it, and then the spices and the flavor of pumpkin at the end. while the aroma began with pumpkin and ended with the porter, the taste is in the opposite order. creamy and smooth mouthfeel. alcohol very well hidden but still with a solid body.

o: a wonderful mix of two style, with equal representation for both. after the disappointment of Starr Hill's pumpkin porter, it was nice to have one done right.

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Photo of oberon
4.08/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

8%ABV. per bottle label.Poured a deep roasted chesnut brown with a thinner light tan colored had atop.Aromas were on the lighter side with some vanilla and mild roast mainly.The flavor of this beer makes it with its complexity and how good it is,lightly roasted with some pie spice but the pumpkin flavor really stands out,a lingering vanilla flavor over top of roast in the finish.I think this beer is vastly underrated,it's complex and flavorful.I think Epic makes some top notch beer,this is top notch for the fall season.Got get some.

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Photo of Halcyondays
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz. bottle, it's nice to see another pumpkin beer in the Southland besides Sam Adams and Punkin', as much as I like those beers, we need some variety,

A: Pours black with a medium tan head, good lace, thick, nice look.

S: Pumpkin flesh, dark chocolate, fragrant, nice.

T: Real heavy porter flavour upfront, charcoal, dark chocolate, vanilla beans. The pumpkin really comes out in the finish. Great pumpkin flesh flavour, with a hint of dark anise style spice.

M: Medium-bodied, creamy, rich, nice deep finish.

O: The close to $9 price tag for the bomber is not making me happy, but if this is going to be a regular offering in Southern CA in the pumpkin beer style, I'll certainly buy it because it is a good beer in the end, and frankly it doesn't get much better than this in the pumpkin beers offered in the Southland. We don't get Pumking of course. Epic continues to make good stuff.

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Photo of jtd1969
4.2/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Black. Typical for a porter. Good lacing. Nice medium carbonation

S - Pumpkin, Pumpkin spices( nutmeg, cina, etc), vanilla, burnt sugar.

T - Roasty pumpkin with slight vanilla and dark malt notes. Some orange flavors as well. I don't get chocolate really, more roasty

M - Medium body with good carbonation.

O - Saved this from last Spring when I bought it. Enjoyed with one with a friend. Really good porter. I recommend trying this one as it is different but delicious.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.97/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour at the bottle share hosted by Adam Fine Wine & Liquor held at Sophie’s Place in Redondo Beach, CA.

Release # 5.

Pours a clear dark brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, lots of pumpkin pie spices, and some cocoa aromas. Taste is much the same with a nice spice finish. There is a mild amount of roasty and spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer with some solid aromas and flavors that make it tasty and easy to drink.

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Photo of OWSLEY069
4.03/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep amber to black in color with a tan head. In the aroma, notes of vanilla, cinnamon, and nutmeg. In the taste, spicy upfront with a small roast, to a smooth nutmeg and vanilla in the end. A spice like bite and a medium to lighter bodied mouthfeel, with a small dry roast to pumpkin pie like aftertaste. A little pumpkin pie flavor in a nice, mellow porter.

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Photo of trxxpaxxs
3.87/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: Pours a deep brown, almost black, with about a half finger of dark khaki colored head that fades into a solid ring along the edges of the glass. Solid lacing as it drinks.

S: The nose is pumpkin, cinnamon, nutmeg, vanilla, burnt sugar, and caramel. I get subtle malt in there as well. It smells nice. I hope this translates into taste.

T: The taste follows the nose pretty closely. It starts out with some roasted pumpkin flavor along with a touch of vanilla, and caramel. However, it's a bit thin and I'm left wanting more.

M: Medium bodied beer. It's crisp and pumpkin-y up front. It gets a bit watery and light in subtle in the middle, and it finishes sweet semi-sweet.

O: It's good, but it's not amazing. The flavors are nice, but it's too watery for my tastes and the booze is evident in a 7.6% beer. With so many pumpkin beers on the market, I'd skip over this one and try some of the others.

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Photo of tlazaroff
3.9/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Wonderful pumpkin aroma. I can pick out pumpkin predominantly, with nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon.

The beer looks dark brown to the naked eye, but highlights a deep ruby. The head is tan frothy layer that rests at about a quarter of a finger's height. Lacing is beyond generous.

Pumpkin is the first thing I get in the taste and it carries the beer through the finish. Other spices found in the aroma make appearances in the mid palate. The finish is a bit malty, like a nice toasted bread flavor, but the pumpkin still remains dominent.

Medium carbonation with a medium body. The finish is ever so slightly drying to the palate. It's a beer to enjoy, not a session beer, and I will treat it as such.

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Photo of AgentMunky
4.28/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 ounce bottle into a brandy snifter. Release #2. Brewed on 3 October 2011. Bottled on 21 October 2011.

A: Mahogany brown, with a nut-brown creamy head. Good retention. Opaque and impressive. Scattered lace.

S: Excellent pumpkin and heavy spice. Yum. In fact the nutmeg, allspice, cinnamon, and clove (mostly nailed it, before looking it up!) might be a touch much, but I'm eating it up. Smells like canned pumpkin.

T/M: What? Great! Creamy, smooth, full-bodied, and with excellent balance between roasted, buttery-bitter malts and spiced-sweet pumpkin. Vanilla beans lend themselves to the creamy sweet side, whereas cacao beans lean to the darker, bitterer flavors. Complex and rewarding, the added spice isn't as obvious on the maintaste as the aftertaste, where it lingers.

O: A phenomenally interesting and excellent tasting pumpkin porter that has aged gracefully. In this incarnation, a must-try. Would drink again.

ABV: 7.9%
Hops: Nugget, Perle, Tettnang
Malts: Muntons Maris Otter, Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt, Muntons Crystal, Weyermann Munic Malt Type I (light), Briess 2-Row Chocolate Malt, Weyerman Carafa III
Spice: Pumpkin, Vanilla Bean, Allspice, Nutmeg, Cinnamon, Ginger, Cloves
Brewers' Commentary: "Our first ever collaborative beer has all the familiar flavors of the season, but done with Epic style. To a base of strong, roasty, and chocolaty porter, we add 200 pounds of real pumpkin per batch, five spices and whole Madagascar vanilla beans. As you pour this deeply ruby brown beer, you’re greeted by the aroma of fresh cut squash,followed by rich chocolate. The flavor starts sweet with marshmallow,vanilla, and some pumpkin pie, then yields to a coffee roast and darkchocolate dryness. This beer is a great introduction for curious drinkers and a special holiday treat for fans of the style."

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Photo of WVbeergeek
4/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A nice big glass of Pumpkin Porter, not really the season but damn it's interesting and a collaboration with DC Brau and Epic no less. Pours pitch black maybe light ruby highlights as it pours, dark tan head foaming thick. Aroma bright spice, big fleshy pumpkin gourds, with dark caramelized sugars coating the malts and vegetable additions. Beautiful beer I'm really enjoying the blend of flavors as it warms, fruity/gourd flesh...sugar coated dark roasts mix into a unique and wonderful beer along with light pumpkin spice enjoying every sip. Mouthfeel is a bit thin with even carbonation strong spices left behind between sips. Wonderful roasted malt pumpkin spice blended nicely with a moderate alcohol level, so interesting...I've never had anything else like this quite nice, something I will seek out again in the future.

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Photo of zeledonia
4.32/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Release 1, says the bottle. Bottled 17 October 2011, per their website.

Pours black, opaque, and dark chocolate brown at the edges. Two fingers of dense medium tan head. I can almost convince myself I see orange, but that's probably reading the label into the beer. Retention and lacing are okay, standard, you know. Except that as I drink it, the glass becomes more and more covered with gobs of foam. So maybe upgrade that lacing.

Smells rich, sweet, and pumpkiny. Smells like the roasted pumpkin puree I used to put into pies as a kid. There's beer behind it, but mostly I smell the pumpkin.

Taste is good - one of the better pumpkin beers that I've had. The porter behind it seems a little thin and light on the roast, present mostly as charry bitterness that comes on late. Pumpkin is present throughout, and it's good, pure, squashy, vegetabley pumpkin. Tasty.

Mouthfeel is, IMO, exceptional. Smooth, fluffy, and chewy without being fizzy or overly heavy. Has that creamy feel of an oatmeal stout. Simply lovely.

I really like this beer. It's got great pumpkin aroma and flavor, and the mouthfeel is exquisite. Main complaint is that the porter isn't more present (and since they bill it as an "imperial pumpkin porter", that's a problem).

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Photo of DrDemento456
4.17/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Picked up Batch 3 at Vintage Estate for a fair $6.99. Always wanted to try a pumpkin porter or stout!

A - Pretty dark with only a mild tint of brown as it poured and a 1/2 inch of sticky, pretty mocha colored head. Lacing is very nice.

S - I like how the pumpkin and spices lead in the smell, it's almost like a candied yam mixed with holiday cinnamon, camomile, and a touch of brown sugar. The porter aspect is in the finish where I can smell dry roasts and mild coffee's

T - Smooth, creamy, and damn balanced. What I enjoy most is how it's dry like a normal porter yet the edge is taken off a bit with the sweetness of the spice. Very mild overall pumpkin and even mild spices but it really just adds to the overall body making it an overall sweet porter. Tasty stuff.

M - Smooth, creamy, and crafted very well. Medium bodied tasty stuff.

Overall this is the first Epic Brewery beer I ever had and it lived up to everything the guys at Vintage Estate told me it would be. If they keep on brewing it I will have to pick up a second bottle eventually. Worth trying if you seek tasty, obscure beers.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
4.12/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

im a huge fan of pumpkin beers, so even out of season i was stoked to try this one. not sure ive had a pumpkin porter that wasnt made by a homebrewer before. pours a glowing ruby brown color quite dark but as much brown ale as porter in appearance. small tan head. smells quite sweet, chocolate, vanilla, candied yams. like thanksgiving dessert. flavor is complex as anything, fresh pumpkin takes over in the beginning and wanes to a chocolate coffee dark roasty malty finish. i really enjoy the flavor trip of this one, constantly changing. mouthfeel was nice, could use a bit more carbonation in my opinion to carry it forward, but its medium body make it plenty drinkable. maybe a little too sweet for me, but it works here. overall a fabulous pumpkin beer, i think the squashy flavors work very well in a dark fuller bodied brew. i hope to get my hands on more come autumn.

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Photo of goblue3509
3.24/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours a dark brown color with a two finger khaki colored head which recedes to skim and leaves gobs of sticky lace on the glass. The aroma starts out with a chocolate and roasty character which then gives way to a vanilla and pumpkin. The aroma's seem to be fighting each other though and do not flow evenly into each other. The taste follows suit, with a the coffee and dark chocolate characters coming first along with a roasty backbone. The pumpkin then comes through at the middle and the back. Again it seems to be fighting itself just a little bit. The mouthfeel is moderately carbonated and sticky. Overall it was an okay beer, it seemed to get in the way of itself a little. The flavors were nice but it didn't seem to flow.

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Photo of C20Percent
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Release #1

A: Dark black with a healthy, fluffy tan head. Healthy lace around the edges, which was probably retarded because I kept refilling my glass. But, it looked very appetizing.

S: In my opinion, the aroma was this beer's only real shortcoming. Not enough pumpkin -- might have been because it wasn't absolutely fresh. But, the beer smelled like a standard porter. Smoky, Roasty, Chocolaty. Nice but not great.

T: First taste impression wasn't great, but this beer really grew on me. For one thing, you can taste the pumpkin and spices, which is important since that's on the front of the bottle. As you continue to drink the spices really start to shine. At points, in the finish, it's almost like drinking a Pumpkin Ale. One thing that stands out about this beer is how drinkable it is. A very smooth Imperial beer -- not boozy at all.

M: Chewy caramel -- perfect carbonation. A medium-thick feel but not overwhelming. I thought the feel might have been the best feature of this beer. When I think of a Porter, this is what I expect the feel to be. Very nice.

O: A good offering from Epic Brewing / DC Brau. This was my first DC Brau, which is disappointing because I live right outside of DC, but their distribution is poor. At any rate, a nice Imperial Pumpkin Porter. Easy drinking brew. Would definitely drink again.

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Fermentation Without Representation from Epic Brewing Company
86 out of 100 based on 147 ratings.